Here's the new system. It doesn't show associated wiring or the SD bottle label. The labels will be shipped in a week or so to the oderers of the system. The wiring comes in the kit. The bottle is 15lb. The bottle to the solinoid line is 20' and the jets will come in accordance to your altitde.

Looks nice! :ro) Has a bigger solenoid than I got, which is a good thing. My baby solenoid only has about a .060" hole in it, so putting in bigger jets does nothing.

Some ?:

Does the bottle have a label? Some refiller's and NHRA tracks require a sticker on the bottle indicating N2O. Print them out on adhesive vinyl on your Deskjet printer.

How many feet of line? For "underbed" mounts you will need about 16' min.

very nice micheal, keep up the good kits, even the twistties included):h

from my n20 exsperice, this is the kit we need for our diesels, right sise lines, big bottle, hobbs, if i would of waited this is the system i would of got

what are your jet sisees, solenoid hole sise,$$, anyone need a 10lb bottle, i need a red one

Nice color on the bottle!! :cool2:

Fred, if you are selling a 10lb used bottle, how $$?

The bottles will come with a label for it. It will be a week or so before they come in, so the first few sets that go out, I will have to send a lable for when they come in. I will leave the lables off so the purchaser can put it on the bottle where they want. the solenoid is a big one that will satisfy the most power hungery and will clean up smoke from the Extreme, pane and a friend in conjunction, and will have future growth abilities as well (just jet up) .

Price.....????

How about just the bottle.....feel free to PM....

SD:
is the outside diameter the same sise as the 10lb nos bottle, have mine behind the back seat, but the diameter cannot be any bigger, how long are your 15lb and 20lb bottles

on edit: my bottle is 7" in diameter, and the lenght should not matter, lots of room

The 15lb I used to have was the same dia (6"?) as 10lb bottles.

15lb bottle is the same dia as the 10lb bottles, the 20 pounders are the same length as the 15lb but it has 2" larger dia. If you go with the 20 pounders SD will be making some custom brackets to put them in.

Thought this might help with the sizes.....

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/NOSCA/RplcmtBttl.html

I have no experience with Nitrous. Are there lots of places that fill them? Can you buy big tanks and fill the small ones yourself?

Sorry for the dumb questions. Newbie :)

so then the 20 lb is a 9" outside diameter, the 15 lb is a 7" outside diameter, is that correct
:ro)



15lb bottle is the same dia as the 10lb bottles, the 20 pounders are the same length as the 15lb but it has 2" larger dia. If you go with the 20 pounders SD will be making some custom brackets to put them in.

I believe so. I have'nt actually measured but thats what I remember SD telling me.

I have no experience with Nitrous. Are there lots of places that fill them? Can you buy big tanks and fill the small ones yourself?

Sorry for the dumb questions. Newbie :)
You can refill them yourself with bigger industrial size tanks but you will need to buy a NOS filling station from jegs or summit. If not all your local speed shops should carry it for a fair price, or if you have a deep pocket book you could just get them filled at the track.

You need an expensive pump to fill nitrous bottles. Most people go to a refiller. Refillers can be found by talking to your local hot rod shop or drag strip guys.

It costs $4-5 USD a lb.

i am dumb at this as well, but called the local welding shop, and for less than 200 dollars he can set me up with a full 100 lb bottle, so now i was wondering who has info on filling stations, i heard of keeping the supply bottle very cold and transfer that way, any good info and price would help


I have no experience with Nitrous. Are there lots of places that fill them? Can you buy big tanks and fill the small ones yourself?

Sorry for the dumb questions. Newbie :)

:ro) :ro) :ro)

It's always a good idea to freeze your bottles before you fill them if you can. My friend Adam has a filling station from NOS, and we always freeze the bottles before filling them.

That's easy enough to do. I assume you need a pump as well?

Sorry to Hijack this thread. If one of the mods could split it into a new thread that would be great.

the brand name "NOS" makes them and sells them. check on jegs or summits website for more information. All you need to do is hook it up to your air compressor and a power source.

Hope this helps you on your Nitrous endevors!!!

Mike,

You totally rock! I constantly impressed at the projects/products you've been pumping out, keep up the good work!


Max,

You might be able to get a bulk amout from like Praxair/AirGas.. if not, then you COULD make your own if you had a compressor and haskel pump.. mucho investment there just for NOS though..

Pat,

Check out California Cylinders.. they are out in pomona and have cylinders for all uses, air, liquid, etc.. with diff sizes and valves..

REFILLING YOUR OWN BOTTLES AT HOME

So you have sorted out a supplier of refills or somewhere to get your small car/bike bottle filled? That OK then!



But if like me you find it inconvenient to keep getting your bottle filled, or cheaper to buy bigger quantities then you will need to fill your own! Find someone such as Linde (Above) to "rent" you a huge "fill" bottle (100lb or above) that they will collect / deliver to and from your home. Then you can fill your smaller bottles from this.

My bike(s) had a small 2 1/2lb polished alloy bottle, and my Cars had 15lb bottles. These were filled sometimes every evening (I am addicted!) especially on bikes!

I didn't rent a big bottle as most people do, but used an old Argon bottle (100lb+) that was found at the back of my mates workshop! This is rated at much higher pressure than needed for Nitrous, so safe. Kingston Medical Gasses (now closed down sadly!) used to fill this for me when I needed it very cheaply!

All you need to fill your own bottles is:

Something to accurately weigh the empty and full bottles.

A fill loop (a bit of pipe to connect the full bottle to the empty one) - this can be cheap 4mm Nylon, with some simple end fittings.

A spanner

A brain...

You do NOT need a pump!

1. Check out the big bottle you are filling from. Does it have a siphon tube inside of it? Most do not. If it has leave it somewhere on the floor or preferably higher up if its not too heavy! With the valve at the top. If it's higher up than the bottle to be filled it will flow more easily into it. Remember you want the LIQUID out of it not the gas so if like most bottles it DOES NOT have a siphon tube, this fill bottle MUST be upside down! It does not need to be completely upside down, but the valve will need to be a little lower than the "bottom" of the bottle. Maybe 15 Degrees is enough. However you organise this, it must allow the LIQUID Nitrous to come out not the Gaseous Nitrous.

2. Connect a pipe (small bore nylon, bit of braided hose, or whatever) that is 1 to 2 meters long to the valve. Ready to connect up to the bottle you intend to fill up - but don't connect this yet!

3. Take the EMPTY bottle you need to refill and weigh it! Write it down. Learn it, and in any case it should be stamped on the bottle... But you MUST KNOW IT!

4. Now stick it in your deep freeze! Preferably the night before. Seriously. You need the bottle you are filling up to be colder than your big fill bottle. Because you need LIQUID Nitrous! Since they will be connected together, the pressure in both will be almost the same. The bottle to be filled will be lower down physically, (on the floor?) so its pressure will be slightly higher when the valves are opened. The pressure and temperature difference will ensure that your bottle will fill properly with liquid when you open the two valves.

5. Take you ice cold bottle out of the freezer, and connect it up to the big fill bottle that's waiting! Lay it on your "Bathroom Scales", or Spring Balance so you can see the weight...

6. On the bottle will be stamped the "full" weight, or the amount it holds... Open the valves, you will hear the Nitrous rushing in. When the CORRECT amount of Nitrous has filled your once empty bottle STOP! And disconnect.

DO NOT OVERFILL!
Its actually easy to get say, 3lb in a 2.5lb bottle or 18lb into a 14lb bottle, but its not big and its not clever! The extra space is DESIGNED to be there! Its expansion space and its important!
You don't want to see what happens if a blow off / overpressure valve fails to work...
Your house will be no more...
You will be no more!

Source: http://www.diy-nitrous.fsnet.co.uk/nitrous-n20--refills.htm

Nitrous is stored as liquid when compressed, but can be gas. I don't have too much experience/knowlege fo it, but was kind of under the impression, that under pressure, it was to liquefy based on partial pressure blending.. Speaking from experience of mixing my own gases for diving :)
Guess I'm wrong!

The 10lb and 15lb bottles are 7 inches in dia. but the 15lber is 27 inches tall as well as the 20lber. However the 20lber is 8 inches in dia.

Sorry I was a little off in my size for the 20lb bottle. I guess my eyes were more interested then my ears when you were showing me the stuff SD.

Several of the points listed below are for why you need a pump (to fill your own or for commercial refill)... No need to freeze, etc with a pump.

REFILLING YOUR OWN BOTTLES AT HOME


A brain...
You do NOT need a pump!

1. Check out the big bottle you are filling from. Does it have a siphon tube inside of it? Most do not. If it has leave it somewhere on the floor or preferably higher up if its not too heavy! With the valve at the top. If it's higher up than the bottle to be filled it will flow more easily into it. Remember you want the LIQUID out of it not the gas so if like most bottles it DOES NOT have a siphon tube, this fill bottle MUST be upside down! It does not need to be completely upside down, but the valve will need to be a little lower than the "bottom" of the bottle. Maybe 15 Degrees is enough. However you organise this, it must allow the LIQUID Nitrous to come out not the Gaseous Nitrous.

2. Connect a pipe (small bore nylon, bit of braided hose, or whatever) that is 1 to 2 meters long to the valve. Ready to connect up to the bottle you intend to fill up - but don't connect this yet!

3. Take the EMPTY bottle you need to refill and weigh it! Write it down. Learn it, and in any case it should be stamped on the bottle... But you MUST KNOW IT!

4. Now stick it in your deep freeze! Preferably the night before. Seriously. You need the bottle you are filling up to be colder than your big fill bottle. Because you need LIQUID Nitrous! Since they will be connected together, the pressure in both will be almost the same. The bottle to be filled will be lower down physically, (on the floor?) so its pressure will be slightly higher when the valves are opened. The pressure and temperature difference will ensure that your bottle will fill properly with liquid when you open the two valves.

5. Take you ice cold bottle out of the freezer, and connect it up to the big fill bottle that's waiting! Lay it on your "Bathroom Scales", or Spring Balance so you can see the weight...

6. On the bottle will be stamped the "full" weight, or the amount it holds... Open the valves, you will hear the Nitrous rushing in. When the CORRECT amount of Nitrous has filled your once empty bottle STOP! And disconnect.

DO NOT OVERFILL!
Its actually easy to get say, 3lb in a 2.5lb bottle or 18lb into a 14lb bottle, but its not big and its not clever! The extra space is DESIGNED to be there! Its expansion space and its important!
You don't want to see what happens if a blow off / overpressure valve fails to work...
Your house will be no more...
You will be no more!

Source: http://www.diy-nitrous.fsnet.co.uk/nitrous-n20--refills.htm

I have 100lbs of medical grade nitous and a handy ny-trous refilling station at my disposal............................hmm maybe I need to do a little blue/red bottle install.

Look's good :ro) :driver:

The pump (alone) will run you about $450-500 if you can get it by itself from Edelbrock, or Holley (NOS). I have 2,(one is a backup) and fill often. It's been a while since I've had the need to fill so I need to get my mother bottles recharged. I used to fill for $3.50 lb.

As for freezing, it's always a good idea, but not nessecery with a pump. Required normally if just transfer filling.

SD, just a heads up about the label, most companies install the label on the bottle opposite of the pickup tube inside so consumers make sure to install the bottle in the brackets the right way. No biggie as long as the consumer always has the valve outlet pointed down for the most part (assuming the bottle supplier install the tube correctly).

Also, I don't see it in the picture, but most companies offer a little brass wedged nut to intall the nozzle in the intake tube (mostly used for plastic intakes but can also use on the metal as it gives the nozzle more threads to grab. Not a biggie for those that have your manifold, but for those that don't could make things easier for them. Just some thoughts.

I inform all the customers which way the bottle should be going for the picK up to work correctly. That way they can put the labels any way they want on it. I also ask the customer (if I don't know them) how they are going to mount the nozzle, and I will make provisions if needed.