I keep the PPE on level 1 almost all the time. Here lately ive been noticing some pretty nasty timing rattle if I get on it hard from a stop. This anything to be worried about?

Did it just start doing this?

my lmm had some nasty timing rattle just off an idle untill the engine got hot just trying to back out of a parking spot it sounded like a powerstroke, this was with a tune 2 on a race tuner. never did it with the non race turner

Yeah come to think of it its only really noticable when the engine isnt completely warm.

I had the ECM update done last week. Drove 3-4 days with the stock tune. Updated my PPE to the latest firmware this morning. Flashed level 2 to the truck.

Sounded fine at idle. Give it a little gas to pull out of the garage and it sounded like a Powerstroke.

Didn't do that on stock tune after ECM update. Didn't do it pre-ECM update on PPE level 2.

i was thinking the same after the ecm flash it got much louder

Just got my ppe is this somehting to be worried about? I guess I have the pre mod jitters since I havent done anything to void my warranty yet?

same here, I have been trying alot of different tunes.. efi live, westers garage, duramax tuner, quadzilla... and they all seem to have clatter at certain points under light throttle and most evident when the motor isnt at 220.

I had the ECM update done last week. Drove 3-4 days with the stock tune. Updated my PPE to the latest firmware this morning. Flashed level 2 to the truck.

Sounded fine at idle. Give it a little gas to pull out of the garage and it sounded like a Powerstroke.

Didn't do that on stock tune after ECM update. Didn't do it pre-ECM update on PPE level 2.




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I havent used my tuner yet, nor do I have any experiance with them as this is my first diesel, is this something to be worried about or is this normal diesel rattle?

same here i just installed the 4in turbo back daimond eye and ppe hot tune for dpf delete and on first start up in the morning is rattles like an ole powerstroke and as soon as i pull out of the driveway it goes away maybe dan at ppe will chime in and tell us its ok

I am sure PPE checks this, maybe they could let us know if this becuase of the ecm update or anything to worry about?

It is normal for the engine sound to be louder when engine is cold comparied to when the engine is fully warmed up.

Mine doesnt do it, on any level. But i also didnt fall for that bs ecm flash!!!!As per Dan!!:D

It is normal for the engine sound to be louder when engine is cold comparied to when the engine is fully warmed up.


That's not the complaint, it's that after the dealer ecm reflash and your tuner the trucks now louder.

I dont have an LMM BUT my truck seems to rattle more when the Fuel Filter needs to be changed????? Just a thought.

Dan thanks for chiming in, but what concerns me is that a few of these customers had your product before the ecm reflash and had a baseline, and then after the reflashthey had a different sound to their rigs using your product, I have just purchased one your tuners and have yet to install it I have just been busy, but what I am looking for is a warm fuzzy that your company has analyzed the gm reflash and have found it completely compatiable with your hand held tuners, concerned customer..Josh

It is normal for the engine sound to be louder when engine is cold comparied to when the engine is fully warmed up.

Cold Engine - Pre-ECM update, Stock tune, no rattle at idle or under throttle.

Cold Engine - Pre-ECM update, PPE - Level 2, no rattle at idle or under throttle

Cold Engine - Post ECM update, Stock Tune, no rattle at idle or under throttle.

Cold Engine - Post ECM update, PPE - Level 2, no rattle at idle, but BIG rattle under throttle.

There are a few post from PPE customers that make me think I shouldnt be using this programmer, PPE PLEASE ADDRESS THESSE ISSUES , if there is any, sounds like a few satsified customers saying something is definetely different then before?

Thanks for the clarification. I will forward this to the engineering department ASAP....

One thing I can assure all of you, IF there is a problem we will take care of it in a very timely manner...

Thanks
Dan

Thanks Dan! look forward to installing your blocker plate and tuner this weekend if the weather is conducive...Josh

ive got an 08 lmm with ppe hot race, level 1 boost stays in 30-32 range, levels 2-5 boost ranges up to 44psi with auto meter guages... 44 psi is that normal? everyone ive talked to says its going to damage something, your tech rick told me its perfectly normal... also when towing in level 2 a light load... rhino 2 four wheelers the truck seems to snap like its losing fuel or shuting down.... cruising at 60 70 mph. lastly, unloaded level 3 70 mph pullout to pass or accel and the truck boggs down losing power and then dump enuff black smoke to stop traffic.... is all this normal? or is something wrong, programmer hasnt been same since updated...

It's gonna be louder, period. Takes a while to get use to. Scared me at first too.

After installing mine over the last weekend it has got me by surprise on few mornings it is definetely louder on cold start ups, I guess you could say now it really sounds like a diesel, Josh

I like it being a little louder. Got tired of people asking if I had rebadged a gas truck.

I like it being a little louder. Got tired of people asking if I had rebadged a gas truck.


I dont mind I just want to know if its right and its not going to effect the longevity of my engine

The revision is almost done.... I will keep you all posted.

Thanks dan, looking forward to hear what your engineers found or think about the situation...Josh

We have released a revised tune that can be downloaded off our website www.ppediesel.com (http://www.ppediesel.com/). The updates will be ready later today and are only for economy and standard customers. Please let me know if you have any questions... Thanks
Dan

Will try it this weekend! Thanks Dan.

No probelm! Thanks for being patient!

someone please correct me if i'm wrong, but those of us with the ''race'' tuner have to ship them in for the update right? if so anyone done this & know how long it takes or what the procedure is?

We have released a revised tune that can be downloaded off our website www.ppediesel.com (http://www.ppediesel.com/). The updates will be ready later today and are only for economy and standard customers. Please let me know if you have any questions... Thanks
Dan

Do we need to send in our race tuners and what is the new version #?

Yes! Hot Race, Hot+2 e.t. and Hot+2 e.t. RACE need to be sent in. We also have revised boost tables for the RACE customers.

so dan, what i hear you saying is that even though I've alreagy paid for the post ecm update, I still need to send the race tuner back in for another update to make the truck run without shaking. B.t.w. what changes to the boost table have you guys done?

Yes! Hot Race, Hot+2 e.t. and Hot+2 e.t. RACE need to be sent in. We also have revised boost tables for the RACE customers.


It's on it's way to you!

so dan, what i hear you saying is that even though I've alreagy paid for the post ecm update, I still need to send the race tuner back in for another update to make the truck run without shaking. B.t.w. what changes to the boost table have you guys done?


I have never heard of "shaking" issue?

The revision on the timing was for loud cold starts. The boost tables were adjusted for the Race customers who are having high boost (over 38 psi). There is no charge for the updates.

I have never heard of "shaking" issue?

The revision on the timing was for loud cold starts. The boost tables were adjusted for the Race customers who are having high boost (over 38 psi). There is no charge for the updates.

Dan can we run the current tune without any harm to our rigs and send our tuner back when its convienent to us? or would you reccomend that we send thm back as soon as possible? thanks, Josh

Dan ,I sent my tuner in about three weeks ago to get the reflash update. I have not put it back in the truck yet. I would like to know if I have to send it back again. I called and nobody seemed to know what I was talking about as far as the second update. How can I tell?

Please call as I not able to access the site when at work. Thanks

Dan
714-985-4825

LMMKING,

When you get your tuner back can you give us an update ?

Just got the tuner back but have not loaded it onto the truck. As soon as I do I will report back.
Thanks

Let us know what you think I still Have to send mine back in for the update

Let us know what you think I still Have to send mine back in for the update

If your wondering about the rattle. Mine's updated and the noise is gone.

If your wondering about the rattle. Mine's updated and the noise is gone.


X2 cold start is back to the stock sound :D as for the over boost issue I'm not shure if I had the problem, no gauges yet.
Need to get them but nothing matches the NBS:mad:

Have you looked at our gauges?

Have you looked at our gauges?

Need turquoise back light to match and yes I am that anal about my truck:D

Thank you for getting the tuner back to me soo fast, you guys do good work!