Rookiew/Dmax
03-31-2005, 10:41 AM
Had a fifth wheel hitch installed yesterday and went to pick the truck up today.
I get in start it up, no power steering no power brakes:eek: . What the heck?
Install shop took a look, on the drivers side in proximity to the rear axle there is a cluster of wires, they cut the ties to inspect the wires, no visible nicks or any damage to the wires. Start the truck back up to move over to the hoist to get a better look, brakes and steering back again:confused: ! Re-inspect the wires, nothing visible.
Any guesses on this one?
Rookiew/Dmax
03-31-2005, 11:24 AM
How would that effect the brakes? (Not being a smart A@@, I realy have no clue)
GMCSID
03-31-2005, 11:56 AM
P/S pump supplies pressurized fluid to brake booster and steering gear.
99 - 05 Chrevolet/GMC/Cadillac/Hummer H2 all Full Size Trucks Utilities and Vans Lack of Steering Assist when Stopped or During Parking Lot Type Maneuvers - kw brake power oil hard noise booster low #PIT3310 - (Dec 9, 2004)
99 - 05 Chevrolet/GMC/Cadillac/Hummer H2 All Full Size Trucks Utilities and Vans Lack Of Steering Assist When Stopped or During Parking Lot Type Maneuvers
The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom described in the PI.
Condition/Concern:
Some customers may comment on a lack of steering assist when stopped or during parking lot type maneuvers.
Recommendation/Instructions:
Please follow normal diagnostics in SI2000 for this condition. If vehicle passes the Power Steering Pressure Test Procedure this may be a normal condition. A lack of steering assist could occur if the brakes are applied and turning the steer wheel with the vehicle stopped or during parking lot type maneuvers . No repairs should be attempted as this is a characteristic of the vehicle. Any customer concerns should be referred to the Area Vehicle Manager (AVM) and a Field Product Report should be submitted by following bulletin 02-00-89-002C.
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Rookiew/Dmax
03-31-2005, 12:04 PM
1. Is it possible the installation of the hitch and the occurance of this problem are merely a conisidence?
2. Sid, thanks for the info! Since this has never happened and the truck has 90K miles should I have this 'pressure test' done or should I just pretend it never happened?
3. One more little thing, I crawled under the vehicle during lunch I noticed a very, very, very small amount of brake fluid (3-4 drops) leaking from the passenger rear brake assembly could this contribute?
GMCSID
03-31-2005, 04:01 PM
It sounds like a coincidence. I can't think of a way installing a hitch would affect the brake/steering system.
I wouldn't worry about it if it happened the way the bulletin describes.
Any amount of brake fluid leakage is very bad. Make sure the master cylinder is full and bring it in to be repaired.
Rookiew/Dmax
04-01-2005, 10:50 AM
Update on the fluid leakage. It is an axle seal.
PS pressure test OK
Gray Gmax
04-04-2005, 03:13 PM
wow.. got in the truck this moring and had the exact same thing happen to me...!
but i said p*ss on it and tried to horse the truck around to get her back in the driveway. as soon as i began wrestling with the steering wheel i heard what sounded like air passing through the break pedal ??? then everything was fine...
so Sid ..there is nothing to worry about???? my truck never did have alot of steering assist while at slow speeds, but this morning i had none. truck rolled down the driveway without steering or brakes...:eek: had to jump on the brakes
to get her stopped.
parking lot problem i can deal with....not the highway.
Thanks Tom
GMCSID
04-04-2005, 09:29 PM
wow.. got in the truck this moring and had the exact same thing happen to me...!
but i said p*ss on it and tried to horse the truck around to get her back in the driveway. as soon as i began wrestling with the steering wheel i heard what sounded like air passing through the break pedal ??? then everything was fine...
so Sid ..there is nothing to worry about???? my truck never did have alot of steering assist while at slow speeds, but this morning i had none. truck rolled down the driveway without steering or brakes...:eek: had to jump on the brakes
to get her stopped.
parking lot problem i can deal with....not the highway.
Thanks TomYou should take it in. That doesn't sound like it happened the way the bulletin describes.
Burnin Mad Max
04-05-2005, 03:43 AM
:mad: Just had mine replaced $437 parts and labor only 41k on the odo. While it was at the stealer the pump started working again :eek: but with all the problems over the last few years with these chunk-o-she-ite pumps I had them replace it anyway. I just hope I don't have a problem with the hydro-boost later or the steering-gearing!!!:eek: