Just got my Edge back from being updated and installed it. All I can say is WOW!!!!!! This thing is smooooooth!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have one get it updated.
DAN

Good to hear. I've never had any issues with mine but I will get it upadated anyways. Is there any more low end power? Does it stack the same as before with the predator?

what are the benefits of the update?

How do you go about getting this update?

to get the update send it back to Edge with (RMA 1500) on the outside of the package.
you should call Edge to make sure thats the current RMA number at time of shipment.

I just contacted Edge and you can send it in and put RMA# 1500 on the outside of the box. The latest version is 1.2.

I just got my edge about 2 mnths ago so I have the 1.2v already.

I just looked at mine that is sitting on the bench and guess what... Version 1.0 http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif !

I just got it last month! I called Edge and they said send it in if I wanted it updated.

Thanks Dan! This forum is awsome! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif I'd have never known had I not read it here!

How long does it usually take for them to get it updated and sent back to you?

Just checked under the hood... Mine says....

Ver. 1.0
Manuf. 9-24-2004...

Do I need the UPDATE???

THANKS
BIG

Spoke with edge about a week ago about the update and they told me the Hot Juice will be out in a couple of weeks!!! Might want to wait and get it upgraded to the hot version.

Everyone who has an Edge brand new or older will have the version 1.0. That is the only way they have ever been sold. The only way to have a 1.2 version is to send it in to them. Soon they will come as a 1.2 version,but not yet. Turn around time was 2 days. The low end power does not feel any better at all.

I just got my edge about 2 mnths ago so I have the 1.2v already.

NOT, Sorry my friend look at the box and it will say Version 1.0 unless you sent it in for an update.
DAN

Great! I've been holding off for the Hot OJ.

What are the advantages of upgrades???? Also how can you upgrade to HOT JUICE??? Want this cost extra????

Thanks
WILL

Edge said to upgrade to Hot OJ would be $250

How much will the Hot Juice be? Same as LB7?

NOT, Sorry my friend look at the box and it will say Version 1.0 unless you sent it in for an update.
DAN Dwrat, I have had my version 1.2 for about 3 weeks bought off of the shelf. Also Kennedy has them in stock. I don't know where you heard that you had to update your chip to get 1.2 but it is wrong:mad::rant:
mpete

I sent mine to edge for the update on monday.

XR

I was going to send mine in for the 1.2 upgrade but will be holding off for the Hot Juice. :)

Mines going in to the fix is at 160 50% power then it setdily increase with engine temp till full power is at 172 I beleive he said. Also the mod temp is not fixable it has to be above 40* this is due according to them that the processor cann't function at a lower temp.

Dwrat, I have had my version 1.2 for about 3 weeks bought off of the shelf. Also Kennedy has them in stock. I don't know where you heard that you had to update your chip to get 1.2 but it is wrong:mad::rant:
mpete
Where does your unit say 1.2 on it??????????????
My guess is it says that on the attitude??????
Let me know. Edge says they are not out for sale as of yet.
DAN

Dwrat, I have had my version 1.2 for about 3 weeks bought off of the shelf. Also Kennedy has them in stock. I don't know where you heard that you had to update your chip to get 1.2 but it is wrong
mpeteI'm with Dan here.. most every version previously to now is 1.0 adn Edge JUST released 1.2- I just posted info directly from Edge on how to send it in for firmware update so how can this be wrong? Are the folks that just got theirs back from being updated wrong too? not understanding the point here..

the guys name and number at Edge is in my post..call him and ask.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28689

Where does your unit say 1.2 on it??????????????
My guess is it says that on the attitude??????
Let me know. Edge says they are not out for sale as of yet.
DAN Mine says ver 1.2 right on the chip itself. It is on the the back side of the chip on the opposite side of the wiring. It is not on the attitude!!Censored Right below that it has a build date of 3/8/05. Hopefully Kennedy is out there and will back me up on this.:help2:

I'm with Dan here.. most every version previously to now is 1.0 adn Edge JUST released 1.2- I just posted info directly from Edge on how to send it in for firmware update so how can this be wrong? Are the folks that just got theirs back from being updated wrong too? not understanding the point here..

the guys name and number at Edge is in my post..call him and ask.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28689 I know I was wondering that also. So I e-mailed edge on the 11th of March and they said that they were already out. Got mine the next day and it says 1.2 right on the juice.

Mines going in to the fix is at 160 50% power then it setdily increase with engine temp till full power is at 172 I beleive he said. Also the mod temp is not fixable it has to be above 40* this is due according to them that the processor cann't function at a lower temp.
hellotbone,

What did you mean by "mod temp is not fixable it has to be above 40*"? Do you mean that the Edge module temperature must be above 40 degrees F to function?

Thats exactly what he means. I don't know why this is like that, I don't remember my LB7 having that issue with the edge.

yeah thats why Edge said to tie it to the upper rad hose so it would be warm and function in cold temps.

also here is some more info directly from edge..

Brian,

Each product has its own Ver #. Located on a silver sticker on the unit itself. The Ver 1.5 is the Attitude. Ver # 1.0 was the original Ver # release from us, when it first came out. That Ver # will work on any LLY. The Ver # 1.2 will give you 50% fueling from the Juice @ 167 degrees. By 176 degrees you will have 100% fueling. The Ver # 1.0 will turn on @ 180 degrees. GM has two TSB's ( Technical Service Bulletins ) for the LLY for Fuel Knock, Surging, & White Smoke @ idle.

Thanks,

Jared Scholes
Edge Products
1080 South Depot Dr.
Ogden, UT, 84037
888-360-3343 x 115
801-476-3348 - Fax

So what are the ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS in the new version????

I was going to send mine in for the 1.2 upgrade but will be holding off for the Hot Juice. :)
What is Hot Juice, any details???

Chris

What is Hot Juice, any details???

Chris
hot juice is the performance version of the regular edge juice.
the standard edge has 40-90hp and the Hot has up to 140hp 340ftlbs

Ok, so how do you get the HOT JUICE???

Who gets the $250 when you send the old Vers. 1.0 back???

Thanks
WILL

You send the old 1.0 in to Edge and the $250.00 to me DWRAT. PM me and I will give you my address.
DAN

HOT Juice Power Level Application Form
Edge Products Incorporated
1080 South Depot Dr.
Ogden, UT. 84404
PH:(801) 476-3343
FAX: (801) 476-3348
www.edgeproducts.com

I just talked to Jared and they still don't have a date for Hot version so they are sending my updated box back.

My box worked down to 23* but also had the 'bucking' in upper 20 - 40* range, once it was tied to rad hose it worked fine.

Edge also has a toll free #.

So, if you live in the north east, you will have a little problem when it gets colder? The Edge sounds awesome but if we live were it gets cold, why get something that doesn't run right if it gets cold?
Is this a problem that Edge will sometime fix or is this the way the box always will be? I just needed to ask, since we would really like to get the Edge. I just need a little more info on the cold weather use.
Doug

Alright guys,

Just got my edge back from being upgraded to the 1.2. AND THE WINNER IS NOT ME. The bucking is worse and I'm at wits end. Please save the questions. " did you get the reflash :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: . yes I've done everything including all 8 injectors. Can't pinpoint the problem. I'm definitely leaning towards the fact that all LLY's are programed differently. Let me explain.

I met lakingslayer, a D.P. member at my friends shop. His truck runs great with his edge. I took his Edge put it in my truck and it still bucked. I don't know what to do except wait until someone finds the discrepency in our trucks (those of us who are having the bucking problem.):rant:

Did you get the re-flash done???????????
):h ):h ):h ):h ):h ):h

So, if you live in the north east, you will have a little problem when it gets colder? The Edge sounds awesome but if we live were it gets cold, why get something that doesn't run right if it gets cold?
Is this a problem that Edge will sometime fix or is this the way the box always will be? I just needed to ask, since we would really like to get the Edge. I just need a little more info on the cold weather use.
DougI had bucking in the 20s and 30s but after putting it on the upper hose it worked fine, even -10*f.
Seems not everyone had this trouble, Edge may keep my box and use it for testing since below 23*f it stopped working.

Hope it comes back soon, miss my smoke and power, had a Trans-am last nite that needed a lesson taught.

Tim,
I know what you mean. It's tough to go backwards. You know when you put the chip in and your like wow this is awesome, then you can't have the chip in cause your truck falls on it's face. Very frustrating. Do you have dual alternators?

I wonder if we should do another survey, that is more specific, listing very single detail of each truck including after market tanks, dual alts, air boxes, exhaust, fingers, plates:blahblah: ect ect ect. see if we can narrow it down. I remember someone else did one recently but forgot who

Very funny dwrat :lol:

I had V1.0 on my '05 LLY. Nothing else done to the truck. Coughed and bucked really bad. Sometimes the smoke was so bad I couldn't see a car behind me. Even on the lowest level of low boost fueling.

Got my V1.2 on Friday of last week and absolutely no coughing and bucking yet. It got quite a bit warmer too, so that may have contributed.

Truck is a 3500 LT loaded w/ dual alts.

P
3500 Club member #8

I had V1.0 on my '05 LLY. Nothing else done to the truck. Coughed and bucked really bad. Sometimes the smoke was so bad I couldn't see a car behind me. Even on the lowest level of low boost fueling.

Got my V1.2 on Friday of last week and absolutely no coughing and bucking yet. It got quite a bit warmer too, so that may have contributed.

Truck is a 3500 LT loaded w/ dual alts.

P
3500 Club member #8
Good to hear! Your original experience sounds similar to mine. I am glad to hear that the new programming may improve the "bark" or "caugh". I will be sending my unit out in the next few days. Hope the new program helps.

Alright guys,

Just got my edge back from being upgraded to the 1.2. AND THE WINNER IS NOT ME. The bucking is worse and I'm at wits end. Please save the questions. " did you get the reflash :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: . yes I've done everything including all 8 injectors. Can't pinpoint the problem. I'm definitely leaning towards the fact that all LLY's are programed differently. Let me explain.

I met lakingslayer, a D.P. member at my friends shop. His truck runs great with his edge. I took his Edge put it in my truck and it still bucked. I don't know what to do except wait until someone finds the discrepency in our trucks (those of us who are having the bucking problem.):rant: I put XR-Freak's 1.2 on my truck and it works fine. I tried both stock program and the Predator 40hp tune. Both worked flawlessly. XR and I will try some other experiments with the predator and hopefully we will be able to figure out this issue.

One other thing I noticed about the ver1.2 is that my EGT's seem to be about 50deg cooler on average.

I read this thread and didn't see where any of you guys have version 1.1? :o: I originally had Version 1.0 til it died, so Edge sent me a new E/J about 4 weeks ago but instead of the 1.2 version I received the 1.1? I e-mailed Edge to see whats up. :rolleyes:

I have noticed when the truck is in the process of getting up to operating temps it will buck slightly when I'm coming to a stop. I thought it was my brakes, but after reading several posts it sounds more like the bucking problem. I'll move the edge to the upper radiator hose to see if that helps. JJ :)

I thought moving the E/J to the rad hose was for cold weather aplications only. What's the weather like in Jacksonville?

Get that question a lot. J'ville is more of a southern Georgia town than your typical Florida town. We get a pretty good change of seasons here. This a.m. it was 47*, very low humidity. From what I've read it sounds like the Edge/Juice processor likes to be warm, evidently quite warm if guys are strapping it to the return radiator hose.

I'm really most curious about not seeing anyone with the 1.1 version. Most that I've seen posting are going from the 1.0 that I had directly to the 1.2 version. I'm awaiting E/J response. JJ :)

whats this "juice" thingy everyones talking about? ):h :joke:

whats this "juice" thingy everyones talking about? ):h :joke:
Its POWER!!!!:grd:

I live in Phx,Az and have had the bucking during 3/4 warmup (approx 170*). Only when around 45* outside temp (during the month of Jan). Otherwise it's fine lately.

E/J sent me a replacement unit that was supposed to be reflashed with the latest/greatest. This unit had the bucking problem during warmup whereas my previous one did not. :o: My wife sent my old one to E/J, they reflashed it and returned it to me. Good thing! I reinstalled my original unit last night and the bucking is gone during warmup, plus the truck is running much stronger than before. :cool: I suspect the unit they sent me wasn't updated.
They'll be getting that one back soon. :D JJ :)

do they have a sticker on them that has the SW version on it (both should)? They should be version 1.2 if they are updated.

The one they sent me was a 1.2 to replace a Version 1.1. That one ran like crap and I was going to call them to send it back for another one. :o: Then Mama JJ tells me I have another E/J on the table, yahoo! :D

Turns out they reflashed my old one and sent it back when they were supposed to keep it. I installed it last night and DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNN! :cool: JJ's happy! :D Later. JJ :)

Just out curosity...
Has anyone else had problems with the EGTs sensor on the edge going wacko on startup?
I live in Utah where the temp is always below 40 in the mornings... Right after I start my truck the attitude shows the EGT steadily climbing. It gets up to about 2000 degrees! Of course I have just started the truck so I know that this is not true. It also happens after I wash the truck. After the truck has warmed up for a few minutes the EGTs return to normal. Going to send mine for upgrade after the weekend...

Phatty, I've never seen EGT's that high on cold start or full runs. Check your connections at the sensor and the Juice module to see if they are loose or rusty. Electrical issues after washing a vehicle can be a sign of a bad ground IIRC. JJ :)

Just out curosity...
Has anyone else had problems with the EGTs sensor on the edge going wacko on startup?
I live in Utah where the temp is always below 40 in the mornings... Right after I start my truck the attitude shows the EGT steadily climbing. It gets up to about 2000 degrees! Of course I have just started the truck so I know that this is not true. It also happens after I wash the truck. After the truck has warmed up for a few minutes the EGTs return to normal. Going to send mine for upgrade after the weekend...

My buddies dad has the same problem.. It will be like 200* then jump to 2000* and backdown 100%... They say his was runnign fine when he sent it in, but its actually worse now... He is an LB7 but has the 2000* problem... It is also Bursting horribly...

BIG

I will have to check all the wiring. If I make a pull on stage 5 about 70-80 mph the sensor goes off and I will hit about 1380+ degrees. Thats the only other time it goes off, but this is racing my buddies tricked out audi so of course i expect to work the truck alot harder. :)

Just out curosity...
Has anyone else had problems with the EGTs sensor on the edge going wacko on startup?

My old LLY J/A used to do the same thing . . . then it did it on a LONG trip back east leaving me with stock power while towing a pretty heavy load. :( I spoke to Edge and they sent me a new pyrometer probe and told me to strap the box to my upper radiator hose. Not sure which was the magic fix, but the problem went away.