I tried searching several different places and couldn't find what I wanted to know. Does anyone have any experience running both these sets of tires? I found a place where I can get some MT/R's for the same price as the Pro-Grades. I had originally planned on the Pro-Grades in a 265, but I might go with the MT/R's in a 245. I figured the MT/R's would look a little "beefier" in the stock 245 size and that way I could stay with the stock size. Reading on the net it sounds like as far as tire life they are better than most other MT tires, but not as good as the Pro-Grades. I'm sure road noise is amplified as well. What do you guys think? I'm not going with any other MT tire if I go this route. I just specifically want to know between the goodyears. Anyone have any pics with a rig with MT/R's on it? If I can figure this one out I can finally decide what to do!

I forgot to mention the main criteria I want to know about is performance in sand between the two. I figure the ride and mileage will be significantly better with the Pro-Grade, but anyone have any advice on how both will perform in sandy conditions. We live on a farm where it is very sandy out in the fields.

I have no experience with the Pro Grades, but I ran a set of MT/R's on my old truck. For soft conditions, they were fantastic. However, they didn't last long with a lot of daily driving on pavement. If I rememember correctly, I got about 20k out of them. Road noise wasn't bad at all, and for soft terrain, they were great.

Probably would be best to run with the Pro-Grades since the majority of my driving will be on pavement. It would be nice to have the MT/R for when I'm driving around the farm, but the Pro-Grades probably won't do bad. In fact on Goodyears website they rate the Pro-Grade better for dry traction over the MT/R, but for off-road the MT/R is better.

Probably would be best to run with the Pro-Grades since the majority of my driving will be on pavement. It would be nice to have the MT/R for when I'm driving around the farm, but the Pro-Grades probably won't do bad. In fact on Goodyears website they rate the Pro-Grade better for dry traction over the MT/R, but for off-road the MT/R is better.

If you have the MT/R's siped they will last about twice as long as normal. I know a few guys with Siped MT/R's that have got almost 40K on them and there is still some tread left. They would be a great tire for sand.

I have no experience with pro grades, how ever I have plenty of experience with MT/R's in a variety of sizes and vehicles. They are the only tires I have owned for the past 6 years and will continue to be. I keep them rotated(about every 6k), and check the alignement every 12K, and get 32,000 to 36,000 depending on burnouts and such.

I have no experience with pro grades, how ever I have plenty of experience with MT/R's in a variety of sizes and vehicles. They are the only tires I have owned for the past 6 years and will continue to be. I keep them rotated(about every 6k), and check the alignement every 12K, and get 32,000 to 36,000 depending on burnouts and such.


How's the ride? I've heard the Pro-Grades have a great ride. I realize the MT/R's will have more road noise, but is it tolerable?

if it's beefier you want I'd avoid 245s. 265s are the smallest I'd run, and the bulge will help you stay afloat in the sand. Whatever tire you get, make sure to air them down before going to the beach

if it's beefier you want I'd avoid 245s. 265s are the smallest I'd run, and the bulge will help you stay afloat in the sand. Whatever tire you get, make sure to air them down before going to the beach


I wished we lived by the beach. We live out on a farm and it's really sandy out in the fields. The problem with the MT/R's is that they only come in a 265 size in load range D. I really want to stay with the E range because occassionally I tow real heavy. I realize I only have a 6.0, but I pull north of 20K+ when I'm hauling cattle, but only for short distances. I think the Pro-Grades will suit my needs fine. They'll definately be better than what I'm running now. Although my stock Duravis' have actually been pretty good tires.

I wished we lived by the beach. We live out on a farm and it's really sandy out in the fields. The problem with the MT/R's is that they only come in a 265 size in load range D. I really want to stay with the E range because occassionally I tow real heavy. I realize I only have a 6.0, but I pull north of 20K+ when I'm hauling cattle, but only for short distances. I think the Pro-Grades will suit my needs fine. They'll definately be better than what I'm running now. Although my stock Duravis' have actually been pretty good tires.
Check the actual weight ratings, not just the letter. Sometimes a larger D tire will have similar ratings to smaller E's.

I think they ride just fine, I had 265/75 16's on before and never had any issues towing. I now have 275/65 18's that are a load range E, and no complaints yet

I had the M/TR's in a 37X12.50R17 and I absolutely loved them. I ran a high tire pressure, since I primarily used the truck on the highway, but they were great in the snow and wet conditions, very minimal noise for a mud tire and I had 20K mi on them(before I sold the truck) with very minimal wear. No experience in sand though.

Thats odd cause I run the MT/r's and roughly have 35,000 miles on mine and it's all dry pavement and snowy conditions. I love the MT/r's, but I am thinking about going to the BF's (KM2's). The noise from the MT/r's isn't bad and are great in the snow.

Pics of the MT/r's are in my garage, but there the 285's.


I have no experience with the Pro Grades, but I ran a set of MT/R's on my old truck. For soft conditions, they were fantastic. However, they didn't last long with a lot of daily driving on pavement. If I rememember correctly, I got about 20k out of them. Road noise wasn't bad at all, and for soft terrain, they were great.

Thats odd cause I run the MT/r's and roughly have 35,000 miles on mine and it's all dry pavement and snowy conditions. I love the MT/r's, but I am thinking about going to the BF's (KM2's). The noise from the MT/r's isn't bad and are great in the snow.

Pics of the MT/r's are in my garage, but there the 285's.


Why are you thinking of switching? How bad is the road noice? Is it tolerable?

I use my Pro-Grades on the farm, and I have no complaints. Good all around, nice on the highway, good on snow & ice. Also went down a mud road after a 2" rain, and I got through. So take it for what it's worth. I have 33,000kms (~20,000 miles) and you'd hardly know it. Just make sure you buy them when the 4 for 3 sale is on.

Thats odd cause I run the MT/r's and roughly have 35,000 miles on mine and it's all dry pavement and snowy conditions. I love the MT/r's, but I am thinking about going to the BF's (KM2's). The noise from the MT/r's isn't bad and are great in the snow.

Pics of the MT/r's are in my garage, but there the 285's.

Hey Ridin, how do you find the MTR's on ice and packed snow?

We don't get that much deep snow here, but we get alot of polished ice and hard packed snow on ice, Ive been to chicken to run my MTR's on it fearing they will act like the old BFG MT's I tried on a truck once in winter.

Thanks.

how do you find the MTR's on ice and packed snow?

We don't get that much deep snow here, but we get alot of polished ice and hard packed snow on ice, Ive been to chicken to run my MTR's on it fearing they will act like the old BFG MT's I tried on a truck once in winter.

Thanks.

I had my 305/70/17 MTR's siped and they worked great on packed snow and pretty good on ice. I don't think your traction on ice would be that great if they weren't siped because of the large tread blocks. Siping allows the tread blocks to flex more than unsiped tread blocks which gives you better traction on ice.

I use my Pro-Grades on the farm, and I have no complaints. Good all around, nice on the highway, good on snow & ice. Also went down a mud road after a 2" rain, and I got through. So take it for what it's worth. I have 33,000kms (~20,000 miles) and you'd hardly know it. Just make sure you buy them when the 4 for 3 sale is on.

Hey oldbrownsierra, I was wondering if the 245 pro-grades you were talking about were on the white 2500 in you're garage pics. They look bigger than that. Just curious.

Why are you thinking of switching? How bad is the road noice? Is it tolerable?

I have always liked BF's and the new KM2's are pretty close in tread aggersiveness and price. Plus I like the new tread pattern of the KM2's. Here is the difference in tread between the 2 tires by links.
MT/R's - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+MT%2FR&
KM2's - http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/overview/mud-terrain-t-a-km2/3930.html

Hey Ridin, how do you find the MTR's on ice and packed snow?

We don't get that much deep snow here, but we get alot of polished ice and hard packed snow on ice, Ive been to chicken to run my MTR's on it fearing they will act like the old BFG MT's I tried on a truck once in winter.

Thanks.

I haven't had any problems at all with them. There aggersive yet not over aggresive, but there are times that I have to keep up the RPM's to have the tires spin. The spining is what keeps the tires from getting packed with snow making any tire useless.