Hey all..yes I am a Duramax guy,but a buddy of mine just purchased a PS with the 6.0 and I wanted to find out if there are any known issues he may need to know about or look for.

I know in the beginning the new 6.0 had problems staying together, smaller displacement, more power.. other than that I don't really know.

what are some things that are common to go out, or whatever.

thanks in advance
B.

let me say that my uncle and the general contractor at our jobsite, both have loss of antifreeze. Something to do with the head bolts and a possibility of TWO head gaskets being installed on one side, can't remember which. General contractors engine is being replaced as I speak, and uncle's is still under way.............BUT........... They both have the predator, I think it may have lots to do with it.

ok, thanks for the info.


by lack of responses I assume these motors are perfect then with no issues.

My buddy has an 04 and has the tranny parts on order for a TSB that came out a while back. He's had no issues with the motor....yet.

I would say they are far from perfect and to my knowledge are the least reliable of the 3 full size diesels available. There are a lot in the oil field up here because 450's and 550's are less bucks than a 4500/5500 series GM and Dodge doesn't have em. I believe the actual engine itself is relatively sound, its all the electronics and controls and the fuel system that are the issue. But I can't get into specifics only the usual "my friend's uncle's cousin had this problem" kind of stuff. One of the contractors we work for has one - an '04 and his words to me were "every time I take this thing in for a service they flash more power out of it" He's not crying too loud as the truck was supplied by the company. If you want more details go here: www.dieselstop.com

cool.. so by the sounds of things the tranny is the weak point? I remember seeing a comparison of an Allison output shaft to the ford tranny output shaft and it was like night and day. thanks for the info

The 6.0 has come a long way. If its an '03 or '04 I would unplug the EGR to prevent problems down the road. Its a very tempermental engine, treat it right and it will be ok. Its by far the most advanced diesel out in fullsize trucks with more sensors so something can go out.
The tranny is solid. If properly tuned the tranny can handle much more than the Ally easy. There are ppl running 800ft/lbs + on the TS and still chuggin.
Don't get a Predator though. Terrible programming.
Well its late and I'm rambling. I'll be happy to answer anymore questions if you have any.

And oh yeah, I LOVE MY 6.0!!

The 6.0 has come a long way. If its an '03 or '04 I would unplug the EGR to prevent problems down the road. Its a very tempermental engine, treat it right and it will be ok. Its by far the most advanced diesel out in fullsize trucks with more sensors so something can go out.
The tranny is solid. If properly tuned the tranny can handle much more than the Ally easy. There are ppl running 800ft/lbs + on the TS and still chuggin.
Don't get a Predator though. Terrible programming.
Well its late and I'm rambling. I'll be happy to answer anymore questions if you have any.

And oh yeah, I LOVE MY 6.0!!
how do you like your Edge/*** on your PS? He is considering getting one since he saw the one on my Duramax. The one for yours doesn't have all the features that mine does though..if I remember.

as for the tranny..if taken care of sure they will all last a long time. I just remember seeing the comparison in the input shafts and the ally was like 2inch in diameter while the PS one was only 1 inch. Still, if the motor/tranny is taken care of it should be more than enough.

I like my Edge tons of power. The new A2 will be out this summer with more features and some tranny help.

Go to www.thedieselstop.com (http://www.thedieselstop.com/) and read about the 6.0-:t :help:

-:t -:t -:t Ford also dropped the pilot injection in all 6.0L's
If I were a Ford owner I would be upset.

-:t -:t -:t Ford also dropped the pilot injection in all 6.0L's
If I were a Ford owner I would be upset.
Wow I had no idea that happened 3 years ago.

i just dropped off my 6.0 at the local dodge cummins dealer,i for one may have been lucky but i never had any trouble with my truck.if i unplugged the egr it wouldnt run as good,but i opened it up and blew the carbon out quite a bit.the stock tranny with proper programming will ho;d a decent amount of hp for a good time.the 6.0s weak point is tq,its just not there needs more fuel,it would make some really nice hp but the tq was just pure a?? weak

i just dropped off my 6.0 at the local dodge cummins dealer,i for one may have been lucky but i never had any trouble with my truck.if i unplugged the egr it wouldnt run as good,but i opened it up and blew the carbon out quite a bit.the stock tranny with proper programming will ho;d a decent amount of hp for a good time.the 6.0s weak point is tq,its just not there needs more fuel,it would make some really nice hp but the tq was just pure a?? weak
what?

Wow I had no idea that happened 3 years ago.My 04 PSD had pilot until they flashed it. Then I lost it. I also in a span of a year went through a turbo in NV no less (Im from WA) So left the trailer in storage and had to come back home only to have to fly back to get it the next week. Then 4K later the EGR valve went out. Then 5K later THAT EGR valve blew up. Never again will I set my foot into a Ford. That being said my step dad bought one that same week and has had very little problem. Only thing that happened to his is the turbo hose blew off.

My 04 PSD had pilot until they flashed it. Then I lost it. I also in a span of a year went through a turbo in NV no less (Im from WA) So left the trailer in storage and had to come back home only to have to fly back to get it the next week. Then 4K later the EGR valve went out. Then 5K later THAT EGR valve blew up. Never again will I set my foot into a Ford. That being said my step dad bought one that same week and has had very little problem. Only thing that happened to his is the turbo hose blew off.

Should have unplugged that EGR and that would have helped. Sorry to hear about your bad luck. There is bad apples in every bunch. My uncle and a neighbor had terrible luck with their Duramax's. Poop happens.

Should have unplugged that EGR and that would have helped. Sorry to hear about your bad luck. There is bad apples in every bunch. My uncle and a neighbor had terrible luck with their Duramax's. Poop happens.
Shouldnt have to unplug the EGR.

Thats why I said my Step Dad didnt have any problems. Its all good now. Im happy with the Chev. Much better creature comforts.

Shouldnt have to unplug the EGR.

Thats why I said my Step Dad didnt have any problems. Its all good now. Im happy with the Chev. Much better creature comforts.
An EGR on any diesel spells trouble. Duramax and Cummins will have them by '07. The '05 EGR is much better, much better flow. But ya know EPA = :blahblah:

Duramax already has EGR stuff and cat in preparation for 07 standards. Not sure about cummins though.

Thanks for all the info ya'll..I'll pass it along to him.

An EGR on any diesel spells trouble. Duramax and Cummins will have them by '07. The '05 EGR is much better, much better flow. But ya know EPA = :blahblah:

Yep EPA. Fun stuff. And EGR is garbage for sure.

When I was having the EGR issues.....the last one not even a month ago yet they hadnt gotten a revised EGR valve out. They figured it would be about 3 months.....for the 04 anyway.

so basically what I am goign to tell my buddy is.... most of the newer diesels have EGR, it sucks..get used to it..

the weak link in the FPS's is the tranny from all your replies. Thanks

I got an 04 with an 03 motor. No coolant puke at all. The 6.0L is a good motor. Just all the sensors are what make it have problems. I dont' know everything about them, but can answer all of your questions. The coolant puking is due to the heads, gaskets, and bolts. By this I mean, I have seen stock trucks come out that puke coolant due to a bad head gasket or pits in the heads (bad castings). See the 7.3L has 17 head bolts I believe where the 6.0L only has 10. Alot less clamping area and pressure. They need head studs from ARP if your going to run big power. The lower ends on them are fine. The 03's are easy to disconnect the egr. Just unplug it. Now the 04's are a different story. www.thedieselstop.com (http://www.thedieselstop.com) can tell you more info quicker than I can type LOL

Todd,

I've never unplugged my EGR cause I'm not blowing coolant. You think I should unplug it?

Todd,

I've never unplugged my EGR cause I'm not blowing coolant. You think I should unplug it?
Its up to you. It doesn't solve coolant puking. But you don't have that problem.
I unplugged mine cause I drive alot and over time it will carbon up and will have to be changed. If you unplug it, it will close and no carbon build up. Some say you lose about 1 psi of boost but I can hit 34 and that is plenty for me. I unplugged mine about 16K ago and no probs. You will notice that it cuts the turbo lag down just a bit.
Its all up to you. Unplug it try it for a couple weeks and see what you think.
Plus its one less thing to go wrong.

excuse my ignorance since I am a Duramax owner..what is this coolant puke you guys are talking about? I want to let my buddy know just in case.

TIA

excuse my ignorance since I am a Duramax owner..what is this coolant puke you guys are talking about? I want to let my buddy know just in case.

TIA
Its when the bottle if radiator coolant on the firewall overflows out of the cap, not due to heat by to it being overfilled at the factory, a bad cap, or the headgaskets seeping.

Its when the bottle if radiator coolant on the firewall overflows out of the cap, not due to heat by to it being overfilled at the factory, a bad cap, or the headgaskets seeping.
Yup. I've heard of thousands of possiblities just not many solutions.

I am a 6.0 diesel tech, I have seen the coolant resevoir residue over spill, but nobody has complained about yet. I will check monday to see if ford hotline has had any problems with it and what is the fix. Any other questions and I will try to respond as quickly as I can. I am over loaded with 6.0 trouble at the shop right now.

I know a ford mechanic that is saying the same thing as masterm. They have lines of 6.0's in the shop. Mostly head gasket problems, but trannys too. Ford should have kept the 7.3, that thing had all the kinks worked out, it was bulletproof. Better yet they could start putting in dmax motors!!!!:muahaha:

....My uncle and a neighbor had terrible luck with their Duramax's. Poop happens....
Okay that kind of stuff is SOOOOO 5th grade. If you are going to start flaming to justify a potential problem on a 6.0L as okay, then you should probably go to the DieselStop (that is exactly why I left there). Otherwise, you need to provide some further details that will lend credibility to your claim.

Most of us here know that no diesel engine is perfect, but you (or people like you) do not need to try to justify your purchase by defaming others...:badidea:

For the record, I have 45K trouble-free miles on my Duramax. My father has 11K trouble-free miles on his 6.0L. I like the snappy sound of his engine and the seat-of-the-pants romp that it has, but I like my Duramax HD's ride, cold weather starting, and NVH characteristics...

To each his own, as YOU are the one who lives with YOUR decision.

Regards,

Okay that kind of stuff is SOOOOO 5th grade. If you are going to start flaming to justify a potential problem on a 6.0L as okay, then you should probably go to the DieselStop (that is exactly why I left there). Otherwise, you need to provide some further details that will lend credibility to your claim.

Most of us here know that no diesel engine is perfect, but you (or people like you) do not need to try to justify your purchase by defaming others...:badidea:

For the record, I have 45K trouble-free miles on my Duramax. My father has 11K trouble-free miles on his 6.0L. I like the snappy sound of his engine and the seat-of-the-pants romp that it has, but I like my Duramax HD's ride, cold weather starting, and NVH characteristics...

To each his own, as YOU are the one who lives with YOUR decision.

Regards,
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You made yourself look like an idiot. I won't have to say much. I'm just saying that each diesel has its own problems, none are perfect. Some are better in some areas than others. Ford has problems and Chevy has problems, Dodge has a solid motor with a crappy structure.

Your the one acting like a child. Plus this is the Ford thread not Chevy. Thanks for playing, next time try to be a little more clever. :muahaha:

First off I would like to say that I'm a huge fan of FORDs diesels 7.3 and 6.0. we run the livin #$%@ out of them in the 450 and 550 med-tech ambulances. I mean we beat the crap out of them. Cold starts to 60 mph in 30 secs with all the lights, heater and sirens blaring. but we have a 04 6.0 that has a white smoke problem that will not go away. (on high idle) and a engine lag or lack of excelleration, or hesitation. Ford doen't have a clue. It's been in and out of the shop since day one. would like some contructive help. And no we will not buy a duramax. or cummins to replace it.

First off I would like to say that I'm a huge fan of FORDs diesels 7.3 and 6.0. we run the livin #$%@ out of them in the 450 and 550 med-tech ambulances. I mean we beat the crap out of them. Cold starts to 60 mph in 30 secs with all the lights, heater and sirens blaring. but we have a 04 6.0 that has a white smoke problem that will not go away. (on high idle) and a engine lag or lack of excelleration, or hesitation. Ford doen't have a clue. It's been in and out of the shop since day one. would like some contructive help. And no we will not buy a duramax. or cummins to replace it. Then find a 7.3 equipped ambulance. I have 6.0 owners getting there trucks bought back by Ford and buying 7.3 equipped trucks used. If the 6.0 and the 7.3 where such great motors then why are the engine options for the F650 CAT or Cummins 5.9l? Yes you can get a Ford with a Cummins or Cat as long as its commercial. The 7.3 is a good engine. The 6.0? have you looked under the hood. Talk about engineer revenge against the mechanic that ran off with his wife.:D

The 6.0? have you looked under the hood. Talk about engineer revenge against the mechanic that ran off with his wife.:D
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