Eric did a great job on the install even with a rookie D/A mechanic (me) helping out. But I think we created a monster. With the bigger turbo and bigger nozzles the truck is scary fast on the street. It was hard to drive easy for the first 75-100 miles while the fluids were stabilizing and the bearings in the turbo were seating. Then it was WFO, hang on and listen to the turbo making 50psi of boost. The streetability with this thing is amazing if you can keep the tires hooked and don't mind turbo whistle.

Good for you Mike! I hope to upgrade my turbo too sometime in the near future.

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:grd: :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) good to hear, what programs u runnin on it?

keep us informed mike, on your stack and how much smoke it still makes, hp numbers, very intrested in doing the same

Cool!!! We need pics :)

:ro) Hope to know the feeling VERY soon.

Can someone please disable my login so I can't access this site anymore? First it's a tranny upgrade, then a big box now twins. When does it end? My wife won't take much more! :) On edit: hmmm ..eh? yeah, that's the ticket ...where do I order? :)

You guys with the big T or twins are going to have to get a pilot license :ro)

Go get em Mike. The Dmaxes are a comin!

Can someone please disable my login so I can't access this site anymore? First it's a tranny upgrade, then a big box now twins. When does it end? My wife won't take much more! :) On edit: hmmm ..eh? yeah, that's the ticket ...where do I order? :)

You guys with the big T or twins are going to have to get a pilot license :ro)
LMAO

Actually the last time i got pulled over the officer looked in the truck.... and asked if i was going for my IFR certification:ro) ):h :ro)
4 Boost Gauges, 2 Pyrometers, lockup switch, Landing lights, programmer on seat.

Sheesh.... no ticket but he was curious. Why do you need so many gauges?

Top Turbo
Bottom Turbo
Pre IC Boost
Post IC Boost
(Might need to get 2 more gauges for drive pressure on both turbos:eek: )

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nice,keep us posted...

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Mike, give me a call, so we can compare notes

How does the turbo/injectors "feel" as upposed to the nitrous. Does the truck feel stronger?

it feels as strong as the truck did on nitrous if not stronger, 1/4 mile ET and MPH will tell for sure.

That's aweome Mike. Can't wait to see what it's going to do on the track and with the sled hooked to it.:ro)

Mike -

You HAVE to come to the Tipton Tractor Pull this summer! I will pay your entry fees!!!! You have to show the smarta$$ Dodge boys around here the awesome power of the DMAX...:ro) :ro) :ro) :ro) :exactly:

Do you have any smoke left to clean up or does the turbo take care of it and then some?

LMAO

Actually the last time i got pulled over the officer looked in the truck.... and asked if i was going for my IFR certification:ro) ):h :ro)
4 Boost Gauges, 2 Pyrometers, lockup switch, Landing lights, programmer on seat.

Sheesh.... no ticket but he was curious. Why do you need so many gauges?

Top Turbo
Bottom Turbo
Pre IC Boost
Post IC Boost
(Might need to get 2 more gauges for drive pressure on both turbos:eek: )


Just skip the other guages and go with a Data Logger, I can't focus on all those guages when I enter warp speed anyway.:ro)

Just skip the other guages and go with a Data Logger, I can't focus on all those guages when I enter warp speed anyway.:ro)


"I enter warp speed"

With what? Sounds goofy

Just skip the other guages and go with a Data Logger, I can't focus on all those guages when I enter warp speed anyway.:ro)

Send me a link on what you are using.

I was talking to STACKS, but they want to do a whole IPC arrangement... too spendy for me.... And i would want it in hardparts... although i do have a spare computer i can wire into a LCD monitor

:nopics: someone had to do it.

mike how much does it still smoke. What chips are you running with the turbo. Does the turbo have a lot of lag. How much boost are you getting. Does it sound like a jet. Do you get turbo bark. Have you ran it with the nitrous. Could it use more fuel or do you get enough with just the injectors and chips.

mike how much does it still smoke. What chips are you running with the turbo. Does the turbo have a lot of lag. How much boost are you getting. Does it sound like a jet. Do you get turbo bark. Have you ran it with the nitrous. Could it use more fuel or do you get enough with just the injectors and chips.
You don't work for the fbi or irs do ya:D, all those questions almost makes me believe you do :joke:

yeah i guess i am asking for alittle too much

"I enter warp speed"

With what? Sounds goofy but captain............ what about the carrotlithium crystals?.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif

i have not been able to find a price, if i may ask how much for the turbo? and is it the same size (phiscal)

yeah i guess i am asking for alittle too much
Hell no, just curious thats all..........i would be too, but i just got off the phone from comparing notes :)

Congrats Mike on the new goodies. :ro)

Will this addition keep you in the Street Modified pulling class?

Doug

"Tower, this is Duramax1 on runway six-niner ....preflight complete, turbos are spooled ... N20 engaged, flaps are down and ready for take-off...gitti-up"

"I enter warp speed"

With what? Sounds goofy

Coming from a guy with "A cop asked me once while he had me pulled over,"Where's the fire at"? I would have liked to have said, in them eight holes under my hood! " in his sig.

Maybe you pull your head out and see the point I am trying to make, with the pedal down on a fast vehicle it is hard to monitor all the inputs and keep it pointed in the right direction. If you have ever driven a vehicle that had enough power to lose control at high speeds you might understand what warp speed is.

DDEEAAMMM!!! Carrotborg slap!!! Speaking of pulling things out will the carrot fist ever be pulled outa your 4SS?

Do you have any smoke left to clean up or does the turbo take care of it and then some?

cleans it right up

mike how much does it still smoke. What chips are you running with the turbo. Does the turbo have a lot of lag. How much boost are you getting. Does it sound like a jet. Do you get turbo bark. Have you ran it with the nitrous. Could it use more fuel or do you get enough with just the injectors and chips.

none, quad stealth tuner and edge juice, no, 50psi, almost, yes letting off at high boost, no, yes

DDEEAAMMM!!! Carrotborg slap!!! Speaking of pulling things out will the carrot fist ever be pulled outa your 4SS?
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Holly Snikies Mike! It doesn't smoke? Needs MORE fuel? I'm beting it's crazy now, if you get more fuel....wow! I can't wait to see ya cream some Dodges this year! Way to go dude...

BTW- You're not going to KY this weekend are ya? I'm not sure how big of event that is...

Coming from a guy with "A cop asked me once while he had me pulled over,"Where's the fire at"? I would have liked to have said, in them eight holes under my hood! " in his sig.

Maybe you pull your head out and see the point I am trying to make, with the pedal down on a fast vehicle it is hard to monitor all the inputs and keep it pointed in the right direction. If you have ever driven a vehicle that had enough power to lose control at high speeds you might understand what warp speed is.


Just looking at your sig there cartercraft Al I'vin see is 05' F-350 CC 4X4 dually 6.0L Quadzilla 160hp module and Monster intake
00' 250 SC 4X4,4" DP to 5" straight pipe, boost-pyro gauges, Quadzilla 4-pos custom chip, and I don't see anything near possible to get you to warp speed,just goofey plain Ole goofey! Goofey as goofey gets almost if some one "Bonked" you in the head and you've gone Bonkers or sum'tin ;)



Yes're bob (or whom ever you are today,whored out username)there
is fire "In The Hole" and It's no ghost peddle mass air sensor throwing no speed limit hindered Big Black Zilla gorilla either!

Will someone pass the carrots and salt please! :D

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And Mike Tomac


I can't wait to here your track results,good luck

Just looking at your sig there cartercraft Al I'vin see is 05' F-350 CC 4X4 dually 6.0L Quadzilla 160hp module and Monster intake
00' 250 SC 4X4,4" DP to 5" straight pipe, boost-pyro gauges, Quadzilla 4-pos custom chip, and I don't see anything near possible to get you to warp speed,just goofey plain Ole goofey! Goofey as goofey gets almost if some one "Bonked" you in the head and you've gone Bonkers or sum'tin http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif



Yes're bob (or whom ever you are today,whored out username)there
is fire "In The Hole" and It's no ghost peddle mass air sensor throwing no speed limit hindered Big Black Zilla gorilla either!

Will someone pass the carrots and salt please! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/blahblah.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/blahblah.gif

I guess if it's not in my Sig. it hasn't been done or I can't know anything about it. Remember the items listed in your Sig are supposed to be the vehicles you posess, I own Fords, doesn't meen I don't know Chevys.

What have you done latly Mack, mostly ***** and whine on the forums? Thought so, stay behind the key board its safer there http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/censored.gif.

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I guess if it's not in my Sig. it hasn't been done or I can't know anything about it. Remember the items listed in your Sig are supposed to be the vehicles you posess, I own Fords, doesn't meen I don't know Chevys.

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Yes're bob (or whom ever you are today,whored out username)there
is fire "In The Hole" and It's no ghost peddle mass air sensor throwing no speed limit hindered Big Black Zilla gorilla either!

Will someone pass the carrots and salt please! :D


WATCH OUT MACK THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE "IN THE HOLE" :p:

Mike,how much EGT relief did this turbo give you? My cousins stacked dmax gets in egt trouble pretty quickly with the stock turbo on the higher settings.When you studded,did you pull the heads/replace the head gaskets,or remove the bolts indivdually and replace them one at a time? From your SOP meter,it sounds like you picked up 100+hp between the mods.:ro) The turbo will really help your diesel only performance.

Maybe you pull your head out and see the point I am trying to make, with the pedal down on a fast vehicle it is hard to monitor all the inputs and keep it pointed in the right direction. If you have ever driven a vehicle that had enough power to lose control at high speeds you might understand what warp speed is.You have 2 fords, what the hell have you drove thats fast?

Edit: I see now......he has rode in a friend of a friends of his uncles cousins brothers CHEVY and IT was fast

Edit: #2 :ro) Mike

carrotcrafter:rotflmao:

guys point is he has a ford i would bet with the quad box and the top speed raised like fords do,he would leave all the dmaxes ....eventually,he would have to wait for the dmax to hit top spped but then the ford would just come on past

I have a friend with a 32 Ford. It has a 351 cleavand with a 6:71. It runs 32x14 slicks out back.

Whenever somebody asked them how much boost it makes, they just laugh and shrug there shoulders.

Mike,how much EGT relief did this turbo give you? When you studded,did you pull the heads/replace the head gaskets,or remove the bolts indivdually and replace them one at a time? From your SOP meter,it sounds like you picked up 100+hp between the mods.:ro) The turbo will really help your diesel only performance.

I've seen a max of 1600 degrees where before I'd see a max of 1800. But remember I have more fuel now with the injectors. We replaced one bolt at a time with a stud. I still have 100K+ mile headgaskets. I didn't have HG issues before and none of the bolts were rusty that came out so we didn't think it was worth replacing them.

Mike ,Give me a shout. Mark

Mike cant wait to see you put a hurttin on those dodges this year.

Mike I know I am being very nosey but why arent you running the duramaximizer with the quad and the edge???

Mike

It looks like it's time to update the website! :D

Good luck this season. :grd:

Mike I know I am being very nosey but why arent you running the duramaximizer with the quad and the edge???

Yes, but I haven't ran it yet with the turbo. When Eric gets back from vacation I'll hook up the tech2 and see how my rail pressure is now that I have bigger nozzles with the Quad & Juice stack and then with the Duramaximizer turned on with the Quad and Juice stack.

Mike

It looks like it's time to update the website! :D

Good luck this season. :grd:

I've been updating DuramaxRacing.com (http://duramaxracing.com/) over the past few days.

Mike, don't think you'll like what you see with rail pressure, as i tried one last year with the 40's, and the truck did not like it. That was with a fresh frpv too, talk about burst......... wow

what didnt the truck like the duramaximizer????????

what didnt the truck like the duramaximizer????????
It doesn't like the fuel rails being sucked dry because the High Pressure Fuel Pump can't keep up!!!

Mike, don't think you'll like what you see with rail pressure, as i tried one last year with the 40's, and the truck did not like it. That was with a fresh frpv too, talk about burst......... wow
I've seen a 10k psi drop with just the Quad and E/J in testing, on 80 nozzles though.

i think i might just take a cruise to michigan just to take a ride...its killin me....damn this forum...LOL

i think i might just take a cruise to michigan just to take a ride...its killin me....damn this forum...LOL Ryan we are suppose to make TS Challenge I can let you know for sure in a few weeks.:grd:

Ryan we are suppose to make TS Challenge I can let you know for sure in a few weeks.:grd:
don't tease me, im planning on goin but its not gonna do me much good to compete. you gotta take me for a ride...:muahaha:

Will keep you posted.

what didnt the truck like the duramaximizer????????
At least on my truck it didn't like it too well. Could be the truck as my truck reacts alot different than others here. My quad never rattled that bad or had alot of the sypmtoms others had though, so more than likely might have been my possessed 01 :D

Good luck with the new setup. Can't wait to hear the new times @ mph.

Buck

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I guess if it's not in my Sig. it hasn't been done or I can't know anything about it. Remember the items listed in your Sig are supposed to be the vehicles you posess, I own Fords, doesn't meen I don't know Chevys.

What have you done latly Mack, mostly ***** and whine on the forums? Thought so, stay behind the key board its safer there http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/censored.gif.

Ok we believe you ;)

But I must ask what forums there num nuts,as in plural? There is only ONE forum and it's name is The DieselPlace.com that is worth a darn.All the other Gm diesel sites don't rank :D

Even Quad can't stay away from this one,chump.You know, that's a fact cannot be denied.Go back in the shadows Ford dude Chevy knowing,and be happy we allow you to watch

Goofey just plain Ole goofey :D

Tell Alvin Mac sends his luv,luv of the TTS Xtreme,the finest tune in Duramax land.Discounts are just that,prove ONE thing,crappy sales,are we gonna see rattlecan technology at the dollar store soon?

Ok we believe you ;)

But I must ask what forums there num nuts,as in plural? There is only ONE forum and it's name is The DieselPlace.com that is worth a darn.All the other Gm diesel sites don't rank :D

Even Quad can't stay away from this one,chump.You know, that's a fact cannot be denied.Go back in the shadows Ford dude Chevy knowing,and be happy we allow you to watch

Goofey just plain Ole goofey :D

Tell Alvin Mac sends his luv,luv of the TTS Xtreme,the finest tune in Duramax land.Discounts are just that,prove ONE thing,crappy sales,are we gonna see rattlecan technology at the dollar store soon?

Hey Mackin, lighten up a bit will ya.
Maybe they do produce more Power than the TTS Maybe not, But pulling this gig is really declasse even for a member/ moderator.

If you have something to put up, put it up for scrutiny... if not.... then quit perpetuating this behaviour.

This goes for both of you, I am singling out Mac because he knows better (I Think)

For anyone pushing the limits to accept the fruits of failure, I salute you. For those who do nothing but sit back and whine..... your signup sheet is in the ladies room princess.

Peace Out

Hey Mackin, lighten up a bit will ya.
Maybe they do produce more Power than the TTS Maybe not, But pulling this gig is really declasse even for a member/ moderator.

If you have something to put up, put it up for scrutiny... if not.... then quit perpetuating this behaviour.

This goes for both of you, I am singling out Mac because he knows better (I Think)

For anyone pushing the limits to accept the fruits of failure, I salute you. For those who do nothing but sit back and whine..... your signup sheet is in the ladies room princess.

Peace Outwe know who greases his donkey(mac)

Now look what you guys have gone and done,sorry for leaning on the "shared" screen name :bawl:


I just get all goofy now and again,my apologies :o:

Donkey? The only donkey I remember is that one that had a funny head.How come Cartercraft never posts in the Ford forum? :confuzeld are you?

Oh well :hail: See ya at the dodge ball court

I remember when someone's sig said Quadzilla makes the power and Suncoast gets it to the ground. Now Quadzilla is "junk" "rattle can technology" etc. Every time I see this it reminds me of the word the Big Shwag on Monster garage says when Jesse walks in with a trick set of wheels.


:sorrysign but it's true...

I used to say my 486 was bad assed and the hottest thing since sliced bread

Edit: Sorry to bring this farther OT Mike. When we going to see some vids of this monster and are you going to bring here over to the grove anytime soon? When you taking here to the track? No more smoking out intersections for you though:damnit1: So you made a comment about thinking you may have not needed the studs??? I have wondered about that becasue guys are running tons of spray on the stock gaskets and bolts.....what are your thoughts? I guess I dont see the diffeence in air becasue of lotsa spray or a bigger turbo, except a turbo is always there......

Even though my other gauge only went to 30 psi, on spray I wasn't seeing more than 35 because it would dip down in the high twenties after a shift. Now with the bigger turbo I'm seeing 50psi of boost. I'm not sure what the cylinder pressure differences are between my previous setup and my current setup but I'm guessing I have way more cylinder pressure now. Until someone tries the bigger turbo w/o headstuds we won't know how much the stock gaskets and stock bolts will take.

I thought it was about cylineder pressure and it would be fairly close regardless if it was a ton of spray or if it was just a big turbo?

So you made a comment about thinking you may have not needed the studs??? I have wondered about that becasue guys are running tons of spray on the stock gaskets and bolts.....what are your thoughts? I guess I dont see the diffeence in air becasue of lotsa spray or a bigger turbo, except a turbo is always there......
I appreciate all the kind words, but I don't need any help. I could comment on the headstud question but how could I possibly know what the limit is being a Ford guy and all.

As for not having a Chevy I have left one out, I have a Chevy truck, it's not a diesel but it is tubbed with a 4 link turning 32*17" slicks. It runs 7.0's in the 1/8 mile. Not to many 82' ElCaminos running around.

Sorry for dragging the post OT Mike, good luck and hope you kick Censored this year.

There are ways to measure cylinder pressure while under full load but the equipment is expensive.

Its cheaper to take preventive measures (studs) then to replace gaskets time and time again.

Damn it, now I am posting on vacation!

not to mention you have to buy new bolts every time because the stockers are a one time use TTY bolt

If you want to continue to talk crap send me a PM. Why withhold all this wonderfull info you have? To "hurt" me and all the other guys that give you ****? :rolleyes: WTFE:rolleyes:

Think job security Eric! You should be trying to get people to push the limits of the stock bolts and gaskets LOL

Oh yes the torque to yeild bolts. How much those dudes cost for a set? Probably not cheap i would guess. Probably make me think the studs aint a bad price. Although I know what I have bought a set of BBC head studs for that were a "special" set for aftermarket heads and they wernt any were near the 800$, I would put em on but it just seems like they are gouging ya BIG time

Phil, stock head bolts are only about 3.00 ea. compared to the 22.00 or so for the studs each.

Pulling the heads off isnt something I want to have to do.. Nor would the customer want to pay the ~40 hrs of book labor for it.

How many hour job is it to just swap studs for bolts for most normal guys on an LB7? A BBC or a SBC would be gravy but I'm thinking a LB& would suck blow and swallow in comparison.

I remember when someone's sig said Quadzilla makes the power and Suncoast gets it to the ground. Now Quadzilla is "junk" "rattle can technology" etc. Every time I see this it reminds me of the word the Big Shwag on Monster garage says when Jesse walks in with a trick set of wheels.


:sorrysign but it's true...


Fair enough

There are ways to measure cylinder pressure while under full load but the equipment is expensive.
shurely theres some one here smart enough to calculate the additional pressure..............all I can remeber from theremogoddamnits is PV=nrt

There are ways to measure cylinder pressure while under full load but the equipment is expensive.
I saw a company do some dynamic in cylinder pressure measurement on a dyno years ago, using a piezo electric crystal type sensor. It was the coolest thing to see a P/V diagram related to crank angle on an 8,000 rpm SBC. :eek:

shurely theres some one here smart enough to calculate the additional pressure..............all I can remeber from theremogoddamnits is PV=nrt
Hey, I remember thermodydammits...

PV=NRT is the ideal gas law, all you have to do is remember that T is absolute temperature (in Kelvin) and P is pressure in atmospheres.

Back of the envelope, 1 atm = 14.7 psi, so let's say for shiz and giggles you're normally running 29.4 psi (2 atm) and now you're at 50 psi (3.4 atm).

Then just go P1V1 = P2V2....or P1(18) = P2(1) (for 18:1 compression) and you get 2*18 = 36 atm (529 psi) vs 3.4*18 = 61 atm or 899 psi. This is at TDC BEFORE the fuel injection event.

According the diesel cycle, burning is said to be "a constant pressure event," although that doesn't sound right to me off the top of my head.

Gotta go crack the books some more.... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/help2.gif

Betcha Fingers knows.

Fellow geeks, check out http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/diesel.html

OK, I actually read the link that I posted....duh!

Adiabatic compression pressure is figured that the ratio of the pressure at TDC to the pressure at the bottom of the intake stroke = (compression ratio)^1.4.....which = 57.

So let's try this again, if we're at 2 atm boost, the final pressure is 2*57 = 114 atm = 1676 psi. Doing the same with 3.4 atm you get 2849 psi.

Anyone got any better ideas???

OK, I actually read the link that I posted....duh!

Adiabatic compression pressure is figured that the ratio of the pressure at TDC to the pressure at the bottom of the intake stroke = (compression ratio)^1.4.....which = 57.

So let's try this again, if we're at 2 atm boost, the final pressure is 2*57 = 114 atm = 1676 psi. Doing the same with 3.4 atm you get 2849 psi.

Anyone got any better ideas???
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