: Quad 110 tuner
GPtimes2 12-09-2003, 11:56 PM Hi, I'am lookig for info on the quad 110 tuner such as, does it increase pump or rail pressures,pulse width, timing, or influence injectors somehow. Does it increase transmision line pressure. Also, do you think the tranny will hold up at 110 for the long haul or would it need to be set at 70 or 90 to get a long life as a daily driver and a little hot rodding. Will be towing a 3900# boat weekly in the season. Thanks for your wisdom.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif I just know enough to know I don't know! http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif
GMC-2002-Dmax 12-10-2003, 12:22 AM The 70 is fine for around town,
The 110 should be OK, if you are easy on it.
If you go for the 135 hp start saving for a tranny.
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jesshd 12-10-2003, 09:20 AM It is a timing and fuel box. It will increase the timing and the fuel injector pulse width. It will not change anything with the fuel pressure or tranny. The only box out there right now that can "talk" to the transmission is the Juice.
Jess
Quadzilla 12-10-2003, 11:16 AM The only box out there right now that can "talk" to the transmission is the Juice.
Jess
Actually I can talk to it!
New tuners will have a transmission reset option for those that have soft shifts or those that are swapping trannies!
This will help the relearn mode.
Quad
mjohnson97045 12-10-2003, 11:41 AM Any EGT readings using the Quad, and while towing? I am looking for the coolest box.
bybycop 12-10-2003, 02:07 PM This post has some great info! There is a couple others that have some more info on the egts.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=138&PN=1
I have the 135 stealth and love it. Mostly just run in the 110 setting just for tranny purposes. But love the raw power!!! If you are going to buy get it from Van Massy. He has been really great to work with!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif
Mike
Gray Max 12-10-2003, 09:46 PM I am running the 135 and love it. I normally run on 90 just to save wear and tear on the clutch. EGT's are well within a good range. The truck actually runs cooler with the quad than stock. Quad's customer service is great and I highly recommend their product.
silvermax 12-10-2003, 10:28 PM I also run the 135 and love it and it stays in the 135 mode from day 1 and have yet to limp the tranny and its been on 135 setting 1500 miles of the 3300 I have on it nowhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif
Mike L. 12-10-2003, 10:30 PM [/QUOTE]
Actually I can talk to it!
New tuners will have a transmission reset option for those that have soft shifts or those that are swapping trannies!
This will help the relearn mode.
Please explain these statements. Your reset button may clear a limp code but it wont help relearn. Trans will go into its slow relearn just like a scanner clearing a code. Slow.
Quad
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Mackin 12-10-2003, 10:59 PM Man I was waiting for someone to ask .....
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BIG DIPPER 12-10-2003, 11:08 PM THAT IS FREAKIN HILARIOUS............
Mike L. 12-10-2003, 11:11 PM guess i wont say what i saw in his program as far as tranmissions go.
Quadzilla 12-11-2003, 12:52 AM Well lets see here...
First since you don't have version 1.17 you wouldn't know about the reset.
Second you and your buddy are still too stupid to copy us.
Third, if you only knew what set of maps you have!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
Ok now that the incompetent people are dealt with I can tell you how this works.
Oh and by the way in case you didn't know, I thought you might need a definition of incompetent.
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The tranny reset is like what is found on an Allison 1000 scan tool or a Tech 2. This is a new option users will have in the menu. Some people will want to reset the learning and others will not. We recommend trying to drive the truck without using the reset to start with. This reset will usually cause soft shifts to firm up and not be so sloppy.
Now you are correct about the scan tool, it only resets the 0700 series of codes for the transmission. I believe we are the only ones that can clear such codes, but this does not reset the trans. You are so smart http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif. Too bad you were unaware of the new part huh.
Another thing, you didn't see anything about transmission in any tuning, so pull your head out of your rear. You guys are too stupid to make up good lies.
And just for reference I have never look at any programming from the West coast, it seems the poeple most worried about being copied are really only scared of themselves.
I just can't wait for the release of the super tune.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif
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Mac
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heartbeatcanada 12-11-2003, 07:58 AM Wowsers. This is gonna get good. Remember guys keep em above the waist and no scratching or pulling, lets have a clean fighthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ouch.gif...okay........break. Let's get it on.......as Big John Mcarthy would say. Later Jeremyhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif
Coghlin 12-11-2003, 09:23 AM Mackin,
Where do you get that stuff? It is too funny.
Mike L. 12-11-2003, 10:54 AM Quad
i have never knocked your product publicly or privately; i think you make a very good product. I asked a simple question and you more or less answered it. I wish you had been a little more civil in your answer and no i dont have the capability to look at anybodys program nor do i want to. I do transmissions, not programing. Sorry about the little jibe, it was for fun only
mike
Quadzilla 12-11-2003, 11:08 AM Ok lets reverse this then.
I tore apart one of your trannies and I won't say what I saw inside.
All I can say is it does not do much more than stock, it will still slip.
Same sort of comment different parts, make you happy?
Second, I get tired of people trying to read our programming, but I guess if I didn't know how to tune I would try and copy too.
Quad
Mike L. 12-11-2003, 12:03 PM Quad
Now that you got the last word in can we be friends?
mike
GPtimes2 12-11-2003, 12:20 PM Any more insight on the original post would be apreciated. Thanks again.
Quadzilla 12-11-2003, 03:48 PM Hi, I'am lookig for info on the quad 110 tuner such as, does it increase pump or rail pressures,pulse width, timing, or influence injectors somehow. Does it increase transmision line pressure. Also, do you think the tranny will hold up at 110 for the long haul or would it need to be set at 70 or 90 to get a long life as a daily driver and a little hot rodding. Will be towing a 3900# boat weekly in the season. Thanks for your wisdom.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif I just know enough to know I don't know! http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif
Ok getting back on subject I will answer your questions the best I can.
WE alter fuel injection pulse width and fuel injection timing.
In a round about way it tells the transmission to raise some solenoid pressures which will increase line pressure to an extent. This is why we get such positive gear changes.
AS far as the transmission is concerned it is hard to say. I have guys with over 50K running a 135 tune and towing 8-10k trailers. Other guys can run through them in a few thousand?
So far as I am aware no one has trashed a transmission with the 110hp or less tunes. Could it happen? Well I am a firm believer that anything can happen, but for most people I don't think we will have any problems.
As always if you are going to tow we recommend exhaust and gauges!
thanks,
Quad
Mackin 12-11-2003, 03:54 PM Hi, I'am lookig for info on the quad 110 tuner such as, does it increase pump or rail pressures,pulse width, timing, or influence injectors somehow. Does it increase transmision line pressure. Also, do you think the tranny will hold up at 110 for the long haul or would it need to be set at 70 or 90 to get a long life as a daily driver and a little hot rodding. Will be towing a 3900# boat weekly in the season. Thanks for your wisdom.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif I just know enough to know I don't know! http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif
You did get left out of the mix, our apologies ...
Timing and Pulse ....
No to any Transmission modifications ... Use lower tunes for towing, gauges should be consider a priority ... As with any modification moderation is the key if your not looking for any accelerated maintenance or addition ware and tare...
Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gifEdited by: Mackin
Minn-Kota 12-11-2003, 06:55 PM The 110 tuner is a good unit. I cannot say whether it is better or worse than the Juice since I've never had the opportunity to run the Juice, but I can say that I am very pleased with the added get up and go of the 110 Stealth.
I also like the fact that it can remove the governor and also recalibrate for larger tires. That is what sealed the deal on my decision of which tuner to purchase. I don't think you'll be disappointed if you go with either, but you know where I stand. Someday I would like to try a 90 HP Juice to see how it compares.
QUAD- Please empty your message box. I have a pending PM to send to ya! Thanks!
jermck 12-12-2003, 12:08 AM Quad,
Will the 110 work on resetting the tire size for 2001 yet?
Mackin 12-12-2003, 06:48 AM Quad,
Will the 110 work on resetting the tire size for 2001 yet?
I can on my truck if need be with the 215 Box the 110 must be the same .....
Mac
DMAX2DAMAX 12-12-2003, 08:36 AM I had the 110 and it does do the tire recal!
On edit: I'm an idiot, I didn't notice the "01" and mines 03.Edited by: DMAX2DAMAX
cmadmaxman 12-12-2003, 08:47 AM jermck,
Quad proably will drop in here, but this is what I know.
From what Quad has let me know, he thinks that they got the problem resolved sometime this month. The proplem they have had with some of the 01's like ours, is that the maping is diffrent, so programing has been a bear.
Hope that we get the updates for the trans reset with the reflash. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
Mackin 12-12-2003, 09:30 AM jermck,
Quad proably will drop in here, but this is what I know.
From what Quad has let me know, he thinks that they got the problem resolved sometime this month. The proplem they have had with some of the 01's like ours, is that the maping is diffrent, so programing has been a bear.
Hope that we get the updates for the trans reset with the reflash. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
I'd be totaly interested if the rev limiter is bumped ....
Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif
Does the 110 box not give you the ability to bump the rev limiter? Is there really that much in the engine above the factory rev limiter?
Joe E 12-12-2003, 12:26 PM From an e-mail I got from Quad, his issues with increasing the rev limiter on '01s is he thinks the fuel map didn't go high enough. That might be wrong/updated since a month or so ago when I heard this from him.
cmadmaxman 12-12-2003, 12:59 PM Yes the 110 will let you bump the rev limiter and set tire size. It is only a problem with some of the 01 trucks. I think when the limiter is taken out it goes up to something like 4500 RPM????
Gptimes2, I run mine at the 90 or race program when not towing. Normaly you won't need it unless you just want to! If you keep it on the floor all the time.......you gona have problems! I knock it down to tow tune 1 or tune 2 when hooked up to the trailer. With your boat you should be able to run tune 2 or three with gauges. If no gauges best to stay with tune 1!
Thanks for the rev limiter info. Mine is an '02 so, I shouldn't have the '01 problem, just curious how much power the engine really makes above the stock rev limiter.
silvermax 12-12-2003, 01:41 PM How do you bump the limiter? I have the 135 tune and didnt see it on the options screen.
DMAX2DAMAX 12-12-2003, 02:21 PM silvermax,
I had the 110 and now the 165 and I was wondering the same thing. I have a call into Quad so I'll post when I get a return call unless someone who knows posts first.
DMax_Doug 12-12-2003, 04:53 PM I've been running the 165 also, but with no ability to bump rev limiter (that I can find, at least). Software version is 1.13. Shifts in all levels right around 3,000-3200rpm.
Camp, I wonder same as you how hard it pulls above 3k. I'm not sure I'd want to go there much, given that it pulls strong up to 3k and hits the next gear right in the middle of the powerband.
Maybe someone who does above 3k rmps can let us know.
Doug
Joe E 12-12-2003, 05:13 PM Response I got from Quad a few weeks ago:
"As long as you request it we can make the 3500 rpm in any tune. Also you will only get the rpm in high gear or if you hold it in a gear."
Sounds like it's optional...
Amric 12-12-2003, 05:18 PM Response I got from Quad a few weeks ago:
"As long as you request it we can make the 3500 rpm in any tune. Also you will only get the rpm in high gear or if you hold it in a gear."
Sounds like it's optional...
I heard something different. I heard it was in ALL tunes 135hp and up. As you already stated, the Allison will still shift at 3200 unless held in gear by the driver.
I wish someone would learn how to reprogram the Allison, so we could raise the shift RPM, and raise the line pressure at WOT.
Quadzilla 12-12-2003, 10:36 PM All tunes up to 135 have the limiter raised to about 3400-3500rpms. The 135 and above tunes are raised to 4400rpms. This is not shift points, this is maximum revs allowed. You must hold the truck in a gear to see the additional revs or drive entirely too fast.
You must hold the truck in a gear to see the additional revs or drive entirely too fast.
Sorry, I got a good laugh out of that. Since I have the 6-speed, the shift points are not relative but, the "drive entirely too fast" ishttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif I usually bounce off the stock speed limiter in top gear at least twice a week on my way home from work leaving Denver. Man am I ready to get home and drive me truckhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gifEdited by: camp
luvthesmellofdiesel 12-17-2003, 10:32 AM I know what you mean with the ZF/6, more than once I have tried to shift into 7th...
Tim
SmokinMax 12-17-2003, 11:34 AM I know the only time ive ever saw mine pull above 3300 was on a dyno ....im not into driving that fast on the street....david dunbar(dyno owner/Operator) told me he couldnt belive how hard the truck was pulling abouve 3000K(my truck was one of the first trucks he'd ever dynoed with quads 215 programming)
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