If so, how is working? I'm not going to try until this weekend incase something happens. I have everything all set up and ready to go. Just want to hear how others are making out so far.

I figure I will just stick with my switch I feel it is easy just to turn the switch then have to carry my V2 with me.

I figure I will just stick with my switch I feel it is easy just to turn the switch then have to carry my V2 with me.

You are lucky enough to have that luxury, us Bosch controller guys won't. :(

You are lucky enough to have that luxury, us Bosch controller guys won't. :(
but the main thing is you guys can switch tunes. i rarely do it anyhow. it wont be a big deal.

Will the Bosch controller guys be able to wire a switch off the V2 similar to the one off the ECM for mounting purposes?

no you have to hook the v2 up under the dash and switch tunes through the logic on the v2. the v2 is basically like the predator in switching tunes except you already have the tunes flashed into the ecm and you a literally requesting differant tunes. the dsp for the lly/lb7 is working off the ecm memory and programmed resistance.

If so, how is working? I'm not going to try until this weekend incase something happens. I have everything all set up and ready to go. Just want to hear how others are making out so far.

We've had no reported issues with the new functionality in the current release. It's been available for a couple of weeks now, so it's all looking good. A LOT of work was done on earlier versions in BETA to ensure that once it made it into the public arena that it was very stable.

Will the Bosch controller guys be able to wire a switch off the V2 similar to the one off the ECM for mounting purposes?

stacks said it perfectly - the problem with the Bosch ECM is that there isn't a suitable pin in the ECM for us to tap into.

Cheers
Cindy

Well ive tried to do it but my flashscan comes up with the message "tune selecting is not avaliable in the controllers calibration" when i try to select one of the tunes. Is this because i dont have the truck reflased to new operating system yet? I was going to wait to make sure i got everything else set up right before i risked a full reflash of my ecm.

From what I read last night, you have to do the full reflash to get it to work. I haven't done this yet, but here's link to what I was reading. Look at page 12.

http://download2.efilive.com/Tutorials/PDF/DSP%20Upgrade%20Tutorial%20-%20Rev2.pdf

Just curious. Is the switching with the V2 'switch-on-the-fly'? Since the tunes are already loaded in the ECM and your just using the V2 to command the ECM which tune it should run. Can I just leave my V2 plugged and and select a different tune while I'm driving. I'm reflashing my truck tomorrow. Will see how it works...

Well ive tried to do it but my flashscan comes up with the message "tune selecting is not avaliable in the controllers calibration" when i try to select one of the tunes. Is this because i dont have the truck reflased to new operating system yet? I was going to wait to make sure i got everything else set up right before i risked a full reflash of my ecm.
you must reflash the ecm to accomadate the extra tunes. they are all stored in the ecm for our use, but you cant select them until the tunes are there.

Just curious. Is the switching with the V2 'switch-on-the-fly'? Since the tunes are already loaded in the ECM and your just using the V2 to command the ECM which tune it should run. Can I just leave my V2 plugged and and select a different tune while I'm driving. I'm reflashing my truck tomorrow. Will see how it works...

Yep. :)

you must reflash the ecm to accomadate the extra tunes. they are all stored in the ecm for our use, but you cant select them until the tunes are there.

That, and you must also select a PID list that matches the controller.

Just curious. Is the switching with the V2 'switch-on-the-fly'? Since the tunes are already loaded in the ECM and your just using the V2 to command the ECM which tune it should run. Can I just leave my V2 plugged and and select a different tune while I'm driving. I'm reflashing my truck tomorrow. Will see how it works...
i believe so, but i see you already have the dsp switch, why the change? imo it is much more convenient to just flick a switch.

i believe so, but i see you already have the dsp switch, why the change? imo it is much more convenient to just flick a switch.


Its just something new, so I gotta try it at least once lol. Plus 5 tunes are better than 2 :D

okay, your going from a dsp2, makes sense. yes five tunes are better, but the problem is once your in the big tune you wont use anything else. :D.

Lol true story!

We've had no reported issues with the new functionality in the current release. It's been available for a couple of weeks now, so it's all looking good. A LOT of work was done on earlier versions in BETA to ensure that once it made it into the public arena that it was very stable.



stacks said it perfectly - the problem with the Bosch ECM is that there isn't a suitable pin in the ECM for us to tap into.

Cheers
Cindy

Cindy,

I meant like digital gauges that you can wire off your handheld (the little orange clips). It is possible to one day wire a switch off the handheld for easier on the fly switchable tuning from a mounted switch?

you must reflash the ecm to accomadate the extra tunes. they are all stored in the ecm for our use, but you cant select them until the tunes are there.


I just did the full reflash with the DSP5 tune, and go tthe same message. Anyone know what I'm missing? I'm running bootblock 2.5.08, and firmware 2.2.20 as illustraded in my EFI Live Explorer firmware tab. Any helpwould be greatly appreciated.

If matters any my GM OS was 15228758, my DSP5 OS is 05875805, and both calibration numbers are 15246462.

I think I found the issue, but I"m not sure how to fix it. Re-reading the Rev2 DSP tutorial I see my OS ID should read V6. Mine shows V5, but I did the upgrade with EFI Live v7.5.4, which I thought was the latest...I'm not sure what the issue. If anyone knows, please feel free to chime in.

Is there a new script I have to download and run for V6?

V5 vs V6 was the issue. I don't know why it came up V5 in the first place. All I did was remake the DSP5 tun file through the same upgrade process, and the second one came out V6. V6 Switches the tunes via Flash scan, and it sure is neat!

After some rough tinkering and finding some files i forgot to put in the V2, I finally got mine switching also. Although I have just one problem. I'll be driving it and it switches just fine, but then intermittently I loose all throttle control and it just sorta idles down. I have to pull off the road and shut my truck off then back on and it works just fine. Its happened about five times now. Usually it happens close to right after I full flash it.

After some rough tinkering and finding some files i forgot to put in the V2, I finally got mine switching also. Although I have just one problem. I'll be driving it and it switches just fine, but then intermittently I loose all throttle control and it just sorta idles down. I have to pull off the road and shut my truck off then back on and it works just fine. Its happened about five times now. Usually it happens close to right after I full flash it.

Mine has been doing the same thing too, i finally got it up and running this morning but when i change tunes it seems to just lose all throttle control and idle all the way down until you shut it off and restart it. Any imput from the EFI crew?
Thanks
Justin

chevyburnout1 and uwyo_dmax can you both please post which OS you are using?

Can you please check for codes after your throttle issues and advise? Can you also confirm that your issue disappears when you reflash to stock/std DSP?

And lastly, is your DSP5 tune the same one you were using before upgrading to switchable via V2?

It's Saturday morning here in Australia, so it may take us a couple of days to investigate and sort this out.

Cheers
Cindy

Today is the fourth day I'll be playng with this, and I have aseen no issues, yet. One thing I did notice is that it would be very nice to have a back lit FlashScan for switching tunes at night.

chevyburnout1 and uwyo_dmax can you both please post which OS you are using?

Can you please check for codes after your throttle issues and advise? Can you also confirm that your issue disappears when you reflash to stock/std DSP?

And lastly, is your DSP5 tune the same one you were using before upgrading to switchable via V2?

It's Saturday morning here in Australia, so it may take us a couple of days to investigate and sort this out.

Cheers
Cindy

Cindy,
My OS is 03904405, there is no codes associated with this problem ive checked right after each time. And this doesnt happen when back on a stock tune, only when something is changed via the V2. Its not only when tunes were changed but also happend a couple times when trying to display some data. This is my first DSP tune in the truck so i have no previous one to base of off.

Sorry I don't have internet during the weekend but when I get home from work I will get everything for you Cindy. This is my first DSP5 program I've ran in it. Never had a problem with the DSP2 and the hardwired switch. The only other thing I can let you know at this time is that I noticed its happens more commonly with a cold start. Not neccesarily a cold truck. But after it sat for a while. Like driving to work this morning it happend twice within the first mile. But after that it drove fine to work. Total times I lost throttle this weekend was about 8 or nine and is was always after my truck sat for a while, 5-7 hours.

Could you both please email your DSP tune to support at efilive dot com including a link to this thread in the email.

Cheers
Cindy

E-mail sent Cindy. Hope it worked as my internet has been very shotty the last few days.

Cindy,
I also sent out the email last night, hope it helps diagnosing this.
Thanks for the help
Justin

Cindy,
I also noticed that something is messing with my factory xm. I will have it on xm and will come up with xm err message and switch to fm. Hope this helps.

Another thing too is when I first start it up. If I let it sit for a while and go to leave it will have already acted up before I put it in gear. So I don't think its a mileage problem.

OK, I'm a bit confused. Are you guys saying that LBZ tunes can now be changed on-the-fly, using the V2? Is this a public release or Beta? If public, what needs updated (EFI software, V2, both)?

OK, I'm a bit confused. Are you guys saying that LBZ tunes can now be changed on-the-fly, using the V2? Is this a public release or Beta? If public, what needs updated (EFI software, V2, both)?

No, I believe this is just an update for the LB7/LLY guys to allow switching via the V2. The LBZ tuning is still in the works from what ive read. Check this thread out.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261497

Oh, so this just gives the LB7/LLY folks the opportunity to do on-the-fly tune changes without the need for an actual hardwired switch. Bummer, I was getting excited.

Cindy,
Heres someting that might help a little, today while driving the truck it did this again so i checked for codes one more time, and this is what i got this time:
Diagnostic Trouble Codes
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($1A) "Transfer Case Shift Control Module (TCSCM)"
C0055 "Rear Wheel Speed Sensor (both wheels) Circuit" M ($29) "Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM)"
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($40) "Body Control Module (BCM) or Dash Integration Module (DIM)"
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($58) "Inflatable Restraint Sensing and Diagnostic Module (SDM)"
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($85) "Rear Seat Entertainment (RSE) Assembly"
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($97) "Mobile Communication System (Onstar)"
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($98) "HVAC Control Module"
U1016 "Lost Class 2 Communications With Engine Controller - Device $10" H ($98) "HVAC Control Module"
U1000 "Class 2 Data Link" H ($A7) "Rear Seat Audio Controller (RSA)"
History data

The DSP5 switch works really well and you can change tunes on the fly. With twin turbos they dyno from about 300hp to well over 500. Having 5 tunes seemed like a good idea but in reality it'll get the same mileage on 4 as with a smaller tune, plus it's a whole lot more fun to drive. Mine stays on 4 most of the time except for occasionally when it's put on 5. Doing it over again I'd probably just use a two-position toggle switch.

Oh, so this just gives the LB7/LLY folks the opportunity to do on-the-fly tune changes without the need for an actual hardwired switch. Bummer, I was getting excited.

You should be getting excited. The whole point of V2 switching on the LB7 ans LLY controller is to developthe functionality for the 32 bit Bosch controller in the LBZ/LMM. They started with the Defli controllers because they already had a stable DSP platform with which to test it on.

guys its not the dsp platform that matters, that is the easy part for the efi guys, its the ability to be able to full flash the controller. the switching via v2 was an easy task, and released it for the lb7/lly guys for testing because they have the ability to full flash.

I've had my five positions for just over a week. I'm turnin my DSP2 switch into a switch for my aux lights now cuz 5 positions work perfect for me. I instantly filled up the first 4 with my favorite tunes. The fifth one was the only one that took a bit of thinking. Stock, Light Trailer Towing/Daily Driver, "Cummins Eater", Smoke, and Smoke w/ Intimidating Idle. Works for me. I'd rather have more choices and not use them, than be limited.

I've had my five positions for just over a week. I'm turnin my DSP2 switch into a switch for my aux lights now cuz 5 positions work perfect for me. I instantly filled up the first 4 with my favorite tunes. The fifth one was the only one that took a bit of thinking. Stock, Light Trailer Towing/Daily Driver, "Cummins Eater", Smoke, and Smoke w/ Intimidating Idle. Works for me. I'd rather have more choices and not use them, than be limited.

I never had the guts to try a smoke tune... Just sounds like a bad idea.... Whats your Intimidating idle tune made up of?

The smoke does bother me and I definantly have tuned it down a lot I know that. The modified idle is just that rough idle lope, where you make it sorta sound like its cammed out. I've messed around with it trying to make it less rough but its still an annoyance. So its rarely used right now. Just more of a show off in parking lots.

Any chance I could check out your smoke tune?

Yeah I'll have to see what I can do. I don't have internet at home so I'll see if I can bring my laptop in to work and get it sent to you. Its just a toned down version of the 'joefarmers' smoke tune in the library.

hey chevyburnout have you got yours working right? Are you still having the idle down problem

I do still have the problem. Its actually getting worse. I've gotten where it idle's down about 4 times now before the problem goes away. With about one minute between each symptom. Always after my truck sits for a period of time. I'm going to try to create another DSP5 program and run through all the updates again on my V2 just to make sure everything is correct. I remember the first time I flashed the DSP5 into my truck it had no throttle control at all, just stuck at idle. Found out I didn't have the correct/missing files in my V2.

Another problem I just ran acrossed was I can't Black Box Log. I hit record and about three seconds later an error message with a number pops up. Can't remember off hand what it was but when I get home I'll get it written down.

yep that sounds about exactly what mine does four times then its fine. I did get some codes with mine that didnt show up at first with pass thru, all were lost communications type. I sent them into efi so hopefully that will help. Im going to try and build a new DSP tune today also hopefully it helps, it sure is a pain when your trying to get somewhere.

Especially shuttin the truck off with the turbo still crankin at 900 degrees. I was gettin a few codes but they didn't seem to extreme with it. I let them know too. Is your Laramie residence perminant? Not going to school up there are ya? Ever visit Fort Collins on the weekend?

yeah actually i am going to school up here, i try to make it down there i have a cousin that lives down in fort collins.

Nice. I'm usually out cruisin Fort Collins on Friday nights. Flag me down if ya want to meet up.

Alright ill have to do that next time im down there.

I have had DSP5 switchable from the V2 for some time now and it works perfect. I do prefer the dash mounted switch though...as it is always there.
Just yesterday I took my truck for a drive after several weeks of adding mods and I did not have the V2 with me....still don't know which tune I drove with.
For tuning it is a perfect thing to have, for daily driving my DSP2 is just fine.

any update on the idle down problem. I have been running a DSP5 tune for the last 6 months using a hardwired switch, I just updated both my 7.5 and 8.1 and then created a new DSP5 tune, now I'm having the idle down issues also. I'm still switching it with the hardwired switch so its not limited to the V2 part of it. 3 times I had to shut the truck off and the 4th time it fixed itself after 20-30 seconds. I didn't have the V2 hooked up to log it but I will try that tomorrow. I'm also going to try flashing my old DSP5 back and see if it goes away.

Interesting. This may open up a new can of worms on our problem. Took my truck to work today and it only idled down twice this time. I think I may just flash my DSP2 back in tonight untill I hear back from Ross or Cindy. I did however get my BBL to work. Had the memory set to SD Card instead of Internal.:rolleyes:

Hey CRD, PM me your e-mail for that smoke tune.

acrider2 can you please let me know what OS you are using?

chevyburnout1 Ross has started the investigation process and hopefully we will have some clues as to what is going on next week.

Cheers
Cindy

Cindy,
My stock OS is 15189044 The DSP5 OS that gives me problems is 03904405 V6 my old DSP5 that works is the same OS but V5. Today was my first day driving it again since I originally reported the problem. It was worse today. I started BBL as soon as I started it to see if anything would show up on there. I stuck to the side streets knowing what was going to happen. It did it 3 times and need to be shut off and restarted everytime. The 4th time I waited 20-30 seconds again and all was fine. I was stopped at a stop sign so I hit cancel on the V2 to save the log file. Went to go and had no throttle. Shut the truck off and now it wouldn't restart. Cranked but no fuel. Tried that a few times with no luck. Unpluged the V2 and it started right up. Figured I was good to go now. Drove about a mile and stoped at a red light. Went to go and no throttle again. Idleed around the corner and got half off the road to try to shut it off and restart. Again this time it would not start. Just crank with no fuel. I had my laptop with so I full flashed back to my stock tune and it started right up. I have now put my old DSP5 back on and it seems to be working fine on that. Looked at the log and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

I cant get the upgrade to DSP5 V2 operating system so show up...what am I missing? Everything is updated.

You need to be running our BBL V8.1.1 software. Once that's installed you can download and install the DSP files which can be found http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261497

Please ensure after extraction that the programming files are stored in \Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Calibrations **NOTE you will probably have to move them to this location.

Cheers
Cindy

does the BBL software need to physically be running while trying to perform the upgrade? I already have it installed.

i get this nice little error while tryin to install file.

Well I got it to work finally, just had to re download the files and redo it...must have had a glitch the first time i downloaded it...not sure though.

i get this nice little error while tryin to install file.

Looks like something messed up during the file download. You will need to download the DSP files again.

Cheers
Cindy

Well I got it to work finally, just had to re download the files and redo it...must have had a glitch the first time i downloaded it...not sure though.
Glad you got it sorted.

Cheers
Cindy

I've posted the below in the original DSP V2 Pre-Release thread, but thought I'd post it here too given the discussion. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261497


Note: There has been a few reports of intermittent limp mode when using the new DSP5 OS 03904405, please don't upgrade your 15189044 factory OS to the new DSP5 until we solve this issue.

Cheers
Cindy

Cindy,
My stock OS is 15189044 The DSP5 OS that gives me problems is 03904405 V6 my old DSP5 that works is the same OS but V5.

I had my laptop with so I full flashed back to my stock tune and it started right up. I have now put my old DSP5 back on and it seems to be working fine on that. Looked at the log and I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

Can you please email Ross your old DSP5 and your new DSP5 tune files to ross at efilive dot com.

For everyone else - Ross is currently working on a solution.

Cheers
Cindy

I just sent them to him. I did have luck creating a script of the new DSP5 I made and ran it on one of my V5 OS DSP5 tunes and it is working good.

Cindy,

quick question,

and on the V2 #1 in "select custom tune" says STOCK tune, is that what it will be?

and number 3 says ECONOMY, which DSP # will that relate too?

The #1 position or "STOCK" on the V2 is your main calibration tables. The ones you have circled in the picture. Then #2 on the V2 is your DSP Program #1, and so on. The labels on the V2 are just the default names. You can change them for whatever tune is loaded into it.

Good luck Cindy, Ross. And everyone else workin on this problem. Appreciate all the hard work and this great program that you'al have come up with.

Ross has developed a new set of files which are now in testing. If initial testing goes well I'll post the files here later in the week.

Cheers
Cindy

Ive also tried to update to a DSP OS and cannot get the V6 ID. Are the files Ross is working on fix this or am I just missing something? I tried upgrading my stock tune 4 times and still get V5, even with different custom OS.

Ive also tried to update to a DSP OS and cannot get the V6 ID. Are the files Ross is working on fix this or am I just missing something? I tried upgrading my stock tune 4 times and still get V5, even with different custom OS.

When you go to extract the files you MUST ensure that you point these files to the correct directories - they won't automatically extract to the correct location. Once you move the file to \Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Calibrations you'll get V6.

Cheers
Cindy

Thanks Cindy!!!

Switching via V2 made it into public release overnight. The issue reported in one of the LB7 OS's has now been fixed and is available in this release.

Cheers
Cindy

Cindy,
Thanks to the EFIlive crew for all the hard work getting that problem fixed, you guys really are the best. :)

Right on I'll have to check it out again!

Switching via V2 made it into public release overnight. The issue reported in one of the LB7 OS's has now been fixed and is available in this release.

Cheers
Cindy

Was there any change from the last beta relase (the first one that fixed the fuel filter minder reset problem on the 05LLY's) to the public release?

Was there any change from the last beta relase (the first one that fixed the fuel filter minder reset problem on the 05LLY's) to the public release?
Only the faulty LB7 OS was changed - there were no changes made to LLY since the version you're running.

Cheers
Cindy