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: Bottom Line Question...Why Doesn't GM Factory Just Add A Power Upgrade?


56Nomad
03-03-2005, 09:04 PM
I'm sure this question has been asked before but I did not have
luck doing a search for the answer.

With the diesel manufacturers competing for top horsepower and torque,
why don't they make a very modest investment for a power upgrade when
the engines or trucks are produced at the factory. :confused:

hoot
03-03-2005, 09:10 PM
Then the 200,000 mile spec between major repairs would drop. Warranty costs would go up.

56Nomad
03-03-2005, 09:41 PM
Then the 200,000 mile spec between major repairs would drop. Warranty costs would go up.

Hoot.... is that tongue in cheek?

Or, are you saying that adding aftermarket power upgrade will
typically shorten the useful life of my diesel engine components?

yamahagrizzly
03-03-2005, 10:03 PM
no he means it will be more prone to you breaking something. meaning with more power you will be pulling more more hot rodding and more abuse. pluse u cant just make huge jumps in hp and tq numbers becauce then every few years you will expect the same jump cetch my drift?

adding power to your motor isnt exacly the best thing for long term but it isnt exacly sudden death to your truck. it also depends on the amount of power the the type of power adders you put on that will affect long term.

PEANUTGRWR
03-03-2005, 11:14 PM
I'm sure this question has been asked before but I did not have
luck doing a search for the answer.

With the diesel manufacturers competing for top horsepower and torque,
why don't they make a very modest investment for a power upgrade when
the engines or trucks are produced at the factory. :confused:

IMHO ITS LIKE CARRYING HEALTH INSURANCE ON A HABITUAL CRACK ADDICT========ITS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, AND IF IT DID NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT ):h

McRat
03-03-2005, 11:55 PM
The HP War of the 21st Century is still in full swing. Expect the diesels to advertise 350HP in the next couple of years.

GM is ramping up nearly all their engines in all categories. The Small Block Chevy has gained 200HP in less than a decade, and will hit 500HP in just a few months.

GM could make a 400HP Duramax tomorrow, but GM's style is to slowly ramp up the power to encourage customers to upgrade.

4x4man
03-04-2005, 08:41 AM
I am just wondering at what point will more power and more emission controls put our mileage into the tank...kinda worried as the trend seems to be more power, more emissions, less mileage. It seems like diesel prices won't go down, even after heating oil season like last year. Seems there will always be an excuse to keep fuel prices high. :mad:

sprintmod1
03-04-2005, 08:56 AM
I have friend that is an engineer at Volvo/Mack. He's been looking at buying a new pickup and is considering a dmax. Had this conversation just this weekend and you should hear the stuff he was talking about with the new diesel emmissions that is going to go into effect in 2007. He is preparing himself that he might not even have a job after 2007. He said that the new regulations are strangling their engineering department. They have no idea as to how they are going to meet the requirements and still get enough power out of the things to make the guys that use them happy. He said we are going to be headed for some hard times with the diesels for a while.

otis
03-04-2005, 12:51 PM
The stock truck is set up with running gear and most other components to handle the HP they put in the engine. If you increase the HP then you are putting more stress on a system designed for stock HP. My guess is you could get the same life out of the truck with a little more HP if you drive carefully. But then why get the extra HP? If you want enough power to tow anything within the factory guidlines and you want to know the truck will last as long as it was designed too, then don't add HP. If you want to smoke your tires and don't care about getting the most life out of the truck then load it up and have as much fun as you can until something blows.

Lock
03-04-2005, 02:33 PM
I have friend that is an engineer at Volvo/Mack. He's been looking at buying a new pickup and is considering a dmax. Had this conversation just this weekend and you should hear the stuff he was talking about with the new diesel emmissions that is going to go into effect in 2007. He is preparing himself that he might not even have a job after 2007. He said that the new regulations are strangling their engineering department. They have no idea as to how they are going to meet the requirements and still get enough power out of the things to make the guys that use them happy. He said we are going to be headed for some hard times with the diesels for a while.

Wow, this is too similar to the muscle car era. Smog restrictions choked the old gas V8's to nothing.

OC_DMAX
03-04-2005, 03:14 PM
Wow, this is too similar to the muscle car era. Smog restrictions choked the old gas V8's to nothing.

True,,,, but look at what the current crop of gas powered engines are doing (some truely amazing HP figures for stock engines) AND they are meeting much more stringent smog requirements than 20 years ago. It will take time for diesels to evolve in the regulatory environment.