: Locking Diff. and the ultimate horror
DuraDen 02-21-2005, 03:35 PM I'm up in Maine scouting out some land for an investment. The development goes deep into the woods with only a small dirt road that is completely iced over. I'm confident in my chariot. Too confident. A road goes off to the right not plowed and I decide the truck is up to it. It wasn't. Front half of truck is buried in snow, the back wheels spinning on solid ice. Night is falling, temps are dropping and I'm miles from no where. I figure I'm a dead man, but at least I die in my truck. Then things get bad. I hear a truck coming up the road and it's a freakin F#@d. Big F350 dually Powerstroke. Ok, now I have a decision to make. Die a gruesome death or let a F%$d pull me out. Let's see, death or humiliation. Hmmm. Well, the thought of my kids inheriting my truck was too much and I let the guy pull me out. Hate to admit it, but aside from the smirk on his face,he was an ok dude.
But here's my question. While in 4wd and trying to get out I opened the driver's door and looked at my front wheel while giving it the goose. It wasn't spinning. I thought with the locking differential all the wheels would spin at once. I tried 4wheel low and it was the same thing. That wheel wasn't spinning. Do I have a problem? Do I have to engage the locking diff.? I thought it was always locked. Please don't tell me I disgraced the Bowtie Family by not knowing how this stuff works. Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks.
McRat 02-21-2005, 03:42 PM Next time: Drop your tires to 30 PSI, and hold lightly on the brake (poor man's posi) while gently trying to go backwards (backwards has slightly more traction than forward).
You do not have posi in the front axle, so you can spin one front tire.
number9 02-21-2005, 04:18 PM Sounds normal to me. With the locking rear axle both of your rear tires (which were on ice) were spinning. The front is a standard open diff (all that is available from GM) and only one tire was spinning - your right one from what you describe. Had the F-350 been in the same situation he would most likely had the same result.
While off roading once with a lot of people a guy in a F-350 crew cab long bed with 8" lift and 39x18.50 Mickey Thompsons was going through some deep ruts and got the bottom of the carrier hung up - not much but *just* enough to stop him. I hooked to him in my S-10 and pulled him out. Everyone thought my S-10 was an off-road hero for pulling that "big truck" out :lol:
TxDoc 02-21-2005, 04:30 PM A multi-mount winch setup would be a nice end of year tax deduction. :)
Diesel Dragon 02-21-2005, 04:47 PM You disgraced the Bowite family by letting a Furd pull you out.:badidea: :Get_him: :Nonono:
You should of sucked it up and froze in your truck. ;)
michael nelson 02-21-2005, 04:52 PM I agree with the dragon I would have rather froze-
michael nelson 02-21-2005, 04:53 PM btw:no onstar???
duramaximizer 02-21-2005, 04:58 PM lol i agree i would have went through a hell of a lot before a ford pulls me out in a duramax .....my first truck i am putting in a front end air locker
aprr454 02-21-2005, 07:32 PM Well I didn't get pulled out by a Ford, but I also had a little mishap this past weekend.
Grandpa and I were down in our woods cutting firewood. In the morning the ground was nice and hard, temp. was around 27*. When we left it was 40*. So I've got the skidloader on, about 10,000lbs worth, and start to crawl down an 8-10% grade in 4lo and all of a sudden the rear end starts to come out:eek: . Yep, it jackknifed. I got very lucky, the only damage was a small dent in the bumper, a small nick out of the wheel flare, and a small dent in the under side of the box, above the tail pipe.:o:
It's officialy a work truck now.
Awe come on.... when it comes right down to it, trucks are trucks and people are people. Don't let brands of wheels come between us. You can meet good people on all sides of the fence.
I agree... any one of us would probably got stuck in the same spot and I sure hope someone in a Dmax or Ford or a horse offers to pull me out.
aprr454 02-21-2005, 07:50 PM Awe come on.... when it comes right down to it, trucks are trucks and people are people. Don't let brands of wheels come between us. You can meet good people on all sides of the fence.
I agree... any one of us would probably got stuck in the same spot and I sure hope someone in a Dmax or Ford or a horse offers to pull me out.
I'll agree to that.;)
:beerchug:
Grey Ghost 02-21-2005, 08:38 PM I'd have had him pull me out http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/nutkick.gif (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=8#), but I'll be damn'ed if I'd admit to it!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/joke.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif!!!!!!
Gary
Unit453 02-21-2005, 09:50 PM Well, as a member of a GM family, I have had the oppurtunity to drive a variety of different vehicles. I cruise an 04 Ford Crown Vic daily at work, having just given up my Impala and back to my GMC for the ride home. Ford does make good vehicles, not many of which I would drive. However, that damn Crown Vic is driven hard. My Impala was driven hard when I needed to and we all realized that for 100,000 miles, you cannot kill that stout 3.8 l V6 or tear up the suspension. We dont so much as change a water pump on the Implalas or even a tranny (4T65E) within 100,000 miles. Those Fords and the Chevys, as mobile offices, are depended on to get us around town, over curbs, through grassy fields, high speeds, endless idle hours, and most importantly, to get us home to the wife. I miss my Impala but I admire the roominess inside the Ford. And that 4.6 is another story. Decent low end Tq, but absolutely no top end power. I call it guttless. It will get when you spool it up and has ok power at highway speeds. Its not a chipped Duramax by no means. Makes me think that I need to get a 3 banger metro to go to and from work just to make the Crown Vic feel better. The point is, to each, their own. I will always own a GM product and so will the wife. Those Ford 4.6's will run to 400,000 miles with minimal maintnence. I know a good product when I see it. How we all wish we has our 96 Caprices back with that stout LT1. I did have to get pulled out by a Dodge Cummins about a month ago when I was high centered on a hunting trail. Luckily my co worker was right behind and to this day he hasnt told anyone but gives me crap about it all the time.
Frank Blum 02-21-2005, 09:52 PM It ain't getting pulled out by another brand that hurts. It's when you go to the coffee shop and all your friends are digging and he hawing. Now for some fatherly advice. Never go anywhere without a shovel, one set of chains for the front, come-along, tow straps and a wench if you are a serious off roader. Later! Frank
sledman 02-21-2005, 10:11 PM It ain't getting pulled out by another brand that hurts. It's when you go to the coffee shop and all your friends are digging and he hawing. Now for some fatherly advice. Never go anywhere without a shovel, one set of chains for the front, come-along, tow straps and a wench if you are a serious off roader. Later! Frank
Is the wench to keep you warm if you have to spend the night.............
McRat 02-21-2005, 10:13 PM If you have the wench trained right, she will get out and dig you out while you stay in the warm truck.
Frank Blum 02-21-2005, 10:15 PM Did I spell something wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Either will work so you don't have to get cold or wet. Later! Frank
michael nelson 02-21-2005, 10:18 PM toucheeeeeee!!!
jmg343 02-21-2005, 10:29 PM Ive been pulled out by ford trucks and tractors, dodges, and a case once too. Im with hoot, I dont care what your drivin as long as it will get me out of whatever hole im in then your a friend to me.
BroncoFanCam 02-21-2005, 11:41 PM Awe come on.... when it comes right down to it, trucks are trucks and people are people. Don't let brands of wheels come between us. You can meet good people on all sides of the fence. Join in if you know the words ....
"C'mon people now... smile on your bother... everybody get together... try and love one another... right now." :joke:
tophog 02-22-2005, 01:03 AM The first mistake was having the ford pull you out :smashfrea The second mistake was sharing the experience with us so we could feel your pain. :badidea: I'm going to have nightmares now. Thanks alot. :sleep:
precision37 02-22-2005, 07:25 AM btw:no onstar???
I've called Onstar up in northern Maine, asked them if they can tell me where I am and they say "Sure!", then silence for a bit ,then "you're not on any of our maps".
Max Owner 02-22-2005, 12:13 PM When I got stuck, all four spun for me. My dad told me so.
Got pulled out a Case tractor...... :(
Max Owner 02-22-2005, 12:14 PM P.S. I wasn't stepping on it hard. Some where we had mentioned in a thread that the front won't lock up at higher RPMs.
redneck45 02-23-2005, 08:41 AM Got stuck in a field back in hunting season, my bud set me up, he has a ford, told me to drive down there. Sunk upto the frame in mud, nothing I tried worked, and there was no one around and gettin dark. So in a last ditch effort I put it in 4 high instead of 4 low and mashed the throttle and just held it there, we slowly pulled out of that mud hole slinging mud and screaming against the rev limiter! My buddy laughed so hard he almost pissed, I was just happy to get out--those damn stock tires did'nt help any.
96vette 02-26-2005, 09:08 PM Rather then have the ford pull me out I would have probulay disassembled the truck and reassembled it about 20ft back.:lol:
Jeff@SGLC 02-27-2005, 01:03 AM I've had the chance to drive both the Impala and the Crown Vics and I agree that the Vic was kinda soft on the get up and go. The other issue I had with the Vic was the car felt to low when getting into that wide sofa of a seat. I always found myself strugling to get back out with all the stuff on the belt. The impala with its actual "bucket" seat fit me much better.
As far as having a Ford Pull me out? If it comes down to it I'll just close my eyes and pretend that clackity clackity sound is a Duramax and not a power stroke lol.
| |