I have been reading this forum and have found SO MANY opinions. I would love to come to decision about the 2 products. There have been comparisons between the 2. Most of them are specific and not really geared to a novice. I have asked both Banks/Edge for info and all I have gotten is fluff. What I am looking for is a difference between the 2 and what they really do. I have read that Edge let's you adjust the EGT and possibly more. I have no idea why I want to do that. Is it a good thing to be able to do this?? Why wont Banks let me do that (or will they). I have been reading this forum looking for answers but most explanation are between someone that already knows about the product. I have been to a dealer here in Vegas and as usual they have no clue. It's very hard to disseminate a decision to buy on one or the other. So many people have so many negative things about each product. I want to tow my 37' toy hauler and keep the safety of the Tranny in mind but I also want to be able to have the best possible performance. I was thinking about getting some tranny work done. NOT too extreme but enough to help out the Edge/Banks. I am coming up on 36,000 and the warranty is ending. I was planning on getting a extended warranty. I want a performance "box" that I can take out if I have to go to the dealership. How is the Edge or Banks in that regard. In your personal opinion can you give me a reason NOT to buy the banks and get the Edge or vise versa.

I know that most of you are tired of talking about this but please help someone out that has not-a-clue.

Thanks so much for taking the time.

Take care

Chop.

U need to say which motor u have?

The LLY boxes have been having some trouble from both companies right now.

The attitude shows u the EGT which is nice instead of just defueling.

I guess being able to set the EG temp and also override it is handy if others or spouse is driving the truck and u want to have a bigger safety cushion.

Edge comes out real easy.

Neither will allow you to "adjust" egt's. What you can do with both is "adjust" the power level on the fly to reduce egt's as you are pulling a hill.

Lots of people have Edge and like/dislike. Same goes for Banks. I have a Banks Six Gun Bundle w/Speedloader on my 05. I love how it works. I have the new PDA controler on order that Banks is coming out with. I went with Banks (yes it's more money) because it was a complete package ( pipes, tuner, gages). Also for there rep.
I'm sure you will hear from the Edge boys also.

I like the banks stuff I have.

The edge will allow you to adjust when its EGT back down feature kicks, banks is preset from the factory. Each box will sense when a certian EGT is reached and will start pulling away fuel(reducing power too) to bring the EGT's down. With the edge product you can do it with a few clicks of the display.

What year truck do you have? LB7 or LLY?

On an LB7...... If you are thinking maybe trany work in the future and also more performance then edge blows banks away. There is only so much power you can put to a stock trans and both pretty much stay within that on thier lower tunes. Edge has a much higher HP "hot" tune though. Remember though that you need to turn the box down for towing and not just think you can set your box to kill and the box will defuel and your trans will be 100% safe. Niether banks or edge are 100% trans safe. If its sensing slip and pulling out fuel that becasue there is slip there in the first place!

Edit: IMO banks "package" is way overpriced. You can get exhaust elsewere and intakes dont add much HP per $$$ and you are better off with factory IMO

U need to say which motor u have?
Sorry man, 02 2500HD D/A CC SB

Thanks.

Edge Juice

Or drive over to Mike L. in CA and get your trans done and have him get you a switchable TTS extreme. tow race and extreme:ro)

I might be apt to get the trans work done now and throw a hot juice at it though. If you know you are getting trans work anywho might as well get it now and get the hot juice now. Hot OJ compared to a banks is like comparing a new Vette to a civic with a wing and a fart can.

TTS is nice and driveable and makes for a really running MF

If you want somebody to talk to in LV forget the dealers. Send me a PM and I'll give you a couple names that work with both products on a regular basis.

I've been very happy with my Six-Gun. Monitors the tranny closer for less chance of limp - even with the tranny monitoring that the Edge does, there are still many stories of limping the tranny when the power is turned up too high.

The Attitude is really cool, but I didn't need all that whiz-bang. I also tow a big fifth (38 ft), about 14,500 lbs. You would be very happy with either, I think.

Marc

They are both good boxes to go with. As far as comparing the two units. This is what I've found.
Towing - Banks. Has a little more down at the bottom than the juice (or Hot OJ).
Playing (racing) - Juice. Has a little more at the top and seems to get it there a little faster.
I've been very happy with mine (Banks). The Edge is easier to remove but both can be. BOTH will require a trans upgrade if you want to run in the higher levels. For towing though you'll want to turn it down no matter which unit you run. I run mine on level 3 when the trailer is hooked up and don't have any problems pulling the trailer.

I dont believe it "monitors" it closer. I have heard stories of people limping it with the banks product.

The deal with the edge is that you can turn it up higher.

The way banks rates thier products is misleading and a joke IMO.

If you are talking with a upgraded trans and running the highest level the juice will allow a juice flat out puts down more power. ALOT more power. Plain and simple the juice puts out more power, the attitude allows more adjustability, and the edges customer service rocks. Some people say that they have great customer service from banks and thats good but I dont believe I have ever heard anything but glowing reviews of edges service.

If you want maximum power thats drivable/safe/switchable/baby smooth then TTS wins though IMO. But you really need a built trans to run the big dog program. Gotta have a built trans to run the high levels of the juice though.

If you dont mind the thought of a trans upgrade then :grd: now, cruise over to Inglewood and visit Mike and dont even bother looking at the weenie boxes.

If no trans upgrade tow in the lowest level and stick it on the 90hp level max unloaded on the juice(or what ever brand you want).

The Edge with attitude puts down ALOT more power than the 6-gun with speedloader? This isn't the case at all with a stock tranny. I've raced, I've won.

Go with the edge i have a 01 and it's been trouble free for the most part and if anything goes wrong with the edge just give them a call and they will take care of you the best customer service i ever delt with period. dave

......If you are talking with a upgraded trans and running the highest level the juice will allow a juice flat out puts down more power. ALOT more power. Plain and simple the juice puts out more power.....
I wasnt, If you think I am wrong with the above statement then please leme know;)

He commented on not having a problem modding his trans.

I know some of you have raced another truck with the banks/edge. Who won and by how far. Is it that noticable.?

i am purchasing the hot juice attitude and have the six gun speedloader i will be comparing the two april 2 or april 6 weather permiting at the dragway expect a post. my six gun has safety features defeated and full power in fifth so this will be a true test of how close they are, i was told that the new pda will allow you to do the same things that mine already has done do not know how true this is , i am happy with the gun and would buy it again if i didn't have my tranny done, i have raced a 125 juice regular cab and we were dead even depending on who got the jump off the line

i am purchasing the hot juice attitude and have the six gun speedloader i will be comparing the two april 2 or april 6 weather permiting at the dragway expect a post. my six gun has safety features defeated and full power in fifth so this will be a true test of how close they are, i was told that the new pda will allow you to do the same things that mine already has done do not know how true this is , i am happy with the gun and would buy it again if i didn't have my tranny done, i have raced a 125 juice regular cab and we were dead even depending on who got the jump off the line
Thanks bro, that's the kind of stuff I wanted to know.

Chop.

Banks/ Pro's 1. smoother normal driving (especially on higher settings) 2. power is stepped up during warm up.

Banks/Con's 1. power is added later in the power curve (this is why its smoother to drive, but posts slower 1/4 mile and 0-60 times)

EDGW/ Pro's 1. faster 1/4 mile and 0-60 times 2. attitude display (although Banks has PDA coming out)

EDGE/ Con's 1. no power added till warm 185 F 2. very twitchy on light excel when on higher settings.


Bottom line, Both will tow good with comparable EGT and Trans protection, both have some growing pains. For the most acceleration get EDGE, but its weird to drive lightly and some complain about the warm up wait. For smooth power but less race performance go with BANKS

I've raced my friend's truck with the Edge with attitude. Both trucks are extended cab short box's with an aftermarket intake. Mine has the Banks exhaust while his was stock. Both are running 265's. Both are LB7 automatics, with no tranny work done. We've raced several times. He set his Juice to it's highest setting (125hp) with low boost fueling set to it's highest setting and defuel only on the 4-5 shift. I set my 6-gun with speedloader on level 5 (124hp). Every time it was the same outcome. I was SLIGHTLY ahead of him when we hit the speed limiter. I have yet to race him on level 6. I'm sure the Hot Juice will outpace mine, but it doesn't do you any good with a stock tranny to begin with.

Banks is Safer, they designed their system to work under the engineering designs from chevy, the other systems can over pressurize your fuel system and after a few years you can develop leaks, on a 40,000. Truck I wanted to get more power but now screw it up. I went with the Banks 6 Gun Bundle, it also comes with a big waste gate the others do not!

I went with Banks 6G/SL so I could "set it and forget it" for 90% of my driving, but be able to back down the power "on the fly" for Michigan winter driving. I have the speedloader option so I have EGT protection, in fact the only difficult part was installing the EGT probe. The Banks would take more time to remove than the Edge, but if you have the Attitude monitor, either way you're pulling cables through the firewall.

In 30,000 miles with the Banks I have had zero problems, towed my travel trailer over 5,000 miles, and shut down plently of unsuspecting people who thought they could take my truck at a stoplight. I run in L3 for the most part, use L4 for "intended acceleration" and L2 when the roads get really slick. My unit is reflashed with the more agreesive timing and L3/L4 are very satisfying levels of power for me.