: *** damn ******in 4x4 oil filter location
WhiteK2500 12-25-2008, 04:40 PM :damnit1:
What a Censored bitch....CensoredCensoredCensored My truck doesn't want to give up the old filter, and you think I have any Censored room to do Censored all?
This isn't the way I had Christmas planned.:mad:
Broke 2 metal band strap wrenches, and a heavy duty nylon matco oil strap wrench is only crushing the oil filter, still not budging though....
Merry fawking christmas to me.... :(
If it wasn't for bad luck this year, I wouldn't have any.
Fawk the stock location, I'm ordering a filter relocation kit. Filter changing under the truck can blow me, I've had enough this time.
Yes I put oil on the seal, so don't even bother asking :p:
I'm so pissed off right now.
:rant:
BigBlueChevy 12-25-2008, 04:55 PM I didn't do it.
Anyways, have you tried taking a long screw driver and punching it in one side and out the other of the filter to turn it? Thats what ive done if it gives me issues.
Unless your re-using the filter... then its not so good of an idea:D
matuva 12-25-2008, 05:31 PM I'm with you ;)
Each time I had to crawl under the truck to reach the oil filter, I realised I know a lot of these good old words old mechanics use :D
I ended up relocating the oil filtrer, took the opportunity to add a by-pass filter, and now have easy oil filter change + cooler engine (due to extra oil + cooler filters)
Jess_sr 12-25-2008, 05:32 PM Who put the last filter on?:shake:
edzzed 12-25-2008, 06:05 PM i'm another one that dislikes the stock location, i seem to get oil all over the driveshaft everytime i change it. i have now taken to putting a bread bag over the driveshaft just so whatever falls onto it hits the plastic and is easily cleaned up. one day soon i hope to relocate to dual filters. santa are you listening here. Ed
HamOP 12-25-2008, 06:07 PM WhiteK2500;
Sorry to hear of your problem with the filter.... BUT, I suspect (seeing you have over 1400 posts) that you're aware that it isn't just sailors reading these forums.
I've learned some from your previous posts and appreciate your contributions to my knowledge. But, I gotta tell you - If I were a mod on this panel, you wouldn't make ANYMORE posts.
IMNSHO you are WAY out of line here and I for one don't appreciate it. If I'm the only one that feels that this should NOT be tollerated, well then I'll admit that maybe I'm just getting old. But I don't think that's the case.
Hopefully a moderator will delete this thread.
blueskies_sc 12-25-2008, 06:28 PM WhiteK2500;
Sorry to hear of your problem with the filter.... BUT, I suspect (seeing you have over 1400 posts) that you're aware that it isn't just sailors reading these forums.
I've learned some from your previous posts and appreciate your contributions to my knowledge. But, I gotta tell you - If I were a mod on this panel, you wouldn't make ANYMORE posts.
IMNSHO you are WAY out of line here and I for one don't appreciate it. If I'm the only one that feels that this should NOT be tollerated, well then I'll admit that maybe I'm just getting old. But I don't think that's the case.
Hopefully a moderator will delete this thread.
I hope that nothing bad ever happens to your truck that puts you in a bad mood and your wife and people around don't want to hear it, and you need a place to vent. Then I will be first to re post this quote in your message till then Merry Christmas. and we are all adults and it does pertain to the 6.5 that he drives so the mod will let it stay if you where a mod more people would have left this place. cause it would turn into something like the other site and it is not worth it. nothing wrong with a man being frustrated with his truck. god knows i have so sue me for my first amendment rights freedom of speech jerry
BlueBurby1 12-25-2008, 06:32 PM :rolleyes:^^...we tried a screw driver, we ruined the matco tool guys christmas...and ticked off my gf....and the damn thing still didn't come off....so tommorow it looks like we are going to have to remove the whole damn adapter...anyone have any thoughts as to how easy or hard that might be and anyone know what size the nut is....also we would like any input on how to remove the oiul filter from the housing once we DO get it off....
6.5silverado 12-25-2008, 06:34 PM if you smear some oil around the little rubber ring, and on the threads before you put the filter on it comes off alot easier. Doesnt help you much now but for future reference. hope ya get it off!
TedReminder 12-25-2008, 06:50 PM I removed the whole adapter a couple times already. I forget the nut size though. That is the easiest way to get an impossible filter off. Once you get the big nut, actually bolt off, the adapter just pulls right off. Might be a good time for new "O" rings too.
Ted
simone0414 12-25-2008, 07:34 PM I for one am not offended by the language in this post. I actually think it is kind of funny. Funny because I'm sure the vaste majority of us have been in some kind of similar situation & have probably uttered the same words ( although not on here).
I had the same problem Whitek2500. Only it was of my own doing. Got under the truck to change my filter a couple of months ago. Thought I was turning the wrench the right way & tightened the filter on more instead of loosing it. Once I did that I was screwed. Bent my oil filter wrench all to crap. Went & bought I a new fancy dancy filter wrench that was supposed to get much better grip. Well it did get much better grip. So much so that it started crushing the filter. I was going to drive a screwdriver throught it but figured if that didn't work then I really would be screwed & probably would have to get it towed to my mechaniic. So I just drove it to my mechanic paid him to get the damn thing off & got him to change the oil as well. I don't know what they did to get it off but they did. I was absolutely pissed(mostly at myself). Nothing will piss you off more then doing a job that it supposed to be easy & it turnis into a nightmare.
Needless to say from now on I am going to make sure I am saying rightey tightey, leftey loosey once I am under the truck & not before.
Good luck whitek2500. Make sure you have cooled off before you tackle it again.
RCpullerdude 12-25-2008, 07:41 PM I know what you mean. I remember our first oil and filter change. A screwdriver just ended up cutting the filter in half. My dad finally ended up getting it off with a pry bar and digging into it and turning it.
On a side note, if someone is offended by the language, I'm offended by them being offended, and, IMHO, they can shove it up their Censored. I've heard worse every day in school since 5th grade. Not to mention, he didn't say anything the filter filtered out, so it's really not that bad.
matuva 12-25-2008, 08:02 PM I removed the whole adapter a couple times already. I forget the nut size though. That is the easiest way to get an impossible filter off. Once you get the big nut, actually bolt off, the adapter just pulls right off. Might be a good time for new "O" rings too.
Ted
it's a 36mm
farmboy56 12-25-2008, 08:37 PM I was in the same place last week. I told my dad if I get the filter off the change will be a doozy. Well after a half an hour of turning it, I finally looked at the new filter and I was turning it THE WRONG WAY!!!! Man I laughed my ace off. I had a clasp with teeth on it that my dad had in his tool box. It worked great once I figured out to go the right way.
NOTE: I use GOSH Damn instead of using the Lords name in vain. You will hear me say every other sailor term out there but never "GD"
Jess_sr 12-25-2008, 08:39 PM Remember guys..
When installing a new filter only tighten hand tight.
If your feeling weak that day no more then 1/8 of a turn with the wrench.
A properly installed filter is never a problem to remove!!
RCpullerdude 12-25-2008, 08:59 PM NOTE: I use GOSH Damn instead of using the Lords name in vain. You will hear me say every other sailor term out there but never "GD"
I do agree, but I'm not going to force my beliefs and give someone grief just because they ain't like me.
Dieseldad97 12-25-2008, 09:25 PM It's really too bad Justin that you are having these issues with the filter. I am one of those guys that don't use the Lords name in vain. I understand we are all human and have heard all kinds of language in school and the workplace, but as adults on a "family friendly" website you do come across a bit strong.
I'm not going to report it via the triangle....but my guess is someone already has.
Good luck with getting that crazy thing off and Merry Christmas to you Justin.
Gerald.:)
IamDave0887 12-25-2008, 09:28 PM Ah the Censored oil filter fun. :rolleyes: been there before myself. I've cursed at my truck many time during an oil change, and i've got the vertical mounted filter. the horizontal filter on the 4x4's must be a total PITA.
I"ve got the cash for the dual remote setup i've been keep an eye on lately, so its just a matter of ordering it and waiting for it to get here. Only thing that stinks is the filter on the truck is less than a month old.
JeffsJeep04 12-25-2008, 09:44 PM WhiteK2500;
Sorry to hear of your problem with the filter.... BUT, I suspect (seeing you have over 1400 posts) that you're aware that it isn't just sailors reading these forums.
I've learned some from your previous posts and appreciate your contributions to my knowledge. But, I gotta tell you - If I were a mod on this panel, you wouldn't make ANYMORE posts.
IMNSHO you are WAY out of line here and I for one don't appreciate it. If I'm the only one that feels that this should NOT be tollerated, well then I'll admit that maybe I'm just getting old. But I don't think that's the case.
Hopefully a moderator will delete this thread.
Seriously?
You know you can mouse over a thread and preview it, right? How about when you see someone ranting, just move on, and you won't be offended.
I put up a very similar thread, with pictures of my filter, not too long ago. I ended up taking the whole adapter off.
Diaric 12-25-2008, 09:52 PM no offense here. none taken.
anyone that suggests the screwdriver trick has never tried it on a stuck filter. it may work when you have no wrench , but it was a disaster when i had a stuck filter
bk95td 12-25-2008, 09:53 PM I don't know what they could have been thinking when they put the oil filter there. Try a long screwdriver or prybar and tap it into the filter right next to the adapter,making a notchto pound on. Hit with hammer to start turning. Repeat to make new notch untill it starts to free up. Or use a chain wrench for pipe. The notch method has worked for me when nothing else would. By tapping on that part of the filter you are hitting on the piece of the filter that is directly threaded to the adapter. If you look at the new filter you will see what I mean. Good Luck and merry christmas.
IamDave0887 12-25-2008, 09:58 PM the last time i had a stuck filter, i went out and got one of the filter "sockets" that fits specific filters. i put that on and a 3/8 drive ratchet and the filter comes off every time. Just make sure you don't get the cheap plastic one, get the steel one.
jifaire 12-25-2008, 10:07 PM I hope that nothing bad ever happens to your truck that puts you in a bad mood and your wife and people around don't want to hear it, and you need a place to vent. Then I will be first to re post this quote in your message till then Merry Christmas. and we are all adults and it does pertain to the 6.5 that he drives so the mod will let it stay if you where a mod more people would have left this place. cause it would turn into something like the other site and it is not worth it. nothing wrong with a man being frustrated with his truck. god knows i have so sue me for my first amendment rights freedom of speech jerry
? Too much to get into, not enough interest or time to do so...
midniteplowboyy 12-25-2008, 10:13 PM IIRC the adaptor bolt is 1-3/8". A 1/2" drive crowsfoot works well for this if the driveshaft is in the way.
jifaire 12-25-2008, 10:19 PM At the very least, this post is not Justin's style; he must have been very frustrated. I'm surprised he hasn't edited it himself.
Although we all know that prevention (putting it on properly in the first place) is the root solution to this problem, removing a stuck oil filter is still something we will all run into eventually.
- Band wrench
- Strap wrench... good one, not the cheap hardware kind
- cup socket for bottom of filter
- using a cold chisel on the rim of the filter ('tapping' it loose)
- pipe wrench on the rim of the filter
- driving a screwdriver through is is pretty much the second-last resort, because (as has been mentioned), once you do that, the truck don't move until you're successful at changing things.
- last resort - cut it off, make a pin wrench to fit into the baseplate holes and turn off the baseplate.
Like I started out with, putting it on right in the first place is a much-underestimated solution.
dur0maxx 12-25-2008, 10:35 PM Last time I changed my filter I cleaned up and went straight to the internet researching a way for remote mount filters. I ended up cooling down and didn't get around to ordering anything, so next time I will be cussing myself for not clicking the "Buy Now" button. My wrench didn't break, it actually twisted the filter causing it to collapse, like wringing out a towel.
Keep trying, you'll figure something out. The screwdriver is an idea I use an awefull lot.
keith_2500hd 12-25-2008, 11:40 PM screw driver has only ever ripped filter in half for me and made bigger mess, set of fancy oil filter(plier) wrench or large slip jaw pliers, pipewrench usually to big to get in.
odlaw 12-26-2008, 12:01 AM I guess I should go knock on wood. I've never had a problem removing my filter. I do use a snap-on filter wrench which I've had for many, many years....or it might be a MAC. It is a little messy, but other than that she always comes right off.
Yeah, sounded a little out of character for Justin. I probably would have vented any excess steam before I posted :D. I don't like to hear GD either but it's not my place to clean up the post.....and generally this is a pretty clean site.
In hindsight, if I were visiting this site for the first time and saw that language.....honestly, I probably would have just moved on. If you visit any forum(especially ones with younger members) most of them are nothing but vulgarity......just not my cup of tea.
I'm not going to beat Justin over the head with this though - Lord knows I've made many mistakes in my life.....even some as silly as this.
Smitty
matuva 12-26-2008, 12:27 AM I think Justin was just a bit upset--- not saying he is right or wrong, just saying he is human---
burbzilla 12-26-2008, 03:02 AM Jeez - never heard so much ado about so little.
Yes, the filter is in not in a great location. But consider that the ds u-joint needs an oil bath ever so often and this might be the best way to do it. :)
The sturdy screwdriver works just fine in case of emergency need. But - you just cannot stab the filter at random and expect it to work by dumb brute force alone. Work as close to the base as possible.
If you are so ill-tempered or too drunk to manage this simple task, perhaps it would be better to attack the problem a little later after the booze or whatever wears off... And... don't overtighten it so much next time.
I'm with HamOP on this one. If I ever wanted to read such language, there are plenty of websites (and truckstop bathroom stalls) I can visit for a generous helping of trash reading.
Simple test: if you would not want your wife, gf, mother etc. to hear you talk like that, don't post like that.
[If your wife, gf, mother, etc. tolerates that kind of talk, or worse, talks like that also - that's your problem. And I'm sure someone around y'all will eventually spell it out for you nice and personal like.]
BlueBurby1 12-26-2008, 09:15 AM You know what, yall can shut up, the point of the post wasn't to see who cares about swearing and god, the point of the post was, anyone got any clue as to how to get a filter base off a GD(i fawkin said it) filter adaptor when its boxing day and tools and available tool making equipment is erxtgremely limited...this vehicle needs to move...today....so lets all accept the fact that mechanics swear sometimes and DEAL WITH IT. or so help me i will break my keyboard off in the forums ass...
why is it everytime someone gets offended they open their mouth, maybe if people kept their mouths shut like they themselves tell others to do...and don't make me search cause i'll FIND your posts and prove it. we wouldn't have so much useless time spent trying to get help.
post the INFORMATION and move on
WhiteK2500 12-26-2008, 09:40 AM What can I say? I'm not here to try and please anyone, if my language isn't to your liking, don't be around me, that's what I'll tell anyone, online, or in my life off of here.
There's a lot of people out there who try to get under my skin, and I simply don't let them.
I'm having a shitty year, first I'm laid off, then I find out my father has cancer, I'm having relationship problems on and off again, then I break my hand, have 2 surgerys, my father dies, and I've had the worse christmas of my life.
So step into my shoes, and tell me you wouldn't make a sailor blush.
I'm not religious, I've been given no reason to believe, and I'm not reserved, I'll speak my mind.
IamDave0887 12-26-2008, 09:56 AM Enough guys. I"m with justin on this one. He's had a a really rough year and if he wants to vent to guys that will listen then let him.
We are supposed to be here for eachother, since there no where else we can go for help with our rigs. I"ve seen many other members here vent and no ones done this to them.
Just because its something as simple as an oil change, doesn't mean it always goes so smoothly. I've done everything right on an oil change and had the filter get stuck before as well, and thats the vertical filter on the 2wd. I"ve been in the stuck filter shows situtation, and its really annoying.
Before anyone else takes a swing here, i'll close this one.
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