Just wondering if anyone is running a PPE standard on a LLY? Just wanting to know what everybody thinks of this tuner. can,t seem to find much info on them in dp. Was thinking about ordering one from alligator here in the next couple of days and wanted some in put before i spend the money. Thanks in advance for any and all replies

I have one and Im very happy with it. It drives like stock but when you put your foot into it theres some go. I run level 3 most of the time (120 hp) and the trans seems happy with it and there isnt much smoke to speak of. Level 4 (180 hp) will slip my trans on the 4-5 shift but if your light on that shift it sure is fun through the rest of the gears. I would say with exception to EFI live PPE is top of the line.

I really like mine. A little more defuel than I like but the tranny has always shifted nicely. I put in a SCIII and run the 225hp tune.

The Standard Xcelerator is a great choice. The power and drivability is great with this tuner. It is our top selling PPE tuner by far.

i have one and it runs great. i keep mine on level 4 with defueling off. runs great and tranny has no problem holdin up the the power. i have raced and hooked to a sled and no problems

I had bully dog and everyone was bragging about PPE, so i thought what the hell and went for it. i start with the first tune at 225 and grannied it for around 3000 miles(hoping fo better fuel econ) but didnt work. Then i dropped it to 120 tune and has been there since(so i can floor it when I want and not kill tranny). this programmer had the cleanest power that ive seen(have alot of buddies with other programmers and they are all impressed the the ppe). the next step will be EFI but that will have to wait till after christmas. I ordered my from alligator(chad i believe, nice guy and will answer any questions you have)

Have one and it is a hell of a lot better then the bully dog that I did have.

i have one and it runs great. i keep mine on level 4 with defueling off. runs great and tranny has no problem holdin up the the power. i have raced and hooked to a sled and no problems


you don't get to be able to remove defuel unless you have the Hot or Hot +2. Ours doesn't remove it.

you don't get to be able to remove defuel unless you have the Hot or Hot +2. Ours doesn't remove it.


yes it does buddy i have 4 opions to choose and they are: add timing, add fuel, rev limiter, and defueling on or off. and i have the standard

yes it does buddy i have 4 opions to choose and they are: add timing, add fuel, rev limiter, and defueling on or off. and i have the standard


or u may have the older edition..idk i just bought mine about 4 months ago

I have a PPE Standard and also have those 4 opions. I just bought mine used from this site a few weeks ago. Could someone explain to me what those opions will do for you and when would you use them? Thanks

Bruce

I have a PPE Standard and also have those 4 opions. I just bought mine used from this site a few weeks ago. Could someone explain to me what those opions will do for you and when would you use them? Thanks

Bruce


they basically do what they say...now im not 100% sure on this but i was told if u run more timing and no fuel you will get better fuel milage. but when u select a new tune you can go in and take away those 4 opions. i keep everything on expect defueling. all this does is when the tranny is about to shift the motor starts to defuel so the tranny can have time to shift while its not under alot of stress...you can tell when the motor defuels bc the rpms start to jump and it feels like it is surging. so it just is a safety thing so you have a less chance of hurting the tranny.

I have one and Im very happy with it. It drives like stock but when you put your foot into it theres some go. I run level 3 most of the time (120 hp) and the trans seems happy with it and there isnt much smoke to speak of. Level 4 (180 hp) will slip my trans on the 4-5 shift but if your light on that shift it sure is fun through the rest of the gears. I would say with exception to EFI live PPE is top of the line.

Mine did exactly the same thing. With 39" boggers and 10" lift, but it was fun, and i blew more black smoke than 95% of all the suped up dodges i've ever seen. And its the chip that was made 1st for the Dmax, then they made it for dodge and ford. The big three each have there One awesome setup.(with the exception of EFI, cause its just the shit) Dmax=PPE, Ford=Banks, Dodge=Smarty. But yeah i turned my tuner down and have been good, got t-case problems now and will be swapping my ally for the ZF6 soon. Cause there are few things better in life than having your tuner turned up and shifting from 3rd to 6th right beside someone on a bicycle. lol:muahaha::muahaha:

yes it does buddy i have 4 opions to choose and they are: add timing, add fuel, rev limiter, and defueling on or off. and i have the standard


I have the option, but it doesn't work. As I mentioned, you need the Hot or Hot +2 for that option to work. With it on or off, there is no difference and you can tell when it defuels

I have the option, but it doesn't work. As I mentioned, you need the Hot or Hot +2 for that option to work. With it on or off, there is no difference and you can tell when it defuels

yes you can. if they didnt work then why would they put hte opions on htere. all 4 of them work. if you play with it and know ur truck very well you can tell a difference. and defueling you can really tell

I hate to argue, but you are incorrect. You can select defuel and turn it on and off but you get no change. No defuel is built into the tunes on the HOT+2ET. Look through this thread, Dan from PPE chimed in and answered this previous question.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255180&highlight=ppe+defuel&page=5

(The defuel is turned on on all the tuners except the Hot+2 e.t.)


I read it and all he say's it is turned on. So does that mean it is turned on as default and you can turn it off or does it mean it is turned on and can not be changed? I have the standard but have not played with that option yet.

Bruce

yes, it defuels for each shift as a default. The Hot+2 can turn it off which you will notice immediately. I had a predator 2.02 and it defueled less than this PPE standard does, but the tune wasn't as big as well. When you have a built tranny and running the bigger tunes, you would rather not have it defuel but just slide through the gears.

i still dont beieve it. when i first bought my ppe i left defueling on and when i turned it off i could tell a very big difference. when defueling was on the truck would sutter really bad when it was about to change when you were WOT now with defueling off, it doesnt shutter and they tranny shifts fine. it may or may not turn it off but i can tell a very big difference with it off.

I think Dan from PPE needs to explain it a little better. I am with you dmaxboy08, why have the option on there if it dosen't do anything. If it is there why can you not turn it off?

yea i think it would just be waste of space and its not good customer service if you have a product and there are options on there that doesnt work. but i love ppe and wont get anything different than efi live lol

i just got the standard and it dont have much smoke other than that it great

I just got my PPE today and I am trying to confirm this about the defuel. Anybody??

The PPE has defuel built into all of it's tune. It is the smoothest tuner you can buy for the money, don't mess with any of the fuel, timing or defuel settings unless you know what your doing.

You should just buy my PPE so i can get efi live haha. Its a really good tuner though. I like it better than my brothers quadzilla

^ Price?

i had ppe no probs loved it i have limped it before stay in the lower tunes if u have a stock trans now im headed for efi live cant wait

I have the standard tune for my LB7 and to help out with the defueling question from what I been told(and have done it also). You can turn off defueling on levels 4 and 5. Levels 1,2 and 3 are built in and cant be adjusted even though they give you the option. You can try it if you dont believe me, but it works.

So did we ever figure out if it works or not? because i hooked up a Predator at the 120hp tune to my truck tonight (just bought it a few days ago) and when it shifted it surged shifts or over rev like it was slipping, but i can't see it slipping on that. Maybe it just didnt learn the new shifts yet. But I took it off becasue it was my buddy's chip. My PPE standard should be coming soon and was just wondering. Because if turning off defueling helped keep the surges away and what not. I want to look into that. I don't want to run the 220hp tune or whatever but I wouldnt mind experimenting with the 160hp tune or the 120hp tune on the PPE since the predator seems to be so rough with its shifts and whatnot.
2005 Duramax LLY 117k miles

If your shifts were flaring then you just didn't have enough time for the Ally to relearn. Nothing wrong with the programmer. The Predator defuel is pretty obvious...but it does help the tranny and it is still very driveable.

I was playing with my ppe standard that other day. I selected the 160hp tune and before I installed it I went ot custom changes. I went to defuel and selected it. then I hit the "yes" button. When I went to install the tune it said
increase timing Yes
increase fuel Yes
(drawing a blank on the other one)
Defuel No

It does shift differently for sure. Normally if I would spin my tires on a wet road or gravel I could feel it cut fuel on the 1-2 shift. It no longer does that.

I've been running it on level 3 now for about four weeks. I was running a bully dog. The difference is night and day. PPE has got their sh!t together!!! Trans shifts fine, no problems at all. I wish I would have gone with the PPE to begin with, would have saved me $500.:D:D

I'd like to know how you can have a stacked PPE, defueled, stock trans with no problems. I noticed you dont have any trans upgrades listed in your sig. Not being a smart azz, grasshopper just wants knowledge!:o:


yea i think it would just be waste of space and its not good customer service if you have a product and there are options on there that doesnt work. but i love ppe and wont get anything different than efi live lol

PPE is without a doubt the best tuner that you can buy for a DMAX (without going EFI Live) I have had mine for almost a year now and I LOVE IT!!!! Many options like the defueling, speedo, etc. and I like the ability to use the Diag mode and look at sensors and other stuff while the truck is running. Driveabilty and the performance are hard to match. I have the Hot +2, mines on level 5 cant go higher cause stock fuel system. Def recommend the PPE, (any version). I am a huge chevy guy and have 2 4th gen camaros. I look at PPE as the SLP for the Dmax!!!! They got it all figured out!

I'd like to know how you can have a stacked PPE, defueled, stock trans with no problems. I noticed you dont have any trans upgrades listed in your sig. Not being a smart azz, grasshopper just wants knowledge!:o:

haha well i do have tranny problems...now. i used to not have any but over time the tranny has gotten worn and i need a new one but im gonna get very mile out of this one. also just bc i have stacked PPE and dufuel off, doesnt mean i got everything turn up as far as it will go. the duramaximizer never gets turned up over half way and the only time i do this is when the PPE standard is on levels 1 or 2. i usually run level 3 with the duramaximizer turned all the way down but will turn it up if i wanna play. sometimes i will run level 4 and 5 when all i wnat to do is blow smoke. when im on those levels the duramaximzier stays all the way down.

Love my PPE, level two is where its at.

Had mine on lvl 4 for a week or so loved it, ridiculous! But dropped it back down to lvl 3 to stay away from trans damage, so my trans will last me a long time! Still like it a lot tho!

Ive got the PPE standard, had it about a week now. I got it to have the extra power and didn't put much thought into the MPG side of it. Now don't get me wrong the power is incredible, but the mileage i gained was an unexpected plus. i was only getting 280 miles to the tank and now im getting close to 400 miles a tank!!! this thing is awesome and will most def earn its keep!!! hope you've got one by now and are enjoying it as much as I...

Ive got the PPE standard, had it about a week now. I got it to have the extra power and didn't put much thought into the MPG side of it. Now don't get me wrong the power is incredible, but the mileage i gained was an unexpected plus. i was only getting 280 miles to the tank and now im getting close to 400 miles a tank!!! this thing is awesome and will most def earn its keep!!! hope you've got one by now and are enjoying it as much as I...


what level do u usually run?

will the ppe block egr codes and also can it read balance rates on injectors
Thanks

will the ppe block egr codes and also can it read balance rates on injectors
Thanks


from what i hear yes it can block EGR codes. i think that it disables the EGR valve also but a blocker plate is still needed. It can read balance rates but PPE reads it different than lets say a GM tech 2 scanner or something like that. the way ppe reads it is not very accurate and i wouldnt go by just what it says but if u think u have a dead cylinder or something like that it can show that

what level do u usually run? when i was really trying to see what kind of MPGs i could could get i kept it on Lv. 2 and had a fairly light foot...

My standard should be here Tuesday!!!

Jeremy