: 6.2 diesel in a Toyota
FLChevy 02-23-2005, 09:59 PM Got the 6.2 in, and it fits fine.
Won't be long. Just have to finish some minor wiring issues, the cooling system and exhaust.
Hopefully I'll have it on the road after a couple more weekends!
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cougarjohn 02-25-2005, 07:42 PM Wow, you must have a tight fit!!!! My biggest concern would be the radiator since the Toyota radiator cooling capacity must be a lot less than the one in a Chev pickup!!! And what did you do to the front suspension since the 6.2 engine is a heavy one. Good luck!!!
Tony Montana 03-03-2005, 04:20 PM FLChevy: Nice work, it looks great in there! I'm helping a buddy put one in his FJ-62. It's a 3FE with an automatic and we're swapping in a 6.2 with ATS turbo and a 5-speed manual. That'll really change how it drives! The dual batteries is a nice touch, we're planning on going that route too although we may locate them remotely in the back of the rig.
We're just getting started on the project, amassing parts and figuring out all of the little issues that seem to arrise with any engine/trans swap. We're getting the adapters/bellhousing from Mark's of Australia, the motor is a rebuildable core that I'm rebuilding at work (automotive machine shop), and the tranny is a brand new Toyota 5-speed. So if you don't mind I've got a few questions for you:
- What route are you going with the power brakes? It seems to me one could either use a belt driven vacuum pump coupled with the stock Toyota master cylinder or use a Chevy diesel power steering pump coupled with a Chevy diesel hydraulically boosted master cylinder. There may be other options too?
- Speaking of power steering pumps... did you use a Chevy one or the stock Toyota? Which route we go will depend largely on what we decide to do with the brakes. It seems to me that the Chevy would be easier since fabricating brackets to mount the Toyota one on the Chevy would probably be a little harder than hooking the Chevy pump up to the Toyota steering box.
- What wiring issues are you running into? Due to the 6.2's inherently simple nature I had anticipated the wiring to be the easiest part of the swap. I'm not knocking you, just curious as to what I've missed.
Thanks!
Cougarjohn: You might be surprised to know that the 2F and 3F 6-cyl motors which came stock in 'cruisers weigh the same (or even more depending on whose numbers you believe) as the 6.2! We have rebuilt several of these at my work and they look more like a tractor motor than something you'd see in a passenger car. They're very heavy duty.
FLChevy 03-19-2005, 07:51 AM I guess I'll find out on the cooling capacity. Living in Florida will be the true test.
The stock Toyota engine is a 700 lb monster, so the 6.2 doesn't weigh that much more.
I used the GM power steering pump and GM hydroboost for the power brakes.
The 6.2's vacuum pump will provide enough vacauum for the Toyota vacuum booster, and will work fine. I just went the Hydroboost route because I had all the parts from my donor truck. I will say that the Hydroboost gives more assist and stopping power.
Steering was an easy hookup. I had to take A Chevy end and a Toyota end down to the hydraulic shop to have a high pressure line made to go from the hydroboost to the PS box. But if your going straight from the Chevy PS pump to the steering box, a Chevy PS could be used. Just have to cut the one end and flare it for the Toyota box.
Wiring wasn't bad. Just needed a thicker guage wire to the battery. Also the Toyotas voltage sensing wire is too thin and far away. Too much voltage fluctuations and alternator would compensate by overcharging at times.
I sure would be interested in the turbo placement and fitment. Please let me know how that goes!
Tony Montana 03-30-2005, 04:33 PM FL Chevy - thanks for the reply. I'm glad to hear that the stock vacuum pump should work, it'll save us from buying a few more parts. I'm almost done rebuilding the motor, finally, so maybe we'll start getting into the real meat of the project soon. I'll let you know how the turbo install goes.
Fred482` 03-30-2005, 07:09 PM I would check with the local truck salvage yard for an auxillary vacuum tank to augment the vacum pump. The vacuum reservoir only allows for one or two pumps of the brake pedal before it exhausts the vacuum supply. The pump requires a few revolutions to make it up.
An additional reservoir, complete with one-way check valve would greatly help this situation. I found one on a C70 series Chev truck, mounted crossways between the frame rails, just behind the cab. It was plumbed into the existing vacuum booster with a tee fitting. It had a check valve at the tank and two mounting brackets welded on each end, making it easy to remount it. I used this setup on a jeep that had vacuum brakes with a transplanted diesel engine and it worked well.
Tony Montana 06-17-2005, 05:08 PM Fred482 - Thanks for the tips. After all that I think we're going to go with the hydraulically boosted master cylinder.
FLChevy - I'd love an update on your project. How's the rig running? Did you run into any more problems? The swap that I was working on got put on hold for a couple of months. We should be back on it in July though.
FLChevy 06-21-2005, 07:47 AM No more problems. It has now been my daily driver for two months.
Fuel mileage a little less than expected. 16MPG city, 18MPG highway.
But I started running cooking oil last week, so low MPG won't bother me.
Power is a little more than expected. Don't have to put my foot in it at all to go up grades, keep up with traffic, maintain interstate speeds etc.I don't think I will even bother with a turbo.
Interior noise level isn't bad at all.
It runs plenty cool with the Toyota radiator, even in the mid afternoon Florida heat.
Overall I'm pleased with the results.
Hope your swap goes well!
Tony Montana 06-21-2005, 12:53 PM Thanks for the update, it sounds like a sweet ride!
Are you running straight cooking oil or are you making biodiesel? I'm in the planning stages of setting up biodiesel production at home and always looking to hear how others are doing it and how it's working for them.
FLChevy 06-21-2005, 10:38 PM Thanks,
I'm running straight veggie oil. I've only been running on it two weeks, but so far no problems.
I'd like to try making/using biodiesel someday. I guess there's pros/cons to each, Biodiesel and SVO.
I guess the biodiesel would be easier on the inj pump.
Only time will tell how the SVO will work out.
Tony Montana 06-22-2005, 12:56 AM Okay, I just spotted the link to your webpage and now I feel like an idiot. Every question I've asked you so far is there. Sorry for not noticing it sooner. Very nice page, tons of info.
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