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: Banks Power Pda ???


dieselfumes57
02-27-2005, 11:58 AM
Anybody Got Any Info On It??

BK Tool
02-27-2005, 02:41 PM
Anybody Got Any Info On It??Just what's here. Wish I knew a price. It looks kool:ro)
http://www.bankspower.com/PDA1.cfm

Terrain Twister
02-27-2005, 03:54 PM
Da*&, something else I have to buy!!!!):h

BK Tool
02-27-2005, 05:27 PM
One other thing, doesn't say on Banks site, but it was mentioned on Trucks, this new PDA will read codes and clear them. Wonder if you can adjust tire size, speed limiter removal, etc...

dieselfumes57
02-27-2005, 11:40 PM
If it looks as good as i think its going to be i might have an edge for sale cheap !

max camper
02-28-2005, 12:09 PM
I just called Banks, on special till March 15th for $499 for cradle and the PDA w/software. And it WILL read and clear DTC's and adjust spedo plus you get a fully functional PDA for other uses. I would think a universal camera could be added with RCA jacks and wireless internet? Pre orders now not in stock yet.:grd:

Aron420
02-28-2005, 12:18 PM
i also just got off the phone with banks apperently the pda replaces the speed loader and you do not need it with the pda. this set up looks alot better than the edge its also a touch screen thats pritty sweet.

Aron420
02-28-2005, 12:21 PM
Also that duel exaust on the truck will be avalable soon from banks.

Scotty Seelen
02-28-2005, 01:10 PM
So you don't need the 6-setting switch or speedloader with the PDA. Did they say if the exhaust is T-409 or T-304?

BK Tool
02-28-2005, 01:55 PM
So you don't need the 6-setting switch or speedloader with the PDA. Did they say if the exhaust is T-409 or T-304?When I called I was told you do not need the speedloader as this takes it's place. But you can still keep the switch. My question to Banks was... "If you remove the PDA will the tuner still stay at the level you set it at?" In other words, if I set it on level 4, take from truck so I can use the PDA in my house, can I still drive the truck on level 4?
The duel exhaust I would think is the same as the other stuff they sell. But, it will be from the muffler back and only 3.5" pipe with 5" tips. They said they had to go smaller to get around the spare. Also on the dyno, it was down a little from the single 4" setup. Pipes should be shipping in 4 or so weeks.

dieselfumes57
02-28-2005, 02:41 PM
ok edge attitude for sale then !! 450.00

Ltrain
02-28-2005, 02:49 PM
IS $499 for everything, or do i need to buy something else? also how much power?

thanks

BK Tool
02-28-2005, 03:04 PM
IS $499 for everything, or do i need to buy something else? also how much power?

thanksThis alone is not a tuner. It is a monitor like the Attitude is on the Edge system. You will still have to have or buy the Six Gun Tuner from Banks.

MrsSpoolin
02-28-2005, 05:21 PM
So, this can replace the switch if you want it to? Any spec on the PDA itsself?

moss022
02-28-2005, 05:22 PM
so you could use it to moniter other programers then too?

duramaximizer
02-28-2005, 05:42 PM
still looks like a pimp set up and i think it would be an all inclusive monitor system and looks like it could work with any chip but i am sure someone on here will be able to figure it out):h ):h ):h

ratki
02-28-2005, 06:51 PM
Just called Banks and I must tell ya'll I really got the cold shoulder. They're salesman said he really didn't know anything about it and transferred me to tech support. Tech support said it would be this summer before the product was released. I can only figure that their upset I purchased the product from a Banks dealer as opposed to directly from them. The first thing from the salesman's mouth was "Where did you get the Banks products, you didn't buy them from us". I talked to them approx. 6 months ago about the Six-gun and did purchase it, however from a dealer that honestly had a better price. Salesman told me I should go to my dealer to find out any info. Who cares where I bought it as long as the sales are up for their product.

3500dmax
02-28-2005, 07:40 PM
Well I too just got off the phone with Banks. I'm in a different situation than some as I already have a PDA (Palm T3) so for me to pay $499 for the PDA, cradle and software would be a waste of money. The rep I spoke with said they do not expect to sell the cradle and software seperately so it's definately a no go for me. According to the rep you still have to purchase the Speedloader in addition to the Six-Gun the only difference is they will discount the Speedloader from $99 to $59 but again according to the rep I spoke with the Speedloader will still be required and they are not expected to be available for the LLY until June '05. For those still interested I can tell you the PDA pictured is the Palm T5.
http://www.bankspower.com/product_images/PowerPDA-detail-sm.jpg
http://www.palmone.com/us/products/handhelds/tungsten-t5/

DMAX POWER007
02-28-2005, 08:26 PM
I was wondering the same about using a different palm. I have the Palm One Treo 650 smart phone with all the palm capabilities. I thought it would be cool to get a car cradle for my Treo with the six-gun software. Phone and Banks controller all in one. Did the rep answer about the six-gun operating with the Palm out of the truck????????

3500dmax
02-28-2005, 09:14 PM
I didn't ask but according to Bank's website;

The Banks PowerPDA includes a custom contoured dash mounted cradle, which includes a built-in charger. The infrared communications link allows wireless connectivity so tuning parameters can be done in the palm of your hand.
it sounds like you'll be able to change stuff with the Palm off the cradle as long as the infrared ports can see each other. As for BK Tool's question I'm 99% sure the truck will work you just won't be able to adjust the power setting till you get the Palm back in the truck.

BK Tool
02-28-2005, 09:18 PM
I didn't ask but according to Bank's website;


it sounds like you'll be able to change stuff with the Palm off the cradle as long as the infrared ports can see each other. As for BK Tool's question I'm 99% sure the truck will work you just won't be able to adjust the power setting till you get the Palm back in the truck.My thoughts also. But I was also told that one could also leave the 6 way selector switch hooked up so you could change levels. My question to Banks was "If you remove the PDA will it stay on the pre-set level, or revert back to level one?"
Also I was told that this replaces the Speed Loader.
We shall see. I'm 85% sure I'll be getting one.

3500dmax
02-28-2005, 09:26 PM
Yeah and I was told the Speedloader was still required but that they would discount it. I find it hard to believe the Speedloader software would be installed on the Palm but you never know. Banks has come out with a very innovative setup however many people have not been impressed with the Six-Gun including my future father-in-law so for those that have already bought a Six-Gun this will be a great addition! As for myself I'll probably go with another company even though I won't have all the different features...it sure would be nice to have another use for my Palm.

If I ever do a 180* I'll have a Trippin guage mount and Super Diesel manifold for sale but we'll see.

Scotty Seelen
03-01-2005, 07:37 AM
Has anyone asked if you can adjust the rev limiter and bypass the speed limiter?

BK Tool
03-01-2005, 07:56 AM
Has anyone asked if you can adjust the rev limiter and bypass the speed limiter?Yup.
Was told no to the speed limiter due to possible safty issuses. But with all the misinfomation that we are getting from Banks who really knows. I am calling them again today and I might be ordering if I can get a money back guarantee.
I'll keep you posted.

Scotty Seelen
03-01-2005, 08:27 AM
If you can, try to get a list of things that it can do. The rev/speed limiter were two things I was VERY interested in. Adjusting the power levels I can still do with my trusty switch. 0-60 and 1/4 times/speeds I can do with my G-tech pro. Boost and EGT temps can be monitored by their analog gauges, which I was in the process of ordering. I may have to wait it out until I hear more about this new product.

BK Tool
03-01-2005, 08:44 AM
If you can, try to get a list of things that it can do. The rev/speed limiter were two things I was VERY interested in. Adjusting the power levels I can still do with my trusty switch. 0-60 and 1/4 times/speeds I can do with my G-tech pro. Boost and EGT temps can be monitored by their analog gauges, which I was in the process of ordering. I may have to wait it out until I here more about this new product.Will do. But if this is also a PDA and runs Windows software, I will now have portable porn):h

DMAX POWER007
03-01-2005, 09:05 AM
Has Peter and Colin chimed in around here lately? Seems like they would be on here answering any question they can to get the new product out. I was/am a believer in Banks products, but their sales/info staff just wasn't very helpful at answering my questions. I bought Edge because they did.

McRat
03-01-2005, 10:03 AM
Will do. But if this is also a PDA and runs Windows software, I will now have portable porn):h

"Why's my truck running like crap?"

"It appears your truck is infected with a virus and 200 spyware applications."

:eek:

BK Tool
03-01-2005, 10:05 AM
"Why's my truck running like crap?"

"It appears your truck is infected with a virus and 200 spyware applications."

:eek::funnypost

max camper
03-01-2005, 11:34 AM
At a stop light......


THEM: Hey man you want'a race.

YOU: Yeah, give me a minute though, I have to re-boot. :(

Terrain Twister
03-01-2005, 12:45 PM
I'm PM'ing Peter now. As soon as he gets back to me, I'll post what I find out. My dealings with most salespeople, might as well as ask the mother-in-law for directions in China!

PeterT
03-01-2005, 11:11 PM
OK guys, I will answer as many questions as I can now. Engineering is working on a list of FAQ’s regarding this product that should be available tomorrow. I am out of the office right now (back on Thursday), but as soon as this list is available, someone will post here with more details. If you would like to see a little more about this product on TV, tune in to Xtreme 4x4 on Spike during the next two weekends (March 5&6 and 12&13) and you will get more details, although it will be on a Dodge Cummins.

BK Tool,
Yes, the Power PDA will read and clear OBDII codes and you will be able to adjust tire size to display proper MPH on the PDA. At this point it likely will not allow for removal or adjustment of the speed limiter, but we are working on a separate product (a kind of black box) to do that.

Aron420,
You have received correct information, the use of the Power PDA will replace the need for need for the six position switch and the Speed-Loader. It is not necessary to remove these items, the Power PDA will simply override the Speed-Loader and give you the option of selecting power levels on the switch or on the PDA (at least I think that is how it is configured now, I may learn more about this in the FAQ’s).

Scotty Seleen,
The current production exhaust is still 409. I have not heard of any plans at this point to do anything different.

BK Tool,
If the PDA is removed from the cradle, the Six-Gun will retain the last selected power level in memory and continue to operate in that level until another level is selected. You are also correct that this is not a tuner by itself. It is an interface device for the Six-Gun.

MrsSpoolin,
Yes, the PDA can replace the rotary switch. The PDA is a Palm Tungsten E.

moss022,
No, the Power PDA will only be compatible with the Banks Six-Gun.

3500dmax,
I think we will be making the cradle, wiring and software available to those who already have an appropriate Palm for the retail price less about $200.

Scotty Seleen,
The Power PDA will most likely not be the product to change speed/rev limiters. We will probably produce a separate product to do that.

Terrain Twister,
When are you going to China?

Peter Treydte
Banks Power

DMAX POWER007
03-01-2005, 11:41 PM
Peter,
Thanks for answering the questions at hand here. I think that you and Colin checking in and passing info a little more around here (being that it is an Edge dominated forum) will go a long way for you guys. I own an Edge box my self, but we'll see how this new toy goes and there could be a change in the future. ESpecially if I could put the software on my Palm Treo 650. That would be pretty awesome.
Thanks Again!


OK guys, I will answer as many questions as I can now. Engineering is working on a list of FAQ’s regarding this product that should be available tomorrow. I am out of the office right now (back on Thursday), but as soon as this list is available, someone will post here with more details. If you would like to see a little more about this product on TV, tune in to Xtreme 4x4 on Spike during the next two weekends (March 5&6 and 12&13) and you will get more details, although it will be on a Dodge Cummins.

BK Tool,
Yes, the Power PDA will read and clear OBDII codes and you will be able to adjust tire size to display proper MPH on the PDA. At this point it likely will not allow for removal or adjustment of the speed limiter, but we are working on a separate product (a kind of black box) to do that.

Aron420,
You have received correct information, the use of the Power PDA will replace the need for need for the six position switch and the Speed-Loader. It is not necessary to remove these items, the Power PDA will simply override the Speed-Loader and give you the option of selecting power levels on the switch or on the PDA (at least I think that is how it is configured now, I may learn more about this in the FAQ’s).

Scotty Seleen,
The current production exhaust is still 409. I have not heard of any plans at this point to do anything different.

BK Tool,
If the PDA is removed from the cradle, the Six-Gun will retain the last selected power level in memory and continue to operate in that level until another level is selected. You are also correct that this is not a tuner by itself. It is an interface device for the Six-Gun.

MrsSpoolin,
Yes, the PDA can replace the rotary switch. The PDA is a Palm Tungsten E.

moss022,
No, the Power PDA will only be compatible with the Banks Six-Gun.

3500dmax,
I think we will be making the cradle, wiring and software available to those who already have an appropriate Palm for the retail price less about $200.

Scotty Seleen,
The Power PDA will most likely not be the product to change speed/rev limiters. We will probably produce a separate product to do that.

Terrain Twister,
When are you going to China?

Peter Treydte
Banks Power

PeterT
03-01-2005, 11:45 PM
DMAX POWER007,

I like to check in and contribute in positive ways when possible. Part of the reason you haven’t heard from me much lately is because I have been on the road a lot. I think I have been on the road more than at home since the first of the year. In fact, I am doing these posts from <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City><st1:place>Nashville</st1:place></st1:City> right now. But I will try to stay on top of this forum as much as possible and answer questions.

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Peter Treydte

Banks Power

Terrain Twister
03-02-2005, 12:32 AM
):h ):h ):h ):h ):h

Peter, thanks for the reply.

No offense meant on the salesmen part. Personally, I've never had a problem with your guys. In fact, just the opposite. That's one of the reasons I bought direct! Now the car shopping the wife and I did this weekend,:lol: .

Two more questions for you.
1. Do you know when these will actually be available?
2. Any chance of a group buy direct with Banks? I'm sure the guys that already own PDA's would also like to get in if possible.

Thanks,
Chuck

BK Tool
03-02-2005, 06:55 AM
Peter,

Thank you for clearing up some questions. Now I'm 99% sure I will have one.
One thing if possible, along with the FAQ page, would there be any way to put up the users manual in PDF format?
Hope they are out before June.
Thanks again, and please keep us posted.

Scotty Seelen
03-02-2005, 11:16 AM
Any guess as to when this "black box" will be released?

BK Tool
03-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Trigger Pulled:snipersmi $499 early order special.
Hope they can ship it sooner than June 1st.
I also asked for a manual. Will post any info.

moss022
03-02-2005, 05:58 PM
thanks for all the answers, this will open up new doors hopefully

PeterT
03-03-2005, 10:47 PM
Terrain Twister,

We expect to have the PowerPDA available in mid-May. As far as a group buy is concerned, you would need to contact Colin Banks (cbanks@bankspower.com (cbanks@bankspower.com)) for a good answer to that question.

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BK Tool,

The users manual is usually scheduled to be completed at about the same time that the product is available for shipment. This allows us to have the most complete and up-to-date detail in the manuals, so it is unlikely that there is anything I can send you right now, but I will check.

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Scotty Seelen,

I thought the mention of a black box would perk some ears. Although the development of this device should not be too difficult, it has not been started yet and comes after many other things on our project list. Although there are a vocal few who would REALLY like this product to be available, there are other products that we need to complete that will met the demands of some larger quantities of people. I will try to keep you posted.

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Peter Treydte

Banks Power

BK Tool
03-04-2005, 06:25 AM
Thank you Peter.
All we can ask is please keep us posted.

hdmax
03-04-2005, 09:55 AM
On trucks last week, they had another Banks informercial and the PDA was showed and talked about. As was the fact that Banks thinks they will have a streetable and relieable Duramax with 900+ horsepower some time in the not too distant future. (I may be a little bit off on the number, but I am thinking they did say 900+)

Aron420
03-04-2005, 02:01 PM
Yep and itll have a 5000-7000 rpm redline talk about nuts ... fully ballenced ,blue printed and shot peened crank . custom rods and pistions ,titaneum valve springs, valves that are hollow and filled with sum kind of fancey gas to make them lighter. The heads have been ported and pollished with 50% increace in flow on the exaust gas side and 30% on the intake side and the valves are now both the same size 33mm or sumthing. Bosh has made them a bigger fuel pump and a hole new fuel delivery system with bigger injectors. And BEST OF ALL garret is suppling them with TWIN TURBOS . This will be with out a dought the baddest D-max out there I cant wait to bolt one into my truck:ro)

Elowe65
03-04-2005, 02:17 PM
I've seen the plans for the intake and turbo setup as well as some of the valve train components. Lets just say, it's seems they have changed their performance focus from the cummings to the duramax....