Why is it in the new diesel mag that the ford is 3 or 400 pounds heavier and less horses and tq than the max and still out pulls it with a load behind, by a good bit. Dont they have the same gearing also? So, some of you smarter folks on here tell me this.

I'll take a swipe at this one. IIRC Ford has an option for a 4:10 rear end over the standard 3:73 like we share stock. Gives you more towing capacity. I would suspect these are the numbers they are advertising. They also changed the suspension to improve the ride. :rolleyes:

IIRC Ford trucks underwent several changes in the 05 model year that boosted their towing capacity and improved the ride. :) JJ

sounds like we need to send the max peeps to the ford plant to take lessons

IIRC, the sick point oh, revs higher than the DMAX. It makes that slight difference in pulling.

John

alright this is driving me nuts...


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sounds like we need to send the max peeps to the ford plant to take lessons

Hardly, wouldnt want any of that 6.0 P(os)SD jiz to rub off on them.

Also, do you always believe what the magazines tell you? I mean think about it, one of them named the lightweight Toyota Tundra as “Truck of the Year”

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Granted, a <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:time Hour="16" Minute="10">4:10</st1:time> rear will make the difference. If they tested that against our 3:73 then shame on them or a least they should have pointed it out.

Don't the Fords have taller tire/wheel combinations stock as well. That should give them even more of a dissadvantage.

DEWFPO

Actually, I believe Ford's Torqueshift tranny has a lower gear ratio in some of the gears, compared to the Allison. There was a thread on this awhile back and it compared the two different gear ratios of the trannys. That will make a big difference in acceleration, along with a higher revving engine and 4.10 rears.

Dan

Yeah, they have the 4:10, but don't they also have larger tires on them. Wouldn't that even it out a bit?....maybe that and the tranny like StraitDiesel said all makes the difference. There's so much that can be done to get bragging rights including up-tuning them......none of it makes a whole lot of sense to me.

I saw that bit about the Tundra too, but I'm sure they were limiting it to the 1/2 ton class of trucks. Say what you want......the Tundra is a good little truck for it's class IMHO.

Well i drove the super duty before i bought the chevy and i can tell you this, there is no comparison in power between the duramax and the 6.0, the duramax has a ton morepower, also the on the ford the turbo is in boost more than the max, i guess its to make up for the smaller displacement. In my opinion there's no comparison between the ford and the cheve, the chevy wins.:ro)

I also drove several new Fords, and a couple of Dodges as well. Considering the whole "package", I found the Chevy tough to beat. And FWIW, my last truck was a Ford, and I really liked it......