Got em in last friday and fogs are on order. Love these things...wish Ive done em sooner. First on is of HID in left and regular in right.


** EDIT ** DO NOT BUY DDM TUNING HIDS....read entire thread as to why

Where did you get them and how much

Do a search for ddm tuning. They have the lost prices Ive seen. Just ordered mine a few day ago to do the highs and lows. Wish I known about this sight when I did the fogs, could have saved some dollars. They also have a lifetime warrenty.

Thats what I got

do you have the 35watt or the 55? i am very interested in the kit from ddm!!

35w

That looks good! definitly something I want to do soon

looks good!! :thumb:

so what color is best? and whitch kit is best? you can PM me if needed.

I like 5000K hence the reason I got em. Do a search in google for DDM Tuning.

bobo, do you have all kinds of kits.?

have any for a goat?

DDM Tuning has HID on back order. The email I got from them was the was suppose to have a shipment in last Thursady. But havent got a confirmation of shippment yet. If I dont get one by Monday Ill email them and see hows it going.

bobo, do you have all kinds of kits.?

have any for a goat?
From what I read in the Forum Operations was that bobo got a week "vacation". So he should be back in a few days. Send him a PM. Check out DDM Tuning and they have a place to cross reference bulbs.

I like 5000K hence the reason I got em. Do a search in google for DDM Tuning.
Well, I like the color of 16oook but the 5k from the drivers picture looks awesome.
DDM's site really doesn't explain the difference in the 35/55w kits as far as function.

Well, I like the color of 16oook but the 5k from the drivers picture looks awesome.
DDM's site really doesn't explain the difference in the 35/55w kits as far as function.
What is the difference?

are they Apexcone or DDM brand ?

DDM brand

This is whats on there site.
"This system provides 3200-3400 Lumens at 35 watts and an amazing 5000 Lumens at 55 watts per bulb. In comparison, a typical halogen bulb produces 900-1200 lumens. The 55W system ballasts are about 1 cm longer than the 35W ballasts."

Is there something eles?

Difference is amount of Watts. Then the color. Apexcone makes the bulbs I think and DDM makes the digital ballasts. Thats what I believe. It has Apexcone name on the ballast too. Think might even be a joint venture.

I was wondering about that cause I ordered the DDM brand and Apexcone sent me a invoice.

Apexcone & DDM are essentially the same Company.

I wonder if the 55 watts are going to be too bright for my low beams?

What is the difference?
The color or the wattage ?

I wonder if the 55 watts are going to be too bright for my low beams?

If you're at Stock Height, I think you'd be ok. The only time you'd really bother someone is sitting at a Light or Stop Sign.

35w is not as bright as 55w obviously.

This is for the DDM / Apexcone stuff, because I know their product VERY well....If you get the 35w Kit and want the Brightest Output possible, get the 4500k. If you get the 35w Kit and want some Color, get the 5000k Kit. The 6000k will be Purple-ish and might be too much Color for some people...If you get the 55w Kit and want the Brightest output get the 4500k Kit...BUT due to the fact it is being driven with 55w now, it will appear slightly Yellow-ish, kinda like Halogen Color. So if you want the "35w 4500k Color", but want 55w Ballasts, I suggest getting the 5000k Kit. If you want some Color, get the 6000k Kit. It will still have some Purple in it, but no where near as much as it would if it was being driven at 35w.

is the 55w too hot for our housings?

is the 55w too hot for our housings?

No, in the Low Beams you should be ok, but in the Fogs I'd be careful. 35w in the Fogs is PLENTY. You'll be amazed at how much those things throw out with HID in them.

last ?. there are two kits listed on that web site, one starts @ 59.00 and is listed as a slim DDM and the other is a Apexcone at 44.00 and is not a slim. my ? is whitch one?

last ?. there are two kits listed on that web site, one starts @ 59.00 and is listed as a slim DDM and the other is a Apexcone at 44.00 and is not a slim. my ? is whitch one?

Either one is good. For some reason, out of the 20+ I've ordered with them, I placed all my orders for the less expensive Kits, and they sent me ALL the more expensive ones. This happened for members here that ordered them as well. So place an order for the less expensive Kit, and you got a good shot of getting the more expensive one. :)

Either one is good. For some reason, out of the 20+ I've ordered with them, I placed all my orders for the less expensive Kits, and they sent me ALL the more expensive ones. This happened for members here that ordered them as well. So place an order for the less expensive Kit, and you got a good shot of getting the more expensive one. :)

Damnit

Yeah but my luck they would sent me the cheap ones:rolleyes:

Either way, both Ballasts are good, and are ALOT better than the other "china man BS" that's sold out there.

Either way, both Ballasts are good, and are ALOT better than the other "china man BS" that's sold out there.
Thats what I have in my fogs and I think they are the best thing since peanut butter and banana sandwiches. ;)

No, in the Low Beams you should be ok, but in the Fogs I'd be careful. 35w in the Fogs is PLENTY. You'll be amazed at how much those things throw out with HID in them.


You are correct...:D I have 55watters in my fogs, and cant run them, get flashed during the day.

how hard is it to install these kits? will i have to switch back to my stock housings with the HIDs since i have projector housings?

how hard is it to install these kits? will i have to switch back to my stock housings with the HIDs since i have projector housings?

Couple minute install....I had projectors and they didnt seem to like the HID's I had in there ;) What kind did you buy...most likely the ones on ebay right, seeing there arent any others that I know of for bowties...

Couple minute install....I had projectors and they didnt seem to like the HID's I had in there ;) What kind did you buy...most likely the ones on ebay right, seeing there arent any others that I know of for bowties...

Maybe a couple for the earlier model trucks, but not the new. I had to take out the air box and battery just to get access to my lights. 2 pins on the older models and you got it. Also, I had to reverse polarity on my low beams. The fogs are easy to access on the NBS, but you have to chop off the factory plug because you are using 880 HID's. No big deal, but it's a show stopper if you don't know.

Maybe a couple for the earlier model trucks, but not the new. I had to take out the air box and battery just to get access to my lights. 2 pins on the older models and you got it. Also, I had to reverse polarity on my low beams. The fogs are easy to access on the NBS, but you have to chop off the factory plug because you are using 880 HID's. No big deal, but it's a show stopper if you don't know.

How come you had to chop off the Fog Plug. The 880's come with a Prong on the + / - Wires you just push in the Plug and Tape up. Or does it not work like that on the NBS Plug? I haven't done an NBS Truck yet, so I dunno?

35w is not as bright as 55w obviously.

This is for the DDM / Apexcone stuff, because I know their product VERY well....If you get the 35w Kit and want the Brightest Output possible, get the 4500k. If you get the 35w Kit and want some Color, get the 5000k Kit. The 6000k will be Purple-ish and might be too much Color for some people...If you get the 55w Kit and want the Brightest output get the 4500k Kit...BUT due to the fact it is being driven with 55w now, it will appear slightly Yellow-ish, kinda like Halogen Color. So if you want the "35w 4500k Color", but want 55w Ballasts, I suggest getting the 5000k Kit. If you want some Color, get the 6000k Kit. It will still have some Purple in it, but no where near as much as it would if it was being driven at 35w.

...and if you get the 55w Kit you MUST get the Upgraded Harness for EACH Kit you order (1 Kit, 1 Harness / 2 Kits, 2 Harnesses). It's not needed with the 35w Kits, but it will help.

...and if you get the 55w Kit you MUST get the Upgraded Harness for EACH Kit you order (1 Kit, 1 Harness / 2 Kits, 2 Harnesses). It's not needed with the 35w Kits, but it will help.
Glad you said that. Is this what I need for the 55w kits. "HID Accessory Harness"

Glad you said that. Is this what I need for the 55w kits. "HID Accessory Harness"

Yep.

Thanks for the info. Ill take care of that tomorrow.

Hey Mad Maxx, I got a PM from someone and didnt know how to answer his question. "Did you do the all 6 on headlight mod? I bought the kit and it states to tap the high beam and then the fog. Tybrne on here states he tapped the low beam? Can you clarify? Thanks."

How come you had to chop off the Fog Plug. The 880's come with a Prong on the + / - Wires you just push in the Plug and Tape up. Or does it not work like that on the NBS Plug? I haven't done an NBS Truck yet, so I dunno?

The prongs are too wide for the plug. If you were to grind the sides down, it might work, but since the middle is cut out for the "barb", there's not much to work with and would probably break when trying to push it in the plug. I just chopped off both ends, soldered, and shrink wrapped it.

...and if you get the 55w Kit you MUST get the Upgraded Harness for EACH Kit you order (1 Kit, 1 Harness / 2 Kits, 2 Harnesses). It's not needed with the 35w Kits, but it will help.
I was wondering if that was the same thing as the Kennedy Headlight Booster ?
Say if I go w/ a 35w in the fogs will it be a different color than the rest? I am planning on ordering a 9oo6 set for the lows and a 9oo5 set for each the high 55w and the fog 35w all in 8oook

Hey Mad Maxx, I got a PM from someone and didnt know how to answer his question. "Did you do the all 6 on headlight mod? I bought the kit and it states to tap the high beam and then the fog. Tybrne on here states he tapped the low beam? Can you clarify? Thanks."

I dunno what Kit he bought, because you can use the Sticky at the top of this Section, and do the Mod with stuff from Radio Shack for less than $1.

I was wondering if that was the same thing as the Kennedy Headlight Booster ?
Say if I go w/ a 35w in the fogs will it be a different color than the rest? I am planning on ordering a 9oo6 set for the lows and a 9oo5 set for each the high 55w and the fog 35w all in 8oook

Yea, the 35w driven Bulbs will have more Color.

And no, it's not the same thing as the Kennedy Booster.

congratulations on blinding everyone else on the road :thumb:

i got the DDM.. ordered the 45.99, and got the 59.99. small ass ballasts too. the only thing i had to do was to cut the plug going to the ballast, and switch them, as MAXX has said before GM is the black sheep of the automotive world, headlight wise, and does it backwards from 99.9 percent of the other manufacturers.

i got the 4500 color, and like them...no so much blue, and helps me see the line in the road in the rain....they really help in the fog too.

i would hate to see how freekin bright the 55w ones are :eek:

yea i have the ebay projectors. would i be able to heat up the housings and switch out the side reflectors? only reason i have them is for the clear corner reflectors.

Couple minute install....I had projectors and they didnt seem to like the HID's I had in there ;) What kind did you buy...most likely the ones on ebay right, seeing there arent any others that I know of for bowties...

Just got my fogs today. Will be putting in on Thanksgiving as its funner to do shit to the truck then instead of listening to all the bitching and shit in the house with all the women and in laws. Plus noone steals my beer out there :D

Do it every Thanksgiving and every Christmas Eve. Everyone knows I'll be out there and not to come bitching.

Yea, the 35w driven Bulbs will have more Color.

And no, it's not the same thing as the Kennedy Booster.
That'll work. I'll just do the 35w for all 3 since mine is 6-on on high. No need to overdo everything :D

Did you install them yourself?
Any problems with the install?
Looks so much better.

Yea I did em...its easy as hell. Just reverse the wiring as mentioned and your good. Takes all of bout 1/2 hour. Fogs going in either tomorrow evening with some beer or Thursday while leaving the women inside.

If you have a NBS, plan on the install taking longer. Battery and air box have to come out on the new ones, and isn't nearly as simple as pulling out 2 little pins. It's not hard, just takes more time.

Yea I did em...its easy as hell. Just reverse the wiring as mentioned and your good. Takes all of bout 1/2 hour. Fogs going in either tomorrow evening with some beer or Thursday while leaving the women inside.
What is Richard talking about reversing the wiring? If a kit's for a 9005 bulb it should work w/o modification shouldn't it ? You have to cut the DDM wiring or yours ?

What is Richard talking about reversing the wiring? If a kit's for a 9005 bulb it should work w/o modification shouldn't it ? You have to cut the DDM wiring or yours ?

You will have to try it and see if it works as a plug-n-play should. If it doesn't fire up, you reverse the polarity of the wires, and it's usually done on the DDM wiring harness. I can't vouch for the 9005, but the H11 and DDM kit did need to be reversed, and DDM supplies a spare harness. The reversing is done on that harness, if it's needed.

Just put 8000k's in mine and love them.. never goin back to halogens they look dim compared to these.

What is Richard talking about reversing the wiring? If a kit's for a 9005 bulb it should work w/o modification shouldn't it ? You have to cut the DDM wiring or yours ?
When you get the kit it has an extra harness in it that goes from your factory wiring to the ballast. All you do is cut the red and black (only 2 wires) and then connect black to red and vice versa on that same harness. Its simple and east. I will take pics tonight or tomorrow of my fog install and show everyone.

Just ordered a set of 6k's with the harness. Can't wait to install!

<<<<<<<<<<<< Thought that was Mike for a second

<<<<<<<<<<<< Thought that was Mike for a second

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Sorry for the ongoing confusion...I have changed my avatar back to my Small Munsterlander...

Just put these bitches in and they dont EVEN come close in color. Have called DDM and sending them pics so we will see if they stand behind there product. You tell me if the match....both 5000K's so they say.


http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/brittchris06/P1030456.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/brittchris06/P1030468.jpg

They look like 5000K's starting but thats it...once they warm up this is it :mad:

The Reflector Optics are prob. throwing the Color off. They look a lil Gold, but it could be that the Pics are from when it's light out and not night, so I can't really tell, or like I said, could be Reflector Optics.

I know there's the Shield inside your Fogs, so it could be picking up the Gold Color from them now, since the Light is alot more Intense now, and that could be messing the Color up as well.

Here's a Pic of my friends Denali I did. 10k in the Lows & Fogs, and look how much of a Color difference there is.

Heres evening time. Might try and see if I can get that reflector out...I had thought about that too. Wonder if I went upto 6000K if it would be same or actually match.


http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/brittchris06/P1030472.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/brittchris06/P1030473.jpg

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/brittchris06/P1030469.jpg

HAHA now this is even funnier...... Ok not reflector I guess.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/brittchris06/P1030475.jpg


They just responded and sent them these pics. I think they will do good. Hey mistakes happen I guess. Either way they are great product so far in my headlights. Wonder what these colors are though? Maxx what you guess? 3500K or 4300K's?

Yea, now that's it's darker out now, and you got some output Pics, those are def. 3000k Bulbs.

im getting ready to order my DDM kits. one kit does one bulb correct? and do i order the 9005 bulb for the fogs?

The DDM kit has 2 bulbs, 2 ballasts, 2 starters, and 2 spare harnesses. It's a set.

sweet, thanks

ordered!

Talked to DDM yesterday and am sending my fogs back and they re shipping correct ones hopefully. Still love these headlight though. I tell you everyone should get these. Its night and day difference....if not for looks alone then at least for safety.

:ro) Yea, they'll get the right ones out to you.

about to order hid's from ddm. just to clarify, if i get the 55w 9006 6k for my lows, i need to order the hid accessary harness at the bottom of the page for an extra $20? and if so, the reason being???

about to order hid's from ddm. just to clarify, if i get the 55w 9006 6k for my lows, i need to order the hid accessary harness at the bottom of the page for an extra $20? and if so, the reason being???

That's correct...do a search, you'll find your answer on the harness.

....I STILL don't get why people are arguing the issue of not running a Harness. :nono:

probably trying to save a buck. i rather pay extra and do it right the 1st time. but if it isn't necessary, then why waste the cash. thanks, i'm going to go order now

can you put these in projection housings ? and if so will they work right ? and also how about running hids in the driving lights or are they foglamps ( i would say driving lights ) they are on a 08 lmm gmc ( 2 round lights in the front bumper )

probably trying to save a buck. i rather pay extra and do it right the 1st time. but if it isn't necessary, then why waste the cash. thanks, i'm going to go order now

It is 100% needed if you get the 55w kits. 1 member here already had problems because they didn't order them, then nothing would work....Then what happens next? The company gets a bad rep, but in reality, if they would have just order the harness like is needed, there would have been no problems at all.

can you put these in projection housings ? and if so will they work right ? and also how about running hids in the driving lights or are they foglamps ( i would say driving lights ) they are on a 08 lmm gmc ( 2 round lights in the front bumper )

It's hit or miss with the Projector Lights.

Yes, you can run them in the Fogs. There is a Thread in the DIY Section on how to make them work.

~~~Alot of these Questions being asked have already been answered MORE THAN ONCE in these HID Threads. READ THEM, and you will find every answer you will need~~~

I promise your Computers won't Blow Up either if you click the Search Button ;)

That's correct...do a search, you'll find your answer on the harness.

....I STILL don't get why people are arguing the issue of not running a Harness. :nono:
You diffently need the harness like he says. I hooked one without the harness just to see what it looked like and they were about like stock. And dont do like I did, 1 harness goes to the lows and 1 to the highs.:o: The lights will tie into the harness and the harness will need to be hooked to the battery. The plugs on the harness that ties into you lights, one wouldnt fits for I cut em off and wired em together. Dont remember if it was the highs or lows.

just ordered. total costs of 55w ($54.95) with harness ($20) shipped ($16.10) came out to $91.05

I didnt get harness and all is good for mine (35W). Guess its hit and miss but like Maxx said absolutely a must for 55W. I didnt have em for fogs either.

Maxx I agree with search button...lol.

I ran these 880's for a week in the fogs and much to my surprise they havent built up as much heat as I expected so thats a good thing...wont have to vent my fog lamp housing...least not yet since I was given the 3500K's and not the 5000K's. We will see.

I didnt get harness and all is good for mine (35W). Guess its hit and miss but like Maxx said absolutely a must for 55W. I didnt have em for fogs either.

Maxx I agree with search button...lol.

I ran these 880's for a week in the fogs and much to my surprise they havent built up as much heat as I expected so thats a good thing...wont have to vent my fog lamp housing...least not yet since I was given the 3500K's and not the 5000K's. We will see.

It's only the Color Temp. that changes, the actual Heat put out by the Bulb will stay the same, so you'll be good. :)

Anyone check out the pricing on the DDM kits lately? They keep going down, and now I'm going to be forced to buy HID's for the rest of my fleet.

Anyone check out the pricing on the DDM kits lately? They keep going down, and now I'm going to be forced to buy HID's for the rest of my fleet.

Think they're cheap now? Wait til '09 ;)

If they keep going down might replace my HID fogs with 55w too.:D

All I'm gonna say is I heard of a $30 Price Tag in '09. And it was the Company themselves that said it, not just someone starting a Rumor.

You must be pretty tight with these people. Bet they have been pretty happy with you lately.;)

Looks like I'll add the ATV's and the Deere tractor to that list now.

Don't forget the lawnmower. Oh yeah, and the vacuum cleaner.:D

Hell yea...they make HID Kit's for Quads. ;)

That's correct...do a search, you'll find your answer on the harness.

....I STILL don't get why people are arguing the issue of not running a Harness. :nono:
Probably since for me it would be $60 more. But I'll pay it if they work as they're supposed to.

Probably since for me it would be $60 more. But I'll pay it if they work as they're supposed to.

$60 more is a small Price to pay versus starting an Electrical Fire and Burning the Truck to the Ground. :eek:

Well Im planning on swapping out my 55w lows for 35w since they are too bright. I was wonder since one of my ballast stopped working on my fogs. Can I run the 55w in our fogs? I saw on DDM`s website says theyare not recommended for smaller fog light housings. Is our consider smaller and will they be too bright down there? Also I like to color of my 5000k fogs. Doesnt the higher watts change the color of the bulbs? So will I need like a 6k or a 8k bulbs with a 55w ballast to be blue like the 5k 35w setup?

All I'm gonna say is I heard of a $30 Price Tag in '09. And it was the Company themselves that said it, not just someone starting a Rumor.

Any idea how far into 2009? I'm looking to order some lights but if they're going to drop the price I'll wait 3 weeks :D

Any idea how far into 2009? I'm looking to order some lights but if they're going to drop the price I'll wait 3 weeks :D

No.

Ok James what ya think bout THIS now :mad:

Just my luck but they are different colors...were fine for couple weeks and now this. Just sent my fogs back cause they sent me wrong ones too. Getting irritated with these. You can tell ALOT more in person as my wife even said something bout em.

BTW - Im NOT blaming you either in case I came across that way... ;)

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76949&d=1229210547

Ok James what ya think bout THIS now :mad:

Just my luck but they are different colors...were fine for couple weeks and now this. Just sent my fogs back cause they sent me wrong ones too. Getting irritated with these. You can tell ALOT more in person as my wife even said something bout em.

BTW - Im NOT blaming you either in case I came across that way... ;)

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=76949&d=1229210547
Yeah you can tell the difference in the color. What are they saying?

8.1HD: Which HID kits are these? the raptor, ddm, or the Apexcone? I can't remember if you said which ones these are?

I'd say the one on the Left looks like a 55w 4300k while the one on the Right looks like a 8-10k 55w.

...But when you got them they looked the same Color right? So they Colorshifted already and one Shifted more dramatically than the other.

As much as I hate to say it, recently, I have seen ALOT of people getting sent the Incorrect Bulbs, Ballasts, ect... I "think" it may be because of the Holiday Rush..I hope...but you'd think a Company that moves as much Volume as DDM does (where they sell out of pretty much everything they got in stock by the week) would have things under control better and get the correct items sent out.

However...I do have another HID seller that is used by my fellow HID Retrofitters that they recommend...so if you are interested YOU PM ME for the Info.

Not to leave ya'll "high and dry" for the Kit's I linked everyone to, I feel bad now, because I never had a problem with them, but it seems like when things really pick up for them, they kinda "drop the ball".

well, I was gonna wait till after the first of the year anyway. I guess I'll see about the other place if it's not just the holiday rush; maybe that's what it is though

well, I was gonna wait till after the first of the year anyway. I guess I'll see about the other place if it's not just the holiday rush; maybe that's what it is though

I really hope it is. These guys are good to deal with, but like I said, it just seems lately they REALLY dropped the ball.

Ok, so I'm looking at ordering kits to do my low, high, and fog lights.

My question is what kit do I get for my foglights?

I'd say the one on the Left looks like a 55w 4300k while the one on the Right looks like a 8-10k 55w.

...But when you got them they looked the same Color right? So they Colorshifted already and one Shifted more dramatically than the other.

As much as I hate to say it, recently, I have seen ALOT of people getting sent the Incorrect Bulbs, Ballasts, ect... I "think" it may be because of the Holiday Rush..I hope...but you'd think a Company that moves as much Volume as DDM does (where they sell out of pretty much everything they got in stock by the week) would have things under control better and get the correct items sent out.

However...I do have another HID seller that is used by my fellow HID Retrofitters that they recommend...so if you are interested YOU PM ME for the Info.

Not to leave ya'll "high and dry" for the Kit's I linked everyone to, I feel bad now, because I never had a problem with them, but it seems like when things really pick up for them, they kinda "drop the ball".

They are both 35W 5000K's. They did look great untill last night driving home I noticed that crap. These are the DDM Slims. I pulled the bulbs out and saw some funky looking crap in the oval tube in middle of bulb like it was a milky white substance. Im sure this is the problem but have no idea what it is. Im just afraid DDM is gonna tell me to ****** off because this is second time Ive had to call back about their mistakes. We will see tomorrow.

Dont feel bad James for telling us....we all made the decision to go with them by ourselves...werent forced. Its just like everything else these days and only going to get worse.....bad economy = cheaper quality products. Not always but Im seeing more and more everyday.

Heres a pic of what I found in the bulb...camera wont get super close but hopefully can still tell. Im sure this is going to be my fault somehow too. Look closely at bulb on right at mis coloration inside bulb.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77000&d=1229291972

That's correct...do a search, you'll find your answer on the harness.

....I STILL don't get why people are arguing the issue of not running a Harness. :nono:

I did NOT use a harness and mine are fine.

Its normal to have bulb coloration in the middle.

I did NOT use a harness and mine are fine.
Are your running 55w. I tried one of my lows without the harness and it come on a dull yellow.

Are your running 55w. I tried one of my lows without the harness and it come on a dull yellow.

50W ballast. Maybe the wiring is a little thicker in the LMM. My lows are 35W, High are 50W, fog are 35W. Check your voltage at the wires. The ballasts are to work at 9.6V (according to the label at a cost of higher amperage draw). My voltage is 12.78 at the wires with the truck off.

Yeah Im running 55w in the highs and lows. The other day one of my ballast stopped working. So I was thinking bout ordering a 35w kits to replace with my lows and drop the 55w ballasts down to the fogs. Do you think they will be too hot, if so would it help the vent the housing?

Yeah Im running 55w in the highs and lows. The other day one of my ballast stopped working. So I was thinking bout ordering a 35w kits to replace with my lows and drop the 55w ballasts down to the fogs. Do you think they will be too hot, if so would it help the vent the housing?


I am using the aftermarket headlamps. See my garage. When both units come on (high and low) you are drawing a lot of current.

Go on ebay. Seller HQZ4321. He is local to me in MD here. Has complete HID kits for $59. They are not junk. I use them.

Just use 35W low, 50W high, and 35 Fog.

So back on topic here what are those discolorations from? Would that cause this?

So back on topic here what are those discolorations from? Would that cause this?


The discolorations in the center bulb are normal. They add a small amount of a metal to react with the arc. A red metal i believe makes the light cobalt colored. A yellow metal makes white. Complete fogging in the center bulb means a poorly made bulb. Running a 35W bulb on a steroided 50W ballast (thats what they are - modified) you shorten the life of the bulb with more current/voltage going through.

So back on topic here what are those discolorations from? Would that cause this?
I see the discoloration between the bulbs. I know when I tested mine after got everything hooked up. The high and low are coming off the same wiring harness. When the highs are on the lows turn alil more yellow. Have you tried the one that is yellow by itself?

Wonder if ya got an answer about the bulbs?

This IS BULLSHIT. I just recieved my fogs back and low and behold they ARE SAME DAMN YELLOW COLOR! That reason I sent em back. Now I got same damn things AGAIN! These are 880's and same as before...look at pics. They even said 5K on box but was a sticker over something they took off. I swear if any of you buy from DDM TUNING your retarded. These are junk. Im calling after holidays and wanting a refund on all of em since they all suck ass. Guess you get what you pay for. Idiots.

Do ballasts cause discoloration in lighting? If not Im junking these POS's and buying new bulbs. They are all same connection correct? To hell with DDM and their shitty product/sales.


Whos got bulbs with NO problems and where u get em? You can post links now.

This IS BULLSHIT. I just recieved my fogs back and low and behold they ARE SAME DAMN YELLOW COLOR! That reason I sent em back. Now I got same damn things AGAIN! These are 880's and same as before...look at pics. They even said 5K on box but was a sticker over something they took off. I swear if any of you buy from DDM TUNING your retarded. These are junk. Im calling after holidays and wanting a refund on all of em since they all suck ass. Guess you get what you pay for. Idiots.
Crap......Wish you would have known this yesterday. Cause thats when I ordered 35w Lows and Fogs. One of the ballast for my fogs stoped work. Well I might be calling em too. We"ll see next week.:(

This IS BULLSHIT. I just recieved my fogs back and low and behold they ARE SAME DAMN YELLOW COLOR! That reason I sent em back. Now I got same damn things AGAIN! These are 880's and same as before...look at pics. They even said 5K on box but was a sticker over something they took off. I swear if any of you buy from DDM TUNING your retarded. These are junk. Im calling after holidays and wanting a refund on all of em since they all suck ass. Guess you get what you pay for. Idiots.


DDM Tuning out of San Diego area?? Oh my. I have heard nothing but tons of complaints from them. Go look on ebay. Seller Hqz4321. He is a nice guy. Local to me. Top quality kits.

DDM Tuning out of San Diego area?? Oh my. I have heard nothing but tons of complaints from them. Go look on ebay. Seller Hqz4321. He is a nice guy. Local to me. Top quality kits.

Yea, but before all these problems, I was dealing with them in large Quantity, and NEVER had 1 problem.

I recommended them to the guys here and now there is nothing but problems, even with people on other Forums I am on are having problems with them.

I don't know what it is, or what to say? :(

But yea, that HQZ guy is good. He's out of MD right? The HID Bulbs I'm running RIGHT NOW in my Fogs are from him. They are good, both the same Color and CORRECT Color ;)

Another good guy for 50w Kits is "yourhid".

Yea that place. Tried your seller and he has nothing listed. Blank. Goddamn all I wanted was for all my lights to match....guess its too hard for people to do anything right these days. Damn headlights are *****ed up now too. "Send em back and we will test em and send you another pair". 2 1/2 week turnaround. Just what I wanted to do. Play some gay ass game of how many times I can send your shit back and receive junk in return. They are going to be outta business with S&H here soon.

Need some good HID bulbs only.....if ballast are all same. Guess if they turn on they are good right?

Does the Bulb you got from DDM look like this? This is what a 3000k Bulb looks like. Does it have the ION Coating on it, or is it totally Clear?

Its clear with darker colored pin going up side. I look like a damn carnival going down the street now with my lows going too :(

Well ALL 3000k HID Bulbs have that ION Coating on them. Every 3000k Bulb I have here has the Coating on it, and all the ones I've Installed have it. You can't achieve a 3000k Color without it.

So you def. don't have 3000k Bulbs there.

I know I know, you showed the Pic of BOTH Lights out in the open outside of the Housings, but if you don't have the ION Coating on the Bulb, it's not a 3000k.

So maybe its a 4xxxK or my others are higher than 5000K. I dont know but I know they dont match and it looks stupid as hell. I dont see bad ballast making this color change but will try what you told me to do.

The Ballast could be bad in the sense, that it's not even putting out 35w. It could be putting out like 20w or so, thus not letting the Bulb get up to Temperature for all the Salts to mix with the Arc.

The Ballast could be bad in the sense, that it's not even putting out 35w. It could be putting out like 20w or so, thus not letting the Bulb get up to Temperature for all the Salts to mix with the Arc.
Dont know if he has tried but swap bulbs and see what happens. How can you test the ballast? Cause I think my fog light one has gone bad. I have power going to it but none coming out.

Dont know if he has tried but swap bulbs and see what happens. How can you test the ballast? Cause I think my fog light one has gone bad. I have power going to it but none coming out.

I've never had the balls to test the output of a Ballast. There's something about that 20,000+ Volts that gets me. ;)

I've never had the balls to test the output of a Ballast. There's something about that 20,000+ Volts that gets me. ;)
Oh......Well I have been think of opening it up to see why it wasnt giving no power.

FYI this is what the beams should look like - Mine are true 6000K (measured 5820 with the light spectrum meter)

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garageimage.php?do=full&p=80798&d=1229656386

Also the color depends on the ballast used. Lower current from a ballast means a deeper blue and darker light coming out. A cheap ballast will produce a varied color. It is best to go with a good ballast. The ones I am using are all from HQZ4321 on ebay.

Oh......Well I have been think of opening it up to see why it wasnt giving no power.

Ever accidentally touch the spark plug wire on the lawnmower as a kid? You will know where I am coming from.:D

Ever accidentally touch the spark plug wire on the lawnmower as a kid? You will know where I am coming from.:D
Hell I still unplug the coil wire off a distributor cap.:crazy:

Hqz4321 Has no items for sale?

Hqz4321 Has no items for sale?

I just spoke to him earlier today when I was at his store. He said something about listing new items soon. He runs a regular physical store in Glen Burnie MD. Just send him a message.

hqz4321@gmail.com

Well put the fogs on the headlight ballast and its same crappy color so Im guessing no bad ballasts. I'll be calling thses dumbasses today and tell em to mark it on my chart and deal with it after the holidays since it takes soooo damn long to get them back (week there, week back) and I need em for holiday travel in the mountains. Guess I'll just look like a rolling frekkin circus going down the road in the meantime.


BTW - Noticed when I recieved the package too that the wire on outside of bulb running from top to bottom is broke in middle but still lights and looks like the other one. WTH is this piece?

Well put the fogs on the headlight ballast and its same crappy color so Im guessing no bad ballasts. I'll be calling thses dumbasses today and tell em to mark it on my chart and deal with it after the holidays since it takes soooo damn long to get them back (week there, week back) and I need em for holiday travel in the mountains. Guess I'll just look like a rolling frekkin circus going down the road in the meantime.


BTW - Noticed when I recieved the package too that the wire on outside of bulb running from top to bottom is broke in middle but still lights and looks like the other one. WTH is this piece?

That's the Return Wire. If it's broke, the Bulb wouldn't Light. It's prob. just the Ceramic Sleeve over it that is broke. It's ok, it happens on OEM HID Bulbs as well. Doesn't effect anything.

Holly Crapola GetSome, I feel like a complete dumbass, I just ordered my stuff from DDM the other day. After reading your problems, I think I need to call and cancel my order. Who else has about the same price without all the hassles?

Are any of you that switched to HID's had any problems with on coming cars flashing you? Ive always wanted to switch to HID's but have been nervous about blinding on-coming traffic! Or, is it pretty safe with the 35w bulbs? I was going to upgrate my housing to projections and then add the HID's, but Im not real crazy about the look and price of what's out there.......

Are any of you that switched to HID's had any problems with on coming cars flashing you? Ive always wanted to switch to HID's but have been nervous about blinding on-coming traffic! Or, is it pretty safe with the 35w bulbs? I was going to upgrate my housing to projections and then add the HID's, but Im not real crazy about the look and price of what's out there.......

Just re-aim the Headlights after the Install, and you'll be ok.

Just re-aim the Headlights after the Install, and you'll be ok.

Exactly. Do that and you will be fine. Look at my garage pics for the beam pattern you want.

Here's a Response I got on one of my Lighting Forums as to what the Deal is with DDM:

I'll tell you exactly what's causing this. In the office that they work out of, there are 5 desks. 4 of which are occupied by kids under 23. There is one single "Manager" there whom is about 50.

The people that work there are pretty clueless. If you ask them a question, they usually just feed you a line that they have rehearsed. Regardless, they have a pretty lol-tacular setup. They have a back storeroom area where they keep the product, but I have no idea how much they actually ship out.

Exactly. Do that and you will be fine. Look at my garage pics for the beam pattern you want.
How do you re-aim the NBS headlights?

How do you re-aim the NBS headlights?

The torx screw at the top of each headlight. Simple.

The torx screw at the top of each headlight. Simple.
Hummm....Didnt know that we could adjust ours. I know what Im bout to do.

Hummm....Didnt know that we could adjust ours. I know what Im bout to do.

Keep the 55w'ers in there and just re-aim? :D

Keep the 55w'ers in there and just re-aim? :D
Thats what I was thinking. Might be sending a 35w kit back.

Thats what I was thinking. Might be sending a 35w kit back.

Noooo!! Keep it, or sell it to one of the Members here that got a messed up Order.

Noooo!! Keep it, or sell it to one of the Members here that got a messed up Order.
That work. Ill adjust these and my ride home before Christmas will be enough to see if Ill keep them in. One way or another Ill have a extra 35w or 55w.

So, is Getsome and Jtaylor the only one having issues with DDM? Knock on wood, I've been pleased with mine, even though one of the lows will shut off sometime. Think it's a short I haven't tracked down.

BTW, Getsome, I like that circus look. I think you ought to keep it.:D jk

So, is Getsome and Jtaylor the only one having issues with DDM? Knock on wood, I've been pleased with mine, even though one of the lows will shut off sometime. Think it's a short I haven't tracked down.

BTW, Getsome, I like that circus look. I think you ought to keep it.:D jk
Im have had an issue with them. Mine is just the 55w are too bright for the lows. :D Im going to adjust the highlights down to see if that help enough.

Ive had problems with every single one Ive got from them. Im the type of guy if I buy something it best damn work. Granted they are cheap as hell but comon at least give me year of use AND THE RIGHT COLOR.

Im not going back to them. Im gonna try for a reimbursement and if that dont happen Im telling to test the goodamn things there to make sure they match first. If I still get wrong color Im gonna send em a piece of shit (literally....ask anyone that knows me) in the box to be mailed back.

Maxx you are dead on on they dont know shit there. They tell me same thing EVERYTIME. "We have to test em out first". BULLSHIT. I just sent you a picture u dumbass. Ive had these bulbs in the mail more than in my truck.

I making a separate thread so noone buys from there anymore. Its amazing people/business's dont realize what the power of service does.

I will cut my looses with them if need be after I receive a new set. I want the best of the best now with no more BS. I knew I should have done that first but didnt. ;)

I guess the torx screw is the white plastic one on top?

I guess the torx screw is the white plastic one on top?

You got it.

Has anyone sent them a link to this thread starting at around post 66? I tried sending them 2 emails after no delivery for 2+ weeks only to get an email saying something to the effect "We're too busy to check our email ...". I ordered 2 sets of 35w 5K's for lows and fogs ...9006's and H10's respectively. While the box should be on my door step Monday I don't have a warm and fuzzy on the lights working or looking the same color.

Has anyone sent them a link to this thread starting at around post 66? I tried sending them 2 emails after no delivery for 2+ weeks only to get an email saying something to the effect "We're too busy to check our email ...". I ordered 2 sets of 35w 5K's for lows and fogs ...9006's and H10's respectively. While the box should be on my door step Monday I don't have a warm and fuzzy on the lights working or looking the same color.

FWIW, mine were back ordered for a week, and took about another week for the shipping. Didn't you get an e-mail for the back order?

I believe the 2009 come with them now mine look HID to me..

No, never received an email one and checked the order status daily for over 10 days without an update. Sent them 2 emails and no reply. I finally called them and got to talk to an actual person and was told they had just run out of the style I ordered right when they got to my order and more were due in within the next few days. A few more days went by and I eventually got an email indicating they shipped. I don't mind waiting as long as the status is communicated which it wasn't. Now if they show up and aren't the correct lights, don't work or look different colors I'm not going to be happy. Since I don't have them yet I will give them the benefit of the doubt at this point. Time will tell.

FWIW, mine were back ordered for a week, and took about another week for the shipping. Didn't you get an e-mail for the back order?

No, never received an email one and checked the order status daily for over 10 days without an update. Sent them 2 emails and no reply. I finally called them and got to talk to an actual person and was told they had just run out of the style I ordered right when they got to my order and more were due in within the next few days. A few more days went by and I eventually got an email indicating they shipped. I don't mind waiting as long as the status is communicated which it wasn't. Now if they show up and aren't the correct lights, don't work or look different colors I'm not going to be happy. Since I don't have them yet I will give them the benefit of the doubt at this point. Time will tell.

Do you think they're going out of business? When I got my back order notice, it just told me they deal in volume, and didn't read anything else into it. You'll get your order in due time. Wondering if the order is screwed up does what for you? Relax, sip another single malt, and quit worrying and speculating over nothing you have no control over. It's just a web transaction like everyone else does.

I'm not worrying, really :) I did have some concern after seeing all the anti-DMM postings now that I have ordered. Like I said earlier, I'll reserve judgement until I get them in hand. All I was saying above is their communication skills are lacking. If they don't want to respond to emails, well the shouldn't have an email address.

Do you think they're going out of business? When I got my back order notice, it just told me they deal in volume, and didn't read anything else into it. You'll get your order in due time. Wondering if the order is screwed up does what for you? Relax, sip another single malt, and quit worrying and speculating over nothing you have no control over. It's just a web transaction like everyone else does.

I'm not worrying, really :) I did have some concern after seeing all the anti-DMM postings now that I have ordered. Like I said earlier, I'll reserve judgement until I get them in hand. All I was saying above is their communication skills are lacking. If they don't want to respond to emails, well the shouldn't have an email address.

Well, I guess I won't mention the fact the billed me before it even shipped.:eek:

Yes, their customer service does lack, but in the end, I think you'll be pleased. At least I was. Don't let 1 individuals displeasure overshadow your anticipation. Again, I think you'll be pleased once you get them. I'm sure you'll let me know if you're not.:D

Good luck fellas...Im on third set

Here's a thought. I was doing some more Searching and found another person having a problem with the Bulbs becoming 2 different Colors from one another.

Check the Wattage of your Ballasts...if you ordered a 35w Kit, you MIGHT have been shipped a 55w Kit, thus making the Color not what it should be. Because as i said earlier in these Threads, the more Wattage you put to the Bulbs, the Color gets washed out.

Hook up a voltmeter to the 2 little output wires to the bulbs from the ballast? Mine were fine for a month before they changed on me and have no probs firing except a little flicker here and there.

No, look at the Sticker on the Ballast. It'll say Output Wattage or something like that. See if it says 35w or 55w.

35

Ok, because I saw another Thread for DDM over on another Site, that someone was saying their Bulbs Color-Shifted to opposite Colors, and one thing was suggested that maybe that person got sent 55w Ballasts instead of 35w.

So I figured I'd pass that on to yuo too, to see if that might have been the case.

I got my DDM lights today ...H10's for fogs and 9006's for lows, both 35w in the 5K's. I only installed the fogs today and thought I would make everyone aware of the deal with swapping polarity on the wires. Based on what I've read some are using the extra harness that comes with factory plug on one end and the bare spades on the other end where they are simply sliding the spades into the OEM plug and taping. I think a few people have also cut the factory plug and swapped the wires around.

If you want a completely plug/play connection with/out using the DDM harness or cutting the OEM connector ... simply REMOVE the OEM wires from the plug and swap. It's simple! Just remove the wire strain relief around the rear of the OEM plug then take a very small jewlers screw driver or large paperclip and insert into the squarish hole of each terminal to release then slowly pull the terminal out from the rear by pulling on the wire. If it doesn't release, push terminal back in and try again. Don't pull HARD. When it releases you will know/feel it. There is a separate area/hole inboard, next to the female terminal slot that you want to insert the screwdriver/paperclip into. Once you look at the face of the plug you will see what I am trying to describe :)

By inserting something small and round into the terminal it will release a detent that locks it into the plug. I knew this in advance as I've done the same thing on my Harley in the past. You can even practice removing the pins using the DDM harness since the plug/terminals are exactly the same. Push the pins as far into the connector as possible before attempting to release the detent. This makes it really easy to depress the detent on the pin. Otherwise if you pull on the wires from the rear when trying to release it, it will be difficult as you will be putting pressure on the detect making it difficult to release.

My 5K H10's look really bright and are the same color ...although I only ran them for a few minutes and have no time on them driving the truck. May put the lows in later or tomorrow.


When you get the kit it has an extra harness in it that goes from your factory wiring to the ballast. All you do is cut the red and black (only 2 wires) and then connect black to red and vice versa on that same harness. Its simple and east. I will take pics tonight or tomorrow of my fog install and show everyone.

It still makes no sense to me why a supposed plug and play unit you have to cut/ swap wires on.

It still makes no sense to me why a supposed plug and play unit you have to cut/ swap wires on.

Because with most Halogen Bulbs, Polarity doesn't matter. As long as it goes in one side of the Filament and out the other, it'll Light. But with HID's, it's the Ballast that NEEDS the Polarity to be correct. Some Vehicles have the Wires already in the correct Spots on the Plug, some don't.

so even though 2 vehicles use a 9oo6 ours do not have correct polarity but the other is in fact a plug and play. Makes sence I guess since the kits arent vehicle specific

my HID's are plug and play, no wire cutting for me......... but i still also have the 1st gen HIDs that come out, you had to wire it to the battery and ground to the the frame, split and splice 8 wires, 4 fuses to mount up some where, and 3 hours later PRAY the come on and work!!!

so even though 2 vehicles use a 9oo6 ours do not have correct polarity but the other is in fact a plug and play. Makes sence I guess since the kits arent vehicle specific

Now your getting it ;) :D

Will I changed out 5000k fog bulbs with 6000k since one went out. It all came from DDM and everything seem to be up to snuff. Also everyone of the road seems to be more happy since Ive adjusted my headlights. About 600 miles of driving on the interstate and only one person turned on their highs after I passed them. They turned 'em off when I showed them how bright the ones on the rear bumper were.:D

Will I changed out 5000k fog bulbs with 6000k since one went out. It all came from DDM and everything seem to be up to snuff. Also everyone of the road seems to be more happy since Ive adjusted my headlights. About 600 miles of driving on the interstate and only one person turned on their highs after I passed them. They turned 'em off when I showed them how bright the ones on the rear bumper were.:D

Hell yea, there ya go!! :)

Here are mine. I was hoping for matching color but no dice. My 9006 lows are definately more yellow than the H10 fogs :( Both are 5K color, 35w ballast. No harness.

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp9/tophog01/Misc/hids002.jpg

Thats DDM for ya

Yeah, one would think if you ordered 5K bulbs and the same ballast they would be the same color. I guess I'll need to figure out what to do in order to get the same color ...is this a ballast or bulb issue ...or just a matter of cheap quality products? Apparently I played the HID game and lost in round 1 :)

Welcome to the club bud. Check your ballast and make sure they are all 35W. If they are then its a bulb game/ Its supposedly (which I disagree) normal for slight variations from one bulb base type to another but your lows look like 4300K's. My 5K's had NO yellow in them at all before they went bad a month later. Your fogs however look correct. Take them out of housings and let hang down and light em all up. They should ALL match in color. I guarantee you they dont though.

i just installed the DDM slim kits in my highs and lows. the highs look like the 5K i ordered while the lows look to be 4300K. you can definitely tell a difference with the highs on because i have the all on headlight mod.

The Highs are going to Add Color, while the Lows are going to take away, unless you are Dead-On even under the Cutoff. If you are above the Cutoff on my Lows, they look a Deep Gold Color, then when you are Dead-On, they are the Sharp White w/ Purple Color that the 4300k has.

So what do I order to get the same color in my lows to match the fogs? WTF? All my shit is 35 watt ...checked that 10x before installing based on the recent DDM posts here on the forum.

Just order the same Color the whole way around. They are all going to look the same when they are coming at you.

I have $400+ Kits in my Truck and it does the different Color "thing" also. If you are Standing up close to the Truck, it's gonna do it. Have someone drive it down the Road and then back, and you'll see, everything is the same Color.

I'm confused. I did order 5K's for the lows and fogs. so you are saying the color is going to look different with the truck moving vice sitting in the driveway as shown in the previous pict?

Just order the same Color the whole way around. They are all going to look the same when they are coming at you.

I have $400+ Kits in my Truck and it does the different Color "thing" also. If you are Standing up close to the Truck, it's gonna do it. Have someone drive it down the Road and then back, and you'll see, everything is the same Color.

Yea, because you are up so Close to it. Have someone drive the Truck down the Road, while you are at the end of your Driveway or whatever, and then when you see the Truck coming back towards you, you will see it's all the same Color.

And I said it a while ago, the Lens Optics will throw the Color off slightly too.

Mad Maxx is dead on there. If you order the same color in your highs and lows then it should be right.

Sort of. I didn't do highs ...5K's for lows and fogs.

Mad Maxx is dead on there. If you order the same color in your highs and lows then it should be right.

I ran 6k on high/low/fog and then got halo projectors. The projector lens changed the low beam color to a whiter look vs. the bluish tint.

OK, after reading thread and looking on DDM's site I'm ready to buy the kit. I take it you need a kit for the low and high beams which are 9006 and 9005. Not going to do the fog because I never use them. Question is if going to the 55watt you need the accessory harness. But if you have the Kennedy 4 beam light kit you shouldn't need the accessory harness because his harness is already larger wire? Am I correct in my thinking?

Greg

I asked the same question Greg and they said it wasn't the same.

I asked the same question Greg and they said it wasn't the same.


I'm going to get the kits and then have a look at the KD harness. I bet it can be used.

Greg

Ok maybe some arent reading this thread the whole way thru....DO NOT BUY FROM DDM. They are junk. They wont refund money. They wont give you correct bulbs. Ive had 4 sets now and all suck...even had a bulb burn out yesterday. I even had one retard tell me today that the bulbs arent suppose to match from different manufactures. I asked if they use same manufacturer and he said yes. SO WHY DONT THEY MATCH? He said that the Kelvin scale is just a loose guideline.

Is this who you want your HID's thru? I dont. Im trying another set from a guy on Ebay and will let yall know. Maxx has em now and says they are good and have heard other people say they are decent too.

I live in San Diego and picked up my lights from DDM. I thought the staff was very knowledgeable. The owner spent some time educating me as well. I purchased 6K 35watt for both my high and low beam. They are both very white and work awesome. So much so, I purchased a set for my Polaris Sportsman Quad. They work excellent in it as well. I have had them installed for about 5 weeks

I am not bias but just wanted to post my experience with them. One thin I can say about DDM is that they are not the most organized group I have bumped into. They are trying to hire more folks (they have more work than people to execute) but are behind the curve on shipping product.

I live in San Diego and picked up my lights from DDM. I thought the staff was very knowledgeable. The owner spent some time educating me as well. I purchased 6K 35watt for both my high and low beam. They are both very white and work awesome. So much so, I purchased a set for my Polaris Sportsman Quad. They work excellent in it as well. I have had them installed for about 5 weeks

I am not bias but just wanted to post my experience with them. One thin I can say about DDM is that they are not the most organized group I have bumped into. They are trying to hire more folks (they have more work than people to execute) but are behind the curve on shipping product.

What Kit Version did you get? DDM / Apexcone / Raptor?

Apexcone...DDM sold me the kits. 3 kits in total. High & low for truck and Low for ATV

Apexcone...DDM sold me the kits. 3 kits in total. High & low for truck and Low for ATV

So you got the Original Full Size ones?

Supposedly those are the best ones.

Well if they cant even figure out what the Kelvin Scale is then theres no hope. I just want people to know what to expect from them before they buy. If you feel lucky go for it. I had my lows for bout 5-6 weeks before noticing color change then just last night bulb wont even start. Fogs have always been wrong color and the ceramic starter wire was cracked when I received them last time..wrong color again.

So this is just more or less a FYI for ya guys.

I will be doing this too. Looks like ddm is the way to go.

I will be doing this too. Looks like ddm is the way to go.

:eek2: :idiot: :banghead:

Honestly I think you are making way too big of a deal over this. You and one other guy have had problems with the DDM's, even then the problem is the colors don't match........their 45$ HID's. You get what you pay for, and for 45$ I think they are a damn good deal.

Honestly I think you are making way too big of a deal over this. You and one other guy have had problems with the DDM's, even then the problem is the colors don't match........their 45$ HID's. You get what you pay for, and for 45$ I think they are a damn good deal.
Only problem Ive had was the 55w in my low beams was too bright.:D Got em pointed down lil more now and everthing is solved. Im running thier stuff in all 6 lights.

Honestly I think you are making way too big of a deal over this. You and one other guy have had problems with the DDM's, even then the problem is the colors don't match........their 45$ HID's. You get what you pay for, and for 45$ I think they are a damn good deal.

You are totally correct...but even a total *ucktard should be able to Pair up a set of 4300k's, 6000k, 8000k's, ect... no?

Honestly I think you are making way too big of a deal over this. You and one other guy have had problems with the DDM's, even then the problem is the colors don't match........their 45$ HID's. You get what you pay for, and for 45$ I think they are a damn good deal.

Hey bud if you think Im making such a big deal about this dont look at the thread. If you do your homework you will find out ALOT more than just 2 people have had problems with them. If you like em so much start your own thread. Im just trying to help people out here. I dont give a shit if they were $20 I bought them with all intentions that they were going to work correctly. I dont remember them advertising "may or may not work" on their website or only work for a short period of time. Also if you would read then you would know that one of my bulbs also does not WORK...meaning burned out already. So do some research and start your own thread and keep your opinions out of this one.

Oh and yea...I spent more than $45 on mine too.

Whoa back up the crazy train here, this is a public forum that is open for discussion. I'm just adding in my 2 cents to the conversation, which so happens to differ from your opinion. I didn't go into your DDM sucks thread and cause a ruckus. I posted in a thread that has views from both sides, which if I remember correctly you liked these things at first. What I don't like is you running around in any thread that has DDM even mentioned in it and making fun of anyone who even considers them. That's just plain childish.


I don't think these kits are the best thing since sliced bread, hell I think they are borderline junk......but they do cost 3 to 4 times less than the high end kits which makes them an option in my mind.

Whoa back up the crazy train here, this is a public forum that is open for discussion. I'm just adding in my 2 cents to the conversation, which so happens to differ from your opinion. I didn't go into your DDM sucks thread and cause a ruckus. I posted in a thread that has views from both sides, which if I remember correctly you liked these things at first. What I don't like is you running around in any thread that has DDM even mentioned in it and making fun of anyone who even considers them. That's just plain childish.


I don't think these kits are the best thing since sliced bread, hell I think they are borderline junk......but they do cost 3 to 4 times less than the high end kits which makes them an option in my mind.

Hey Im pretty sure Ive posted in just these 2 threads about them and guess who started these threads? So once again do your homework. ALL Im trying to do is save people from a headache later on. There are plenty of kits out there this price that DO work. Ive seen more expensive ones not work also so money isnt everything. Its the quality of parts used and the customer service that is provided. Getting the right parts is just as important to me. Maybe your expectations are lower than mine.

Your right I liked em for a whole 2 weeks. Go back and look.

So from now on I will just answer my PM's from people regarding HID's instead of posting my experiences in here for everyone to see. That way I wont be trashing a "good" company so you wont cry. It appears people are still going to buy from them regardless of how many problems people are having so I'll let it go. All I can say is good luck to you.

It's not your message I'm questioning......it's your delivery.

I'm all about educating people, your tone just leaves a lot to be desired.


I'm out.

Well if there is one thing I have learned over 56 yrs. 99.95% of the time, You get what you pay for. PERIOD

I just spent (last night), $199 USD for an Xtreme HID Conversion kit (Japanese made). Low Beam 4300K full kit along with $179 USD on a set of LED Halo projector headlamps. I will use standard 9005 halogen bulbs for the hi beams and see what transpires...yep, that equals about $600 CAD after shipping/taxes/exchange rate and other B$...But to tell ya the truth..an HID kit for $45 is simply too damned cheap for any reasonable expectation of quality.! ..and I think that if you have a likely failure rate of 10-15%+ then you are dealing with junk.plain and simple.

At this stage in the game of life, it's simply not worth it in my mind anymore...buy quality = less aggravation, more smiles and a hell of a lot more mileage than junk. That goes for just about anything in life. Yet we are all still prone to still see if we can get a "deal"...right? Me too...I tried the SilverStar bulbs even after reading right here on the forum that they last 6 months or less thinking that, nah, wont happen to me right.?? Yep..less than 3 months in my case..both gone. JUNK..!!. The last one burned up in the middle of a wicked snowstorm that saw me with 1 low beam and my fogs on driving at 40mph for 2 hours...not fun.

Sometimes you do win...but more often you do not..seems the nots outgun the wins...big time.

I guess it boils down to this analogy: You can buy 6 pairs of cheap shoes..that are uncomfortable, don't break in well, wear out fast and don't really look good or you can buy a top of line pair that are comfortable, look good and last for 3 years. Same $$ outlay .. your choice.!!

as for me? I wear Ecco's

1 comment: if youre gonna go HID, then go with projectors as well, I'm damned tired of coming up against guys that cheap out - your blinding me..!!

oh yea...here's a link: http://www.kbcarstuff.com/

cheers,

stk

I agree totally with you and more than not I do buy quality but having done some research I was under the impression these were pretty good and lifetime warranty to boot. So I said wth if they last a year thats fine with me. I thought theywould last little longer than a month and also thought Id get the correct product. But as with many things in life I know better now.

All I can say is Lesson Learned. My whole point is I wanted to point out to others about the problems so they dont follow in my headache trail. There are plenty other kits for around same price that DO work. But whatever its over now.

Well if there is one thing I have learned over 56 yrs. 99.95% of the time, You get what you pay for. PERIOD

I just spent (last night), $199 USD for an Xtreme HID Conversion kit (Japanese made). Low Beam 4300K full kit along with $179 USD on a set of LED Halo projector headlamps. I will use standard 9005 halogen bulbs for the hi beams and see what transpires...yep, that equals about $600 CAD after shipping/taxes/exchange rate and other B$...But to tell ya the truth..an HID kit for $45 is simply too damned cheap for any reasonable expectation of quality.! ..and I think that if you have a likely failure rate of 10-15%+ then you are dealing with junk.plain and simple.

At this stage in the game of life, it's simply not worth it in my mind anymore...buy quality = less aggravation, more smiles and a hell of a lot more mileage than junk. That goes for just about anything in life. Yet we are all still prone to still see if we can get a "deal"...right? Me too...I tried the SilverStar bulbs even after reading right here on the forum that they last 6 months or less thinking that, nah, wont happen to me right.?? Yep..less than 3 months in my case..both gone. JUNK..!!. The last one burned up in the middle of a wicked snowstorm that saw me with 1 low beam and my fogs on driving at 40mph for 2 hours...not fun.

Sometimes you do win...but more often you do not..seems the nots outgun the wins...big time.

I guess it boils down to this analogy: You can buy 6 pairs of cheap shoes..that are uncomfortable, don't break in well, wear out fast and don't really look good or you can buy a top of line pair that are comfortable, look good and last for 3 years. Same $$ outlay .. your choice.!!

as for me? I wear Ecco's

1 comment: if youre gonna go HID, then go with projectors as well, I'm damned tired of coming up against guys that cheap out - your blinding me..!!

oh yea...here's a link: http://www.kbcarstuff.com/

cheers,

stk

I wish KB (Xenon Depot) still Sold the Original Philips HID Kits. That's the one I got on my Truck now. Got it 4 Years ago, and is still working 100% Today. Because it uses all OEM Components, AND Relays.

I'm sure their Xtreme Kit won't be too bad. Just a lil more than some want to pay when you can get Kits for around $50, but KB & XD have been around for 4+ Years, so I'm sure if a problem does happen to arise, they'll back the Product for you.

Roger that Getsome...seems that whenever someone trys a product, finds its garbage and then posts...someone gets their dick all tied in a knot.? wtf is up with that.?? You bought them, they were replaced and the second pair where of the same $hitty quality....JUNK.!! and yet you took the time posted your findings here to let all others know. I know from personal experience what it feels like to buy a product and find out it is just a POS.

IMHOP - perfectly gentlemanly if you ask me.!

Max..appreciate the feedback.! Good to know that I did buy from a reasonably reputable outfit. I guess the HID's are already at home and the headlamps are on their way.

Love to install em right away..but with Temps in the -34C range (-26F), and an unheated garage with my truck in it (its too long to close the doors).....I am gonna wait till it warms up some..April or so.!! LOL

Gonna be sweet with the all on headlight thing going.! Now for a Buckstop Baja Bumper and a couple of PIAA's on that...I'm gonna light up my world.!

cheers,

stk

Well if there is one thing I have learned over 56 yrs. 99.95% of the time, You get what you pay for. PERIOD

I just spent (last night), $199 USD for an Xtreme HID Conversion kit (Japanese made). Low Beam 4300K full kit along with $179 USD on a set of LED Halo projector headlamps. I will use standard 9005 halogen bulbs for the hi beams and see what transpires...yep, that equals about $600 CAD after shipping/taxes/exchange rate and other B$...But to tell ya the truth..an HID kit for $45 is simply too damned cheap for any reasonable expectation of quality.! ..and I think that if you have a likely failure rate of 10-15%+ then you are dealing with junk.plain and simple.

At this stage in the game of life, it's simply not worth it in my mind anymore...buy quality = less aggravation, more smiles and a hell of a lot more mileage than junk. That goes for just about anything in life. Yet we are all still prone to still see if we can get a "deal"...right? Me too...I tried the SilverStar bulbs even after reading right here on the forum that they last 6 months or less thinking that, nah, wont happen to me right.?? Yep..less than 3 months in my case..both gone. JUNK..!!. The last one burned up in the middle of a wicked snowstorm that saw me with 1 low beam and my fogs on driving at 40mph for 2 hours...not fun.

Sometimes you do win...but more often you do not..seems the nots outgun the wins...big time.

I guess it boils down to this analogy: You can buy 6 pairs of cheap shoes..that are uncomfortable, don't break in well, wear out fast and don't really look good or you can buy a top of line pair that are comfortable, look good and last for 3 years. Same $$ outlay .. your choice.!!

as for me? I wear Ecco's

1 comment: if youre gonna go HID, then go with projectors as well, I'm damned tired of coming up against guys that cheap out - your blinding me..!!

oh yea...here's a link: http://www.kbcarstuff.com/

cheers,

stk

very well put, my thoughts exactly!

DDM just raised their Prices back up. I hope with the Increased Price comes Increased Quality and Reliability.

Well I thought there was a price drop coming after the first of the year.

Anyone here have experience with the philips hid kits? Seems to me like these are a good choice (obviously a little more costly). Where is a good place to buy?

Any experience with hids installed on a truck that a snow plow is mounted on? Will it effect the wiring for when you plug in the snow plow harness and it switched to the plow lights?

Thanks!!

Well I thought there was a price drop coming after the first of the year.

The Tip I got was that it was coming in '09. It was never said exactly when.

Anyone here have experience with the philips hid kits? Seems to me like these are a good choice (obviously a little more costly). Where is a good place to buy?

Any experience with hids installed on a truck that a snow plow is mounted on? Will it effect the wiring for when you plug in the snow plow harness and it switched to the plow lights?

Thanks!!

I got the Philips Kits in my Truck now. It is True 110% Philips / Hella OEM Compnents.

Post a Link to the Philips Kit you are considering, and I'll let you know if it's REAL Philips or not.

Guess it's like a lot of things, raise it up so it'll look better when it goes down.
I may have to look at the phillips. I wanted Panasonic but noone can tell me where to get them. My luck I'd have trouble so I'm looking local also .

Guess it's like a lot of things, raise it up so it'll look better when it goes down.
I may have to look at the phillips. I wanted Panasonic but noone can tell me where to get them. My luck I'd have trouble so I'm looking local also .

The Panasonic Ballasts are all over Ebay. They are known as "Matsushita Ballasts" in the OEM World. Just Search that on Ebay and you'll get lots of Listings.

Ordered mine today from your dude James. Already shipped so thats a good start ;)

Ordered mine today from your dude James. Already shipped so thats a good start ;)

Hell yea, that guy gets it done quick. I get my orders in 1-2 days.

Hell yea, that guy gets it done quick. I get my orders in 1-2 days.
who are you talking about id like to order some too

http://stores.ebay.com/wholesale-hid

This is who Im trying now but with just bulbs as I already have some ballasts.

Im also have it set that if these by some chance dont work I will be getting the more expensive ones that Maxx has. We'll try these first. Its cheap so I wont be out that much. I know theres a cheap kit somewhere that works and is what Im trying to find.

$83 isn't bad at all if they are reliable. All those sellers use the exact same pictures adding to the confusion.

I took apart one of the Ballasts too, and the Inside really is Potted and fully Waterproof.

I got the Philips Kits in my Truck now. It is True 110% Philips / Hella OEM Compnents.

Post a Link to the Philips Kit you are considering, and I'll let you know if it's REAL Philips or not.


I've only looked around a little bit recently.. Is there a specific place your would recommend purchasing a philips hid kit?

I've only looked around a little bit recently.. Is there a specific place your would recommend purchasing a philips hid kit?

Ebay, but NOT the one listed as a "Philips HID Kit". It's in a White / Blue Box, that is 100% FAKE and no better than the $50 Kits out there.

You gotta build the Kit yourself. Buy JUST the Ballasts, then for find a Wiring Harness, then Bulb Adapters, then Bulbs.

hey james, did your friend get his kit?

hey james, did your friend get his kit?

Not yet, but he heard back from RS, so that's a good thing. RS said it should have been delivered by now, and maybe it's lost at the PO.

just shot a fog light. Guess I'll be in the market for some sooner than I expected.

just shot a fog light. Guess I'll be in the market for some sooner than I expected.

Get on it ;)

Get on it ;)

You get your Bulbs yet? What Color did you get?

Nah not yet...should get em next week...got 6K's in both fogs and lows. Id report how they are but dont want to get someones panties in a knot ;)

When did you order them? You might have them Tomorrow. They are only coming from MD.

It's your Thread mannnn!! Do whatever ya want! ;) :)

just got mine in and DAMN!!!!!!!!!!! I've been bright lighted 25 times already.... I wen t with the 35w and the 45k in the lo's, hi's and driving.....

just got mine in and DAMN!!!!!!!!!!! I've been bright lighted 25 times already.... I wen t with the 35w and the 45k in the lo's, hi's and driving.....

You gotta re-aim your Lights. Don't think it's just a drop in and you're good to go. That's the #1 mistake people make.

You gotta re-aim your Lights. Don't think it's just a drop in and you're good to go. That's the #1 mistake people make.

X2.

I think I ordered them Wednesday. Maybe Thursday hell I dont remember ;)

X2.

I think I ordered them Wednesday. Maybe Thursday hell I dont remember ;)

O ok, then prob. Monday you'll have 'em.

Hey guys...quick question. Was at Van Action World today here in Barrie (looking to order a Titan tank), and noticed that PIAA has some 9005's in a "Silverstar" type of bulb. Guy was saying they are warrantied for a year and he has, to date, not had a set come back..??

BS or what..?? Anyone ever buy these.??

I'm really thinking about the HIR Bulbs as well for the same application (HIgh Beams)..not sure if what PIAA is selling is them or standard halogen type...but would like something brighter/whiter in the highs without the expense of true good quality HID.

Allready have headlamps/HID's for my lows.

stk

Have heard a Silverstar will only last you a few months. Do a search on em and you will see. Wouldnt recommend them.

Hey guys...quick question. Was at Van Action World today here in Barrie (looking to order a Titan tank), and noticed that PIAA has some 9005's in a "Silverstar" type of bulb. Guy was saying they are warrantied for a year and he has, to date, not had a set come back..??

BS or what..?? Anyone ever buy these.??

I'm really thinking about the HIR Bulbs as well for the same application (HIgh Beams)..not sure if what PIAA is selling is them or standard halogen type...but would like something brighter/whiter in the highs without the expense of true good quality HID.

Allready have headlamps/HID's for my lows.

stk


I had a set of the PIAA extreme white (think thats the proper name) 4000k in my truck. I really liked them and never had an issue with them. I took them out when I added the Denali clip as I only had one set of the 9005s.

Well got the new HID's in today. Will see how they match tonight but first impression is fogs still might look a little yellow. We'll see...maybe its just the light outside or my housings or something.

fogs still might look a little yellow. We'll see...maybe its just the light outside or my housings or something.

SAY IT AIN'T SO!! :eek:

do ya'lls fogs have a lense over the bulb.....just got my truck and one fog is out and there is no clear lense over the housing????

SAY IT AIN'T SO!! :eek:

Well if it is I would say its from the reflector somehow. I dont know how it would do that since all its doing is reflecting light back but who knows. I wont be able to tell till dark but its alot better than DDM's 880's.

do ya'lls fogs have a lense over the bulb.....just got my truck and one fog is out and there is no clear lense over the housing????

Yes there should be a lens over the bulb thats plastic. These foglights suck cause they are so small and heat doesnt dissipate very good....at least in my experience. You can get aftermarket housings off Ebay for like both of em for $56 or something. Dealer I think wanted $126 each. Im going a whole different front end setup here soon to get out of those rectangle lights and go with round ones. Will be one off when done cause Ive never seen it on a truck before.

Yea, the Shroud over the Bulb on the Inside could be severely Bronzed on the back side, that faces the Bulb, so much so, that it is Reflecting onto the Bowl and making the Color Output wrong.

Ok well just saw them in dark is its definetly an improvement over DDM's. The lows dont look much different between 5K and 6K which I didnt think it would so thats good and the fogs are just slightly off in color...more of a 4300K+ look. Thats fine for what I paid for em. So so far so good. If they last me a year I'll be happy :D

With my new mods up front the fogs may indeed look better so we will see when I get that all done.

Ok well just saw them in dark is its definetly an improvement over DDM's. The lows dont look much different between 5K and 6K which I didnt think it would so thats good and the fogs are just slightly off in color...more of a 4300K+ look. Thats fine for what I paid for em. So so far so good. If they last me a year I'll be happy :D

With my new mods up front the fogs may indeed look better so we will see when I get that all done.

What Colors did you order from my guy?

6000k

I got a feeling it's that Metal Shroud over the Bulb.

What way is the Return Wire facing on the Bulb when it's Installed. Is it facing Straight Down?