: I cant make a decision to save my life!
JMac24 03-07-2005, 02:32 PM You would think I was a woman! Anyway. I just for the life of me
cant decide what to do with my 05 CC D/A SB. 4 or 6 on the lift, airbags and springs or blocks, regear or not.
Ill be towing a 31ft travel trailer. My 04 F250 was lifted 4.5 and no problem with axle wrap. Didnt have a problem with 3.73's Anyone tow about 10K with a regear and without? With a lift of four or 6? Already have the edge.....just waiting to install so power isnt my problem.
Max Power 03-07-2005, 03:04 PM Would you ever consider a fifth wheel down the road? If so, I would stay away from a lift.
mannytranny 03-07-2005, 03:33 PM Take all that $$ for mods, invest wisely, retire early, and enjoy the stock truck and trailer........
But thats JMO
jmk2005 03-08-2005, 03:04 PM mannytranny, ahmen to that. I think you are a wise man.
JMac24 03-08-2005, 03:49 PM Take all that $$ for mods, invest wisely, retire early, and enjoy the stock truck and trailer........
But thats JMO
Thats already taken care of. :cool2:
I just cant leave it stock. Its a sickness I think.
I went with a CST 6-8, Deaver springs, airbags for towing.
Once I reached age 32, stock was more than enough for me. Maybe its the "hormonal flow" with these young bucks?
JMac24 03-10-2005, 11:53 AM Once I reached age 32, stock was more than enough for me. Maybe its the "hormonal flow" with these young bucks?
Ill be 31 in Sept. I thinks its more that I dont want it to look like every other 2500 out here. And there are a lot of them.
Jeff@SGLC 03-10-2005, 12:30 PM I'm only 28 and I'm kinda at that stage of leave most of it stock, add a few nice things here or there and done lol.
Heartbeat Hauler 03-10-2005, 01:54 PM Dude, you're already at a disadvantage with the short bed when towing, adding a lift kit will make the problem worse.....in my opinion of course. IF towing is gonna be a frequent thing, then I would invest in parts that allow you to tow better and safer. Things like weight dist. hitch, aux. lighting, better-than-stock mirrors, gps, and rear viewing camera to see what's behind you. If you want something unique maybe a nice set of wheels and tires....you already have the edge so look into a larger exhaust to keep EGTs down and guages to monitor engine operation. In my opinion, if you ain't gonna off-road on a regular basis, and I mean serious off-roadin', I would scrap the lift idea and focus on what the truck will actually be used for most of the time. Either way good luck and keep us updated on what you decide.
JP
JMac24 03-10-2005, 09:22 PM Dude, you're already at a disadvantage with the short bed when towing, adding a lift kit will make the problem worse.....in my opinion of course. IF towing is gonna be a frequent thing, then I would invest in parts that allow you to tow better and safer. Things like weight dist. hitch, aux. lighting, better-than-stock mirrors, gps, and rear viewing camera to see what's behind you. If you want something unique maybe a nice set of wheels and tires....you already have the edge so look into a larger exhaust to keep EGTs down and guages to monitor engine operation. In my opinion, if you ain't gonna off-road on a regular basis, and I mean serious off-roadin', I would scrap the lift idea and focus on what the truck will actually be used for most of the time. Either way good luck and keep us updated on what you decide.
JPI see where you are coming from for sure. A lifted rig isnt the best idea for towing. But I just dont like the look of a stocker. I towed with my lifted Ford with no incident. Not saying it cant happen! I like your ideas bout the camera and GPS tho. Good stuff. I have the Attitude so I can monitor the EGT's Are the tow mirrors on these just awful? Im demothballing the trailer this weekend but still wont tow for a bit. Want some more miles on the beast first.....
diesel man 03-11-2005, 01:58 AM go with a good sized lift . if you are thinking about 4 or six inch always go with the higher one . or you will always wish you went higher . i tow with my 38 inch tires just fine . just have to find the right drop down hitch.
Heartbeat Hauler 03-11-2005, 02:00 PM go with a good sized lift . if you are thinking about 4 or six inch always go with the higher one . or you will always wish you went higher . i tow with my 38 inch tires just fine . just have to find the right drop down hitch.
I can see where you would be more stable towing with your setup, but he says he has a regular cab shortbed! Towing with that thing would be sorta scary without a lift. I tow a 9500lb 5ver and I opted for the D/A 3500, maybe I'm just a little skiddish because I used to tow a car trailer, with my stock car on it, using a '72 Chevy reg. cab short bed. I endoed that thing 3 times before I got stopped. Not fun when the wind starts blowing on an overpass. One man's poison is another man's drink. :)
JP
JMac24 03-11-2005, 03:46 PM I can see where you would be more stable towing with your setup, but he says he has a regular cab shortbed! Towing with that thing would be sorta scary without a lift. I tow a 9500lb 5ver and I opted for the D/A 3500, maybe I'm just a little skiddish because I used to tow a car trailer, with my stock car on it, using a '72 Chevy reg. cab short bed. I endoed that thing 3 times before I got stopped. Not fun when the wind starts blowing on an overpass. One man's poison is another man's drink. :)
JP
Ive got a CC....if you were talking about my truck?
MXdiesel 03-11-2005, 05:42 PM ohh come on u people are to practical!! I have the RCD 6" lift and it looks great, and most of all the truck is still a managable size. Personally 6" is the lowest lift i would prefer, anything less is hardly noticable, even though it still looks good. But if u want a more simple rig more practical for towing maybe you could level the front with like 3", and maybe even add a leaf in the back to make it slightly higer and stiffen the back for towing. My friends have a F-250 4wd, they just leveled the front and put wheels and tires on it and it looks great.
Heartbeat Hauler 03-11-2005, 07:49 PM Ive got a CC....if you were talking about my truck?
Oops...my bad! The extra length makes a difference...lift away...I would hate to sound practical...:lol:
JP
bbpboater 03-11-2005, 07:57 PM I towed a 7400 pound trailer with a short bed extended cab SRW pickup and was lucky to live through it. It took the fire department and EMS an hour and a half to extract me from the truck on a hillside of I-75 in Tennessee. Fortunately, I was not hurt too bad. Now I have a CC long bed dually. I would never do anything to make it unstable while towing. Until you fly through the trees at 65 mph out of control and can hear the wood cracking as you break through the tree tops, you just might not agree.
Paul
JMac24 03-11-2005, 08:41 PM I towed a 7400 pound trailer with a short bed extended cab SRW pickup and was lucky to live through it. It took the fire department and EMS an hour and a half to extract me from the truck on a hillside of I-75 in Tennessee. Fortunately, I was not hurt too bad. Now I have a CC long bed dually. I would never do anything to make it unstable while towing. Until you fly through the trees at 65 mph out of control and can hear the wood cracking as you break through the tree tops, you just might not agree.
Paul
That right there is a baaad day! What happened?
bbpboater 03-14-2005, 08:26 PM I was towing about 65 mph with torsion bars and anti-sway bar in place. The trailer was 32 feet long and started to sway. Once it started to sway, the anti-sway bar held the truck and trailer in a locked straight line. As a result, the trailer sway started steering the truck left, then right, then left, each time with increased amplitude of the sway. I reached for the electric brake controller to pull the trailer back straight behind the truck, but I was too late. The truck swayed too far to the right, skidded sideways peeling the left front tire away from the rim. When the wheel dropped down due to the deflated tire, the truck and trailer rolled over to the left. About 30 feet after the roll, the truck hit the guard rail at about a 45 degreed angle. The trailer broke off the truck, and the truck went end over end over the guard rail and airborn over an 85 foot embankment. The police said I went 125 feet through the air and tops of the trees, then landed nose down about 3/4 of the way down the hillside with the rear wheels caught in a tree. The ems and fire department had to use ladders to reach me in the cab. So, when I see someone towing with a lifted vehicle, I just hope they don't get into a similar situation because the truck and trailer will just roll over. I was so grateful that the trailer stayed on my side of the interstate and no one else was injured. My wife was in a car behind me towing an open trailer with two motorcycles on it - she had nightmares for quite some time afterward.
If someone decides to tow with an unsafe configuration, they are not just risking their lives, but the lives of everyone around them on the highway.
If this accident recount helps one person avoid a big mistake with their truck, it was worth the time to write it down.
Paul
JMac24 03-14-2005, 09:02 PM I was towing about 65 mph with torsion bars and anti-sway bar in place. The trailer was 32 feet long and started to sway. Once it started to sway, the anti-sway bar held the truck and trailer in a locked straight line. As a result, the trailer sway started steering the truck left, then right, then left, each time with increased amplitude of the sway. I reached for the electric brake controller to pull the trailer back straight behind the truck, but I was too late. The truck swayed too far to the right, skidded sideways peeling the left front tire away from the rim. When the wheel dropped down due to the deflated tire, the truck and trailer rolled over to the left. About 30 feet after the roll, the truck hit the guard rail at about a 45 degreed angle. The trailer broke off the truck, and the truck went end over end over the guard rail and airborn over an 85 foot embankment. The police said I went 125 feet through the air and tops of the trees, then landed nose down about 3/4 of the way down the hillside with the rear wheels caught in a tree. The ems and fire department had to use ladders to reach me in the cab. So, when I see someone towing with a lifted vehicle, I just hope they don't get into a similar situation because the truck and trailer will just roll over. I was so grateful that the trailer stayed on my side of the interstate and no one else was injured. My wife was in a car behind me towing an open trailer with two motorcycles on it - she had nightmares for quite some time afterward.
If someone decides to tow with an unsafe configuration, they are not just risking their lives, but the lives of everyone around them on the highway.
If this accident recount helps one person avoid a big mistake with their truck, it was worth the time to write it down.
Paul
Wow, and what mods had you done. Glad to hear you came out of it ok!
Ridge Runner 03-14-2005, 09:59 PM Paul, I will second that; Just give me a truck with a Duramax and a good safe hitch.
Anyone who has towed very much has seen accidents with trailers and wondered what happened. The angels were with you.
bbpboater 03-15-2005, 07:42 AM Just airbags to help with the extra hitch weight and keep the truck running level.
Paul
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