Which do you like american or foreign tractors?

As long as it runs like it should...

Hard to find an all true american built machine these days where every single part comes from USA. I did look at a Branson Tractor the other day was impressed to see they are cummins powered for being an off breed might have to check 1 out next time i need a compact

Ive seen some cheap china built tractors and the bigger models used a perkins.

I tend to support american and something with a good dealer network. Belurus etc etc can be decent tractors but some times some parts esp older parts can be hard to find

One name says it all, John Deere :D

Been waiting for that comment

One name says it all, John Deere :D

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I think that my name gives you an idea.....

Even spelled Freek with 2 e's

I think that my name gives you an idea.....

Even spelled Freek with 2 e's

Shouldnt it be Freeke? :D

Dad bought a Mahindra, strong for only 41 hp, only thing I don't like is the electric PTO but most brands have it too. Looked at a Montana, has JD tranny in it(the 2 pedal hydro) but decided I didn't want an extra payment at that time, they claim to be american, didn't research fully.

JD is way proud of its stuff but if my full time job was farming that's the way I'd go
Here at my place we have an 84 JD 12hp tractor(diesel), made by Yanmar, still runs like a champ, pulls a 4' bush hog just fine.... still has original clutch and all, no brakes as the linkage is seized

After 1 summer in possession of a Belarus, I doubt I would consider a Non-American tractor ( or a Non-Deere for that matter ).

One possible exception would be a compact like a small Kubota, Kioti, or YanMar, but they would be more of a lawn tractor to me.

I've logged alot of hours on compact tractors as a groundskeeper.I ran 3 cub cadets[1000hrs on each] a kabota[600 hrs] and my own jd [1000 hrs] They are all 30 hp and hydros 4x4. The cubs[mistubishi] were ok but would'nt start in the cold without being plugged in.The mower deck was junk especially the mounts. Very poor hydraulics.
The kobota I'm running now is very light weight. It will only lift 500 lbs off the 3pt. The 1st time we used the rear pto on a grass seeder the pto broke out of the aluminum rear housing causing $1800 worth of damage. Kabota would not cover any of it on warrenty.The mower deck runs too slow to suck the grass up that the front tires runs down.
The jd that I own will run circles around the cub and the kabota. It will lift 1500lbs off the 3pt. the loader will lift 2000lbs up to 5ft. the mower deck is the best cutting and built. the only problem i've had with it is the guage cluster clouds up. Jd replaced it 3 times under warrenty. The jd will start at -20 without being plugged in! It also uses less fuel. The best part is that I paid $7000 less for it than my employer paid for the cubs and kabota. From what I was told the only major component that wasn't american is the yanmar engine. When I bought it ,it was the only compact tractor assembled in america.I think I may have convinced my boss to go green next.

One name says it all, John Deere :D
I'll take my Deere:D

If it's under 75-100 hp it ain't made in America.

Possibly final assembly in America. That's what Deere does. Stickers and lug nuts are all they let the US workers do anymore

If it's under 75-100 hp it ain't made in America.

Possibly final assembly in America. That's what Deere does. Stickers and lug nuts are all they let the US workers do anymore


There is truth to that...

I am pretty sure the 5000 Deeres are built in the Savanah, Georgia plant, while the 6000's are built in Manheim, Germany plant. Massey's are built in Italy as are most small New Hollands...who recently merged with Case-IH, so I would imagine the small CIH tractors are from hte same plant. Kubota is Japanese.

I think the better question is do you go with a major brand or an off brand?

Deere
Case-IH
New Holland

OR
Mahindra
Kioti
Jinma

The latter tend to be cheaper initially, but at what cost? Part availibility? Resale? Longevity? When we make tractor decisions we go name brand. We bought three JD 5425Ns a couple years ago and they now have 2000hrs. They had some quirks, with the pto switch and the front drivelines, but Deere took care of them in the first year and we didn't have any troubles the second. Given Deere's reputation, I fully expect 10,000+ hours from them. What do you expect from a Jinma?

DEERE all the way. I did hear that DEERE bought out YANMAR which would mean DEERE is now making all of their own tractors plus a few others like CUB CADET. I have always been impressed with how much more user friendly DEERE are than other brands. Their are other great tractors out there but nobody buildsem like JOHN DEERE.

For the smaller tractors (under 90hp), kubota is by far the best, and has no real competition it's class. As for over 90 hp, Case internatoinal is the best. That is all we run on our farm(besides one kubota). The ones we own either have cummins engines, or case 504 engines which are great motors. We did have a john deere but preferred case so we got rid of it.

For the smaller tractors (under 90hp), kubota is by far the best, and has no real competition it's class.

I pretty much thought the same thing until I spent a little time on a Deere. A close freind owns a Kubota dealership and has allowed me to use most anything he has. I had ordered a new Kubota compact tractor from him (43hp I think) and was waiting on delivery when I went to the John Deere dealer for filters for my 670. Lo and behold there sat a Kubota just like the one I had ordered next to a JD 4320. After a thorough side by side comparison of the two machines and a fair amount of time playing on the Deere, there was simply no comparison between the two. I called my freind and cancelled the order for the Kubota (at his cost) and bought the Deere at near retail. A year later the Deere hasn't had a hiccup and I absolutely love it.

BTW Sadly enough, even though the tractor is made in Augusta, GA, it has a few castings on it stamped "Made in China!"

My tractors are JD. My equipment is JD, New Idea, Heston, IH, NH, Gleaner and BushHog. Parts avalability is the most important thing when crops are down and you are to.

John Deere, is there anything thing else that comes close, if there is I have not seen it

I like JD, but the dealers like them more than me. That is why I went with a Kubota. The same hp and features in a JD were thousands more and kubota also has a better warranty. The only difference I could find was the weight difference. I ran a 2310 ford for years but they don't make those anymore. I also put several hours on a mahindra, and liked it, but I wanted a few options it didn't have.

One name says it all, John Deere :Dthey break down just the same,priced out any parts lately :wtf1:

I have no preference for any brand,price is what matters. I am happy with my 2 1855 cockshuts and a belarus 800 wich i have owned and used for 23 years, paid less than 12 grand for all 3. Oh yea, got a 1963 112 JD lawn tractor too, actually US build, a rarity these days.

they break down just the same,priced out any parts lately :wtf1:

I cant say for the new JDs but the 5500 my dad has that was built in 1997 has well over 2000 hours. The only problem was a steel line from the hydraulic pump split once. Other then thats theres never been a problem. Theres been a few problems but that was caused by the operator being stupid.

Most parts are way over priced, some JD parts will surprise you. You go in planning to spend $200 and it ends up being $80. That doesnt happen much.

I cant say for the new JDs but the 5500 my dad has that was built in 1997 has well over 2000 hours. The only problem was a steel line from the hydraulic pump split once. Other then thats theres never been a problem. Theres been a few problems but that was caused by the operator being stupid.

Most parts are way over priced, some JD parts will surprise you. You go in planning to spend $200 and it ends up being $80. That doesnt happen much.2000 hrs is just broken in. I get plenty of JD coming trough my shop with all kinds of problems. like i said they brake down just the same as any other make. getting parts for the older JD's is becoming a nightmare

2000 hrs is just broken in. I get plenty of JD coming trough my shop with all kinds of problems. like i said they brake down just the same as any other make. getting parts for the older JD's is becoming a nightmare

I was always told that 2000hrs is about the same as 100,000 miles on a car. Most broken down tractors I see are not JD and have under 2000hrs.

Ive heard some stories about the new JDs having cheap parts, sounded like the same problems that zetor tractors have. The odd thing about that is JD owns zetor.

I was always told that 2000hrs is about the same as 100,000 miles on a car. Most broken down tractors I see are not JD and have under 2000hrs.

Ive heard some stories about the new JDs having cheap parts, sounded like the same problems that zetor tractors have. The odd thing about that is JD owns zetor.

2000 Hours is hardly broke in for a tractor. Everything breaks down, Red, Blue, Green, Orange...walk into any shop and it will be busy. If Deere's didnt break down, Deere wouldn't have Parts or Service Departments.

i will always favor the JD Green paint i would even sell my hd before any of my tractors or combines but the thing that has made jd what it is was the parts and service department and they are a solid machine but so is a good ih

John Deere

I would agree, that if they (JD's) didn't break then why do their dealerships have huge service and parts depts??? They all break if you use them, just some don't use them.

I would agree, that if they (JD's) didn't break then why do their dealerships have huge service and parts depts??? They all break if you use them, just some don't use them.

Most big farmers use JD, those machines get beat to hell. Most home owners use kubota, a home owner isnt plowing fields 24 hours a day for a month or 2. There is some big farmers I know who have tractors plowing for months straight. Somone will plow for about 10 hours then someone will come and take over, the tractor never stops for 2 months atleast.

Just because JD has a big service department doesnt mean they break down. Just means there is way more of their machines out there being used and abused.

That's funny, because around here the "big guys" have red or orange equipment and work the living guts out of them year after year. The only people that have green are the food plot guys. That just goes to show that different area's are really different.

That's funny, because around here the "big guys" have red or orange equipment and work the living guts out of them year after year. The only people that have green are the food plot guys. That just goes to show that different area's are really different.

I dont think Ive ever seen a big farm with anything but JD, there are a few guys around that run old IH or the big old allis. One big farmer even owns 51% of the JD dealership, the 49% is also owned by a big farm.

In the fall its hard to see any combine that isnt a JD.

Best tractor I ever owned was a Ford 8630. Would handle whatever abuse was thrown at it and pulled the 6 fir reversible like it wasn't there.

JD makes a good combine so does Claas which are very popular in Europe, as are Fendt tractors. (but very expensive)

We have had mostly JD's over the years but we also have had Kubota's, Valtra's and a Challenger. We put alot of hours on our tractors on a large dairy. We may put 25000 hours on a feed wagon tractor. My preference is the JD's but the Valtra's have been real good. We put 30000 hours on one. The Kubota's are good for very light duty. Any more and they will fall apart. The biggest difference between JD and the rest is that there is now trade in value on the other brands.

We just rebuilt our JD 4850 with 11,500 hrs on the clock. Transmission is still very strong and I expect a lot more hours out of it. We have a JD 4760 with almost 10,000 hrs and still running strong. I made up my mind when I was a kid. My dad and my uncle used to pick cotton together. My uncle had 2 case cotton pickers (2 row machines) and my dad had 1 john deere 2 row picker. My dads machine picked just as much cotton as the other 2 because they were being worked on so much. Just an example. As stated above everything breaks down from time to time...case, john deere, ford, chevy. However, I will stick with green paint and bowties.

JD built prior to 1960 :D

[quote=michaeljp86;3274282]Most big farmers use JD, quote]

I would say more big farms run JD, but not most.
Depends on your area, and your dealer relationship. The actual stat is out there somewhere.
There's alot of red on those big farms too.
My stat is that exactly 50% of all combines for sale on TH are JD. That sounds about right.
In every other category, they are 15 to 25%. I'd bet big farms that run all JD are 40-50%.

[quote=michaeljp86;3274282]Most big farmers use JD, quote]

I would say more big farms run JD, but not most.
Depends on your area, and your dealer relationship. The actual stat is out there somewhere.
There's alot of red on those big farms too.
My stat is that exactly 50% of all combines for sale on TH are JD. That sounds about right.
In every other category, they are 15 to 25%. I'd bet big farms that run all JD are 40-50%.


I think IH selling out to case, then caseIH selling to NH then NH selling to fiat, or however that went sent alot of guys to JD.

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I agree with you 100%

They are all foreign! Just some are assembled in U.S.

One name says it all, John Deere :D

amen

Team Green!;)

But seriously I spent lots of time shopping around for compact tractors last summer.

I looked at the Kubota, Deere and New holland. The new holland was 2grand more that the deere with similar features, and i didnt like the looks of it.

The kubota was pretty close to the deere, but i didnt like the layout of the controls or the loader joystick on the Kubota, and the Mower deck was a PITA to take off for loader work.

I went with my heart and bought a DEERE:)

I got it with the quick park loader, 62D Drive on deck , I- match quick hitch and Ballast box.

Ive put 102 hours on it since last August, moved 210 Ton of fill, Mow 3 acres a week, plow snow, and whatever else,

This tractor has been Flawless, NO Hiccups except for a broken Alt. belt.

This tractor sips fuel. The Deere chasis /Yanmar 3cyl diesel engine combo is a home run. Absolutlety love it.

for tractors deere. heck i went to deere tech school.:D

harvest= caseIH

use 2 little import tractors though and really can't complain about em. they do the job with out breaking down.

I like JD, but the dealers like them more than me. That is why I went with a Kubota. The same hp and features in a JD were thousands more and kubota also has a better warranty. The only difference I could find was the weight difference. I ran a 2310 ford for years but they don't make those anymore. I also put several hours on a mahindra, and liked it, but I wanted a few options it didn't have.My Kubota cost me 9k less than the JD, JD wouldn't even budge. I bought the Kubota Cab and never looked back. I like the open floor pan and the fact it is a Hydro....no issues at 190 hours.

kubota dont have the re sale value, or the quality, but they are a nice price in comparison to others, depends how much you use it or what you need it for, but i wouldnt buy another kubota, the diesel motor is good in them but start terrible. Deere is were its at

kubota here had it 8 years now beat the living shit out of it tilling my property (not farming)not one thing wrong. starts great sits in sub zero cold and starts right up.my friend has a new holland and its been recalled twice already for the pto and the gas tank something else broke also hes upset that he went with it.its like every thing else if it gives you great reliability you will swear buy it if it breaks down once or twice you will bad mouth it.the reason i went with kubota is i didnt want anything that was ford blue:rolleyes:.my hate for fords even travels down to tractors:Dthe othe reason i bought it was deere could not even come close to the price either.i think all tractors are forign in one way or the other.

I've had quite a few Kubotas in the compact, zero turn, and front mount mower units. Start no matter what or how cold, never had an ether can. The yanmars in the compact JD's around here have had issues with crankshafts and timing gears mostly.

This is a 68 cu in Kubota pushing over 100hp, used to have 24 stock. Cub frame, CaseIH Farmall hood.

If I won the lotto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jod844YZH90

It would make cutting those sections a breeze :D

I run nothing but New Holland. Ive got 11, ranging from large 8770 to small orchard tractors and wouldn't buy anything else. The only "green" I want to see in my fields are the crops. John Deere is way over priced for the same exact thing. Deere tractors are also maintenance hogs.

I run nothing but New Holland. Ive got 11, ranging from large 8770 to small orchard tractors and wouldn't buy anything else. The only "green" I want to see in my fields are the crops. John Deere is way over priced for the same exact thing. Deere tractors are also maintenance hogs.


We are mainly all deere, and you are right parts are getting outrageous, not to mention down time. But the problem seems to be with the combines, the 9400 4wd's seem to just require oil and filters.

I've had quite a few Kubotas in the compact, zero turn, and front mount mower units. Start no matter what or how cold, never had an ether can. The yanmars in the compact JD's around here have had issues with crankshafts and timing gears mostly.

This is a 68 cu in Kubota pushing over 100hp, used to have 24 stock. Cub frame, CaseIH Farmall hood.


That's Awsome!!

One name says it all, John Deere :D


Agree why buy anything else? Youi pay a little more when you first buy them but you get it back when and if you sell them.

My preference?

Early Tractors? IH Farmall

60's 70's tractors? IH

Early 80's IH

Mid 80's 90's Tractors? JD

00's Tractors? NH

After the late 60's you'd be hard pressed to find a 100% American tractor.

American or foreign tractors? Didn't know there was any difference now days...

American or foreign tractors? Didn't know there was any difference now days...

I love this thought... please tell me what everything thinks makes up an AMERICAN tractor?

John Deere 8000 and 9000 series, assembled in Waterloo Iowa with engines made in Waterloo Iowa and transmissions made in Coffeyville Kansas. Designing and R&D done in Waterloo, IA for the tractor as well as powertrain components.

So exactly how is that not an American Tractor?

Sure we make components and assemble tractors outside the US but have you ever seen the freight bill on a 5000 series tractor, last time I checked the majority of those were sold in the regions where we assemble them...

I'll get off my soapbox now...

Jay

I love this thought... please tell me what everything thinks makes up an AMERICAN tractor?

John Deere 8000 and 9000 series, assembled in Waterloo Iowa with engines made in Waterloo Iowa and transmissions made in Coffeyville Kansas. Designing and R&D done in Waterloo, IA for the tractor as well as powertrain components.

So exactly how is that not an American Tractor?

Sure we make components and assemble tractors outside the US but have you ever seen the freight bill on a 5000 series tractor, last time I checked the majority of those were sold in the regions where we assemble them...

I'll get off my soapbox now...

Jay

I agree but it may not last. At the fair I looked at the new JDs, the JD vineyard tractors are the 5000 series and have a N for narrow, like a 5500N. They had a 5101EN, I was thinking what the heck is that goofy thing. It was made in mexico, my dads JD vineyard tractors was built in illinois. :(

I agree but it may not last. At the fair I looked at the new JDs, the JD vineyard tractors are the 5000 series and have a N for narrow, like a 5500N. They had a 5101EN, I was thinking what the heck is that goofy thing. It was made in mexico, my dads JD vineyard tractors was built in illinois. :(

5000 series tractor's are primarily assembled in Augusta GA (including 5101E models)... not sure where you got the Mexico tag, we don't assemble any tractors in Mexico...

We do assemble some 5000's in India, but they are stripped down models that typically are all they need in that region for the size of farming that happens over there.

Not trying to be an @ss I'm sure you were just mistaken... the Engine for that tractor is made in Torreon Mexico at an Engine plant we have down there maybe that's the tag you saw.

Jay

5000 series tractor's are primarily assembled in Augusta GA (including 5101E models)... not sure where you got the Mexico tag, we don't assemble any tractors in Mexico...

We do assemble some 5000's in India, but they are stripped down models that typically are all they need in that region for the size of farming that happens over there.

Not trying to be an @ss I'm sure you were just mistaken... the Engine for that tractor is made in Torreon Mexico at an Engine plant we have down there maybe that's the tag you saw.

Jay

I have a 6000 series and it was made in germany... its a great tractor.. i also have a 7520 its made in usa.. I bought a brand new new holland in 2004.. had it less then a year.. had a lot of trouble with it and compared to my jd's it was crude. When I sold it i lost a ton of money on it too.. With a Jd you dont lose near as much when you trade or sell.

I have a 6000 series and it was made in germany... its a great tractor.. i also have a 7520 its made in usa.. I bought a brand new new holland in 2004.. had it less then a year.. had a lot of trouble with it and compared to my jd's it was crude. When I sold it i lost a ton of money on it too.. With a Jd you dont lose near as much when you trade or sell.

Definitely hold their value. When I looked at buying my first lawn tractor I was amazed at how much value even the used little guys hold.

You're right we build the 6000's and small frame 7000's in Germany and I'm pretty sure nobody will squak about crappy low priced German engineering and assembly :)

The large frame 7000's are built up in Waterloo Iowa right next to the 8000's and 9000's.

Jay

I like my little Toro zero turn tractor. Good on gas hahaha..