I think I'm going to go with a garrett 42/dual fueler setup in the spring. Anyone running this setup for pulling and drags?

not, me, but from what i've seen it works well. Lots of them floating around here.

I think I'm going to go with a garrett 42/dual fueler setup


BOOM!! :eek:

I have a simular setup. what is your question?

I have heard dans truck is Insanely fast from inside sources. At 80 to a buck ten And the tires still bracking loose

What kinda rods do you have????

What kinda rods do you have????

I bet they are going to be the bent kind:D!

Tuning helps keep the rods/pistons intact with a GT42 & twin CP3s on stock internals...but not permanently. It bought me time to get a better shortblock built.

What kinda rods do you have????

Carrillo!

I bet they are going to be the bent kind:D!

They better not for as much money as they cost!!!!!

Dan, would you recommend this charger for a stock bottom end motor though?

No, It would not be a stock bottom end for long....:)

Tuning helps keep the rods/pistons intact with a GT42 & twin CP3s on stock internals...but not permanently. It bought me time to get a better shortblock built.


I agree....

I haven't kept up with it, but does anybody know how Pat's testing went with a gt42 and stock bottom end?

There's a guy down here in Houston thats running a 42 with big sticks and headstuds. I believe his has lived for quite a while. IIRC its dynoing in the 670 range and he's keeping his torque right around 1000 ft pds. I've seen him run 11.77 at HRP before.

No, It would not be a stock bottom end for long....:)

Thanks Dan, I just wanted to get that clarified for those thinking this would be good for a stock motor.

I talked to Bob at PPE, before I posted, he didn't mention about with or without stock bottom end, I should have known better! I want to do a setup that I will not outgrow to quickly, butI don't have money to build a motor right now, I did plan on doing heads studs. Should I consider a gt40 instead?

I am willing to bet it is not he boost that is killing these engines. I bet if you had just the charger you would run fine for a long while. I think the extra fuel is what kills ya!!!

id upgrade your injectors at the same time, keep timing and PW down. might be able to save the stock bottom end for a few extra hours ;), i will most likely be running this set up (or something very close to it) in the spring have already talked to both Dan (PPE) and Guy (SoCal). a gt40 should still be enough to keep you happy for a while if you wanted to play it safe.

id upgrade your injectors at the same time, keep timing and PW down. might be able to save the stock bottom end for a few extra hours ;), i will most likely be running this set up (or something very close to it) in the spring have already talked to both Dan (PPE) and Guy (SoCal). a gt40 should still be enough to keep you happy for a while if you wanted to play it safe.

I've now talked to Dan as well, going to do the 40 and a dual fueler. Trying to get by as long as I can on the stock internals

Why would you go with dual fuelers if you know it will destroy the bottom end? and why would you go with a GT40 if you know you'll out grow it shortly after building the motor? For what you'll spend of that combo you'd have close to enough to build the motor (a basic rod, piston, studs, and valve spring build). Then you could add the parts as you had money with the piece of mind that it wont break as you add the power. It's not near the instant gratification but it's not nearly as heart breaking as when you break the motor. Yes I said when you break it not if.

Stock internals are just a problem waiting to happen if your going to add twin CP3's. Everyone says I will be good and not push it but it just doesn't happen. Now let's say it bends a rod and spits it out of the block as we all know they do. Now you need a new motor to build from. As Rob said save your money and do the lower end of the motor first as it's going to save you money and time in the long run.

I'm running the gt40 because I can't afford to build my motor. Dual cp3's are not worth the risk as well. Besides, I was not nearly as impressed with the gt40 as I thought I would have been. Wish I could have gone bigger but couldn't.

What about a procharger or a similar setup like that guy out of Australia is running? I don't know jack sh*t ab superchargers regarding how much boost they make but would it be easier on a stock bottom end? Does it require as much fuel as a gt42 would?

that guy grenaded his tuff too. (from australia)

Stock internals are just a problem waiting to happen if your going to add twin CP3's. Everyone says I will be good and not push it but it just doesn't happen. Now let's say it bends a rod and spits it out of the block as we all know they do. Now you need a new motor to build from. As Rob said save your money and do the lower end of the motor first as it's going to save you money and time in the long run.

I know now that is the right way now after talking, not trying to do it half ass, I do need to get my egt issues under control and was planning on doing it with the turbo upgrade. Yes, I know that the dual fueler won't help at all with that:D, but as I understand the second cp3 only adds fuel when needed, not all the time. I don't run alot of programming on a daily basis. I know, I know, I know but if I watch it is it still a ticking time bomb?

the 2nd fueler adds it all the time, its there to keep rail presure up and to add even more fuel, if you ahve larger injectors you should be safe for a little consider you keep your timing and PW down as fair as you can and you dont get stupid. hell if you get the gt40 you can always use it as your little turbo on a twin set up. ;) and if you blow your motor i will have one for sale in about 3 months HAHA

the 2nd fueler adds it all the time, its there to keep rail presure up and to add even more fuel, if you ahve larger injectors you should be safe for a little consider you keep your timing and PW down as fair as you can and you dont get stupid. hell if you get the gt40 you can always use it as your little turbo on a twin set up. ;) and if you blow your motor i will have one for sale in about 3 months HAHA

The adding fuel all the time is contrary to what ppe told me.

Our Dual fueler will only make the fuel that is being requested by the tuning. You could run a stock tune with them and they will not add any additional fuel.

The benefit of them is to maintain requested fuel pressure which increases injection efficiency. By increasing injection efficiency you will lower egts. The tuner can increase fuel pressure if wanted by tuning or our Duramaximizer, this will further increase performance and efficiency.

The only time a dual CP3 does anything is when the single CP3 can no longer keep up with what you are requesting from your program. So the 2nd CP3 does nothing for you if you keep your program down to a power level that will keep the stock internals together. So let's say adding a 2nd CP3 helps you out, then YOUR PROGRAM IS TOO BIG ALL READY!
If your EGT's are out of hand then your program is too big. A turbo is just going to allow you to make more power which is going to push the stock internals harder!

Look if it's what you want then by all means go ahead and do it, but remember when it falls apart you will know why.

I understand