: Fuel Filter Bleeder Screw.......
Minn-Kota 03-05-2005, 05:33 PM Changing the fuel filter today and got a little anxious with the wrench and twisted off the el-cheapo plastic bleeder screw. Censored I got the threads out easily, but now I need a replacement and the truck is dead in the water. If I remember correctly I read that the dealer rapes you for the screw or you can't even purchase it seperately from the filter head.
Any suggestions or know where I can get one quick??
:help:
Got Juice? 03-05-2005, 05:43 PM Dmaxallitech has a stainless steel bleeder screw.
Call him up!
Horse Trainer 03-05-2005, 05:59 PM Second that. The stainless will never let you down. Factory one is a POS!
RonJT 03-05-2005, 06:06 PM You can call Greg at lubespecialist. Same thing happened to me...worst was not the price..I think they wanted like 15.00...it was no one had one.
I called Greg...he had to my door the next day.
dmaxalliTech 03-05-2005, 07:35 PM Greg actually has the s/s screws. You can get the Plastic OEM Screws seperate from the dealer, but its cheaper to get Gregs screw
jholly 03-05-2005, 07:57 PM Not only does Greg have the screws, he has a spiffy valve and tubing to pipe that nasty, smelly diesel out the fender well and into a catch bottle. Really slick, real neat. Best of all it doesn't use one of those yuky plastic screws. General must have been on drugs the day he thought up using a plastic screw there.
Jim
JohnnyO 03-05-2005, 08:08 PM Carefull with the metal screws. The plastic screw is there so if you get over zealous you strip the screw instead of the fuel filter head.
dmaxalliTech 03-05-2005, 08:26 PM I'd run a plastic screw in mine anyday. I have a s/s screw and while it is nice, you have to almost completely remove it to get the fuel out, and you risk loosing it. Plastic screw only takes a crack and when using my handy dandy WIF wrench, you will not strip it out and you cant get enough leverage to do any damage.. Man is that a nice piece... LOL
Horse Trainer 03-06-2005, 10:20 AM In truth, I use Greg's bleeder assembly - change the filters, turn on the lift pump and bleed away. I'm lazy!
Ben46a 03-06-2005, 10:31 AM I havent had any trouble with the plastic screw, but I just ordered a Fumoto valve, 4 pack of double pleat filters, and a bleeder valve from Greg cause it just makes more sense to me to have a valve instead of a screw. Also, as DMAXALLITECH said, the SS screws should have a looser thread engagement to allow air out, or have a slight groove machine for 2/3's the legnth of the threads to allow air out.
Shortcut 03-06-2005, 02:36 PM Actually, I believe Chris was saying the opposite. The plastic is easier to get air past the threads. I don't know cause I don't have the s/s screw but admit that I'm interested in the valve setup from Greg. Diesel is getting too spendy to spill across the frame.
willysrod 03-06-2005, 05:55 PM Hi Guys, I'm a new cummins convert, and have been reading your comments on the Stainless Bleeder valve Greg Has, Do you have Gregs phone number or website to order these ? Being as I', new I have not seen the posts w/ these Numbers.
Jack
04/Dmax
Horse Trainer 03-06-2005, 06:13 PM Greg is: http://www.lubricationspecialistllc.com. He has a large selection of useful stuff.
Shortcut - Isn't the Evergreen Air Museum in McMinnville? 'On my list of places to see - when I travel without horses.
bpicard 03-06-2005, 08:54 PM I'd run a plastic screw in mine anyday. I have a s/s screw and while it is nice, you have to almost completely remove it to get the fuel out, and you risk loosing it. Plastic screw only takes a crack and when using my handy dandy WIF wrench, you will not strip it out and you cant get enough leverage to do any damage.. Man is that a nice piece... LOLThe plastic one has a grove cut from end to head, the length of the screw and at right angle to the threads, which facilitates venting air. I have the SS screw from Greg and noted the same problem. Would it be possible to "MOTO-TOOL" a groove like the plastic one has? What do you think?
Thanks, Brian.
LanduytG 03-06-2005, 09:00 PM The plastic one has a grove cut from end to head, the length of the screw and at right angle to the threads, which facilitates venting air. I have the SS screw from Greg and noted the same problem. Would it be possible to "MOTO-TOOL" a groove like the plastic one has? What do you think?
Thanks, Brian.
Yes some have done this. I have looked into having it machined in when they are made but that is another process and doubles the price. Another option is ti use a flat file on all but the top couple of threads. I have done that before and it works fine.
Greg
dmaxalliTech 03-06-2005, 09:04 PM I think a carefull touch with the moto tool would work well, just dont damage the sealing area.
Shortcut 03-07-2005, 02:10 AM Shortcut - Isn't the Evergreen Air Museum in McMinnville? 'On my list of places to see - when I travel without horses.Yup, Air Museum 3 miles from my house and never been there.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif
Friends have told me that it is beyond words how big the goose is standing next to it. A must see and maybe another 13 yrs of living here I will.
Back to topic-- Does anyone know if the valve and hose that greg sells is meant to stay in place or is it on then off after bleeding?? I assume it could just stay put. Thx
LanduytG 03-07-2005, 07:00 AM Yup, Air Museum 3 miles from my house and never been there.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif
Friends have told me that it is beyond words how big the goose is standing next to it. A must see and maybe another 13 yrs of living here I will.
Back to topic-- Does anyone know if the valve and hose that greg sells is meant to stay in place or is it on then off after bleeding?? I assume it could just stay put. Thx
The valve has been in place on my truck for 24K miles. Best thing since sliced bread.:D
Greg
Minn-Kota 03-07-2005, 10:19 AM Thanks Greg. Hope to see my screw in the mailbox SOON!. hint hint. :D
modified 03-07-2005, 08:14 PM Carry extra bleeder screw with you. You never know when you could break or drop and loose one, and you're SOL.
I bought a few a couple of years back for a few bucks each.
Racor 10MM Vent Plug Kit, Part # RK 30818
At the time, I could only find the factory plastic bleeders at:
http://www.dieselpage.com/vehtype/pgmc66.htm
Maybe the Venders here can get them, but I don't know who.
I will stick with the plastic vents. I've changed about five filters, and bleed other time and am still on the original. Using a 1/2" nut driver and only finger tight is all you need. If you cross-thread or strip the filter housing, word has it a replacement filter housing will cost you around $512.
cjd-cj7 03-08-2005, 09:01 PM I broke mine about a month back. Called all local dealers had them do a search for the closest part was 500 miles away. Anyway I ordered on 2/7 from my local dealer still haven't got the part. Good news is I bought a standard 10M 1.5 thread bolt and slipped the oil ring on it to get bye. I want to get the new one before my make shift repair ripes the oil ring.
WanaDmxsub 03-08-2005, 09:58 PM Here is a thread that shows the valve.
Great idea and very easy to use.
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11278&page=1&pp=10&highlight=valve
Minn-Kota 03-09-2005, 10:39 PM Well I couldn't wait for the SS screw any longer so for under a $1.50 I made my own. Picked up one of those bolts with the allen-wrench style head which also is kinda like a thumb-screw. Don't know the proper name of it. Anyway, it was a 10X20 bolt which is too long so I hacked off 1/4", put a O-ring on it and it fits fine. I just hand-tightened it and away I went. Had to get it running as my AFE Stg II was delivered today and I had to give it a whirl. And whirl it does! Like everyone says: sounds like a jet engine. :exactly:
I think like everyone I had the same problem of the tube being a little too long to fit right. I left the bolts out of the filter housing piece and then I could get it on the turbo inlet. :grd:
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