Does anyone here run the pacific performance chip that is supposed to make 300 horse at the fly wheel for the lb7 trucks. If so how is the power. Is it a good chip to stack with like a duramaimizer or a edge. Has anybody dynoed pacifics chip. Is there a lot of smoke. What kind of rpms can you get out of it.
Just wanted to know if it was werth the money

I run the hot juice with attitude and when set on level 5 and the xcellerator on high setting I billow bloke smoke. Plenty of power. No dyno numbers. I have liked it but others like other products.

Ben

So it stacks good with the edge. is the power smooth or is there bursting

what kind of rpms can you turn

i suggest you do a seach for PPE or xcelerator and see what others think.

Ive Ran The Hot Xcelerator Stacked With Juice Quite A Bit And Didnt Have Any Problems With It. Thier Numbers Are Based On Fwhp And Not Rwhp. Its Basically The Same Tuner As The Bullydog Powerpup. Lots Of People Say They Have Had Bad Dealings With Ppe But All I Have Had Have Been First Class. One Thing You Can Damn Sure Say About Ppe Is That They Arent Here On These Boards Bashing Other Vendors Like Some Bash Them. Go Figure ;)

If your interested in one i have one brand new, never used as of the around the first of the year. I didn't know i could get my old xcellerator upgraded. PM me with if your interested, taking offers...

They don't have time to bash, they have got stereos to install):h Ive Ran The Hot Xcelerator Stacked With Juice Quite A Bit And Didnt Have Any Problems With It. Thier Numbers Are Based On Fwhp And Not Rwhp. Its Basically The Same Tuner As The Bullydog Powerpup. Lots Of People Say They Have Had Bad Dealings With Ppe But All I Have Had Have Been First Class. One Thing You Can Damn Sure Say About Ppe Is That They Arent Here On These Boards Bashing Other Vendors Like Some Bash Them. Go Figure ;)

Ive Ran The Hot Xcelerator Stacked With Juice Quite A Bit And Didnt Have Any Problems With It. Thier Numbers Are Based On Fwhp And Not Rwhp. Its Basically The Same Tuner As The Bullydog Powerpup. Lots Of People Say They Have Had Bad Dealings With Ppe But All I Have Had Have Been First Class. One Thing You Can Damn Sure Say About Ppe Is That They Arent Here On These Boards Bashing Other Vendors Like Some Bash Them. Go Figure ;)come on nut tell the whole story ;)

I have been running the reg. Xecelerator for almost a year. Have had no problems with the unit. Anytime I have called PPE with a question they have been more than willing to help. I have put about 17k with the tuner set to race extreme 98% of the time. On level four you will get smoke, as boost comes on you will only see a faint haze at 28 psi. I actually get over 23 mpg with the tuner. As far as dyno numbers, it made 395/738 while starving for fuel. Had a fuel line going bad, but that is with the standard tuner. I will have it re-dynoed in a couple months, but will guess it will go 420's and upper 700's for torque. I will be installing a SBC this week to help hook it up to the ground.:lol:

Friend of mine has the Xcelerator on his LB7 dually. He thinks it is the greatest. He called pacific performance just today about the new Hot Xcelerator and they said they could reprogram his regular one to the hot version for $200.00

Will It Play Mp3's Then?

I know most on this site don't care for the Xcellerator, but so far I have had good results from it. I did have a problem with it messing up when I was changing programs, but I sent it back in and they are fixing it, and also installing the hot program. On April 16th a local shop in my town is having a dyno day, so I plan on testing the hot Xcellerator program to see if it lives up to what they say it will do (and additional 240hp at the wheels), and then I will see how well it stacks with my tst.

Will It Play Mp3's Then?
:iamwithst ):h ):h

I know most on this site don't care for the Xcellerator, but so far I have had good results from it. I did have a problem with it messing up when I was changing programs, but I sent it back in and they are fixing it, and also installing the hot program. On April 16th a local shop in my town is having a dyno day, so I plan on testing the hot Xcellerator program to see if it lives up to what they say it will do (and additional 240hp at the wheels), and then I will see how well it stacks with my tst. Yeah i would appriciate it if you would keep me posted when you dyno that thing. Looking forward to hearing your gains at the wheels and how well it stacks.

PPE has been very good to me. They are a shop making power :ro) and I think people are just mad now cause their stuff ain't putting out what PPE is.:exactly:
I just don't see why people knock them down. I've been very happy with everything that I have purchased from them and they stand behind their product.):h Now that you come back to their shop with an attitude, all pissed off:mad: and don't get what you want is a different story. All I know is it will make you eat my smoke, gasp for air and not let you see where the finish line is at till the race is over.

PPE has been very good to me. They are a shop making power :ro) and I think people are just mad now cause their stuff ain't putting out what PPE is.:exactly:
I just don't see why people knock them down. I've been very happy with everything that I have purchased from them and they stand behind their product.):h Now that you come back to their shop with an attitude, all pissed off:mad: and don't get what you want is a different story. All I know is it will make you eat my smoke, gasp for air and not let you see where the finish line is at till the race is over.


Oh so that's what has your ECM locked up! :D

has anyone dynoed the new 330 horse to see what it makes at the wheels.

PPE has been good to me. IM running their LLY stuff with great results. IM am very happy with the way my truck has run with there products. They have a great LLY stack and i doubt that it will be possable to beat it. They are ahead of the game. I have been using PPE products on my LLY products for a while. And i have seen my hp numbers higher then the "posted highs for lly" PPE is Top notch!:ro)

Oh so that's what has your ECM locked up! :Dnope trying to make a change on the ecm to install the new hot xcelerator and I can't even put the old one on

It's the most powerful tune out for the LLY's. And it stacks.

I suggest you talk to several members here who have had their credit cards hung out to dry by PPE. a few guys come to mind here. One of them is local to me and all read/post here. he had an xcelerator and dmaximizer for his LB7. was promised 100% satisfaction or money back. needless to say we hit the dyno (that is where i met him) and it didn't run as promised. i made 1 pass with my old extreme tune and he wasn't happy. needless to say he called them the next day asking for a refund and they said sorry! he had it updated a couple times but it never would do what they said. had they stood behind their product like i've seen other mfg's do then i would have a higher opinion of them.

I've met Joe (i think that's his name) and he has always been a nice fellow. he even gave me a coat hanger once :) but this isn't about being nice, its about being professional and standing behind your products.

as for disliking them due to the power they are making, i'll run my TTS extreme agaist that any day. i've even got my stock ecm so we can keep it fair- same truck. if it beats the extreme i'll buy it.


I just don't see why people knock them down. I've been very happy with everything that I have purchased from them and they stand behind their product.):h Now that you come back to their shop with an attitude, all pissed off:mad: and don't get what you want is a different story. All I know is it will make you eat my smoke, gasp for air and not let you see where the finish line is at till the race is over.

Always admired a man who put his money where his mouth is! I knew I liked you Nick, now I know why!

MAYBE JOE WILL CHIME IN AND RUN DOWN SOMEONE ELSE'S PRODUCT HERE IN A BIT. THAT SURE SEEMS TO GAIN RESPECT :rolleyes:

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/funnypost.gif why is it that you seem to be the only one who cant see the forest thru the trees

I go PPe in the morning.:D

I go PPe in the morning.:D




):h

Come on peanut. Get real. if the people i'm referencing want to speak up that's their choice. I haven't lied. actually all of this has been posted by them already. all one needs to do is search. I said i think Joe is a nice guy. BUT, if i knew someone was interested in a product i would share my experiences with them so they could make an informed decision. If you were the perspective customer wouldn't you like to know AHEAD of time instead of after the fact? i know you like your PPE and that's great! i'm happy you are satisfied.

If someone asked me about edge i would recommend it! as far as plug and play i think its one of the best if not the best. nice features, good price, etc. I know people who have had problems with edge boxes and edge has even refunded money for people when the product didn't work as advertised. that's good customer service IMHO.

I run the TTS because on my truck, it makes the most power of anything i've tried. i also prefer the lower tunes over the edge for drivability. But i guess i'm picky.

I don't own any PPE or edge products. i post what i do because i want people to be able to make their own informed decisions. maybe the next person will get something in writing just in case it doesn't perform as advertised. if it does- GREAT! but if it doesn't that's extra protection for the consumer.

As i said, they've never done anything bad to me but aren't we all here to help eachother out and share information, be it good or bad?
MAYBE JOE WILL CHIME IN AND RUN DOWN SOMEONE ELSE'S PRODUCT HERE IN A BIT. THAT SURE SEEMS TO GAIN RESPECT :rolleyes:

what gets me is the crap that people talk even though their truck is slower than molasses and barely have anything on their truck. And they still act like they know their $hit when they just spent $200-$400 and honestly believe their truck is fast.

i'll run my TTS extreme agaist that any day. i've even got my stock ecm so we can keep it fair- same truck. if it beats the extreme i'll buy it.
You name it and bring some money preferably a 5 digit wage and its on.

WOW! Are you going to Palmdale this weekend? I think there will be some "Extreme" powered trucks there.

You name it and bring some money preferably a 5 digit wage and its on.

I sure am, unfortunately I can't race my truck unless I find some 33's for the truck

WOW! Are you going to Palmdale this weekend? I think there will be some "Extreme" powered trucks there.SO whats the word? i dont think i can wait, some info has to leak out. i want to know lol

Palmdale Saturday. Laker Girls, diesel fumes, and the some pretty solid running pickups will be there.

Only a wussie would miss it! :D

One of the Dodge's might go into the 11's.

Will a Duramax?

Not me!

Palmdale Saturday. Laker Girls, diesel fumes, and the some pretty solid running pickups will be there.

Only a wussie would miss it! :D
:funnypost ):h

One of the Dodge's might go into the 11's.

Will a Duramax?

Not me!

now that a silly question but of course!!!!

WOW! Are you going to Palmdale this weekend? I think there will be some "Extreme" powered trucks there.
what shop are you with?

One of the Dodge's might go into the 11's.

Will a Duramax?

Not me!
I wish i could do 11s, but im cursed with an lly!!:damnit1:

what shop are you with?Check out my sig.

You would honestly want to lose 10 grand? you know i'd be half tempted to do it but i would feel bad taking that much from someone.

are you talking about a race at the track? my truck against yours? or dyno both on my truck? i've got access to a mustang load cell 5 minutes from my house. not to mention sac raceway 1/4 mi. at sea level.

if you're serious and not full of it, we might be able to arrange something. sounds like a fun time!

I have yet to see a PPE that would run with my extreme. as i said, if it beats it I'll buy it... happily!


You name it and bring some money preferably a 5 digit wage and its on.

I sure am, unfortunately I can't race my truck unless I find some 33's for the truck
Why can't you run it the way it is??

DSLBeast,

Bring your **** my friend to LACR on Saturday, LB7's on #2 only.

Forget your 5 digit wage that's just a way of trying to bluff your way out of some smack talk. :D

You can use my BFG285s, I'll run my stock POS wheels and tires.


I'll be driving the 7500lb blue truck with the Snug Top Shell. :eek:

You should beat me by what about .5 seconds? ):h

Let's Lock it and Rock it!

DSLBeast - On second thought - I'll take your bet. i'll even offer to lower it to $1,000 just to make it more reasonable if you wish. Here are the terms- my truck vs. yours. #2 only. the money must be given to a trusted third party ahead of time. i doubt either of us wants to make a drive just to have the other person back out at the last minute. You game?

what gets me is the crap that people talk even though their truck is slower than molasses and barely have anything on their truck. And they still act like they know their $hit when they just spent $200-$400 and honestly believe their truck is fast.I know enough to tuck my tail and say the TTS extream is king right now for the lb7. By the way you don't have to have alot to know alot. dave

Ya boy!!

And my daddy can beat up your daddy! Censored

This coming from someone with a 12" lift? -:t
You name it and bring some money preferably a 5 digit wage and its on.

Let me guess, DSLBeast has another screen name (fannypack) and and also owns 2 or more SRT-10's. Smack talk is easy, backing up on the track a little more difficult!!!

:funnypost

If he is serious 10k would definatly cover my expenses to drive to CA. Want to throw another truck into the mix? :D

10k would easily cover the cost of putting smaller treads on your ride. I'm not seeing a reason for you to try to back out.

I will be there Sat. wether it's at Palmdale or Sacramento. I would be happy to be the 3rd party holding the wager. ( I think I can be trusted to be honest). I might even find the time to install a fuel pump and rip off a piece myself. :eek:

Let me guess, DSLBeast has another screen name (fannypack) and and also owns 2 or more SRT-10's. Smack talk is easy, backing up on the track a little more difficult!!!
Nope, its not me on this one..

what gets me is the crap that people talk even though their truck is slower than molasses and barely have anything on their truck. And they still act like they know their $hit when they just spent $200-$400 and honestly believe their truck is fast.


i hope your not talking about me again?

i hope your not talking about me again? He better not be. If he messes with one of the A(ACLU) then he messes with all of us!:badidea:

I can be the warm up race. If he can beat my 8400lb Extremed dually then he is worthy of the faster extremed trucks. He will fur sure need smaller tires or he won't even make it passed me. :D On a faster note. We can race program/nos/pane cause I have all three two. We can see how the ppe does with the nos and pane against the extreme.:p: And I will be there on saturday to lay some down on the track.

John

You name it and bring some money preferably a 5 digit wage and its on.DSLBeast,

In all fairness, I can't stand by and let Nick take you're money like that. He'd turn around and use it to buy a big turbo then I'd never be able to beat him again.

If you want a no-cost reality check, I'd be glad to oblige you. I'll be at LACR on Saturday in the burgandy truck.

Doug

Doug,

your a gentleman and a scholar!

Doug,

Your politeness is only exceeded by your charm! :D

Shhhhhhh,

Be vary vary qwiet, wure hunting Diesel Beasts.......eh eh eh eh................

:lol:

Lol!!!!!!

good one Guy!

Ahh now see you big extreme bullies scared him off!! Guess he is afraid after he did some research!! :stirthepo

Somehow, I don't think we'll be seeing DSLBeast in this thread again...


































Alright, so I'm trollin' a little, my bad.):h

You would honestly want to lose 10 grand? you know i'd be half tempted to do it but i would feel bad taking that much from someone.

are you talking about a race at the track? my truck against yours? or dyno both on my truck? i've got access to a mustang load cell 5 minutes from my house. not to mention sac raceway 1/4 mi. at sea level.

if you're serious and not full of it, we might be able to arrange something. sounds like a fun time!

I have yet to see a PPE that would run with my extreme. as i said, if it beats it I'll buy it... happily!
I'm a gambler and love taking risks. You bring the fastest toy you got and I will bring something comparible and we can do this.

My my how quick it went from racing Duramaxes (Extreme against PPE) to "fastest toys." Guess someone realized he wasn't going to win this one (argument or race) and he bit off more than he could chew.

I was hoping to make a little money on the race too (afterall, I've got to buy another transmission)... :mad:

Ooooya It's On.

Yep, it's on. I will bring my son's TONKA TRUCK and see if he will let me borrow his fastest HOT WHEEL and we can get it on.:driver: What is everyone else got for their "FASTEST" runner ??????? I already have dibs on the hot wheel jet car so the rest of you are crap out of luck.:D

John

Fight Fight Fight!

I'm bringing my balsa wood plane with the rubberband.):h

http://dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gifmy sig .40 will beat the tonka

I have a pink barbie jeep with flames. dave

manny has a volvo with rainbow stickers, if you win u get to crush it:evillol:

I love the rainbow fish stickers. dave

i get the oscar mayer hotdog truck hot wheel http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

nice backing out.. that's ok, it wasn't like i didn't expect it.:lol:

so what if i show up with a top fuel dragster? i have a friend with one :grd: hell it might cost me 10 grand to run it but what the heck!

My my how quick it went from racing Duramaxes (Extreme against PPE) to "fastest toys." Guess someone realized he wasn't going to win this one (argument or race) and he bit off more than he could chew.

I was hoping to make a little money on the race too (afterall, I've got to buy another transmission)... :mad:
hey the owner stated "access to a mustang load cell 5 minutes from my house" so he was the one that wanted to bring "other toys". All you have to do is read then comment

i get the oscar mayer hotdog truck hot wheel http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

nice backing out.. that's ok, it wasn't like i didn't expect it.:lol:

so what if i show up with a top fuel dragster? i have a friend with one :grd: hell it might cost me 10 grand to run it but what the heck!
I guess since you said you had access to a "mustang cell" the dragster was included in there. You swear that TTS is the fastest thing for a duramax but at least my programming came from a very nice professional shop and not from a back yard garage. I know I won't have to knock on a house door to see if any one is home for warranty work. But hell since the owner of TTS is living at home with mommy and daddy and has such a low overhead, I'm sure he should be able to afford small bets like that just in case you need a little extra money in running the dragster.
:stirthepo :joke:

:eek: :eek: :eek: ):h :funnypost

Just to clarify you dolt, Mustang load cell is a dyno. He was offering to either run you on the dyno or on the track.

With your ECM lockout problems, are you sure exactly what your "professional shop" (stereo) installed???

I've been to both shops, and for engine or tranny work would much prefer TTS, who also has just a few years experience on your guy. I suggest that before you open your mouth to parrot what you have hear, you validate the truth of their statements.

DSLBeast,

Last time I was at TTS, it was in a rather large industrial building, surrounded by many other large industrial buildings in Compton. Right off the 91 Freeway at Central (near Dominguez Hills). Certainly not a garage shop operation. And the warranty service was way better than I could have hoped for. Steve Cole (owner of TTS) went way beyond what was required to try and resolve an issue my truck had. So, I am not sure where you are coming from with the above comments.

Regards,
Alan

I guess since you said you had access to a "mustang cell" the dragster was included in there. You swear that TTS is the fastest thing for a duramax but at least my programming came from a very nice professional shop and not from a back yard garage. I know I won't have to knock on a house door to see if any one is home for warranty work. But hell since the owner of TTS is living at home with mommy and daddy and has such a low overhead, I'm sure he should be able to afford small bets like that just in case you need a little extra money in running the dragster.
:stirthepo :joke:

Is SNOWMAN back :wtf1:


Atleast he moved up from the ol' scout ):h

I guess since you said you had access to a "mustang cell" the dragster was included in there. You swear that TTS is the fastest thing for a duramax but at least my programming came from a very nice professional shop and not from a back yard garage. I know I won't have to knock on a house door to see if any one is home for warranty work. But hell since the owner of TTS is living at home with mommy and daddy and has such a low overhead, I'm sure he should be able to afford small bets like that just in case you need a little extra money in running the dragster.
:stirthepo :joke:
hey the owner stated "access to a mustang load cell 5 minutes from my house" so he was the one that wanted to bring "other toys". All you have to do is read then comment:funnypost :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

OMG! i duno were to start! That is seriously some of the funniest sh!t I have read here in a long time! I am seriously laughing out loud.

Friendly advice. Sit back, listen, learn a bit, and you will recive a much better reception.

hey the owner stated "access to a mustang load cell 5 minutes from my house" so he was the one that wanted to bring "other toys". All you have to do is read then comment
):h

I can't help but laugh at this response. Nick, you had easy money. The $500 you were going to take from me would have seemed impossible against this one. :D

Ask Joe who used to program that stuff for him ;)

Ask Joe who used to program that stuff for him
Bet it was some guy living with his momy and daddy working outa the garage):h

what gets me is the crap that people talk even though their truck is slower than molasses and barely have anything on their truck. And they still act like they know their $hit when they just spent $200-$400 and honestly believe their truck is fast.I know what a mustang load cell is. DO you?Let me tell you it's so fast it'll blow your speakers off.):h

Bet it was some guy living with his momy and daddy working outa the garage):hWhoa buddy, there's way to much gambling going on in this thread. A bunch of easy money out of you guys. :D

As a matter of fact, can I bring a superflow to this race? I hear they're quicker than them mustangs. ):h

Whoa buddy, there's way to much gambling going on in this thread. A bunch of easy money out of you guys. :D

As a matter of fact, can I bring a superflow to this race? I hear they're quicker than them mustangs. ):h
Nah, you guys don't stand a chance against the good ole jet!:eek: :D

I got an old school engine dyno you can hang off the back of. We could set it up with a small block 302 Ford in a hurry. I could weld a chair on the back.



I bet my engine stand dyno could kick the chit out of your supeflo rollers in the 1/4 mile.

Holly crap we just took dyno racing to a new level. :ro)



:lol:

Nah, you guys don't stand a chance against the good ole jet!:eek: :D
Bring the jet, I'll get Guy to pilot my superflow as he's got more experience than me... Let's :grd:

Hopefully the rain clears up.

Tomorrow at High Noon. Main Street is LACR. Bring your biggest gun. This ain't no knife-fight.

Get ready to RUMMMMBBBLLLEEEEE!!!! :D

Yow! this here is some funny chit, I don't care where you're from! As a non-thrasher, I read Power and Performance more out of curiosity and respect for the gang pushing the limits. This fella really stepped in it with big claims and little knowledge. Sad thing is that he who barks the loudest will definitely not have any Kibbles to back up the bet! I guess he better stay under the porch and let the big dogs run free!

I have a fifth wheel hitch. I can ask bernie if he will let me pull the portable mustang down the track when I run. With the extreme, I might even clear 25 seconds flat. :cool:

In all fairness Diesel Beast were a great bunch of guys. As I'm sure you have noticed, there is not a lack of humor in most of us. And all of us started at some point with no knowledge of diesels at all. I hope we havent scared you off from the track, we like to see everyone we can get to the track to come out and support the trucks and industry. As for speed, most of us just like to hang out with other deisel nuts and have a few runs and laughs. I hope to see you out at the track.

John

I guess since you said you had access to a "mustang cell" the dragster was included in there. You swear that TTS is the fastest thing for a duramax but at least my programming came from a very nice professional shop and not from a back yard garage. I know I won't have to knock on a house door to see if any one is home for warranty work. But hell since the owner of TTS is living at home with mommy and daddy and has such a low overhead, I'm sure he should be able to afford small bets like that just in case you need a little extra money in running the dragster.
:stirthepo :joke:
Does the owner of TTS still live with his Mom?

who cares? thats his business..... keep us posted as to who is the badest at the track, that is what I think we all care about.....:grd:

I have a fifth wheel hitch. I can ask bernie if he will let me pull the portable mustang down the track when I run. With the extreme, I might even clear 25 seconds flat. :cool:

In all fairness Diesel Beast were a great bunch of guys. As I'm sure you have noticed, there is not a lack of humor in most of us. And all of us started at some point with no knowledge of diesels at all. I hope we havent scared you off from the track, we like to see everyone we can get to the track to come out and support the trucks and industry. As for speed, most of us just like to hang out with other deisel nuts and have a few runs and laughs. I hope to see you out at the track.

John
Hey dude its all good... it is all about talking some $hit and getting people feathers all ruffled. Well I guess I'll back off since I stirred enough $hit around here... It's all good laughs and making some fun. I'll be there at LACR and you shall all have the priviledge of getting to know me. ):h

Just to clarify you dolt, Mustang load cell is a dyno. He was offering to either run you on the dyno or on the track.

With your ECM lockout problems, are you sure exactly what your "professional shop" (stereo) installed???

I've been to both shops, and for engine or tranny work would much prefer TTS, who also has just a few years experience on your guy. I suggest that before you open your mouth to parrot what you have hear, you validate the truth of their statements.Look here you ding :smashfrea if you knew how to read, comprehend what you have read and perhaps spell i.e (heard instead of hear), I said the programmer wasn't in (stock ecm) due to the pcm not wanting to communicate with a tech 2, however, I just got it fixed today and it's working just fine now:driver:
thanks to my "professional shop"!:ro)

:funnypost :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :laugh_exp :laugh_exp :laugh_exp


This place is classic!!!!

Your professional shop may have fixed the problem, but not without the help and advice of a true professional, (socaldieseltech)....

If you do not know Steve and/or have not been to his shop, I would suggest you do not talk about it as if you have.

As far as living with parents and working out of a garage, it seems to me that another Steve (Jobs) was very successful doing that (Apple Computer). I'm sure there are others that fit these start-up qualifications.

How about a Losi LST nitro monster truck? 0-44 in about 5 seconds.

Yep, it's on. I will bring my son's TONKA TRUCK and see if he will let me borrow his fastest HOT WHEEL and we can get it on.:driver: What is everyone else got for their "FASTEST" runner ??????? I already have dibs on the hot wheel jet car so the rest of you are crap out of luck.:D

John

Your professional shop may have fixed the problem, but not without the help and advice of a true professional, (socaldieseltech)....

If you do not know Steve and/or have not been to his shop, I would suggest you do not talk about it as if you have.

As far as living with parents and working out of a garage, it seems to me that another Steve (Jobs) was very successful doing that (Apple Computer). I'm sure there are others that fit these start-up qualifications.
ok mr know it all you win...socaldieseltech indeed offered and did post a tech bulletin and I never said anything bad about Clyde but I suggest you practice what you preach. I'll elaborate: I was supposed to see him today (socaldieseltech) but I took the truck to the dealership and they found the powertrain module was bad and warrantied it. So I guess you are right the dealership is a true professional shop. However, Joe did mention that it was bad but since the truck is so modified they could easily lean on the modifications. So he sent me in the right direction. You are such a hater when it comes to PPE. I just can't wait till tomorrow!!!!!

why do people like to argue? PPE is simply the best.

I subscribed to this thread just for the smack talk, and to get the results. I think someone is going to get there a$$ stomped!!!!!!!!):h ):h ):h ):h ):h

will somebody please kick this guys ass at the strip, maybe he'll learn to shutup!!!!!!

:iamwithst :lol:

i am going sat. plan on being the slowest, but looking foward to seeing you fast guys beat each other up.

another thing, how do you talk trash about how fast your truck is when it has a 12" lift & 37s? also with all that stereo stuff in it, whats that stuff weigh.

Can you really hear yourself going that fast. dave

another thing, how do you talk trash about how fast your truck is when it has a 12" lift & 37s? also with all that stereo stuff in it, whats that stuff weigh. Add in his mouth and you have two hundred more pounds.:p:

dont forget all the hot air & that growing nose:lying:

All I want to know is if the "LOSER" is buying dinner after the beat down occurs..........:rolleyes:

You guys hungry...........I think PPE is buying............:eek:
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:funnypost

All I want to know is if the "LOSER" is buying dinner after the beat down occurs..........:rolleyes: :eek: That reminds me I still owe Mr. FuseGrips tm dinner

CHECK OUT HIS SIG HE HAS BEEN TO PPE

va-d901,Alpine DVD Nav,Alpine XM tuner,Alpine IPOD,Kicker 800.4 for Cerwin-Vega comp. mids and highs, Orion 275G4 running at 1 ohm 4 Kicker L7 8" solo baric subs, front and rear corner strobes,wig-wags in the headlights


DOES YOUR TUNER PLAY MP3'S?

ok mr know it all you win...socaldieseltech indeed offered and did post a tech bulletin and I never said anything bad about Clyde but I suggest you practice what you preach. I'll elaborate: I was supposed to see him today (socaldieseltech) but I took the truck to the dealership and they found the powertrain module was bad and warrantied it. So I guess you are right the dealership is a true professional shop. However, Joe did mention that it was bad but since the truck is so modified they could easily lean on the modifications. So he sent me in the right direction. You are such a hater when it comes to PPE. I just can't wait till tomorrow!!!!!
All I ask is that you be gentle with me, all I have is an LLY with a stock stereo

All I ask is that you be gentle with me, all I have is an LLY with a stock stereo
Frank
I have XM which is good for a tenth; might even renew Onstar for another.):h

Meeee Meeeee Meeeee, trying to find the right key. Xtreme guys feel free to sing along!

Ohhhhhhhhhhh........

Chorus:

A hunting we will go...

A hunting we will go...

Hi Ho the merry O...

A hunting we will go...



The "Beast" is talking smack

The "Beast" is talking smack

Xtreme's will all get together and beat him at the track.

Chorus:


He loves his P P E

He loves his P P E

How dissappointing his day at the track will be. :eek:



Hey Beast do I need to bring my stock wheels and tires so you can use my 285s?

Or are you just talking smack about your 12" and really you got about 2".:eek:

My guess is your bringing somebody elses light weight truck with a PPE tune + propane/nitrous/water meth to try and claim victory.

:blahblah:

All I ask is that you be gentle with me, all I have is an LLY with a stock stereo
All I have is an LLY with a cd player;) , and some subs, Weight = traction
So I'm running PPE stuff You guys say that like its a bad thing:blahblah: , we'll see what this PPE powered truck can do tomarrow! :boxing: :Wedgie: :nutkick:

All I have is an LLY with a cd player;) , and some subs, Weight = traction
So I'm running PPE stuff You guys say that like its a bad thing:blahblah: , we'll see what this PPE powered truck can do tomarrow! :boxing: :Wedgie: :nutkick:
PPE seems to be making some good power with the LLY and LB7. So is the Quad and the BullyDog and the VanAken.

The trouble starts when somebody wants to present the LB7 tune as the end all be all tune because told them it was. Yet they have absolutely no comparison data to support this claim. Yet most Xtreme owners have left a PPE, Quad, Bullydog tune to upgrade to the Xtreme. So they have done the comparison and know the difference between fact and hype. :driver:

PPE seems to be making some good power with the LLY and LB7. So is the Quad and the BullyDog and the VanAken.

The trouble starts when somebody wants to present the LB7 tune as the end all be all tune because told them it was. Yet they have absolutely no comparison data to support this claim. Yet most Xtreme owners have left a PPE, Quad, Bullydog tune to upgrade to the Xtreme. So they have done the comparison and know the difference between fact and hype. :driver:
Not just that, there are my people who just like to talk smack, and attack PPE. I guess it dont matter..

"stupid people dont matter" Peg- Married With children

Hmm I might just have to drag the kids to track and take some video:D Since I have no dog in this hunt... Well until the bracket racing starts ):h

Well after just getting back into town reading the last 15 posts in this thread really made me laugh!


guy yours topped the cake.. almost..

I think the part about steve living with mommy was the funniest part:anitoof:

Meeee Meeeee Meeeee, trying to find the right key. Xtreme guys feel free to sing along!

Ohhhhhhhhhhh........

Chorus:

A hunting we will go...

A hunting we will go...

Hi Ho the merry O...

A hunting we will go...



The "Beast" is talking smack

The "Beast" is talking smack

Xtreme's will all get together and beat him at the track.

Chorus:


He loves his P P E

He loves his P P E

How dissappointing his day at the track will be. :eek:



Hey Beast do I need to bring my stock wheels and tires so you can use my 285s?

Or are you just talking smack about your 12" and really you got about 2".:eek:

My guess is your bringing somebody elses light weight truck with a PPE tune + propane/nitrous/water meth to try and claim victory.

:blahblah:

PPE seems to be making some good power with the LLY and LB7. So is the Quad and the BullyDog and the VanAken.

The trouble starts when somebody wants to present the LB7 tune as the end all be all tune because told them it was. Yet they have absolutely no comparison data to support this claim. Yet most Xtreme owners have left a PPE, Quad, Bullydog tune to upgrade to the Xtreme. So they have done the comparison and know the difference between fact and hype. :driver:

Clarification. For the LLY, the Quad is down 30rwhp. The VA is down 50rwhp. The Bullydog? If I can get one to work right, I'll find out. SOTP indicates ~ Predator power.

There are two "secret" LLY tunes that show good promise. The TTS and the Hot Juice. Neither are available to racers, as they are experimental.

PS - Fear the LLY. They are only 1 year old, but they are teething with a vengence. Give them a few more months, and stock for stock, you're going to find your LB7's to be lacking.

Not just that, there are my people who just like to talk smack, and attack PPE. I guess it dont matter..

"stupid people dont matter" Peg- Married With children
04.5 LLy reg cab,
8.11@ 88.8 on the bottle- 1/4 ???
12.856@ 107.96on the Bottle-1.914 60' ft w/8.341/8
474.9 HP 871.7 Torque #2
581.2 hp 1298.5 on bottlehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif
315's tires on stock rim, PPE LLY Extreme Tune, Enforcer, custom Nitrous system,PPE Stage IV Ally, AFE Stage 2 intake, 5" exhaust W/ rear facing 6" tip, FASS Fuel, line lock!
When I grow up I want to be an LB7! <!-- / sig -->

The bashing usually follows the bogus marketing/performance claims of PPE and their customers. They have a good tune, just not the best tune for LB7.
PPe's LLY tune is sitting at the top right now from what I have read. I have no personal experience to base this on so I have to defer to those who do. You and McRat seem to be very happy with the driveability and performance of that tune.

Perhaps TTS will release some more LLY tunes in the future. that is...if his Mommy let's him.):h


Ask yourself this question: Why does PPE advertise in Flywheel HP rather than RWHP like everyone else? A little misleading don't you think? Aimed at pumping up their numbers by any chance?

Do they have an engine dyno to quantify this or is it some more marketing hype? :help2:

I see "PPE Extreme" in your sig.
Did they really call their newest LLY tune the "Extreme"? Again a little misleading don't you think? ):h

I agree with Peg's quote completely. :D

Heres' one from Jim Carey I'm fond of.

"The truth shall set you free"

You can call a 150 rwhp tune a 300, or you can call a 90rwhp tune a 65. Doesn't change the ET's.

Automotive products are normally rated at the crank. Diesels are different. Many are rated at the tires. They are the only modifications that commonly exceed advertised HP.

As of today, the quickest Dmax in our area is an LLY that we know of. To make matters worse, it is running a PPE tune. Surely you LB7 owners will regain the crown tomorrow. You have the parts and tuning, should be a cake walk.

As of today, the quickest Dmax in our area is an LLY that we know of. To make matters worse, it is running a PPE tune. Surely you LB7 owners will regain the crown tomorrow. You have the parts and tuning, should be a cake walk.
LLY on #2 or including drugs.
Who is it and what are the times?
In other words.....who/what is the target?

Go Get 'em!

:snipersmi :weld:

Doug- Tomorrow you'd better open that bumpy envelope i sent you and put it to good use!

will somebody please kick this guys ass at the strip, maybe he'll learn to shutup!!!!!!
Just using my first constitutional right buddy...And if you were any bit of a man you would kick my ass and not ask for help but its all good I understand

another thing, how do you talk trash about how fast your truck is when it has a 12" lift & 37s? also with all that stereo stuff in it, whats that stuff weigh.
Even if the truck weighs 10,000#'s its still fast enough make you part of my trash that gets left behind mister

Add in his mouth and you have two hundred more pounds.:p:
You know whats funny is that with all that weight I'll still leave ya behind all because of a little name PPE

All I want to know is if the "LOSER" is buying dinner after the beat down occurs..........:rolleyes:

You guys hungry...........I think PPE is buying............:eek:
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TTS better bring some money

light weight[/color] truck with a PPE tune + propane/nitrous/water meth to try and claim victory.

:blahblah:
I guess your tonsils will soon find out ):h

Don't worry about what I am bringing for you shall soon find out

I e-mailed one of our bigger power tuner shops the other day and this was the very diapointing reply I got. "You will never see the big power tunes on your LLY like on your LB7, mainley because of smaller injectors and a different turbo.....Really ? So glad I have an LLY on the way ! Maybe my buddie with my old LB7 will trade me for the new one ?

Just using my first constitutional right buddy...And if you were any bit of a man you would kick my ass and not ask for help but its all good I understand:blahblah:

I would take pleasure in kicking your a$$, I'm not asking for help.

I e-mailed one of our bigger power tuner shops the other day and this was the very diapointing reply I got. "You will never see the big power tunes on your LLY like on your LB7, mainley because of smaller injectors and a different turbo.....Really ? So glad I have an LLY on the way ! Maybe my buddie with my old LB7 will trade me for the new one ?
Actually its the injection pump its not as strong as the LB7, thats what is holding us back.

You can call a 150 rwhp tune a 300, or you can call a 90rwhp tune a 65. Doesn't change the ET's.

Automotive products are normally rated at the crank. Diesels are different. Many are rated at the tires. They are the only modifications that commonly exceed advertised HP.

As of today, the quickest Dmax in our area is an LLY that we know of. To make matters worse, it is running a PPE tune. Surely you LB7 owners will regain the crown tomorrow. You have the parts and tuning, should be a cake walk.
IM not Scared :boxing:

The bashing usually follows the bogus marketing/performance claims of PPE and their customers. They have a good tune, just not the best tune for LB7.
PPe's LLY tune is sitting at the top right now from what I have read. I have no personal experience to base this on so I have to defer to those who do. You and McRat seem to be very happy with the driveability and performance of that tune.

Perhaps TTS will release some more LLY tunes in the future. that is...if his Mommy let's him.):h


Ask yourself this question: Why does PPE advertise in Flywheel HP rather than RWHP like everyone else? A little misleading don't you think? Aimed at pumping up their numbers by any chance?

Do they have an engine dyno to quantify this or is it some more marketing hype? :help2:

I see "PPE Extreme" in your sig.
Did they really call their newest LLY tune the "Extreme"? Again a little misleading don't you think? ):h

I agree with Peg's quote completely. :D

Heres' one from Jim Carey I'm fond of.

"The truth shall set you free"
Well its the Xcelerator. but in its option you have tune 1 tune 2 tune 3 and extreme tune. We are the ones calling it the extreme tune not them. thats my bad i should change that, i dont want to mislead people):h

PS - Fear the LLY. They are only 1 year old, but they are teething with a vengence. Give them a few more months, and stock for stock, you're going to find your LB7's to be lacking.

We will see!
:rolleyes: You need to remember that the programmers didn't have a base line of 0 to start with on the LLY as they did with the LB7. Also, No one got on board with the Duramax because of the GM disasters up until the Duramax. So you are a little off when thinking that the LLY is so far behind the LB7. I am sure there isn't a whole lot different between the two engines. It`s not like comparing a Duramax to a Cummins when it comes to programming. Like it was between the 6.5 and the Duramax.

I seam to have read that the LB7 programming hasn't hit a wall yet, so you can expect the LB7 to be well over 500 rwhp before it`s all said an done. (This is with one power addon and all stock parts, without drugs.

I would also like to correct you on your statement about how long the LLY has been out. It is not one year as you seem to want us to believe. It is 1 1/2 years, and programmers jumped on board before the engines were on the street, unlike the LB7. Do you remember that the LLY is a mid year 2004, and now the 2005 model year is complete. And another thing to remember, in 2001, and 2002 GM didn't build as many Duramax equipped trucks as they do now. So number wise, the two aren't that far off. (The LLY was on the streets in Dec. 2003 as a mid year 2004.) I would thing that by next year this time, there will be more LLY`s on the street then there are LB7`s.

Maybe the LLY will catch or pass the LB7, only time will tell, not your wishing for it to happen :exactly:

Your professional shop may have fixed the problem,
If you do not know Steve and/or have not been to his shop, I would suggest you do not talk about it as if you have.

As far as living with parents and working out of a garage, it seems to me that another Steve (Jobs) was very successful doing that (Apple Computer). I'm sure there are others that fit these start-up qualifications.

OC DMAX
Last time I was at TTS, it was in a rather large industrial building, surrounded by many other large industrial buildings in Compton. Right off the 91 Freeway at Central (near Dominguez Hills). Certainly not a garage shop operation. And the warranty service was way better than I could have hoped for. Steve Cole (owner of TTS) went way beyond what was required to try and resolve an issue my truck had.
I have been to both shops and checked out TTS and let me tell you. I have never seen so much crap inside a "professional shop". The "office" has got paperwork all over the place and such filth. I mean the place is a rat packs heaven -:t and there is barely enough room to get by and move around. Now at least with PPE he is running a full blown operation, in two different sides of "his" building.):h I believe TTS is a 3-4 man operation where PPE is at least 15 man operation. Hmmm someone at PPE is doing something right. I must also say that how can you test a vehicle with a retro style dyno from the 50's dam near that only can handle per say 450-500 hp? At least at PPE, Joe's dyno can test up to 1500hp. I mean everything is so well organized and you don't have to dive through crap to find something. If you guys can't honestly tell the two apart maybe its time for lasik eye surgery. I guess the numbers won't lie today.:ro)

Actually its the injection pump its not as strong as the LB7, thats what is holding us back :boxing:
Are you SURE the injection pumps are different? :confused:

DSLBeast - you're correct in stating that TTS could use a little "spring cleaning". And actually, the last time I stopped by, about a month ago, the place looked a lot more organized than on previous occasions. A number of years ago I went into the "store front" location of PPE where the stereo business is located. It was well organized. In my honest opinion, the two businesses are very different. One (PPE) is essentially a retail shop, pulling people in off a very busy street (and they may have a back shop, sounds like you have been into it). The other business (TTS) is tucked into strictly a large industrial park and is not a retail business. TTS is mainly a product/software development house. A lot of their business is not done with "Joe Public", but rather business to business. If you had talked with Steve about his business, you would find out that he employs a number of engineers at different locations. Each of these businesses are capable of altering the ECM fueling tables to give our trucks added performance. I hope your happy with your set-up, as I am with mine.

PS - Last time I was in the back shop of TTS, there was a rather large "engine dyno" waiting to be installed. Looks interesting.

DSLBeast

I am doing a rework on an Allison that was modifyed at PPE. The Transgo shift kit had half the parts left out, holes were missing, and some were not drilled. The Allison failed. Return springs for C2 clutch were not installed at all. Tell me more about PPE, in fact you can tell me to my face today at the drag strip. By the way; my office is a mess because I spend my time out in the shop making sure everything works properly, not counting my coins.Guess all your fancy tools didn't help you with this customers Allison.
mike

Are you SURE the injection pumps are different? :confused:
Comeon Clyde, Joe told him therefore it must be true. How could you question it, what are you, some kind of GM tech or something......

TTS better bring some moneyMake sure you can fit your 2nd place trophy in your truck...........:cool:

P.S............don't forget your credit card............I heard the TTS guys get hungry after they beat down the competition............):h

As far as TTS......:rolleyes: .......when a company is only interested in performance of an engine or transmission and they do more than install speakers and woofers and they are an R&D shop instead of a retail shop they can have papers and a mess if they choose...........:exactly: ............the product speaks for itself..........so if there is a little mess the end result is as close to perfection as it can be.........;)

I was at TTS last week.......:eek:.......they are NOT in the business of selling fart can mufflers, big ricer wings, and substandard tunes or parts. If they were like other companies they would be flooding the market with crap and then sending out call tags to fix defective products..............

So my friend,

Just make sure you like the view from the back of the pack............because TTS will be looking towards the back for you to play catch up.............as far as PPE being a player...........I am sure they are............are they the leader in tuning ????............doubt it...........

Hopefully you realize that today after you get done at the track. I know that eating crow doesn't taste good............hope you like the taste............:muahaha:

This is getting good. Cant wait to see the results. May the best man/truck win. There is no doubt that the TTS tunes are tried and true. PPE seems to be making a run at the HOTTEST tune available and I salute them for that as I believe they do offer an excellent product. As far as them having a stereo shop/retail store i couldnt give a sh!t. What matters is the product they put out. The comments about TTS not having the cleanest shop also holds no water. Again, who gives a sh!t what the place looks like, they have a good product and thats all that matters. This race also will not prove much as far as what the best tune is as apples to apples will not be compared. What will tell the truth is an independant testing them both on the same truck, same day. Until that time comes.............

139 replies and over 4,500 *views*!! This thread is sure grabbing some attention! Like many others, I can't wait to see if the "talkin smack" can carry any water "at the track"! Good luck "Beastie Boy" I think you're gonna need it!

I e-mailed one of our bigger power tuner shops the other day and this was the very diapointing reply I got. "You will never see the big power tunes on your LLY like on your LB7, mainley because of smaller injectors and a different turbo.....Really ? So glad I have an LLY on the way ! Maybe my buddie with my old LB7 will trade me for the new one ?


The injector holes are the same size and number between the two. The tip itself is smaller to accommodate the changes necessary to make "quick change" injectors possible.

I have the latest version of the PPE hot, I also have ordered my TTS Extreme. When I get the TTS I will run them both on the same truck on the same day and post the time slips. I think the new PPE is a very strong box but I cannot comment on it being better or worse than the TTS until I have run them both. I'll see if Tony can be at the track the same day and give his opinion.Jim.

when are ya going to have the tts?

when are ya going to have the tts? Soon hopefully, I really can't say though.

I have the latest version of the PPE hot, I also have ordered my TTS Extreme. When I get the TTS I will run them both on the same truck on the same day and post the time slips. I think the new PPE is a very strong box but I cannot comment on it being better or worse than the TTS until I have run them both. I'll see if Tony can be at the track the same day and give his opinion.Jim.Jim,

I will see you at Lebanon on Thursday, May 12th..........

I will have my stock ECM and 7mm nut-driver..........

So then..........if it goes faster stand alone on my truck or with my OJ stacked I will accurately report the results..........

See Ya Thursday..........

T:cool: NY

better bring a camera or you know what youll get when you post results

Perfect. Sounds like we will know the truth soon enough.....

anybody know if the race today is going to happen or is you know who backing down?

better bring a camera or you know what youll get when you post results
Jannetty is sponsoring the private track rental for the area hot-rodders.

There will be plenty of witnesses and I am truly interested in finding out what it will do.

If anyone has a PPE hot and have run it stacked with a HOT OJ lemme know what setting yeilded the best results on your truck so I can give the two the best shot at putting up the best results.

Better plumb my twin lift pumps this week.

:eek:
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Jim,

I will see you at Lebanon on Thursday, May 12th..........

I will have my stock ECM and 7mm nut-driver..........

So then..........if it goes faster stand alone on my truck or with my OJ stacked I will accurately report the results..........

See Ya Thursday..........

T:cool: NY I'll bring my small trailer with a generator, compressor and impact wrench with hand tools, this way we can fool around with weight and air pressure. On the other post I was just talking about running the TTS and the PPE on the same truck on the same day, we'll even take turns driving.

Jannetty is sponsoring the private track rental for the area hot-rodders.

There will be plenty of witnesses and I am truly interested in finding out what it will do.

If anyone has a PPE hot and have run it stacked with a HOT OJ lemme know what setting yeilded the best results on your truck so I can give the two the best shot at putting up the best results.

Better plumb my twin lift pumps this week.

:eek:
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. We can put the OJ on my PPE hot.

I figured I would make TWO passes with the Xtreme, TWO with the PPE stand alone and Two with it Stacked PPE/JUICE.......

It should be interesting.

Weather report:

Thursday
Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s.


Looks like a good day at the track.
I have put my H2's with the 33-12.50's back on so I may be slower than when I ran the 265's last time at the track.

It may or may not make any difference. I am not going to bother taking anything off except the spare,gate and bed mat.

T:cool: NY

I figured I would make TWO passes with the Xtreme, TWO with the PPE stand alone and Two with it Stacked PPE/JUICE.......

It should be interesting.

Weather report:

Thursday
Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s.


Looks like a good day at the track.
I have put my H2's with the 33-12.50's back on so I may be slower than when I ran the 265's last time at the track.

It may or may not make any difference. I am not going to bother taking anything off except the spare,gate and bed mat.

T:cool: NY Yeah well I sure need to shed some weight and lower my torsion bars and air down, at the very least. Maybe about twenty passes would'nt hurt either.):h

I have been to both shops and checked out TTS and let me tell you. I have never seen so much crap inside a "professional shop". The "office" has got paperwork all over the place and such filth. I mean the place is a rat packs heaven -:t and there is barely enough room to get by and move around. Now at least with PPE he is running a full blown operation, in two different sides of "his" building.):h I believe TTS is a 3-4 man operation where PPE is at least 15 man operation. Hmmm someone at PPE is doing something right. I must also say that how can you test a vehicle with a retro style dyno from the 50's dam near that only can handle per say 450-500 hp? At least at PPE, Joe's dyno can test up to 1500hp. I mean everything is so well organized and you don't have to dive through crap to find something. If you guys can't honestly tell the two apart maybe its time for lasik eye surgery. I guess the numbers won't lie today.:ro)
DSLBeast,

First it's, he lives with his Mommy.
Then it's his shop/office is a mess. What next?

Your really searching for something here. I'm just not sure what. I can't wait to see what further stupidity spills from your mouth. Although honestly I wouldn't expcect anything different from someone with a 12" lift.

Perhaps if you spent as much time trying out different tunes/products as much as you do talking smack.....or repeating things you are told........you could actually have enough information to make an informed decision.

My advise......by the new Quad it's cheaper and will run the same.

Leave for half a day and look what I miss! Guy, I had fun singing along! Laughed my ass off. In fact, I couldn't stop laughing at some of the posts.

At this point DSL is just stirring the pot. PPE may very well have a new LB7 tune that will compete with the Extreme. It'll be interesting to see. I still know where my money is though.

His shots at Steve and TTS are completely childish though. I don't know if Steve lives with his parents or not. Never asked because I never cared. Still don't. It's interesting though how we went from racing two Duramaxes with PPE and TTS tunes, to racing dynos, to comparing TTS and PPE shops. Nothing like keeping a topic on topic ;)

Well, everyone is on their way home.
Dmax doug ran a 12.178 @ 110.45, CC/4WD on 35's, LB7 TTS w/ NOS and the PPE truck was running 12.2's, Reg cab,4WD, LB7 PPE, NOS and LPG. MRMAGU ran a 12.91 CC/4wd LLY, pane + NOS. DieselCR ran a 12.5? CC/2wd PPE + NOS.

Wheres the popcorn??

clear that post up for us slow guys

The PPE truck is at least 800 lb lighter maybe more. Too bad we were not at Famoso in Bakersfield. Doug would have run 11.70s. DSLBeast is 2WD with 12 inch lift. Silly looking truck.):h We are not done with Dougs truck yet.:cool:

Two new bests for Big Blue:

On #2, ran 13.99@94.14 on a soft 1.92 60'. Best 60' on #2 was 1.85, 5 times. Still not shifting swell.

Then 13.38@103.39 on a 1.87 60' with a .070" jet of NAWSSS and manually turning it on and off to allow the trans to shift.

I'm pretty sure I can do a 12 if I get the trans to shift while spraying.

DieselCR (Jose?) ran a 12.59@112.75 on a 1.92 60' against me. New record for an LLY????

Congrats to Frank (Magu) and Doug for going into 12's for the first time! Heck Doug nearly skipped the 12's and went right to the 11's :eek:

It was a great day.

Tim (Sheep herder) went deep into the 12's for the title of Quickest Truck in the Fast Four elimination. The other "hotrod" Dodge went 12.004 then had a engine problem and didn't make it to the Fast Four.

The PPE truck is at least 800 lb lighter maybe more.

IS IT ME, OR IS THIS AN EXCUSE COMMING FROM CAMP TTS??? :confused: ):h

IS IT ME, OR IS THIS AN EXCUSE COMMING FROM CAMP TTS??? :confused: ):h
Its you. -:t

Doug still went faster. :D

Take Some Pepto And Call Me In The Am Tripp ;)

Take Some Pepto And Call Me In The Am Tripp ;)
:lol:
Good One! :clap:

Dslbeast was a no show (surprise, surprise), at least for the racing portion of the day. He may have spectated but there was no sign of a 12" lift on the track. I won't say anything about an alligator mouth etc. PPE did bring a trailer queen which ran low 12's, not sure of exact times. There were several PPE customer trucks ablaze with PPE emblems. One (dieselcr337?) was competitive. Dmax Doug was certainly the fastest Dmax. Of course all who showed up were quicker than DSLbeast simply by the fact of being there.

timdog caught me sleeping in the fast 4. In fact I was sleeping all day long - I couldn't cut a light to save my life. Anyway, once I saw that timdog had gone ahead and started his run http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif, I took off and ran him down. My 12.17 to his 12.28 wasn't enough to overcome my afternoon siesta reaction time, and he beat me by .008 seconds. I'm sure someone mathmatically gifted will chime in and say "That's only like 7 inches". Coulda woulda shoulda, timdog beat me on a run where his truck was laying down anyway. Good win Tim.

By the way, my old good luck tires didn't let Tim down this weekend. Of course if I were running them I'd have won, but then I couldn't cause Tim was busy winning with them. As that a circular reference? I think I need a drink.

It was good seeing another big crowd - Pat what was the headcount? Over twenty for sure.

Doug

this has been a great thread regardless of the *&^% talk - and i feel really bad for the PPE camp (not really) as they had it coming, talked alot and couldnt back it up - ouch thats gotta hurt. Next time, bring your A game if you have one (i guess he doesnt as he didnt run) - ouch, that must hurt !! AGAIN !! OR JUST DONT OPEN YOUR MOUTH !!! Nice run Doug - thats dam fast - great job and i know you will be in the 11's very soon

I didn't see the Beast myself, but he was rumored to have made a run or two early. But isn't that the nature of a true beast anyway, big, lurking, rumored to have been seen by some, glimpsed by others, but no one knows for sure, and then he's gone. So let's go easy on him; keeping up that beast mistique must be difficult. :)

Dslbeast was a no show (surprise, surprise), at least for the racing portion of the day. He may have spectated but there was no sign of a 12" lift on the track. I won't say anything about an alligator mouth etc. PPE did bring a trailer queen which ran low 12's, not sure of exact times. There were several PPE customer trucks ablaze with PPE emblems. One (dieselcr337?) was competitive. Dmax Doug was certainly the fastest Dmax. Of course all who showed up were quicker than DSLbeast simply by the fact of being there.Not sure why they brought the PPE truck on the trailer? Your guess is as good as mine, i remember he ran a 12.1x on one, PPE and a litte nitrous, i know its wasnt much at all. I remember we drove to Irwindale we put out enough smoke that we slowed down the freeway!! I got some air on the little hills when i was heading to the 215 doing 125. Lets see i smoked out this white Lexus with his windows open for a good while! cuz he was riding my ass!! then I him pass me and he Flipped me off.):h ( oh yeah it hurts), when he got a chance he turned into that Y on the 138 he went left we went right, he threw a Water bottle at me out of his sun roof??:wtf: Maybe next time he wont ride a Dmaxes ass!! Same goes for some motorcycle. riding the PPE White lifted truck that was there(not sure if he ran). so he smoked him out):h , then he passed him(while flipping him off) got behind Dan,(lifted Brown PPE GMC), DID the same damn thing! so Dan smoked him. Flips him off and then he gets behind me! and does it to me too,(dont like getting tailgated this was a few miles after the Lexus). he was just asking for it. he was even riding my passenger side, and i have a rear facing exhaust! you think he would learn!:duh: Nope. So i smoked him too. I got flipped off twice and got a open water bottle thrown at me. Does that make me a jerk? they were asking for it. Maybe i shouldn't lower my self to other peoples level.

I know i got :offtopic: , but i didnt see a thread about todays results.

...
It was good seeing another big crowd - Pat what was the headcount? Over twenty for sure.

Doug

When I counted the trucks in line to practice, there was 22 I believe. However it seems only 17 trucks actually entered the brackets. They raced with us, but didn't compete.

Thanks Doug, that was a great race. I had you by about 1 1/2 trucks. I looked over at you about half track and you were huntting my ass down pretty fast. Then about 3/4 track we were bumper to bumper going through the lights. That was a Damn good race. If I didn't put that bigger jet in I might have got in to the 11's, I don't. What I do know is that I put to much NOS at It and it felt off just alittle. It was alot of fun today. Maybe next time.timdog caught me sleeping in the fast 4. In fact I was sleeping all day long - I couldn't cut a light to save my life. Anyway, once I saw that timdog had gone ahead and started his run http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif, I took off and ran him down. My 12.17 to his 12.28 wasn't enough to overcome my afternoon siesta reaction time, and he beat me by .008 seconds. I'm sure someone mathmatically gifted will chime in and say "That's only like 7 inches". Coulda woulda shoulda, timdog beat me on a run where his truck was laying down anyway. Good win Tim.

By the way, my old good luck tires didn't let Tim down this weekend. Of course if I were running them I'd have won, but then I couldn't cause Tim was busy winning with them. As that a circular reference? I think I need a drink.

It was good seeing another big crowd - Pat what was the headcount? Over twenty for sure.

Doug

Lets see i smoked out this white Lexus with his windows open for a good while! cuz he was riding my ass!! then I him pass me and he Flipped me off.):h ( oh yeah it hurts), when he got a chance he turned into that Y on the 138 he went left we went right, he threw a Water bottle at me out of his sun roof??:wtf: Maybe next time he wont ride a Dmaxes ass!!
Good Job. :ro)

Making them respect the diesel! :D

The PPE truck is at least 800 lb lighter maybe more. Too bad we were not at Famoso in Bakersfield. Doug would have run 11.70s. DSLBeast is 2WD with 12 inch lift. Silly looking truck.):h We are not done with Dougs truck yet.:cool:

Well, I get to respond to this little man, with the black t-shirt and the Elmer Fudd eyeglasses. I saw you at the track today and your number (323) truck did just like you did, NOTHING!!!!!!! It sat still in the same place like yourself, Hiding!!! If you did your homework, DSL Beast does not own or have a 2WD with a 12" lift. Silly looking truck, I say, Silly old man!!!!!!!:eek: If you spent half your time doing the right thing like racing......; your shop, your truck, and yourself would not hide behind your computer. You can't come out and play with the big boys, Little Man!!!!!!! Bitter, Bitter, Bitter,,,,,,and still in second, coming up the rear, as usual!!!!!!!


:exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly:

:goesandgrabssomepopcorn:

:iamlost: Lol!!!! So who ran the fastest????

:iamlost: Lol!!!! So who ran the fastest????Dmax_Doug for the Duramaxes!:ro)

:iamlost: Lol!!!! So who ran the fastest????
Silly, it was a Dodge):h One at 12.00? before losing a head gasket, and Tim's Dodge @12.10.:ro)

Truth is, I'm not sure you are going to get a good answer on which D max went fastest, one had a quicker ET and another had more MPH:confuzeld All I know is that there are a lot of fast trucks running at this LACR/DHRA series.
I believe Dmax Doug had fast E.T. for the Max's with a 12.17:grd: I certainly don't want to get in the middle of this.:badidea:

Craig

Dmax_Doug!:ro)

I thought i read another truck ran@ over 114mph? (didnt he run in the 110's) So what are the details???:ro)

4 MPH is a lot!!!

Well, everyone is on their way home.
Dmax doug ran a 12.178 @ 110.45, CC/4WD on 35's, LB7 TTS w/ NOS and the PPE truck was running 12.2's, Reg cab,4WD, LB7 PPE, NOS and LPG. MRMAGU ran a 12.91 CC/4wd LLY, pane + NOS. DieselCR ran a 12.5? CC/2wd PPE + NOS.

Wheres the popcorn??
PPE did not have LPG (Propane)....... But did have a tailgate on its bed still in the closed position...

Great job guys........:ro)

Who crossed the finish line first? Where I ccome from each and every race is decided by who crosses the finish line first.

Regardless of slippage,breakage and all that other BS.

It has nothing to do with your best time ever printed in your sig.

Who crossed the finish line first? That is the guy that has 2 pink slips.

Well, I get to respond to this little man, with the black t-shirt and the Elmer Fudd eyeglasses. I saw you at the track today and your number (323) truck did just like you did, NOTHING!!!!!!! It sat still in the same place like yourself, Hiding!!! If you did your homework, DSL Beast does not own or have a 2WD with a 12" lift. Silly looking truck, I say, Silly old man!!!!!!!:eek: If you spent half your time doing the right thing like racing......; your shop, your truck, and yourself would not hide behind your computer. You can't come out and play with the big boys, Little Man!!!!!!! Bitter, Bitter, Bitter,,,,,,and still in second, coming up the rear, as usual!!!!!!!


:exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly:
So, I take it that you are the idiot with the stupid looking truck? You know, if my black tee shirt and glasses bothered you that much, you could have come right up to me and complained instead of doing it on the computer. As far as not running my truck, thats my business.

Wow, we sure do have a lot of new users chiming in.... :confused:

Well, I get to respond to this little man, with the black t-shirt and the Elmer Fudd eyeglasses. I saw you at the track today and your number (323) truck did just like you did, NOTHING!!!!!!! It sat still in the same place like yourself, Hiding!!! If you did your homework, DSL Beast does not own or have a 2WD with a 12" lift. Silly looking truck, I say, Silly old man!!!!!!!:eek: If you spent half your time doing the right thing like racing......; your shop, your truck, and yourself would not hide behind your computer. You can't come out and play with the big boys, Little Man!!!!!!! Bitter, Bitter, Bitter,,,,,,and still in second, coming up the rear, as usual!!!!!!!


:exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: :exactly: You know, that's the most chlidish thing I've read on this very childish thread so far. First of all Mike gives more help to people on this sight than just about anyone, second who cares what he looks like? Why can't the same truck just run both programs at the same track on the same day? Just repeat the runs several times on each program and get back to what this sight is so good at, helping people who don't have the knowledge that some of the rest of us do. This cheerleading a product and fighting with each other does nothing to help anyone, all it does is make people have hard feelings towards each other. Not very productive, funny to a point but only ends in hard feelings amoung guy's who are supposed to be on the same team.:rant: over.

PPE has been very good to me. They are a shop making power :ro) and I think people are just mad now cause their stuff ain't putting out what PPE is.:exactly:
I just don't see why people knock them down. I've been very happy with everything that I have purchased from them and they stand behind their product.):h Now that you come back to their shop with an attitude, all pissed off:mad: and don't get what you want is a different story. All I know is it will make you eat my smoke, gasp for air and not let you see where the finish line is at till the race is over.So in the end, PPE didn't live up to your claim.
Perhaps you should change your screen name to "Omar the fool".):h

So in the end, PPE didn't live up to your claim.
Perhaps you should change your screen name to "Omar the fool".):h
Ummm what were your numbers?

hmmmm Well I must say it was a great day at the races many fast trucks. As far as me talking to you Mike L. well, I felt like after reading your post I didn't really want to hear any slander cause that sounds very thin. I don't know anybody that would go spend 4-5 thousand and not go see the guy who did all the work. Anyhow it's all good, you ran strong and the guys that run your product are very happy and its great.
You responded with "The PPE truck is at least 800 lb lighter maybe more. Too bad we were not at Famoso in Bakersfield. Doug would have run 11.70s. DSLBeast is 2WD with 12 inch lift. Silly looking truck.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif We are not done with Dougs truck yet."
I'm sorry but excuses are like assholes everybody's got one. If you are into racing horsepower to weight ratio is the answer. Joe choose that truck with the intention of doing one thing, and as you know he made his statement very clear about his product. :bow: As far as your 11.70s I believe Joe would still be quicker since his truck is "lighter". As for me, my truck is not a 2wd truck it is a 4wd white truck nice try though and thanks for the props. And as far as silly, well it still looked a hell of a lot better than your little truck and Dan's so called "silly truck" was kickin some serious silly ass!!!!!!:ro) Don't be a sore loser and show some sportsmanship.:Handshake My truck looks by far a lot better than whatever you have for a truck so don't go there.:Nonono: The PPE truck ran pretty dam good and so did the TTS trucks so I give you props on your product and good racing.

OK, so the question at hand is still, WHY DIDN'T YOU RACE dslbeast?:eek:

After all of that smack talk, you where there, why didn't you run? Where you scared of loosing?

And don't flame me, because every one wants to know.

So what is the answer?:Pshyco:

Wow, we sure do have a lot of new users chiming in.... :confused:
It's the PPE marketing blitz. -:t

There is and will always be products that perfrom better and produce more HP then the next guy. It all comes down to pricing. As long as pricing is inline with the pecking order then it is no big deal.

You responded with "The PPE truck is at least 800 lb lighter maybe more. Too bad we were not at Famoso in Bakersfield. Doug would have run 11.70s. DSLBeast is 2WD with 12 inch lift. Silly looking truck.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif We are not done with Dougs truck yet."
I'm sorry but excuses are like assholes everybody's got one. If you are into racing horsepower to weight ratio is the answer. Joe choose that truck with the intention of doing one thing, and as you know he made his statement very clear about his product. :bow: As far as your 11.70s I believe Joe would still be quicker since his truck is "lighter". .I think you're missing the point, Dougs truck is FASTER and HEAVIER. Doug was the low ET Dmax, period.

Perhaps you should change your screen name to "Omar the fool".):h
i think DSLB!tch would be more fitting.

wow, im about to take a drive/mini-vacation out to so-cal, I need to come see some of yall racing one weekend.......

Dslbeast,
With all your smack talk and your failure to show up to back it up, you ought to be ashamed to even post in this thread again. Yes, PPE trucks made a good showing, however yours was not one of them. So quit hiding behind "Dan" or "Joe" or anyone else. There were several 4WD CC's there waiting for you to at least identify yourself. Until you can back up your mouth on the track, dont bother us again.

Dslbeast,
Until you can back up your mouth on the track, dont bother us again.
that means SHOW UP OR SHUT UP

yea, i dont understand, why would you go to the track and watch, and not run? Hell, my truck is slow as a fresh turd sliding down a dry toilet bowl and if i showed up id still take it down the track......

wow, im about to take a drive/mini-vacation out to so-cal, I need to come see some of yall racing one weekend.......
RUNNINHORN,

C'mon down, most of us are really good ol' boys at heart. A good time was had by all!!!!

A little friendly jabbing before a race makes it more exciting.

Throwing darts after a race? You're walking a thin line between gloating, poor loser, and ahole.

Congrats to everyone who showed up and laid it down.

RUNNINHORN,

C'mon down, most of us are really good ol' boys at heart. A good time was had by all!!!!
most definately will do. My place is in Winnetka, Ca, where exactly is this LCRA yall race at?

www.LACR.net (http://www.LACR.net) most definately will do. My place is in Winnetka, Ca, where exactly is this LCRA yall race at?

www.LACR.net (http://www.lacr.net/)
thanks, 45 mins, not bad at all. Will try and do my trip around yalls next gathering........

A little friendly jabbing before a race makes it more exciting.

Throwing darts after a race? You're walking a thin line between gloating, poor loser, and ahole.

Congrats to everyone who showed up and laid it down.
Don't you think it was more than friendly jabbing?
:boxing: :nutkick: :stick_out :lying: :lying: :lying:

more like throwing rocks

I think my smiles list is self explanitory

i think DSLB!tch would be more fitting.
You talk big from far away like your other buddy Rollofhill or whatever his dumbass name is

The fact of the matter is you all knew what my truck looked like and no one ever walked up and asked to put it on the line and show'em up for some $$$$


I'm not into running my truck for fun.

You don't have to resort to calling me a dumb as$ do you? I just asked the question that everyone wants to know. You claimed you could run, so why didn't you?

The fact of the matter is you all knew what my truck looked like and no one ever walked up and asked to put it on the line and show'em up for some $$$$


I'm not into running my truck for fun.WTF???


i dont understand, you want people to approach you and ask you to run? you dont do it for fun? what do you do it for? Not following you here......

:exactly:

oh and by the way happy mothers day to all the little bizachs on the board that keep talking **** hahahahahaaaa

now here comes the list of excuses:blahblah:

id just like a simple answer to a simple question........not understanding this one......

oh and by the way happy mothers day to all the little bizachs on the board that keep talking **** hahahahahaaaa
atleast i can back it up

dslbeast




It is a good way to get a bad reputation around here! All he can do is call people names.:badidea:

I can't back it up I don't have a "race truck" I have a work truck. BUT I don't go running my mouth either!

Well, that's the end of DSLBeast - gone totally troll. He smack-talks and challenges, including a "five-digit" wager. Then doesn't show when it's time to go. Now it's "I'm not running my truck for nothing" after proposing five-digits without showing up. Mamas and other weak-ass insults. Is it just me, or is this guy no longer worthy of any replies? Seeeee-Yah!

The fact of the matter is you all knew what my truck looked like and no one ever walked up and asked to put it on the line and show'em up for some $$$$


I'm not into running my truck for fun.


Maybe no one approached you cuz you were walking around in circles with a confused look on your face trying to find the life you should get ):h

Not into running your truck for fun? If you need cash to run your truck you need to find another forum. The way you act, I bet you really have a hemi ram, got to one of thier boards were you belong....

The fact of the matter is you all knew what my truck looked like and no one ever walked up and asked to put it on the line and show'em up for some $$$$


I'm not into running my truck for fun.


You make fun of Mike L. for showing up to help people with their trucks yet not racing.


And YOU didn't race???


:confused:

Maybe you should enlighten us??

=
Maybe you should enlighten us??dont waste your time, he isnt man enough.....sounds like this guy has bitten off way more than he can chew, written a check with his mouth that his truck cant cash, and is now afraid to race.......

The fact of the matter is you all knew what my truck looked like and no one ever walked up and asked to put it on the line and show'em up for some $$$$


I'm not into running my truck for fun. I would suspect that dslbeast showed up, saw what times TTS trucks were running, discussed with other PPE advocates and decided wisely to make a hasty retreat, having already made a fool of himself on the board...

Not nice to make fun of Mike L without the gonads to back up in person in front of his friends. Mike is in fact not a large man physically, however he is larger than life as a person. Don't mess with him!!!!!

oh and by the way happy mothers day to all the little bizachs on the board that keep talking **** hahahahahaaaa

:funnypost FROM AN http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/12342.jpg

I go DSLbeast in the mornin and it comes out faster than one of those PPE hot things.

I go DSLbeast in the mornin and it comes out faster than one of those PPE hot things.
:lol: :lol:

I for one was happy to see everyone was at least civil at the track yesterday:D For not only where my kids where present but others as well.. Hate to explain to the little ones why grown men where fighting over tunes :rolleyes:

Amen!!!!!

So all the talk (And ranting) about how the PPE was going to clean house without any added help! Then nothing was done without propane and or nitrous. We know no more now then we did before all this started.

One says only a little nitrous was used, yea right! You can't get good advertising if you need other forms of air/fuel to make power.

$10,000 wager was a joke, he had to hide fearing he may be called out, then complains because no one did call him out. What a joke.

Can we start a petition to get dslbeast banned?

getting into a fight at a track is stupid, not worth getting arrested because of argument on the computer. meet up after the race down the street & settle it like men.

to fight over who has the better truck, tune & stuff is just plain dumb. its the other trash talking that would bring on a fight.

Kat is right about doing it infront of kids & people. i did my fair share of trash talking in this thread & other threads with this guy. actually, it shouldnt be going on, were on the same team.

Nobody ran a 12 on #2 alone yesterday that I witnessed. Most the trucks on #2 were 13 and 14.

Actually, the quickest "diesel fuel powered" truck ran a 9 at 170+ mph. He used a jet engine to do though.

He probably wouldn't be getting slammed so bad had he runned yesterday.:cool:

At least then we could give him a little respect for trying!:p:

I guess he was hanging out inCOGNITO behind his 12" lift!):h

getting into a fight at a track is stupid, not worth getting arrested because of argument on the computer. meet up after the race down the street & settle it like men.

to fight over who has the better truck, tune & stuff is just plain dumb. its the other trash talking that would bring on a fight.

Kat is right about doing it infront of kids & people. i did my fair share of trash talking in this thread & other threads with this guy. actually, it shouldnt be going on, were on the same team.

Regardless of the Interwebberthingy smack-talk, everyone was polite, helpful, and having a good time. We all helped each other get the best out of our trucks, lending tools and advice to each other to get the most out of our trucks.

While we might disagree about modifications, we pull together like a team in the name of our sport. It was the best turnout so far, and lots of the spectators were very interested in our efforts.

I did not run my truck yesterday because I developed a slight wobble in the steering on the way to the track. I was undecided what to do as I filled out the entrance form and paid the full 20 bucks just in case. I decided not to run incase I have a wheel bearing going bad. Truck only does this on certain types of surface. I will be more than ready in July.
mike

So all the talk (And ranting) about how the PPE was going to clean house without any added help! Then nothing was done without propane and or nitrous. We know no more now then we did before all this started.

One says only a little nitrous was used, yea right! You can't get good advertising if you need other forms of air/fuel to make power.

$10,000 wager was a joke, he had to hide fearing he may be called out, then complains because no one did call him out. What a joke.

Can we start a petition to get dslbeast banned?
Who was using propane??? I did not see any on either TTS or PPE trucks...

know one should take any of what is being said on the computer personally, and from all the profesionalism I saw at the track from all the racers it was evident that everyone was having a good time.....:)

Ummm what were your numbers?
Sorry, I don't race my truck nor do I make claims that I do and can't back it up like yourself.
There are alot of trucks like your's in this town. Driven by people like you with more money and ego than brains. Learn to be humble your just a small fish in a big pond.

You could learn a lot from this board if you just made half an attempt to earn some respect.

I did not run my truck yesterday because I developed a slight wobble in the steering on the way to the track. I was undecided what to do as I filled out the entrance form and paid the full 20 bucks just in case. I decided not to run incase I have a wheel bearing going bad. Truck only does this on certain types of surface. I will be more than ready in July.
mike

Missing a race due to a problem can ruin your whole day.

Going into the wall at 100mph can ruin your whole life.

Who was using propane??? I did not see any on either TTS or PPE trucks...

know one should take any of what is being said on the computer personally, and from all the profesionalism I saw at the track from all the racers it was evident that everyone was having a good time.....:)

Some trucks ran Propane.

McRat


Always the voice of reason, wisdom and experience. :exactly:

This is kind of neat... http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htm bunch of ET/HP/MPH calcs.

Figuring Doug's weight as 7500 lbs (doesnt he have a crewcab?), he was pushing 835HP....Whew!

The "PPE truck" if it was 800 lbs lighter (was it a reg cab or ext cab?) was at 730HP. Nothing to sneeze at, but still 105 less than Doug.

Now, if the PPE truck had the same HP as Doug, he would have gone approx 11.66 @ 117 mph. If he was running a crewcab (same weight), he would've run a 12.66 @ 107. Still very respectable....

Mr. DSLBeast, theres a saying where I live: "Put your money where your mouth is". You would've paid someone....but since you didn't run, don't shoot your mouth off.

T:cool: ny...that's one of the funniest things I've seen here yet!!!! :ro)

Tom :pig:

This is kind of neat...http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htmWhole bunch of ET/HP/MPH calcs.

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This is kind of neat...http://www.stealth316.com/2-calc-hp-et-mph.htmWhole bunch of ET/HP/MPH calcs.

Figuring Doug's weight as 7500 lbs (doesnt he have a crewcab?), he was pushing 835HP....Whew!

The "PPE truck" if it was 800 lbs lighter (was it a reg cab or ext cab?) was at 730HP. Nothing to sneeze at, but still 105 less than Doug.

Now, if the PPE truck had the same HP as Doug, he would have gone approx 11.66 @ 117 mph. If he was running a crewcab (same weight), he would've run a 12.66 @ 107. Still very respectable....

Mr. DSLBeast, theres a saying where I live: "Put your money where your mouth is". You would've paid someone....but since you didn't run, don't shoot your mouth off.

T:cool: ny...that's one of the funniest things I've seen here yet!!!! :ro)

Tom :pig:
According to Doug his truck was 6950 and PPE truck 6620 = 330lb difference
what do the numbers come to with the correct values....

Some trucks ran Propane.
I did't see any propane on Doug's truck or PPE's gold truck....
I think those are the ones we are talking about.....
sorry for the confusion...:)

McRat


Always the voice of reason, wisdom and experience. :exactly:

Actually, I'm an ahole who just hides it better some. :D

:grd:

With changed weight values, Doug was approx 760HP, PPE was roughly 720HP. I originally figured PPE at 6700 to Doug's 7500.

Fixed that link, BTW.

Tom :eek:

Thanks for the info...

[QUOTE=TheBac]With changed weight values, Doug was approx 760HP, PPE was roughly 720HP. I originally figured PPE at 6700 to Doug's 7500.

Fixed that link, BTW.
hp = (mph / 219.87)3.18674 x weight (lbs)

hp mph wgt

= 816HP for PPE
= 765HP for TTS

according to your formula......

[QUOTE=TheBac]With changed weight values, Doug was approx 760HP, PPE was roughly 720HP. I originally figured PPE at 6700 to Doug's 7500.

Fixed that link, BTW.
hp = (mph / 219.87)3.18674 x weight (lbs)

hp mph wgt

= 816HP for PPE
= 765HP for TTS

according to your formula......Well, they aren't my formulas, bud.....there are a bunch of them there....I went with the Patrick Hale ones. That gave both values ET and mph.

Tom

HP formulas don't work so well on diesel pickups. Boost, shifting, and weight aren't fitting well into formulas developed using cars weighing 3500lb and running 12's with good aerodynamics and 3 or 4 speed (racing shifts) transmissions.

Still fun to "figure" them , Pat....anything over 500HP is :cool: by me....

I'm still amazed we're touching 800 now. ):h

Tom :eek:

According to Doug his truck was 6950 and PPE truck 6620 = 330lb difference
what do the numbers come to with the correct values....I'm pretty sure a crew cab is more than 330lbs heavier than a regular cab. But I could be wrong. Was the PPE a tune only, or a stack?

I'm pretty sure a crew cab is more than 330lbs heavier than a regular cab. But I could be wrong. Was the PPE a tune only, or a stack?
tune only no stack

Not bad!

Actually, I'm an ahole who just hides it better some. :D

:grd:
Thats funny right there, I don't care who ya are!!!!!):h