went by QT today and saw unleaded for $1.67 and diesel for $2.09 that is .42 cents more a gallon for diesel. now when i decided to go to a diesel truck nobaody ever told diesel would be so much higher than gas. this is just plain hard to take. are the prices ever going to turn around? well so much for the fuel prices offsetting the extra $$ for the duramax/allison. now hopefully i can still get 200,000 miles or so out of it. dogboy

i feel your pain, same thing here diesel is almost 30 cents more on the gallon, Im hoping for the 200,000 miles plus too. I was thinking more like 500,000 then again the way horsepowers gotta hold of me that may be extremely unrealistic thinking.

If it wasnt for the power of the dmax, I might think about going back to gas. These prices are just stupid.

Um, I paid $2.69 over the weekend (reg. unleaded is around $1.90). -:t #2 has gone up at least $.50 over the last two weeks here.

Just paid 2.17 here in So Cal. Unleaded on average is about 1.95-2.05. What makes me sick is 2 years ago when I first got the truck I was paying .99 cents.

$2.299 here in Central New York starting March 1 2005 Oneida County will go up $0.04 a gallon due to increase in sales tax 9.75% the hightest in New York State-:t be buying alot from out of state from then on most likly in Pa.

I went to a Dmax from a 10 cyl Ford. This piece of no-pullin sh*t got 3.7 miles per gallon pulling my 5th wheel and boat. Diesel would have to be 3.90 a gallon to make it a wash for me loaded. Unloaded, diesel would have to be about $5.00 per gallon as the Ford got an outstanding 7 mpg versus the Dmax 16-19 depending on who is driving. The difference in power is also a factor. I dont think fuel prices will go down much if at all, I just think its ridiculous that diesel is higher yet cheaper to produce than gas. I feel for the farmers, trucking companies, construction companies, etc.. This also makes me wonder what others are getting for mileage in a Dmax. Ive heard the Dodge guys are getting over 21?

In central NJ last weekend, paid $1.919, and drove back to Vermont, where the best I could do was $2.179. It was the first time I had ever dropped over $50 on a tank of fuel (approx 24 gallons purchased).

$2.179 is not a bad price here now. Its more like $2.299 in most smaller stations.

After the heating season is over, diesel should drop back toward gasoline prices. Premium gas here now is about 5 to 10 cents below diesel.

I paid $2.35 a gallon where regular unleaded was at $1.79.... 56 cents more... I am paying less per mile than with the 6.0L Chevy I traded in, so I'm not second guessing myself yet. Even if I broke even on fuel, I'm much happier towing with the duramax.

Regular unleaded here is 1.93 and diesel is 1.98. I can handle that.

I paid 1.99 a gallon, reg unleaded is about 1.79

2.49 a freakin gallon??? reg is 2.09-

btw that was at shell-they tend to be a little higher,but diesel keeps rising-

Let's all give a big hand to Exxon-Mobil.

THE #1 MOST PROFITABLE CO IN AMERICA LAST YEAR. -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t -:t

I guess all that war stuff and supply talk was a bunch of BS. Just plain old corporate greed at the heart of it all.

The problem is their is no reason for Diesel to cost more than gas, it's only because the Corp decides how much product to put out to market, and that drive's the price's up for diesel.

Sick and tired of spending $700- $800 More a month on fuel between the big truck and the little truck than I was a year ago. With no real justifacation other than corporate greed.

And now that they got us by the short hair's there's not much we can do. Next little truck will be a gasser if fuel price's don't turn around.

:rippedhan yes we have

:banghead: That's what I feel like sometimes with fuel price's

:boxing: Wait till I catch up to a Oil Corp exec one day

:smashfrea A little of this for him too

:flipa: And a couple of these as i leave him

:sheephump In the mean time this is what their doing to us. (we are the sheep)


Ok I'm done :rant: ing for now.

DD

$2.62 here, and climbing. 0.40 cents more than regular. I wanna know why?:mad:

mee tooo!!!!

I have an '02 Dmax 2500 4x4 and my husband has an '04 gas 2500 4x4, he gets 11 mpg and I get 18. I also read on a paper at a gas station here in Calif. that diesel people pay a 24% tax on their gas! Is this true?

$2.54/Gallon in Shell in Washington State

Just saw on the local news that Oregon has the third highest diesel prices in the nation. $2.50 and up now.

Jay

I just filled up at the Flying J in Tulsa at $1.78. Unleaded was also $1.78. I was crying before I saw what the rest of you are paying. I will be quiet now.

Check this website. Crude prices were up over $2.00 a barrel today alone. It is over $52.00 and expected to go to about $58 or higher. Reason stated: high demand for home heating oil in the northeast and China's high demand for oil and getting higher.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

Tom Cobb

Diesel went from 2.34 on Sunday to 2.56 today in Portland OR. This is dis-cussin!!!! Regular unleaded is 1.94. How can diesel be .62 cents more than gas??

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:wtf:

Just wait till spring and summer gets here it will be cheaper then gas, Diesel is always higher in the winter. One thing is demand in the winter, heating oil etc.

i got it for 1.78 here in ky

Regular unleaded here is 1.93 and diesel is 1.98. I can handle that.
Flip those around down here.

The price spread here in Austin, Texas is between 1.89 and 2.09 a gallon.

Anytime there is a $0.20/gal price differential in the same corner of town, that tells me there is something weird going on.

Anyone have ideas as to why this would happen?

avg price in Louisiana is around 1.85-2.09. I can remember when diesel was .40 cheaper than gas,, that was before I became a diesel owner, but you gotta love the power !! I had a 1500 chevy z71 before with a 350, and it struggled pulling my little 28ft 5er, and my duramax pulls it like I'm dragging a beer can back there !!

it is 2.40 and higher in some stations in so cal... sucks..

$2.599 here!

i can tell you why it is happening.....it is called price gouging and they are jellious that you have more power at a low cost.

Just wait till spring and summer gets here it will be cheaper then gas, Diesel is always higher in the winter. One thing is demand in the winter, heating oil etc.

Sorry to say that was not the case last summer out west. As I recall, the price of diesel exceeded gasoline last spring (about the time I bought my truck) and has never been less since that time. I do not see that changing.

The increasing crude price may explain the increasing price in fuels, but not the big jump in diesel over gasoline. They should both rise at the same rate with the changing price in crude.

My thought is a lot of this goes back to the Bush I and Clinton administrations when their justice departments allowed the consolidation in the refinery industry. We now have Exxon-Mobil, Chevron-Texaco, etc. The oil companies can now segment the county and have an "understood" agreement on the profit margins. The problem is compounded by the lack of independent refineries. They used to put pressure on the big guys, but the large companies have bought up most of the small guys. There is a lot less competition than there was 10 years ago.

A solution is to put pressure on congress to bring competition back in the industry. I would like to see a break-up of the previous mergers and incentives for new and independent refiners. Unfortunately, no one in the news media is leading the charge. At one time, I thought the airline industry and trucking industry would have the influence (and lobbying) to keep things under control, but it has not worked out thay way. Try writing your congressman and senator, it can not hurt.

just filled up @ 84.9 per litre, insane :rant:

I read an article today that stated that Hawaii was paying the most at $2.64, Washington State is second at $2.52 and Oregon comes in third at $2.43. The local station I go to is charging $2.599 a gallon now. These prices are killing me! Does anybody have any ideal why the prices have gone up over a dollar in 14 months?

Does anybody have any ideal why the prices have gone up over a dollar in 14 months?

A significant increase in the price of crude and lack of competition in the refinery market.

:eek: I have to admit from the prices everyone else is paying, I should just BE HAPPY...:D But this last summer I was paying $1.49 to $1.59 for PREMIUM. This morning I payed $1.94 gal. for the same PREMIUM. The little town I live in Only carries Premium at the two stations. :rolleyes:

$2.62 in Colville,WA. Its funny how the supposedly cheaper fuel to refine costs so much more to buy.
I really feel sorry for the long-haul owner operators out there,they cant be making any kind of profit right now.

It's 1.959 here in MO (St Peters) today... Tomorrow, Who knows?

Reason stated: <snip>{snip} China's high demand for oil {snip}.

Tom Cobb Screw China... (JMHO) They'te eating EVERYTHING driving our costs through the roof.</snip>

just filled up @ 84.9 per litre, insane :rant:


I've been filling at the superstore, they are still 75.9 as of the 21-Feb, plus another 5 cents back on groceries (yes I do buy food too).

Just paid $2.65/gallon yesturday in the I.E./Southern California.

Its more than Super Unleaded....what the....!!!!!!!

LATER!

I did something today that made me feel a little better... I recieved a Shell credit card application in the mail today. In the portion where you fill out your personal information to apply for the card, I wrote the following with a Sharpie marker: WHY IS DIESEL 40 CENTS MORE PER GALLON THAN PREMIUM? YOU CROOKED BASTARDS! WHAT THE ******? Then I mailed it back to them in their postage paid envelope. I feel a little better, I guess..

If you lived in Canada - Ontario, anyway, the price of diesel is $0.76 Cdn per litre, whereas unleaded is $0.77 to $0.81 Cdn. All of that translates into $2.33 USD per US gallon. The only benefit we have is knowing that the gassers are paying more.

VW diesel owner

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In canada you say... I'm in Regina Canada and diesel is 1-2 cents a litre more than gas...whats up with that ?

I've been filling at the superstore, they are still 75.9 as of the 21-Feb, plus another 5 cents back on groceries (yes I do buy food too).
We stopped there on our way down. Only stop for fuel in Canada. I liked the coupon, we forgot wiper fluid.

In the Yukon when we drove through it was 99 cents a liter.

Around 2.60 in central oregon when regular is 2.10. Don't understand why the west coast is hit so hard. We don't even use much heating oil out here! Retail prices for everything are going to be soon to be affected.

$2.19 here in so. cal. Tomorrow is fill-up day, so lets see how much $$$ it jumps. It's nice to see that 18mpg:ro)

jumped to $2.25 in the East Valley of Phoenix last night! Jeez its a good thing the Dmax gets good fuel mileage..... ug

Diesel around here is 91.9L. That equals out to $3.68 a US Gal. WTF???

Jumped from $1.99 gal yesterday to $2.09 this AM. Only for three days since I bought my first diesel in Sept. 04 have I paid less per gallon than the gassers!

Diesel around here is 91.9L. That equals out to $3.68 a US Gal. WTF???

Did you factor in the conversion from Canadian to U.S. dollars in your $3.68? If you did....Yikes!!!!

175.9 morris ala

Just filled up yesterday Englewood CO at $1.959. Been running around 1.99 to 2.19 around here since it started to jump in the middle of September. I paid $1.77 in Albuquerque when I went through there on new years eve. Hope it starts dropping before my summer travels.

$1.78 for diesel in Hattiesburg, MS. :pimp: You guys in the NW are getting:sheephump

Most of the refineries in the Utah, Wyoming, Montana are spending millions of dollars on developing Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel to meet the EPA requirements. I am wondering if they are just passing the cost along to the consumer to finance their projects.

Filled up This morning at the cheapest place with'n 75 miles.

Unleaded is at 1.76 and Diesel is 2.56

I have seen it at Shell for 2.85, chevron 2.74 and the 76 was 2.97

Worst part was there were 2 trucks getting fuel at the 76 and it is 2 blocks from the Arco (the ARCO has 4 bays 2 outside are for little trucks and inside pumps are for big trucks I think the 18 pump is a satellite for 19 there are always big trucks lined up, the outside pumps are the high output volume too so the single sided dump trucks use those too)
Those two trucks must have 76 fleet cards or something cause I don't see any other reason to pay 40 cents more.... beside I won't go there I think that is where I got the H2o in my fuel this summer?

Does anyone use the Pacific Pride stations in the Northwest...I was wondering how much cheaper there diesel is........there are 2 stations within 5 miles of me?

I don't ever hear why don't you drive the car because the price of diesel is so high...the wifes Pontiac runs on Premium only :D

Just my .02

Lowest and highest on todays FlyingJ fuel list:


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If you want to know how your fuel is taxed per state, go to here:

http://www.iftach.org/taxmatrix/choose_table.asp

Stopped by the cheapest place I could find. Was the Star Mart for 2.349 per gallon for diesel. This SUCKS!!! I remember when I first bought a diesel It was priced cheaper than regular unleaded. I have watched diesel prices rise at a rapid rate in the last 2 weeks. WTF !!!
Mark

http://katu.com/stories/75132.html

I am not sure if this applies everywhere...but I have a Pacific Pride cardlock account....this is where I get B20...and usually always Diesel #2 is cheaper than what you would see at the retail pumps...how much varies.

But right now..D#2 at a shell station was 2.47 at ARCO was 2.35 and at the cardlock was 2.19.
Another benefit is the quality....I can see big CIMTEK filters at the pumps and the turnover is good.

You just have to fill out a credit application...because the bill comes as an invoice to your house. Some may charge you 2 to 3 cents higher for the credit per gallon...but still cheaper and the quaility is better.

You better check prices as of today :) I also use Pacific Pride in Oregon ...primarily Aurora and Salem. As of 15 minutes ago #2 is about $2.59 everywhere ... and B20 in Aurora is $2.86 and Salem $2.79! I usually run B20 unless there is a .20+ cent price difference then I go back to #2.



I am not sure if this applies everywhere...but I have a Pacific Pride cardlock account....this is where I get B20...and usually always Diesel #2 is cheaper than what you would see at the retail pumps...how much varies.

But right now..D#2 at a shell station was 2.47 at ARCO was 2.35 and at the cardlock was 2.19.
Another benefit is the quality....I can see big CIMTEK filters at the pumps and the turnover is good.

You just have to fill out a credit application...because the bill comes as an invoice to your house. Some may charge you 2 to 3 cents higher for the credit per gallon...but still cheaper and the quaility is better.

RonJT, my bad ...I thought you were in Oregon.

tophog,

Forgot to put down the B20....2.59 at Pacific pride and 2.49 at another B20 retail pump..but they use Recycled versus the vigin soy at Pacific Pride.

I do believe that if the tax breaks are implemented then people are going to be buying more bio.

The price spike in the pacific northwest is similar what happened in here in Southern California last summer or so. Then is was due to lack of refining capacity and the new fuel..the new fuel has been here since last year. I wonder if this is going to happen to some extent throughout the country.

What's happened to diesel prices over the last few years is absurd. IMO it's a conspiracy to alter the economy ...as diesel prices primarily impact semi-truck operators/truck companies ..our diesel use is minoric (not sure that's a word) compared to what the big trucks use. By hiking diesel prices it indirectly impacts the economy as the price of just about everything increases as a result of increased shipping costs.

I don't buy the increased refinery costs one bit ...other then it's an excuse for the oil companies to pad their pockets further. Hell, I'll park mine and ride the harley as much as I can ...that'll show'em :)

Ok so what can we do?

Tophog,

The lack of refining capacity is intentional....it allows for a tight market that only drives up the price. Oil companies can say they are not manipulating the market because the market sets the price.

The classic example was the Shell oil refinery here east of LA....they want to shut it down..not enough profits...to much to upgrade...too old no one would buy it...produces 6% of the states diesel.

Well the state made Shell put it up for sale....they did not want to sell it....because they wanted a tighter market. Obviously there were buyers and it was sold even with all the restrictions that shell put on the sale.


That is a clear cut example of an oil company trying to create a tight market at the refining level.

What to do???

I choose to buy some alternate form of fuel in the Bio. It may cost more but I can tell you...just from reading on this site....more and more people are becoming aware.

It actually is what is needed in our trucks...do some research here...the ULSD may not have enough additives to make up for the lost lubricity..bio will make it up and it is a fuel not an additive.

We cannot replace petro with bio but we can start to make a dent with a fuel that is actually beneficial to our trucks.

I really would like to figure out how to make quality bio at home for my own personal use.

Ok so what can we do?As peon pickup owners I don't think there is anything we can do...we don't use enough diesel to make a difference...I could be wrong. I personally will park mine, or at least use it less ... knowing it won't make any difference ...however it will make me feel better :)

Now if all independent and corporate trucking companies would go on a 2 week strike or something and not buy/burn any diesel that would probably get someone's attention...but I doubt would have any long lasting impact...and the truckers would go broke in the process.

The problem is we all know "someone" is responsible for these imaginary/fictious oil crisis where the real question is what needs to be done to stop manipulating fuel prices like we are puppets on the end of a string ...actually if you look at what's going on we are puppets ...diesel burning puppets. And don't give me that "Well fuel has been $3+/gal in Europe for the last 'n' years ..." Big deal, that's their problem. :rant: I'm a US citizen and want my .99/gal diesel! :)

Paying $1.99 here in Michigan (for the moment)

Pissed as much as anyone.

There's very few places for me to purchase diesel here on the florida panhandle. The prices are wacky here. One place will be like $2.10 another will be almost $2.40. With in 5 miles of each other. According to the one website the gulf coast is supposed to have some of the cheapest prices. Obviously not where I'm at!:mad:

All this oil business is the biggest crock of poo I have ever heard in my life.I have a newspaper article that gives the breakdown of the cost to produce 1 gal. of gasoline.0.50-0.60 cents:eek: Yes, that`s it!:mad: You think it costs them anymore now? NOPE!!!Since diesels cheaper to produce/refine, the cost to make is even less:cussing: The profits they`re making are absurd.All based on lies,fear and the b.s on terrorism.Look back in the mid-`70`s the powers that be said in 30yrs.or so, oil all gone.Still here!!Well how`s about that:rolleyes: Has anyone heard about the humongous oil field they found in Trinidad,bigger than Alaska`s?? Probably not.A buddy of mine was down there this past fall and heard the buzz on the street and in their news.Think the propoganda newpapers and tv news reports,in this country, controlled by the Elite are going to tell us this,NOPE!Is bio-diesel the answer?Enviromental impact,I think yes.Absurd profit margins on bio,just like reg. diesel,I think not.How come bio isn`t half the price of oil diesel.It`s made here,right?????This is just my opinion,agree or disagree,the information is out there.If you find it you will be equally disappointed/appalled as I at what this country and world is slowly bit by bit,becoming.Shameful.I still would not want to live anywhere else,but sometimes I dread what the future may bring.-:t Sorry about the:rant: I tend to do that sometimes):h
Any opinions,good or bad,all appreciated.Thanks!!:D

I have only been a diesel owner for a couple of years, but it has been my experience, that durring the winter months diesel does get higher then gas. IT is typically not .30 gal higher, but is higher. It typically is .10 - .20 gal cheaper in the summer. I ask a gas buyer for a filing station once before, and he told me the reason was because all the deisel refinerys switch over to convert to heating oil durring the winter months, so not producing as much diesel. Come spring they will produce more diesel again and price should drop.... Atleast I hope it follows the trend of the last couple of years.

I work in the oilfield in canada I live by 3 huge refinerys and I pay 3.05 a gallon that in Canada is 80.9c per liter thats crap !!!!

Well I guess I could be driving a gas :badidea:

2002 duramax cc,s/b lt 3" lift edge programer 285-75-16 m/t tires, compustar starter/alarm, sid steps, cat mud flaps, 2 12" subs and a whole lot of power

Just spoke to the supplier that I buy fuel from here in Southern California. He says that his cost for diesel went up .45 a gallon this week alone, before the taxes. His cost today is $1.75 a gallon, again, before taxes. Can only guess what my cost will be............... I've had my truck ('05 Duramax Crew Cab, 2 wheel drive) one month today; 3,100 miles so far. Aside from the better mileage, and towing capability, not so sure I made the right choice...... Oh yeah, supplier also said to look for diesel to start becoming harder to get in the near future. Somebody out there is making alot of money off of this...........

$2.70 in Renton, WA by my house this morning. It was 2.40 last nite, and regular is 2.00 a gal. there. I feel like I should call the SVU detectives...

Every day that diesel goes up I like my supplemental lp system more and more. My lp was purchased for $1.09/gal (last summer's bulk buy price) and it stretches my diesel mileage to 26 to 30 mpg. Let's face it, world demand for oil is going through the roof, led by China and India. I'm seriously considering getting into the waste vegetable oil biodiesel game.

:rant: Unbelievalble, Diesel was 2.50 last friday, 2.60 wednesday and now its 2.70!!!!!

$2.19 here in so. cal. Tomorrow is fill-up day, so lets see how much $$$ it jumps. It's nice to see that 18mpg:ro) $2.30 yesterday.

The problem is not with the oil compants but with TAXES such as import duty rerfinery tax pipeline royal and taxes gross recite taxs property taxs and lets not forget highway use and general sale taxe by Federal,State, and local Goverments add it all up and most of us are paying over $0.90 a gallon or more. in Oneida County, New York just in State & Local Sale tax we pay over $0.25 a gallon . Or elected officals have gone on a spending spree and we are picking up the tab. I have tacken my Transfer-flo tank off can not fill it up on what money is left each week. Plus it is a easy fill-up for someone to just remove fuel with out paying me.

whatever happened to the situation in 2000, when all the truckers went to Washington to protest the prices? is everyone just becoming used to the abuse?

My Volvo holds 300gals and another 50gals on the reefer. Most of the trucks are passing along the fuel cost, I am not moving my truck without having the 'fuel surcharge' for the run. We know how much cost/profit we have, we will never take a load for less than our brake even. With this said....we are all going to pay for it at some point, I am not going to drive the truck for a loss....this means, next time you buy anything(that is everything) that comes off a truck this fuel cost will be passed along to the consumer. WE ARE ALL GOING TO PAY FOR IT!

This is the other thing......when I am driving for hours on end I notice we have way to many SUVs out there, maybe if everyone who does not need to pull (aka boat, camper, or work trailer) stops driving these gas hogs this might help. When I was a kid there we no SUVs with DVD players......we all climbed into wagons not trucks! These moms driving to soccer pratice and dance class might be able to help. But then again we have turned in to a "its all about me" socitiy.

Our nation loves SUVs.....I hate them. If I did not have a boat to tow.....I would have sold my Duramax for a car that gets 30-50mpg a long time ago.

Paid $2.199 near Gainesville, Florida, regular is $2.05. Filled up in Brooksville, Florida, two weeks ago at $1.909 and regular was $2.05.

If you are travelling to Florida, try and fill up in Georgia, and If going down I75, try and delay your fueling until you get south of Alachua County.(Gainesville area) Prices drop in Marion County, near Ocala.

it is BS i can't waite till we have hydrogen or some other alternative fuel..and all of the oil companies will beg us to buy their oil when we crash their economy it will be great!!!!!!!!!!!:):ro) :rolleyes: :D :lol: :muahaha:

whoo hoo down in san antonio, im only paying about 1.87, but there are a few places trying to jack it up to over 2.00

Diesel here in the great state of Texas around 1.90 not to bad.

Paid 2.07 Sat at KT and filled the farm on road tank Friday for 1.89 for 500 gal plus 4.20 per gal of soy oil, and we run b20 year round.

See, their evil plan is working...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/muahaha.gifThey have conditioned us now, into believing that we are getting a good deal on fuel when the price is at $2 a gallon.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/exactly.gif

Next stop, $3.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/help.gif

Few things going on here.

Oil is back up to over $50/bbl. And, for those of you who don't know, an API barrel is 42 US gal, not 55.

Refineries do not "switch over" to heating oil. They blend their gasoil stocks to make both. In the winter, they just have to blend more heating oil. Why people would use a transportation fuel to heathomes (when natgas is better and cleaner) is beyond me.

Refineries also take most of their turnarounds now, before they start their summer gasoline runs (march/april). This can make supplies tight.

A couple years ago there was a small fire at a refinery in northern California. The California government made them shut down for months. This caused a shortage out there and price spikes. You can't screw the industry at every opportunity, then gripe about shortages.

Most refiners are gearing up right now for ULSD. The drop to 30ppm sulfur will cost alot of money, and they will see that prices go up accordingly. They are also reducing sulfur in off-road diesel mostly to keep pipeline cross-contamination under control.

I work for a company that makes desulfurization catalyst. We had record sales last year, and will get a great bonus...so if it's any consolation, it doesn't all go to the arabs.:ro)

Filled up again today, paid 76cents/L compared to 88cents/L for Gas.

I'm happy to pay that much when I know I'm saving 12 cents/litre....

thats about 38 US cents/Gal cheaper!

"Why people would use a transportation fuel to heathomes (when natgas is better and cleaner) is beyond me."

The closest any natural gas line comes to my location is 20 miles.

It is my understanding that the petroleum industry keeps much lower inventories now than it used to. Reduces the risk of paper losses if petroleum product prices drop, and reduces money tied up in inventory.

Paid 2.19/9 today :eek: . Still wouldn't go back to gas. :ro)

Here in nampa id cheapest that i found is $ 250 a gallon. IM now looking for a little gas mizer. Cuz premo-unleaded is only $212 a gallon. What happend to the days when diesel was cheaper than gas???????.

It's getting pretty tough to make trucking pay at this point. I hotshot for a living and it's hard to fill up everyday or sometimes twice a day with fuel at 2.00+ dollars. When you start burning over 100 dollars a day in fuel it gets painful. It used to be your truck was the big expense, now it is fuel. I think before to long this high fuel is going to start increasing inflation as everything we buy is shipped via truck.

I filled up yesterday for 1.92 in NJ. Went to PA for the weekend and diesel was anywhere from 2.10 - 2.38. I'm glad I filled up in NJ.

I was suprised to see that in PA diesel is about .30 higher then premium gasoline where in NJ diesel and premium gasoline are about the same price.

2.78 today. This station isn't the norm (I think everywhere else is about 2.50-2.70 near me) but its what I drive by everyday. I think I might have to get rid of my dmax (I don't do it justice anyways since I rarely haul big loads or trailers anymore) for a gasser if it goes any higher. The news said today that relief is not in the future and prices will keep going up.

Well I noticed that the other day Diesel was $1.75 a gallon and then almost overnight it went up to $2.00 a gallon here. Seems odd but I guess with oil prices being the way they are this is a sign of things to come...I think we need to find a plan and lobby to lower diesel prices. This is getting out of hand...Anyone else agree?

If we don't come up with something when will it end?? 3, 4 , or 5 a gallon.

$2.05 near Mobile Al. I figured the trucking industry would be raising heck by now. Fuel prices are sky high, and oil companies are seeing their highest profits ever. Duhhh.....But still, they and the government keep giving excuse after excuse for the high prices. Censored

I got a tank full of fuel last night (2/27/05) for $1.83. It was at the Kroger fuel station near Frankford and Midway in Dallas.....

L8r

Payed $2.15 yesterday in Mi.

$2.84 last night in Salem, Oregon

I have a plan but won't be able to complete until late tonight. Going to swap my wife's VW TDI engine with mine :) Wonder if she'll notice the extra torque? :ro)

$2.099 Friday morning, $2.149 Friday night, $2.249 Saturday afternoon.
I'm scared to go home tonight:(
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

2.70 in WA right now. They are hiking the price again tomorrow (info from a station owner) but they dont know how much. Expect 3.00 a pop sometime in march tho. Its gone up .30 up here in the last 2 weeks.

I looked at the Flying J national fuel price web page, and the prices in Washington are totally out of line. Maybe some of you would find it advantageous to move to Oklahoma, where the prices looked to be about a dollar per gallon less.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif

Filled up for $1.89/gal in Girdwood, Alaska, $2.09/gal where I live though. I bought the diesel truck for the cheaper fuel, but now the fuel is as high or higher than unleaded. Just my luck, my gasser was almost paid off :mad: .

i just filled up today in Aurora, IL for 2.15 what is going on with these prices it is outrages

gas went down to 1.75 and diesel went up to 2.15

Went up 10 cent's overnight to $2.29

oil company's--->:nutkick:<----us

Ever get that feeling that your a sheep :sheephump

i dont wanna hear anyone that isnt from the Washington, Norhtern Idaho or Norhtern Oregon area complaining about how much their fuel costs. The cheapest I can find it around here is $2.70. That is .35 cents higher than Premium Unleaded. This is Fu#*ing ridiculous. When I bought my first diesel (about 4 years ago) diesel was less than regular unleaded by about .5 cents. I really can not believe that the prices are this high. Is there anything that we can do???? anyone??? -Jeff

The lowest in the Tacoma area yesterday was the 76 and the Flying J (one block away, they always compete and tie).... $2.59

down on the flats?? I grew up in Browns Point, my mom still lives over there, and so do I when I am home from Skool.....

We all know that the prices are rising but can any body explain why?

It's called demand. China and India's appetite for fuel along with ours. OPEC has seen that when they raise the price, we keep buying. They make more money even if they raise it to the point that it slows consumption. In other words, if they sell half as much fuel at twice the price, they make more money because there is less work involved to produce less product at a higher profit.

What is truly odd is that diesel costs less to produce than unleaded oxygenated gasoline.

I paid 2.39 last night, and it was .02 more than Premium, and $3.00 less than 100 Octane race gas. ;)

I started using 87 octane unleaded, I just add red dye to it!):h

$2.19 a gallon up here in beautiful sunny warm Northern Ohio :eek: oh wait, it's snowy and crappy and cold - still $2.19 a gallon Censored

We all know that the prices are rising but can any body explain why?It's easy, the oil company's are greedy. As I have stated before Exxon/Mobil was the NUMBER 1 MOST PROFITABLE CO IN AMERICA LAST YEAR.:exactly: And how did they get that way? Easy, they control the supply, and when the demand goes up and there's not enuf product they raise price's and tell US that it is because of higher demand, when in fact if they would raise production to stay in line with demand, price's would stay stable, but they don't, they keep inventories artificially low and then blame US for the price increase, yet Exxon/Mobil was the NUMBER 1 MOST PROFITABLE CO IN AMERICA LAST YEAR, wonder how that happened?
Was it because they are doing the best they can and just like the rest of us, are barely holding their head above water to pay their bill's? Or is it because they are taking advantage of the situation and making themselves rich? I choose the latter.
Every winter they blame the price increase of Diesel fuel on the fact that we use more #2 Fuel to heat our home's because of the cold. Well fuCensored in HELLO it's WINTER, it get's COLD in the Winter. It happen's every year about this time and I can guarantee that it will be cold NEXT WINTER also. But do they start producing more fuel for the coming winter month's earlier in the summer and fall? NO they wait until the last minute, then tell us there's a shortage of fuel and they have to raise prices. Huh imagine that.

The oil company's raised the price of Diesel up and over the price of gas bacause they can, there's no organized group to complain about it. The largest vocal group, the trucker's, don't care much any more because now they get fuel surcharge's from the shipper's for the extra fuel price's. The shipper's don't care because they just pass the charge onto the consumer. The consumer just gripe's a little about the small price increase on the final product, and pay's it. So the oil company's figured out that they can get away with the price increase, and they did it.
We pick up owner's are just a drop in the bucket for them and don't even count.
The only one's that I'm suprised at that haven't put up a louder voice in opposition are the airline co's. They are taking a big hit with their fuel price's.

Year's ago the America'n goverment broke up the monoply of Rockefeller called Standard Oil into many smaller independant co's which created competition and brought price's down and more importantlly in check with reality. But nowaday's with all the lobbying in congress and all the big buck's spent on buying the politician's no one will touch the few oil company's that have merged back into giant corp's which once again are creating a monoply on the production, distrubition, and pricing of Fuel.

What would it take for the president of Mobil, to get together with the president of Shell, and the president of BP and decide among themselves to slow down production which in turn will raise price's, which in turn will make themselves look better because their co is now seeing RECORD PROFIT'S, which in turn will get them a better multi-million dollar salary and stock option's and perc's?
I would imagine it wouldn't take much more than a get together at a golf game on a warm sunny day in the Bahama's in the middle of winter (remember from earlier, Winter=cold in northern state's)

Does my :rant: sound too simple to happen? Maybe, but usually the simplest answer's are the correct one's.

OPEC get's together every few month's to set oil output number's, which in turn help's determine price's. Hmmm sound's like something a monoply would do.

EXXON/MOBIL WAS THE #1 MOST PROFITABLE CO IN AMERICA LAST YEAR, I'm sorry did I mention that already?

DD

2.59 this morning headed to work wonder what it will be on the way home bet 2.61 and that is the cheap ARCO on Puyallup St in Tacoma the 76 is 10 cents more now.

I read yeasterday in Financial Times that Opec used to be gun shy about letting the price go too high but since this new younger guy took over he has came out and said that they will let the dollar a barrel climb. I guess in 1980 they tried that and it bit them in the tail so they held it steady. With this new guy he said they will leave output the same maybe even choke it off a bit. The Price will stay above 50 dollars a barrel the rest of the year and climb next fall again.

Ok it is time to quit sending 82 percent of the oil coming out of Alaska Overseas and Open Fricken ANWR hell with the greenies we have one pipeline and hell it was built in the 70's the new one would be so much better! There is estemated 30 to 50 billion barrels of oil there.

I don't really get the Whole SUV bashing deal, I grew up traveling around in my mom and dads Pontiac station wagon that thing was huge had a 455 in it probably got 4 miles to the gallon, all the kids in my community were driven around in them station wagons whats the big deal.... I don't get it:confused: even huge Suburbans get beter gas mileage than that. Personally we have 7 people in my family we just traded our 00' Pontiac Bonneville SSEI (premium fuel) for a Suzuki XL7 this SUV gets 27 miles to the gallon on the highway and 20 around town pretty good for a 4wheel drive SUV......can't beat a 10000 mile warranty or 10 years......my .02

http://www.anwr.org/backgrnd/where.htm

I paid $1.73 this morning. God Bless Texas.

diesel should have been low price by now,,,,but due to warm climate price will stay up for atlest two more weeks,,,you all are right about diesel being use for heating and thats why washington,oregon,california ,utha,,prices are up higher than any other state,,alot of business bought and reserve fuel from local suppliers to get thru a cold winter,but over esimated,and f,,,,k up because we are have spring climate here in kennwick wa, supply and demand is backward when it comes to diesel...during summer more people fly and more farming,during winter more people heat.remember there's no carpooling when running a tractor,farming...(SUPPLIERS ARE CHARGING MORE FOR DIESEL TO ACCOMADATE FOR THE HEATING OIL THEY LOST ON!!!!)

$2.75 south of Seattle, WA. -:t:(:eek::rant::mad::rippedhan:banghead::cussing:

A gas truck getting 12 mpg, paying $1.95 per gallon of gas, is the same as a diesel pickup getting 18 mpg paying $2.92 a gallon for diesel fuel. Or, $2 gas is even with $3 diesel. As long as diesel is under $3 when gas is around $2, the diesel wins.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/blahblah.gif

i totally agree with pick........i'm still happy with DIESEL!!!!

Castle Rock, WA. Unleaded 2.09, plus 2.20, Premium 2.30, DIESEL 2.75 and rising. Had to run the old ATM through twice to fill her up. This sucks! :rant:

Yeah!Yeah!Quik Trip in Oak Grove,Mo as of last nite,Diesel$1.99,Gas $2.05.Bet it don't last very long tho.

How do you suppose these damn politicians/oil barons would like it if they went into a Chevrolet dealer to but a Chevy and had to pay the price of a Cadillac?That's the way i feel about diesel prices being higher than gas.:mad:

Ya here in the north diesel is usually 5-10 cents a liter lower than gas but now it is 2 cents higher. this is bullsh1t!!!!!

Well tomorrow you should expect to see Diesel and gas prices jump at least .24 cents in most places as per a report on the news and on MSNBC.... I say we are in for a nice long EXPENSIVE SUMMER guys.... Things can only get worse from here, or better depending on which side you see....

Yeah!Yeah!Quik Trip in Oak Grove,Mo as of last nite,Diesel$1.99,Gas $2.05.Bet it don't last very long tho.

How do you suppose these damn politicians/oil barons would like it if they went into a Chevrolet dealer to but a Chevy and had to pay the price of a Cadillac?That's the way i feel about diesel prices being higher than gas.:mad:
IMDURAMAC, diesel was $1.99 AT EVERY FUEL STOP in MO last week. That alone says something. Diesel has never been the same price state wide! Now it is making the $2.04 and $2.06 mark in eastern MO.

And one more thing....I filled up last Sunday in Villa Ridge @ $1.99 going to Tulsa. A billboard for RoadRanger Truck Stop was showing $1.81.:eek: Once I got to the exit they too were selling it for $1.99 There stop is in the middle of no where....the bill board is around a few fuel stops. So they trick us into thinking there fuel is cheaper......just to get there on E to find out it is not. That's Censored cool!!!!

I still think all the moms and dads driving SUVs need to park them for good. And start driving wagons with better fuel milage.

If you do not pull you should really consider not driving trucks(12MPG to 30MPH!!!)!!!!! This is the only thing that may work. If not, then look at the money you could be saving.

Well tomorrow you should expect to see Diesel and gas prices jump at least .24 cents in most places as per a report on the news and on MSNBC.... I say we are in for a nice long EXPENSIVE SUMMER guys.... Things can only get worse from here, or better depending on which side you see....
That is funny....we are going from "winter is cold" that is why you have to pay so much. To, "look it is summer.....everyone is taking vacations" that is why you have to pay so much!!!

It is all Censored crAAp!! I guess when the President of the United States comes from Oil money thing like this happen.:mad:

Some food for thought, next time you are out driving count how many W04 stickers you see on SUVs vs. cars. Guess when I am driving all day and night I notice things like this.:rolleyes:

The hardest...yet easiest and quickest way to save fuel....IS TOO SLOW DOWN!

I average 20mpg...that is between 20 and 22mpg keeping my speed between 60 and 65mph.

IT is freakin boring because I love driving the truck fast...but it cost.

Imagine if everyone would just drive the speed limit...even the SUV's.

Put in some numerically lower gears, and make our trucks salt flat haulers!... or slow down

Filled up yesterday................$2.60 per Gal. Friggin California!!! Sure wish the Warden would agree to move out of this salary eating state.

hey guys, new to the forum i know this reaches out to alot of people i dont know if this would ever do anything but if a diesel boycott for a couple of days in the future could be organized. set dates & tell everybody that u know with a diesel to boycott. nationwide it probably never work, but maybe in local areas. just an idea, never said it was a good one

Ok- diesel in Kansas is now 2.25- "premium" gas is about .20 cheaper. That is fine....but diesel has now exceeded the 114 octane that I burn in my drag bike which used to be 125% higher than gas. Thats just wrong.:confused:

Ok- diesel in Kansas is now 2.25- "premium" gas is about .20 cheaper. That is fine....but diesel has now exceeded the 114 octane that I burn in my drag bike which used to be 125% higher than gas. Thats just wrong.:confused:
Something is VERY wrong!!:exactly: :help:

i hear this morning that it could go even higher to over 3 a gallon in the next few months

A gas truck getting 12 mpg, paying $1.95 per gallon of gas, is the same as a diesel pickup getting 18 mpg paying $2.92 a gallon for diesel fuel. Or, $2 gas is even with $3 diesel. As long as diesel is under $3 when gas is around $2, the diesel wins.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/blahblah.gif
Does your math account for the extra 5 to 6 grand you have to shell out for the diesel option along with the higher maintenance costs. I don't think all the 8.1 guzzlers are forking over 20 bucks every 15,000 miles for a fuel filter along with the an oil sump that's twice the size. If I were buying again today with today's fuel prices, I would be taking a good look at spark ignition again.:cussing: My brother inlaw has a crew cab dually with the 8.1 and unless you have a real need to get to 400 rwhp that thing in stock duds does real well towing his 40ft race car hauler.

Using todays exchange rate I paid $4.85 per gallon of Diesel.
This comes out to 0.97EURO/liter. To stay away from these prices...stay out of Europe...
I guess this explains what type on individualism is needed to still want to drive a Chevy truck over here.

This is why I drive a car that getīs 60 mpg and only has a 5.8gal tank....so all is good :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

Lennart,

That is also why people own so many diesels...the price of fuel.

Oil companies are making record profits....they want a tight market. They will not bring more oil to the market and thereby lower the price.

They want us to buy big SUV's....heaven forbid a 3.0l 6 cyclinder Duramax in a midsize truck.

Diesel here in Boise is up to $2.45 per gallon:eek: . Guess I'll be walking to work.

It must be only on the West Coast. I talked with a couple friends in Arizona last night and they said it is cheaper there. One guy paid 2.14.9 in Tucson and the other was on way home from Corona Cal. and crossed inth the Arizona border and stopped at the Flying J and paid 2.17.9 for diesel. I found it for 2.59.9 in Portland area over the weekend. I have heard that it should drop in a few months.
Mark

still about $2.70 here in Pullman, WA

I saw a station in Eugene, OR on Saturday that had reg for 1.99 and diesel for 2.89. WTF? I wanted to pull in just to paint a soot stripe on their pumps...