Ford is now offering Employee Pricing + 3000 Cash Back + 3000 Loyalty Cash if you currently own a Ford. (The way loyalty plans are suppose to work)

GM on the other hand has NO employee pricing or Loyalty Cash unless you own a non GM vehicle that you are trading. STUPID--> STUPID--> STUPID. Since all I currently own is GM products (What I consider true Loyalty) I guess I'm no longer eligible for loyalty cash. :confuzeld :think:

Once Ford switches to the 4.4 and 6.7 Scorpion Diesels with the 6 speed tranny I wouldn't be surprised to see a major suitcase parade at the GM camp. Wake up GM...:smashfrea

Makes me think Ford is hurting worse than GM

Ford is now offering Employee Pricing + 3000 Cash Back + 3000 Loyalty Cash if you currently own a Ford. (The way loyalty plans are suppose to work)

GM on the other hand has NO employee pricing or Loyalty Cash unless you own a non GM vehicle that you are trading. STUPID--> STUPID--> STUPID. Since all I currently own is GM products (What I consider true Loyalty) I guess I'm no longer eligible for loyalty cash. :confuzeld :think:

Once Ford switches to the 4.4 and 6.7 Scorpion Diesels with the 6 speed tranny I wouldn't be surprised to see a major suitcase parade at the GM camp. Wake up GM...:smashfrea

Couple things.....

First if you think you're getting true employee cost.... I've got a bridge to sell ya. IMHO since the cats out of the bag about the invoice not being the "cost" to the dealer this is their latest gimmick.

Second, Look at the resale value. If the resale value of Fords is tanking since they have to almost give them away... are you really saving anything?

Finally, JMHO, but I think the new 4.5 diesel from GM will stomp on the Ford :)

I guess the part that chaps my a$$ the most is that you don't qualify for GM loyalty cash unless you trade a non GM vehicle. They're basically saying I'm not loyal because all my vehicles are GM. That just doesn't make sense to me.... With a program like this it's apparent that GM is more worried about attracting new customers than taking care of the ones they have. It's going to cost them in the long run as a sale to the competition is a sale and possible customer they lost.

A couple of dealers around me are offering 1/3 of any new ford truck, and one is doing 1/2 off any new dodge 1500. But GM is doing anything like that. But now would be the time to buy a truck if you needed to.

The Dodges here are up to 50% off.A buddy of mine bought a new Loaded Mega Cab for 37K!!!Not a bad deal.

All these sales and deep discounts are for quick sales and hurt them in the long run.

Anyone know what the real breakeven price is on any vehicle?

I hate car salesman with a passion,never seen an honest one yet.

on top of that,i take my chances with a used vehicle bought privetly,IMO diff in price between new and used will pay for a looot of repairs

Nothing like offering a "bounty" on the other brand/make of car/pickup/machinery/you-name-it to get things riled up! As stated above, its just another gimmick.

Boy if I could find 50% off a new 5500 Cummins I'd be thinking seriously about one even though I just bought a 2nd D-Max.

GREED

That Simple......profits to shareholders, spending very little on Research and Development.

So no, when shares fell by 25% i didnt feel sorry for them

The Dodges here are up to 50% off.A buddy of mine bought a new Loaded Mega Cab for 37K!!!Not a bad deal.

One of the Dodge dealers here has a row of the very truck I want - a 2500 series 4x4 crew cab with the turbodiesel. Been there long enough that the batteries on several were too low to start. They weren't willing to come down enough yet, but in a few months when the year is ending and tax time nears...

Same thing around here with the dodge trucks. I would love a new truck, but I just could not think about pulling the trigger on a Dodge.

Why would you want to jump ship anyways? My truck has been perfect since the day I have bought it. I wouldn't want to deal with the emmision stuff anyways.

Dealer here is offering a 08 F150 4dr club cab for $12k out the door

Dealer here is offering a 08 F150 4dr club cab for $12k out the door

dang, how much does he want for the engine? :D

That's almost the same price i got my 7 year old truck at.......

It's GM or nothing In my world!!!!

dang, how much does he want for the engine? :D

That's almost the same price i got my 7 year old truck at.......

I am guessing its a 6cyl with absolutely nothing for accessories

actaully been thinking of going and taking a look at it, my son just turned 15...

I am guessing its a 6cyl with absolutely nothing for accessories

actaully been thinking of going and taking a look at it, my son just turned 15...

Look at the bright side, he wouldn't be able to get a ticket for going over 85mph:p: