I am looking at turbo back exhaust systems and was wondering if anyone has an opinion for who has the most bang for the buck? MBRP too expensive/i am leaning toward summit or jeg's 4" ss. any ideas or help appriciated

I'm with you, I think by the time a person gets the cat back from MBRP and then has to add the front pipe at over $100 and then add tips at $60+ you're talking some serious cash - just for exhaust!!! I'm leaning toward the summit for half the money. I can do a little jerry-riggin' if needed for the savings.

Most of the people on this board have been very happy with their MBRP 409 or 305 stainless, both as to fit and performance. I bought a non-stainless MBRP that was poor quality, poor fit and look like it had been used. I wasn't happy, but the manufacturer and the selling dealer have contacted me finally. Several friends of mine have bought the cheap $250 4" sets off ebay and they all are very happy with them. Fit was excellent. One guy bought stainless for $275 off ebay several months ago (Dec?) and it fit fine. 4" exhaust is 4" exhaust, unless you want the polished 305 or live in an area that has salt problems or other things that will cause exhaust corrosion. I don't and I sell vehicles every two years. My MBRP arrived rusty! The MBRP 305 is very pretty if you have a show queen, but after an hours run in time, it is very doubtful if the interior of the pipe will make any difference over 409 or just plain ol exhaust pipe. You pay your money and you make your choice!

if you are looking for inexpensive, but ok...then check out RPMoutlet.com, they have a complete 4" aluminum turbo back for $299. (SS $399) Beware of their customer support and shipping practices otherwise you will be content with the purchase. any other time I would say support the vendors, but if you want bang for the buck thats it.

I had this system a while back ,but sold it due to not having the EGR patches and throwing codes.

I have the Summit. With shipping, band clamps, and tip it was $390. I bought too many band clamps, or it would have been about $375. I don't think you can beat the price, but it is pretty loud. I have gotten used to it now so I don't mind, even towing. passengers do complain a bit.

MBRP inc. is excellent quality, perfect fit. be careful guys. in life you get what you pay for

Yea, what Gonemax said! :ro)

Gardnerteam: 4" exhaust is 4" exhaust" :eek: Hush yo' mouth! ):h

My MBRP cool dual aluminized exhaust arrived today. OK it's a bunch of pipes. However I put quite a bit of stock in the DP members opinions and the MBRP systems get consistently high marks. $40k+ truck, cheap exhaust, not on my Dumax! :exactly: JJ :)

JJ,

Noticed your on a buying spree lately. Must be hiding the checkbook from Mama JJ....hehehehe. Wait tilll she sees the month end statement......hehehe

I think I paid $200 for a straight thru 4" aluminized pipe. It fit poorly, and required cutting even though my truck is the longest model made.

If I had to do it over? I'd get a better system. I wasted a whole day installing the POS.

If I'm spending $70,000 on my truck the last thing I want to do is cheap out over a couple hundred bucks.

I have the Summit. With shipping, band clamps, and tip it was $390. I bought too many band clamps, or it would have been about $375. I don't think you can beat the price, but it is pretty loud. I have gotten used to it now so I don't mind, even towing. passengers do complain a bit.

I paid $423 for my MBRP Stainless, WITH the tip.......

Get a decent, proven system. The rest of your vehicle isn't a POS, why allow one of the functing systems of your drivetrain be a POS?

Let me put it this way: if I can save a few hundred bucks, that's a few hundred bucks I can spend on other go fast parts. I can't seem to justify twice the money for the same performance. Yes I drive a $45K truck, I drive it because I wanted it. To drive this truck I need to make some sacrifices. If it's sacrificing a Saturday to install an inexpensive exhaust system - I'm going to do it. I'm all for supporting these venders on this site. If I was made of money I wouldn't even hesitate, I'd all ready have the best thing out there on my truck. As a friend of mine says: "if it don't make it go faster or stop any better - I don't spend money on it." And yes 4" exhaust is 4" exhaust. In the retail field I know what you buy is what you get - sometimes, not all the time. There's plenty of people on here that are just fine/happy with there inexpensive purchases.

Does MBRP make the aluminized version or are they outsourcing it? Being in AZ, I could care less about SS. A nice tip would be a plus, but I can always add that latter if I really don't like the look. I do NOT want to waste a bunch of time trying to put together something that should fit correctly out of the box IMHO when your spending $300+ on tubing.

MBRP makes Aluminized. The fit and finish of the MBRP systems is excellent. Install should take less than 2 hours with a few sockets and a jack.

So why does the front cat replacement pipe cost 30% of what the rest of the kit costs? Seems kinda excessive unless I'm missing something here...

Oilbrnr,

The aluminized systems are the same exact system as the stainless as far as bends and design, just made from aluminized. The front pipe is a priced as it is because it has a heavy duty 4 bolt flange and gasket, plus the V band connection up front. Both of those items are pretty expensive to produce, the tubing is not that much but the flanges, welding, parts and pieces start to add up! Call us if you have any questions etc.

Mark @ DPPI

dojohnson,

Sumpins up? The MBRP cool duals arrived yesterday, Mama JJ wasn't too impressed with her new exhaust system as a Mothers Day present. To quote her "What was wrong with the old exhaust that only has 17k miles on it?" I heard her on the phone later telling one of our daughters that "for some reason he's rebuilding "my" truck!" :) Seems the word "our" truck doesn't roll off her lips very often! She really likes to drive it. :cool:

When I try to explain what I'm doing she just shakes her head! Since early October I have purchased Rancho RS9000 shocks with in-cab controller, E/J w/attitude, Trippins overhead mount and now MBRP cool dual exhaust with SS tips. She hasn't flinched! Think I'll run water injection by her next? :lol:

She keeps threatening to open her own DP account so she can post "The rest of the story"! :smashfrea

As far as this thread "to each his own". I was surprised at just how heavy the aluminized MBRP exhaust is, appears to be heavy duty. Does anyone know the gauge(depth) of metal used on the Summit and other inexpensive systems. If they are too light won't they have a tendency to resonate and vibrate moreso than a heavier exhaust?:confused: I want the performance aspects but I don't want a bunch of noise inside/outside the cab either. JJ

Mark,

I am close to ordering an exhaust system for my 05 lly cc long bed. I wanted a 4" aluminized turbo back system. All the links show a 5" sytem only. Also do I have to purchase the turbo downpipe separately or is it included with the "system"?

Thanks, Erik

This picture shows a down pipe but it looks smaller than the rest of the system.

Ok, sorry for being so slow here, guess I should get under and look at what is there, but either the MBRP 4" or Mark's 5" kit eliminates the cat, and there is no need for the $100+ four bolt flanged piece UNLESS one was just wanting to remove the cat itself and either leave the rest of the OEM system in place, or do something else. Correct?

TexasDeere, I *think* that the turbo outlet is 3" and that is what your seeing in the downpipe connection point in the pic above. It then graduates to 4" and finally to 5" for that particular kit.

The MBRP systems bolt up from the 4 bolt flange back. If you want to replace the Cat, get the optional front-pipe. The MBRP systems are 4" mandrel bent.

mbrp system is the way to go . my truck requires a smog test yearly, the bolt on down pipe for the cat delete

sorry pushed the wrong button,, the bolt on down pipe is the way to go .i just undo the thing and reinstall my cat. smog truck an reinstall down pipe . very easy to me

if you call some of the suporting venders they will give you a better deal than what is listed!!! I payed alot less for my cool duels

That's right, call any of the venders and we will give you guys a better price.

John

I contacted one of the venders via email and asked what the cost would be. I told them I was a diesel place member. They shot me back a price and I went to their website to compare.... same as on the website. That kinda ticked me off!! I know I should've called but I do most of my research at night "after hours."

The other thing that torques me off about these exhaust systems... I checked 3 or 4 of the supporting vendors websites, the cool duals are described as 'turbo back' systems. So why does the front have to be added to the kit when you ask for a quote?

I contacted one of the venders via email and asked what the cost would be. I told them I was a diesel place member. They shot me back a price and I went to their website to compare.... same as on the website. That kinda ticked me off!! I know I should've called but I do most of my research at night "after hours."

The other thing that torques me off about these exhaust systems... I checked 3 or 4 of the supporting vendors websites, the cool duals are described as 'turbo back' systems. So why does the front have to be added to the kit when you ask for a quote?
Did you contact me? Our's are listed as Front-Pipe back not turbo back. Thanks

John

John, I stand corrected. I double checked your website and you do advertise as front pipe back. I did check your website, I apologize for grouping you with the others I was referring to. I'm not going to publicly point fingers. I know there's one website that I re-checked numerous times to see how it was worded and it said turbo back.

No problem, I do my best to make all info correct. When i gather info of the web, I'm like you, it needs to be correct or it appears misleading to the customer. Or at the very least like the company doesn't know the product that they sell. As for price we all buy for different prices therfore we sell at different prices.

John

Question on the MBRP exhaust system:

If you order a turbo back do you get a 4 bolt flange pipe or just another section of 4" pipe? What size is this pipe comming off the turbo? In other words is it 4" immediately off the turbo to the flange or the stock 3.5"?

Thanks for any input

Hell, I am just going to buy Kennedy's 4" system. At least I will know exactly what I am getting. My friend's 2001 Dmax has the Banks system and I never like the way it sounded.

Later

don't get too discouraged, i am in the same boat (er, truck) as you. was looking at the Hog system, but now am leaning toward the MBRP or Kennedy 4".
i was wondering about the front pipe size too and about it coming in a "system"?

Still shoppin

Well boys, the websites that say the MBRP are turbo back are mis-leading. The kit you purchase is from the 4 bolt flange behind the cat on back. If you want the cat elimination pipe you need to also purchase the front pipe in addition to the kit. As far as I know the front pipe is 4" dia but at the V clamp off the turbo it's only 3.5" Can't change that at all.