Who makes the narrowest 34-35in tire to fit on stock 17"x7.5" wheels?

The best I can find are Toyo 285/75R17 (34x11.50R17) AT's or MT's, and I'm looking for more ideas...

Good question....im leaning towards the BFG AT 315-70-17 on my stock 17's

Yeah, I would love to run BFG's but I don't want to do the 315's. I want to stay narrow for three reasons: 1) less rolling resistance i.e. better fuel milage, 2) i do lots of winter snow driving and prefer narrow for deep snow, 3) I think the stock wheels are too narrow for the 315's. I don't want the "roll".

I don't want to lift the truck to clear the tires, I just want to fill the wheel wells.

I think Toyo is the best I can find for 34-35" diameter in narrow width. Any other ideas?

I live in Central Arkansas so we don’t have alot of snow so I like a little bit of width to my tires.....I went to Toyo's site and there 285 MT is just as tall as bfg's 315 AT lol.

I’m sure weight is close to the same too....the price diff is what is keeping me from pulling the trigger on the toyo's.....$300-$450 depending on the site or local dealer.

I live in Central Arkansas so we don’t have alot of snow so I like a little bit of width to my tires.....I went to Toyo's site and there 285 MT is just as tall as bfg's 315 AT lol.


The 285 and 315 indicate width, not height. The aspect ratio and rim size (2nd and 3rd #'s) will tell you the height (although you need the width for this as well).
That is why narrower (smaller #'s) tires can be taller, depending on the aspect ratio (70, 75, etc) and rim size.
I love my Toyo's, although honestly, the 10 ply (load range E) kind of ride like crap. I don't haul anything, and they ride ruff. I love the traction, and the relative low noise (for a MT) but need to find a slightly less aggressive tire in a D range.
my .02

BFG Mud or Pro Comp XAT are 35X12.5. Im running them on an 8", 7.5 might work.

[quote=Big Angry;2841543]The 285 and 315 indicate width, not height. The aspect ratio and rim size (2nd and 3rd #'s) will tell you the height (although you need the width for this as well).
That is why narrower (smaller #'s) tires can be taller, depending on the aspect ratio (70, 75, etc) and rim size.

Yes I realize (285,315 etc) indicates width…….I abbreviated in my post earlier with 285 and 315 because Id figured it would get the point across just as well as typing 285x75x17 etc.

When I made the statement that the Toyo 285x75x17 was just about as tall as the 315x70x17 Bfg I was referring to the manufacturers inflated dimensions specs on there web site: Toyo MT at a 34.1 and Bfg AT at 34.5.

Everyone I talk to seems to be happy with there Toyo's.....Ive always been a Bfg man but Im thinking its time for a change so my next set will be Toyo.

Whats the average mileage you guys get out of them?

A wider tire is always going to be better in snow. Gives more of a foot print and when aired down allows for more flotation.

Take a look at swampers, they are aggressive but they had a 34x10.50 when I used to wheel years ago.

A wider tire is always going to be better in snow. Gives more of a foot print and when aired down allows for more flotation.

Take a look at swampers, they are aggressive but they had a 34x10.50 when I used to wheel years ago.


Cough cough ....


maybe in S. California snow, but in Wisconsin, narrow tall is better in snow. Much better. Like not getting stuck better. Think pulling your wide tired buddy up the hill better.

jb

I spec'd out all of the tires in this size range. All of them state that the minimum rim width is 8.5 with the exception of pro comp which states 8.0. The smallest 35, by their paper specs, is the Mickey Thompson MTZ 315/70. I think it was only 11.9" section width. I also was looking for the narrowest to try to fit some 35's on 17x8's with only a t-bar crank and some trimming. I had a local shop test fit a bfg at 315 and it wasn't even close. Had to bite the bullet and buy a 6" lift - which I intended to put on this weekend but I live in Houston and we're fixing to jam north. BTW all the specs I pulled were for 17's. Get a piece of paper and a pencil and visit all the tire sites, they'll tell you the EXACT specs for the tire, as they all are a little different.

Really, that is strange. All the wheeling I do in the local mountains everyone runs wide tires, 10-12 in rims, and air'em down to around 5pounds. Don't see anyone out there with little pizza cutters. I don't think you do enough wheel'n if you want a thin tire, in the snow, mud, or otherwise.

Snow is like the sand, you need a wide foot print to be able to spread the weight of the truck on the tires so you don't dig in. You want to float on the top. I know, I know, I have no idea what I'm talking about. 10 years of riding at Glamis and every truck, quad, rail, bike out their airs their skinny tires up because it really helps.

If you get around with thin tires in the snow, you don't have enough snow to make a difference. When the stuff gets deep a wider tire is better hands down. I mean all those big trucks that pull all the stupid people out of mud holes, they always have skinny tires none of them run large 37-44" inchers on 12-14 wheels. They like those cool 9.5-10" tires that are stock because they have such awesome traction. Grab a magazine and take a look, go out and see what the real wheelers are doing, you are wrong.

A friend of mine once had 35x10.5 boggers on his truck

Really, that is strange. All the wheeling I do in the local mountains everyone runs wide tires, 10-12 in rims, and air'em down to around 5pounds. Don't see anyone out there with little pizza cutters. I don't think you do enough wheel'n if you want a thin tire, in the snow, mud, or otherwise.

Snow is like the sand, you need a wide foot print to be able to spread the weight of the truck on the tires so you don't dig in. You want to float on the top. I know, I know, I have no idea what I'm talking about. 10 years of riding at Glamis and every truck, quad, rail, bike out their airs their skinny tires up because it really helps.

If you get around with thin tires in the snow, you don't have enough snow to make a difference. When the stuff gets deep a wider tire is better hands down. I mean all those big trucks that pull all the stupid people out of mud holes, they always have skinny tires none of them run large 37-44" inchers on 12-14 wheels. They like those cool 9.5-10" tires that are stock because they have such awesome traction. Grab a magazine and take a look, go out and see what the real wheelers are doing, you are wrong.


I think the issue here is how much snow. Normally, there's some ground under there that you can dig to with a skinny tire. This is always the case on a road. Even off-road, I think you'd be hard pressed to " Float" a 7k# truck on the snow no matter how wide the tire.

Sand is not snow.

[quote=Big Angry;2841543]The 285 and 315 indicate width, not height. The aspect ratio and rim size (2nd and 3rd #'s) will tell you the height (although you need the width for this as well).
That is why narrower (smaller #'s) tires can be taller, depending on the aspect ratio (70, 75, etc) and rim size.

Yes I realize (285,315 etc) indicates width…….I abbreviated in my post earlier with 285 and 315 because Id figured it would get the point across just as well as typing 285x75x17 etc.

When I made the statement that the Toyo 285x75x17 was just about as tall as the 315x70x17 Bfg I was referring to the manufacturers inflated dimensions specs on there web site: Toyo MT at a 34.1 and Bfg AT at 34.5.

Everyone I talk to seems to be happy with there Toyo's.....Ive always been a Bfg man but Im thinking its time for a change so my next set will be Toyo.

Whats the average mileage you guys get out of them?
Ok, gotcha.

I've gotten about 20k on my Toyo's since I switched from BFG's. Not real loud, similar to the Cooper STT's I ran for a while, but those always "wondered" a bit until they warmed a bit. I'd say I'll get another 12-15 out of my Toyo's but the ride is real stiff due to the 10 ply E range. If I could get these in a 6 ply (in the size I want), I think these would be a nearly perfect tire. I'm not sure what I'll run next when these wear out.

Super Swamper 35-10.50 Ssr Radial Or 36-12.50 Old Style Radial The 36'' Is Just A Tic Over 35'' On 8'' Rim.

I appreciate your input Big Angry…I’m glad you pointed out the load rating because Id like to keep the ride decent and hell I don’t ever haul or pull anything so im probably going to stick with trying to find a 6 ply tire in the size i want...unless I run across a crack head deal on some toyo's :cool:

Really, that is strange. All the wheeling I do in the local mountains everyone runs wide tires, 10-12 in rims, and air'em down to around 5pounds. Don't see anyone out there with little pizza cutters. I don't think you do enough wheel'n if you want a thin tire, in the snow, mud, or otherwise.

Snow is like the sand, you need a wide foot print to be able to spread the weight of the truck on the tires so you don't dig in. You want to float on the top. I know, I know, I have no idea what I'm talking about. 10 years of riding at Glamis and every truck, quad, rail, bike out their airs their skinny tires up because it really helps.

If you get around with thin tires in the snow, you don't have enough snow to make a difference. When the stuff gets deep a wider tire is better hands down. I mean all those big trucks that pull all the stupid people out of mud holes, they always have skinny tires none of them run large 37-44" inchers on 12-14 wheels. They like those cool 9.5-10" tires that are stock because they have such awesome traction. Grab a magazine and take a look, go out and see what the real wheelers are doing, you are wrong.

Well, you do what makes you happy. I'll do what keeps me moving in the deep snow. By the way, how wide do you have to be to "float" a 8000 pound truck on the snow? Next time you find 18" of the white stuff on the gound, let me know...

18", that is little. I mean 2-4 feet. And yes the larger tire will float a truck our size. Heck a stock tire will float our trucks but the larger foot print of a 12.5-14.5" will let you go farther down the trail. You'll drop in the powder but sit on top of the rest. This is aired down. If not aired down doesn't matter the tire size, you'll get wheel hop.

Look not trying to be a jerk. Just giving years of experience. Pick up any hard core off road mag this winter. No one runs skinny tires. There are tons of mountain trails in socal that the mags run on. I know I have been there. Minimum tire size on the trail runs is 35's. Most of the time if you are not running a 39" and above you wont go anywhere.

As you said cougar do what makes you happy....I'm know I'm not going to change your mind. Still though pick a mag in the winter and see how many skinny tire trucks are running the trails. Never too late to learn.

Are you guys both talking about the same thing? I know a lot of people in the Northeast prefer narrower tires for winter driving on the highways. But I also know that if "snow wheeling" on trails, then wider tires aired down seem to be the ticket. Not sure if you are both talking about winter wheeling on trails exclusively, or a good mix for daily driving. I think that is what the original topic was about, a good compromise between the two.

The original topic was really about tire options - narrow 35's to fit an LMM without a lift, and to maintain the least rolling resistance for best mileage. I personally am always pulling a snowmobile trailer in the winter and if I get into 2-4' of snow I would rather be on the sled anyway.

Thanks for all of your input, the Interco was one I didn't think of. I am leaning towards a 295/70/17 Cooper or a 285/75/17 Toyo.

I have always run 285/75/16 BFG's on all my other trucks and have had very good luck in the snow both on road and off with a trailer in tow. I definitely don't see the need to go wider

As they say, different strokes for different folks. I do know that my Kawasaki mule with 12.5" wide tires at 7.5 psi will sink in 18" of snow and sit on the frame happily spinning the tires, going nowhere until you winch it 50' forward. Then winch it 50' forward, then winch it 50' forward. It weighs about 1500-1600 pounds and has a wider tire than my 8000# truck and a lower pressure with softer sidewalls than I can run without breaking the bead. Yet, it still won't float on top of the snow we get. I wouldn't want to winch the truck !

Maybe your snow is different? Dunno. Either way, enjoy the outdoors.

jb