Watch the ****** out!!!!!!!!!!

Just one peice of the big plan... Looking to destroy a DTT trans (or next victim that pulls next to me at a stoplight or xmas tree) here shortly...

What is it

It's a Torque Converter. Or also known around here as a T/C :exactly:

I think tranytom knows that. He probably wanted to know what brand.:exactly:

And also what is going to be behind it.

Like one clutch or three, SC, ATS, TTC ??? Who

Cool Beans!

What Stage of DTT Trans 1 or 2?

Looks like a TTS.

TCI, multi-disc. You can see the sticker in the top right corner of the first pic, under the converter. Just recieved it late last week.

Going in with a DTT Stage 2 here within the next month.

Well where is it. dave

I know the trans was delivered..... what is the news.... let's hear it!

I got a better question? When will DTT's T/C be ready!!!!:D :D :joke:

I know the trans was delivered..... what is the news.... let's hear it!He doesn't have it yet. Hopefully though he'll have some info to share in a couple weeks. Maybe around the time I have some updates.

I got a better question? When will DTT's T/C be ready!!!!:D :D :joke:I'll ask on monday!

You know how it goes.

Busy Busy Busy.

What i find terribly amazing is the fact that a single disc TC can can hold a 886 HP Cummins with a few less SQIN clutch area than an allison.

I will be able to compare it to the other single i was running.....whichever one I like best i can keep!

I'd like to know the % of the new one, but that is probably SS for now.

(Can't wait to get rid of this stock POS.... I can WALK thru it on sublev1 power 3 on my Juice only!:eek: )

Yeah I know they're pretty busy. I bet it'll be a kick ass convertor when it's done though.

Yeah I know they're pretty busy. I bet it'll be a kick ass convertor when it's done though.
I can't wait

4x4x5x4:ro)

Time for more BOMBs

CAC is on it's way

MDP Muffler Delete Pipe (Twins make the 4" Banks exhaust too quiet!)

#@$)(#@!$)( #$%%$)%(... stuff.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Gotta talk to another enthusiast soon..... Don, Scott, Opie, Nathan, Stefan.

Looks like things are gonna be hot at Indy this year.

If i win the lotto i will make the trip down!:lol:

TCI, multi-disc. You can see the sticker in the top right corner of the first pic, under the converter. Just recieved it late last week.

Going in with a DTT Stage 2 here within the next month.
That billet cover was designed in my shop by Steve Cole.:cool:

Still waiting. dave

Dave,

Same here. Stefan said the unit shipped out late last week so it should be here anyday now. Plans are to possibly install it the weekend of the 21st. Was going to do it next weekend but I have to head down to San Diego for business. I'll keep you posted.

Mike L,

Pardon me if this is out of line but why would it matter who/where the cover was design at in relation to this thread??

If there is concern, I'll make a phone call to verify who/where it was designed, but I don't feel that is important...

Thanks,

Eric

I think Mike was explaining why he thought you had a TTS.

Mike L,

Pardon me if this is out of line but why would it matter who/where the cover was design at in relation to this thread??

If there is concern, I'll make a phone call to verify who/where it was designed, but I don't feel that is important...

Thanks,

Eric
Eric
You started the thread with pictures and we had to guess. It looked like a TTS but it isn't. I merely posted who designed the outer part of the cover. It does not have anything to do with the thread. I am told it is a good converter by the parts manufacturer.
mike

Ok, you will be seeing many new players in the "triple disc" for the Cummins, D-Max, Ford PSD. Why? One of the existing players is having the triple disc covers produced off-shore for considerable less cost than CNCing full billets from a 150# chunk of steel. Now, having said that, there is NO problem with the steel and quality of these covers.We are having some of our design covers along with other items mrg. by the same off-shore company. This off-shore company is very high in quality and ethics. Unfortunatly to remain competitive it leaves no choice but to go this route. I would rather use US steel but the US steel industry has priced itself out of the market. Anyway these covers are being marketed to every converter rebuilder or mfg that wants them. So all of a sudden there are converter companies building "TRIPLE DISC" that barely knew how to spell them 6 months ago.Buying a cover and the pieces doesn't mean all converters will be created equal and it doesn't give these "new" players the data created by the experience in this field. The other downside is that all of these converters will have the "round" tab design. In the past we have seen this design produce a pattern of wear between the cover and tabs. The company that uses square tabs avoids the cost concern by building thier cover in 2 seperate pieces and welding them together. The correct name for such a piece is a "weldment" although it is advertised as a billet. I am not condemning this method, it just doesn't appeal to me. I mention this because by using this method it saves machining and material cost as opposed to mfg. a true billet. I just don't like the idea of all the welding and machining.

So in the future there will be many "new" triple disc popping up. Im sure prices and quality will be all over the board. You the consumer will have to decide. Sun Coast will continue to base its product and mfg. procedures based on engineering and its 15 years in the converter industry and 41 yearsin the transmission industry. Does that mean our way is the only way? Nope, we just know what works and what doesn't. I believe a product should be able to stand on its own merits without a lot of smoke and mirrors to make it appear something that it isn't. Do new and different ideas promote advancements? Absolutely. But that is a two edged sword, because it also produces an equal amount of crap that doesn't work. The trick is being able to discern the difference.

The other purpose of this thread is because I am tiring of the DTT-2 war.

On a completely DIFFERENT note the secondary purpose is I tire of certain people telling the same story and changing the facts so many times he has convinced himself he isn't lying any more.

Get the popcorn.
Smoop;)

Wow Joe, not only do you make trannies and converters, you make rivers too??!! How do you find the time???

Joe

You can't mean whom I think you mean? Their $hit don't stink. They told us so. A thousand sled dogs can't be wrong.

Smoop,

Thanks for the inside scoop in the converter industry! :ro)
I appreciate you sharing the info. :Handshake

Ok, you will be seeing many new players in the "triple disc" for the Cummins, D-Max, Ford PSD. Why? One of the existing players is having the triple disc covers produced off-shore for considerable less cost than CNCing full billets from a 150# chunk of steel. Now, having said that, there is NO problem with the steel and quality of these covers.We are having some of our design covers along with other items mrg. by the same off-shore company. This off-shore company is very high in quality and ethics. Unfortunatly to remain competitive it leaves no choice but to go this route. I would rather use US steel but the US steel industry has priced itself out of the market. Anyway these covers are being marketed to every converter rebuilder or mfg that wants them. So all of a sudden there are converter companies building "TRIPLE DISC" that barely knew how to spell them 6 months ago.Buying a cover and the pieces doesn't mean all converters will be created equal and it doesn't give these "new" players the data created by the experience in this field. The other downside is that all of these converters will have the "round" tab design. In the past we have seen this design produce a pattern of wear between the cover and tabs. The company that uses square tabs avoids the cost concern by building thier cover in 2 seperate pieces and welding them together. The correct name for such a piece is a "weldment" although it is advertised as a billet. I am not condemning this method, it just doesn't appeal to me. I mention this because by using this method it saves machining and material cost as opposed to mfg. a true billet. I just don't like the idea of all the welding and machining.

So in the future there will be many "new" triple disc popping up. Im sure prices and quality will be all over the board. You the consumer will have to decide. Sun Coast will continue to base its product and mfg. procedures based on engineering and its 15 years in the converter industry and 41 yearsin the transmission industry. Does that mean our way is the only way? Nope, we just know what works and what doesn't. I believe a product should be able to stand on its own merits without a lot of smoke and mirrors to make it appear something that it isn't. Do new and different ideas promote advancements? Absolutely. But that is a two edged sword, because it also produces an equal amount of crap that doesn't work. The trick is being able to discern the difference.

The other purpose of this thread is because I am tiring of the DTT-2 war.

On a completely DIFFERENT note the secondary purpose is I tire of certain people telling the same story and changing the facts so many times he has convinced himself he isn't lying any more.

Get the popcorn.
Smoop;)
Avoiding the pot-stirring and addressing your main point...
Sad to see yet another manufacturing process go over-seas. Obviously smoop, if you have to follow the competition's lead to stay price competitive, you have no choice.
Here's hoping that the steel industry can get the market again, and more product can be made within our borders once again under a fair price schedule.

I know first hand of the terrible issues with the US steel company's out pricing themselves to be non competitive in todays market.Getting tougher and tougher.

On a completely Different subject.But some what relevant "Out Sourcing"

It says mountains of words when some are on the constant Offense to attempt to prove a fictitious point.Endlessly attempting to gain underground support with BS.Around my neck of the woods we call that Damage Control! Big time confusing the real issue(s) at hand.

Most (majority) can see straight through these type of tactics,others (a VERY small minority) are naive and quite gullible,simple minded.Tend to have blind loyalist behavior.Border line ignorant,Can't see the big picture,quick to pass judgement.Not your average DieselPlace member by a long shot!


Popcorn sucks, empty and useless, like many a comment(s)!

I'll wait patiently,hungering for the truth,for myself and others.Takes a man to stand up,I'll take steak and beer to suppress my appetite! A real man's meal

Happy Motoring :)

I know first hand of the terrible issues with the US steel company's out pricing themselves to be non competitive in todays market.Getting tougher and tougher.

On a completely Different subject.But some what relevant "Out Sourcing"

It says mountains of words when some are on the constant Offense to attempt to prove a fictitious point.Endlessly attempting to gain underground support with BS.Around my neck of the woods we call that Damage Control! Big time confusing the real issue(s) at hand.

Most (majority) can see straight through these type of tactics,others (a VERY small minority) are naive and quite gullible,simple minded.Tend to have blind loyalist behavior.Border line ignorant,Can't see the big picture,quick to pass judgement.Not your average DieselPlace member by a long shot!


Popcorn sucks, empty and useless, like many a comment(s)!

I'll wait patiently,hungering for the truth,for myself and others.Takes a man to stand up,I'll take steak and beer to suppress my appetite! A real man's meal

Happy Motoring :)
:wtf:

:wtf:
I think that was Mac's :rant: on Suncoast(smoop's) post since they are no longer :hug:.

Just my opinion.

Happy Mothers day!!:offtopic:

It is what it is

I guess posting shots in a subtle kind of way is a strategic way to vent while hopefully keeping the door open. My guess is that it's only a matter of time untill the lid blows off. Time to start stocking up on popcorn. The time is drawing near.

I guess posting shots in a subtle kind of way is a strategic way to vent while hopefully keeping the door open. My guess is that it's only a matter of time untill the lid blows off. Time to start stocking up on popcorn. The time is drawing near.
I'm thinking a 12 pack and some beef jerky..........maybe some tequila if it goes really bad.............:p: :p: :p:

T:cool: NY

I think that was Mac's :rant: on Suncoast(smoop's) post since they are no longer :hug:.


I guess the new emoticons get put to good use after all........ :stick_out

:lol:

I guess the new emoticons get put to good use after all........ :stick_out

:lol:
I thought they came in real handy in the DTT scandal. :lol:

SO MAC HOW IS THE TTS TUNED TENSPEED PERFORMING FOR YOU??? ):h

The TTS runs strong enough to cook clutches that's for sure. I massaged it out of the garage yesterday to clean her up for the transplant this week,I hope.

I should be tweaking and playing with it instead of wasting my time here entertaining the,well lets leave it there,won't we.

I'm thinking a 12 pack and some beef jerky

T:cool: NY
I've made that mistake before......making a dinner of that is a very :badidea: It seems that it all turns into a solid lump the next day and it feels like you swallowed a brick.

IS it up and running yet.dave

I'll let you know tomorrow after the test drive.

:cool2:

Well how is it. dave

Does anyone know? Elowe has been online but is not replying? Surely he has told someone what the deal is.

Still playing around with it as I haven't had much time to really lean on it yet. Shifts are firm but there are a few little quirks that I have been talking to Bill about (more less wondering if its just me).

At moderate throttle it'll spin the tires when it hits second when cold, bark them into second when warmed up and under full throttle. I have had a chance to click throught the gears with oxide and hits them just fine.

Looking into a cooler as she does run a bit warmer than I'd like her to and a lift pump will be getting installed at first chance.

The truck is going in next Friday for injectors as I have two that are high (1 is -6-7, the other is +10-11).

Also going through making sure I have all the current PCM and TCM updates.

Sorry about the delayed response.

Cool Beans.

Lean on it?

PFFFT... Flog it like nobodys business!

How warm is a little too warm for your liking?