Hi there
Planing on changing my heads and have been doing some reserarch on prices. Had a lot of white smoke from the exhaust when I came home a couple of days ago, have not drove it since, recon its a gasket or a crack.Think I have found a company that I will do the deal with, but today I got an mail asking if I had straight or angled heads???
Never heard of this, whats the difference and how its the best and simplest way to find out while they still are in the car.
Does anyone have any good suggestions on where to get gaskets, what brand/part number from a company that shippes overseas.

Thanks

If it is a gas motor then i would assume they are talking about the spark plugs being angled. If you are talking about a diesel then i have no idea unless the injector holes are angled. I would talk to the company and make sure that you are both on the same page cause you wouldn't want to receive heads with sparkplugs if you are working on a diesel They may be talking about a valve job done on the heads also. If it is a gas motor then look at the spark plugs and see if they go straight in or if they are angled.

I think there talking about the intake manifold bolts. On van turbo heads, the bolts go in more straight up and down, where the truck ones go in close to a 90º angle to the manifold surface.

yes, 90 degree angle heads mean the intake manifold plenum mounting bolts holes are at a 90 degree angle to the flat surface ,all side mounted turbo 6.5 engine have this style.

Thanks for the replys
Going to place an order for angeld heads then..
And maybe find a shop that have Fel-Pro gaskets,understand this is the recomended brand to use, and are willing to ship overseas.

Thanks again

Thanks for the replys
Going to place an order for angeld heads then..
And maybe find a shop that have Fel-Pro gaskets,understand this is the recomended brand to use, and are willing to ship overseas.

Thanks againmake sure you are getting the 90 degree, not the 70 degree unless you have midmount turbo.

Whoa! Hold on just a minute! How do you know for sure that you didnt have an injector go bad or something else causing the white smoke? OR that you dont have just a head gasket blown? On the same note, how do you know the block isnt cracked? While the cracked block isnt likely, the point is that you shouldnt start throwing money at it when you have no idea that heads are the problem. Wouldnt you be pissed off if you pulled the heads to install the new ones and found out it was just a bad injector or a blown gasket? OR what if you spent the $1600 on new heads (or whatever its going to cost) and discovered a big ugly crack in a cylinder wall once the heads were off. Im not saying this is whats happening, im just trying to make a point that you shouldnt just assume its the heads and buy new ones to slap them on when it could be something small.

Whoa! Hold on just a minute! How do you know for sure that you didnt have an injector go bad or something else causing the white smoke? OR that you dont have just a head gasket blown? On the same note, how do you know the block isnt cracked? While the cracked block isnt likely, the point is that you shouldnt start throwing money at it when you have no idea that heads are the problem. Wouldnt you be pissed off if you pulled the heads to install the new ones and found out it was just a bad injector or a blown gasket? OR what if you spent the $1600 on new heads (or whatever its going to cost) and discovered a big ugly crack in a cylinder wall once the heads were off. Im not saying this is whats happening, im just trying to make a point that you shouldnt just assume its the heads and buy new ones to slap them on when it could be something small.

I couldnt agree more. Its crazy to change heads before things have been checked.
I probably got the same symtoms.
i got air bubbling in the coolant tank.
white smoke when starting, temp is ok.
no water in oil.

hope its just a head gasket

I couldnt agree more. Its crazy to change heads before things have been checked.
I probably got the same symtoms.
i got air bubbling in the coolant tank.
white smoke when starting, temp is ok.
no water in oil.

hope its just a head gasket

I had bubbles in the expansion tank also. head gaskets were junk. Heads were fine. Replaced head gaskets and all is well. No white smoke however.

OK, gonna listen to Torque454 ;) and pull the heads first, have not come around to order any heads yet. Been at a local shop and got the gaskets..

Have a new set of injectors that I am putting on since the heads are of.

Have some days of now, so I can take my time on the job. Just hoping the weather will be on my side, not fun not having a garage to stay in.....

Well the sky was clear long enough for me to get started, got all the things of and got to the intake manifoil. All bolts came of witout problem and saw looked fine, exept the bolt for cyl 1 and 7, they where oily. Got the manifold of, noticed then there was oil around cyl 1 and 7 ports and inside the bolts hole....
First time I take on such a job so maybe some think this is a stupied question: Is this normal or do I need to order a new head and replace it ?
Any adivice

Thanks

why does everybody pull the heads first....do a wet/dry compression test, and then move on to a leakdown test...that will give a great idea of what needs to be done...who knows...you might find out the block is cracked without having to pull the engine apart...crazy mechanics :p

it could be oil leaking in from the CDR area...and the intake gasket wasn't designed to be soaked in oil...at least thats my opinion if i'm thinking about the right area of the engine

blueburby1
if you have read the start, you will see that I had trouble with a lot of white smoke,this I dicovered when I came home after driving andd had stopped outside the house when the engine was idling, as fare as I have learned inside this forum is that this indicate blown headgasket, cracked head or bad injector....Thats why I was going to pull the head...So I could check the gasket, the head + put in the new injectors I have
But I was concerned when I discovered the oil on the bolts and around the ports when removing the manifolid...

The CDR is on the other side, between cyl 4 and 6, how can it leak across the engine and make it oily around the ports for cyl 1 and 7 ???

Anybody else having some advice for me on this
Thanks

The oil could be something as simple as a valve cover leaking. Don't forget to buy new head bolts. The bolts are a one time use type. Do not reuse. Have the head magnafluxed to check for cracks. I'd replace the gaskets on both sides as long as it's apart. Good time for new glow plugs also.