Pics coming soon.....isnt that the famous line we heard a few weeks ago:eek:

Let us know the results Eric. Do you think it would be worth it on a daily driver? 125HP?

The price will seperate the men from the boys

Charger and studs, parts only= 4500.00

just all who do it make sure to use head studs

The price will seperate the men from the boys

Charger and studs, parts only= 4500.00 :eek:


More like the have's from the have not's :bling:

Just make sure the studs are ARP.

Wow $4500 is more than Twins.:eek: Hopefully its the best single in the world for that price.

The price will seperate the men from the boys

Charger and studs, parts only= 4500.00

The price will separate the men from their wives in some cases... ;)

Pics coming soon.....isnt that the famous line we heard a few weeks ago:eek:
You better send the pics to me first :D at least i..........oops i mean the wife can see where the money is going ):h Paint dry yet :grd: More snow called for Friday Eric :help:

lol @ mc rat

The price will separate the men from their wives in some cases... ;)
ummmm is that all it will take??????

ummmm is that all it will take??????):h

Just make sure the studs are ARP.

Wow $4500 is more than Twins.:eek: Hopefully its the best single in the world for that price.

This weekend is gonna ROCK!:ro)

ummmm is that all it will take??????

True. It would be a bargain! To remove my first wife cost about $200k :eek: What I still don't understand is why a divorce can cost thousands, and a box of .38's is only $10. Censored

True. It would be a bargain! To remove my first wife cost about $200k :eek: What I still don't understand is why a divorce can cost thousands, and a box of .38's is only $10. Censored
So the judges can keep busy, and "Unsolved Mysteries' has new material :eek:

whoops.... I almost forgot.... my turn to use this smiley

:nopics:

You know what they say, "marriage is grand, divorce is a hundred grand"

For that price it should be trips

True. It would be a bargain! To remove my first wife cost about $200k :eek: What I still don't understand is why a divorce can cost thousands, and a box of .38's is only $10. Censored
If Kat hears you talking like that, she's going to put a serious whooping on you. ):h

Anyway, once you talk to the boss about adding a charger to her new toy, you be in-line for one.

My first one wasn't that expensive... :eek:

I have about 20 pics so far.... I am at work now, so cant share...

True. It would be a bargain! To remove my first wife cost about $200k :eek: What I still don't understand is why a divorce can cost thousands, and a box of .38's is only $10. Censored
Bwahahahahahahahaha):h

Now there's some irony right there....Juice whining about the lack of pictures.

lots of pics here...

lots of pics here...
here where?

there where ....

I haven't even seen the pics.







:joke:











I took the pictures.

Cool. Yeah, yeah, Cool. Like big turbo an stuff. Fire, Fire, Fire! :ro)

Coming South or will it be too difficult?

Is this charger for your truck Mike???

mine is camera shy

mine is camera shy
Just under the sheet metal, Mike, just under the sheet metal.....

Tom :pig:

lets see it...

do the pics have a virus or something....whats the hold up

all of these threads waiting for pics are about to kill me. im about to cancell my membership. its kinda like goin to a house of ill repute with a pocket full of money and someone sayin you cant have any. LOL this kinda torture will give a guy blue Censored .:lol:

all of these threads waiting for pics are about to kill me. im about to cancell my membership. its kinda like goin to a house of ill repute with a pocket full of money and someone sayin you cant have any. LOL this kinda torture will give a guy blue Censored .:lol:
Rant Noted:

Refund cheque of membership dues is in the mail.
Please send postage for it!):h

....... Good one Eric):h ........... ya got'em hook Line and Sinker!...... me too:iamwithst

I guess it's nothing some of us haven't already seen. I'm more curious to hear the results than to see pictures.

maybe none of the pics turned out with my thumb in front of the lens :stirthepo

.......always a catch

here take your pick:ro)

damn, camera is not cooperating...

or the pricks pic (lower)

wastegate? Those are for sissy's

hmmmmmm

In a weird way I kinda' miss Quad

wastegate? Those are for sissy's

That's what I keep tellin' all the LB7 boys!

We don't need no stinkin' wastegates!! ):h

A few pics

You can see the New ATS Allison pan, very nice.

Notice the head studs that are highly recommended.

A few shots of the pedastal and a side by side with the stocker

That's what I keep tellin' all the LB7 boys!

We don't need no stinkin' wastegates!! ):h
LOL.... What about Relief Valves?
DUAL Relief Valves.

Twins...mmmm

Low end and lower midrange of a stocker.... and upper midrange and high RPM like a big single.
Best of both worlds (so the theory goes..) 4 Mo sleeps.
4 mo sleeps


The Agony/Excitement/Trepidation/Crazy Ju Ju /Expectation Factor is killin me!

Worse yet, I call in Daily for reports!
And they tell me how they like it compared to the LLY Twins! (Because i have 'fuel to spool')

RRRRRRRRGH!

4 More Sleeps.... ooousahhhh!:blahblah:

Here is how it looks when I went home tonite Jeremy:ro)

Looks like ATS did a mighty fine Job!
Props for a great looking unit!

Well... if I sell everything in my garage but the truck, I might be able to have that turbo and a tranny upgrade, but then again, I won't have any tools to put the damn thing in with!

Dan

Well... if I sell everything in my garage but the truck, I might be able to have that turbo and a tranny upgrade, but then again, I won't have any tools to put the damn thing in with!

DanNo problem there, a quick trip North will take care of that, your number 5 on the list though:eek:

Got three more to do after this one... Clint, you better keep the production up!:ro)

eric: have they gave you any info on what sise it will be for cf/m or similar to, running maximum boost, extra hp and tq, what is your thoughts on labor to install, thanks fred

Fred, Not exactly sure on the specs of it, maybe Tomac can fill in the gaps there. According to ATS, its good for a solid 45-48 psi. Labor to installed would depend on if you went with studs or not. This one is pretty easy since the heads are off, but with heads on, its a bit tight, but doable. I would advise pulling the tranny if not pullin the heads. Studs can not be stressed enough here.

Eric, what studs are you installing for Jeremy and where did the come from?

Glad to see this on an engine finally. ATS definitely did a nice job with that pedestal.

Jeremy, keep that thing out of the snow! I've never seen so much rust and I've got 10 acres of steel! :D

Whats the downpipe look like. I wont be seeing one for another week.

Expect 40-50 psi depending on what tuners/programmers/boxes you are running and if you have stock or XX% over injector nozzles. The turbo will handle more boost than we can feed the motor fuel. The stock turbo has a 2.4" inducer and a 7.5" OD compressor housing and the ATS turbo has a 2.8" inducer and a 9.5" OD compressor housing and a kick a$$ 4" billet wheel.

wastegate? Those are for sissy's

You guys kill me. A certain someone has been running 60+psi on a single for a long time now. I also remember some pictures of it actually on a truck a long time ago. So I guess it is about time you start making 45psi.

Hey Sdaver,

You call him a prick, but he has always been way ahead of everyone else. Oh yeah there has always been proof as well.:ro)

the only bad thing about running compounds using with the stock turbo is the restrictive stock exhaust housing on the turbo and restrictive stock downpipe

60 psi at what backpressure, boost is easy to make if your just filling the engine up with exhaust that cant get out. Matt

You guys kill me. A certain someone has been running 60+psi on a single for a long time now. I also remember some pictures of it actually on a truck a long time ago. So I guess it is about time you start making 45psi.

Hey Sdaver,

You call him a prick, but he has always been way ahead of everyone else. Oh yeah there has always been proof as well.:ro)

why did Quad give up on getting a bigger turbo to market for the Duramax?

Drive pressures were a litle out of whack, but not near what you think. They never would say exactly, but I have seen the gauges to measure it. I know he runs a goofy amount of timing, the truck did not even really like to start when it was cold. I know the charger is much bigger than everything else people are playing with. I know that there was enough fuel that it spooled pretty good considering the charger size. On a 110 single pill and the charger the exhaust was still coal black! DId I mention fuel system mods?


Mtomac,

From what I understand some of the places that wanted it built that were going to move some of them decided it would be too expensive. I think we are seeing that now. Sure there will be a few sold, but not enough for all the money involved in starting it. I know he spent a lot of time just getting his right.
I also think that they are so busy with the electronics that they just don't really have time to do anythig else now. I know when I go by there it is hard to just talk to them unless it is an hour after they are closed. I know the DMax that they race has been sitting at the shop for months without ever being started. I hope they get some time to run it this spring. They keep threatening to sell it.


I am glad someone made a charger kit though because now these trucks will be in the 6xx range on fuel only. I will be so glad to shut most of the Cummins guys up. I think in the drag racing world the V8 still has a huge advantage once the good parts get built.

I am sure comng from ATS it will be a good kit and hopefully after it gets going they will come down in price.

Does anyone know if any bigger chargers will fit with that adapter? Is ATS going to sell just the adapter, or the adapter and other small parts?

I have to think that 10's should happen in a Dmax this year.

parts only= 4500.00
a complete bolt on kit from ATS including: studs, turbo, pedistal, downpipe, oil feed line, oil return line, coolant blockoff plug, AFE stage 2, turbo to intercooler adapter, turbo to afe pipe adapter, bolts, clamps, transmision dipstick tube

[QUOTE=carterkraft I know the charger is much bigger than everything else people are playing with. [/QUOTE]Thats because not everyone says what they are playing with. And if he still had black coals than the charger wasnt doing its job.

I think the ATS kit is pretty in line as far as price, once you guys actually see a pedestal in person you will understand the time and $$ that has went into that thing. It's pretty slick. Matt

the only bad thing about running compounds using with the stock turbo is the restrictive stock exhaust housing on the turbo and restrictive stock downpipe
The downpipe does not have to be stock sized.

Don't forget about pulling which these guys do, twins get u in the bigger class.

I'm sure we'll see dyno sheets on both in the near future.




juice did u like my post on your lb7 twin post?

a complete bolt on kit from ATS including: studs, turbo, pedistal, downpipe, oil feed line, oil return line, coolant blockoff plug, AFE stage 2, turbo to intercooler adapter, turbo to afe pipe adapter, bolts, clamps, transmision dipstick tube

How big a ATS sticker do you have to run this year? :D

Here is how it looks when I went home tonite Jeremy:ro)
I can't believe you posting naked pics of my rusty relic :D Eric, i hope you put a blanket over her, she likes to be kept warm overnight ):h thanks for the pics.................so am i coming down Wednesday late in the day or Thursday to pick her up...................i miss my truck :bawl: Oh ya, i've informed onstar to inform me if the truck is out running the streets in Grand Rapids like a raped ape :joke: :grd:


Chad- Its not the snow, its all the salt on the roads and of coarse me plowing snow with the salt driving up with the changed aerodynamics when the plow is on.......... shes a work truck first and a play truck second

How big a ATS sticker do you have to run this year? :D
No stickers, have to paint the trucks PURPLE :cool2:

I drove Clint's truck my self,very strong & 2 stroke power hit with all the other upgrades combined.:cool2:

Jeremy, coming from a snow environment with the salt I know what it's like... Mine doesn't look nearly that bad though. :eek: Maybe that's because mine is a play truck first and a play truck second (now). :D

:grd:

Mike, the twins don't run a factory downpipe.

D-Max Tim, Why would we be worried about stepping up to the bigger classes. I'd rather run the dodges heads up than have to hide in a different class.:ro)

Kyle already proved that we don't twins in the ProStreet/Superstreet class. No one is hiding in the street class. You don't just jump into the modified class against Scheid, Enterprise, Haisley without being successful in the street class and then the ProStreet/SuperStreet class first. I'm not against compounds. With an upgraded CP3 to feed big nozzles the ATS turbo would make a good mate to a bigger atmosphere charger. I'd still like to see how a true twin setup would run on the Duramax with lots of fuel.

You ditching the spray now or going to keep it for the track? Or see how you can get the charger to work first before you decide. So whats next on the agenda? Or is the plan run the biatch and see if you break anything. Whens her maiden voyage?

Jeremy, coming from a snow environment with the salt I know what it's like... Mine doesn't look nearly that bad though. :eek: Maybe that's because mine is a play truck first and a play truck second (now). :D

:grd:

Ask Eric how all the bolts and nuts are like :eek: , he touched on it while on the phone today...........i'll have to bring him some Canadian beer for the solid effort and hassle..........hows that sound Eric :ro) The trucks got 4 years plowing under its belt(150+ hours each year), so its seen it's fair share of crap weather. Too bad it just missed this last storm :mad: a nice 10 inch storm.........ask me how my legs feel like after sitting in the bobcat for 18 hours straight -:t where the truck would have taken 8 hours...........it will be all worth it when i get the truck back though.

Hey Eric, did you read the above statement :D that means no stalling and telling me the truck isn't ready, when it really is and you're flogging it all around town.............whistlin a new tune ):h, i've paid off Tomac to keep an eye on you, but not sure he's not in the passenger side either :lol:

How do you think it's going to handle the plowing now? Get that charger lit and hold on! Get a wide enough blade and you could clear the whole parking lot in one shot! ):h

looks good. i am here in WI wanting to see it....

How do you think it's going to handle the plowing now? Get that charger lit and hold on! Get a wide enough blade and you could clear the whole parking lot in one shot! ):h
Shouldn't be a problem, just hope there isn't tooooooo much lag. Can't wait to take the maiden voyage, should be a good one.................bets Eric will be changing his shorts after :muahaha: :muahaha:

Heartbeat...... That might be you changing shorts after you get the bill! :deal: :gr_grin:

Heartbeat...... That might be you changing shorts after you get the bill! :deal: :gr_grin:
Bill..........what do you mean:confused: i thought Eric was doing this out of the goodness of his heart, and paying for the turbo to gain experience for the several others on the list:help: Eric- you never said anything about paying ):h
Nah, i allready know what the bill is going to be...........now if the wife finds out :eek: then yes, new shorts will be in order :joke:

heartbeatcanada, whos dual exhaust system do you have on your rig? PS the new turbo looks impressive.

heartbeatcanada, whos dual exhaust system do you have on your rig? PS the new turbo looks impressive.

MBRP cool duals. Dual stacks coming soon for pulling :ro) I take it you stopped in and seen Eric, as your in Grand Rapids.

That sucker is schweet looking sittin in there... :cool2: hood clearance is minimal, but should fit. A little tweaking on some things like the a/c hose and the pcv crossover hose. Downpipe goes in tomarrow and get the exhaust buttoned up, a few loose ends and she will breath some fire:drop_mout , would have been done today, but had to take the kid to the Dr for appt.

I've already starting pre-selling tickets for a ride, half the money goes to MY turbo fund! :ro) The other half is for Jeremy's new shorts:eek:

is this the first one to be installed on a truck other than someone who works at ats?

I would think so Jeremy, Tomac doesnt even have his yet

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif mtowmac, Clint and I were busy Sunday and made some killer progress on the "need big fuel" problem. Could be some interesting numbers coming out of CO this year. Catch ya later. CHEVYTECH

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/cool2.gif

I'll donate a pair of shorts for Jeremy. Keep the cost down.

Can someone tell me which Turbo this is? I believe that ATS was working on three different turbo's? Which one is this? :think: :confuzeld

MBRP cool duals. Dual stacks coming soon for pulling :ro) I take it you stopped in and seen Eric, as your in Grand Rapids.
He stopped by after dark and is now the proud owner of a NEW turbo :cool2:

Going to be interesting to see this in action,keep it coming.Eric thanks for the information.

Can someone tell me which Turbo this is? I believe that ATS was working on three different turbo's? Which one is this? :think: :confuzeld
They offer i think a 2000, 3000 and a :eek: 5000, of coarse that is the 5000 in the pic, go big or stay at home :muahaha:

They offer i think a 2000, 3000 and a :eek: 5000, of coarse that is the 5000 in the pic, go big or stay at home :muahaha:

I can't wait for drive ability feedback. I'm thinking stop light driving by the time you'll just get her spooled up you will have to put your brake peddle on the carpet for the next light 100 feet away.

I await ,get a stop watch! :D

On Edit a total cost too,thinking garage bake sale! Hunny,lets vacation in Mich this year,they have nice ponds :exactly:

:lol:

http://www.getdieselpower.com/my04dodge_files/muncie-04/images/DSCN5505.jpg

Guess again! Got a little fuel and even the 5000 is right now! Housing combination is sweet.:D

:lol:

http://www.getdieselpower.com/my04dodge_files/muncie-04/images/DSCN5505.jpgI like the part number :grd: :funnypost

Mike, the twins don't run a factory downpipe.

D-Max Tim, Why would we be worried about stepping up to the bigger classes. I'd rather run the dodges heads up than have to hide in a different class.:ro)

Two of the three organizations that I pull with (TTPA, ATPA, DHRA) don't have a class for steet trucks with twins/compounds

Tell them to get with the program.:ro)

It's not so much "get with the program" as it is "chase the real pickups out of competition."

Most the Duramaxes used for competition are daily drivers/tow vehicles. Street class is normally a sportsman class who's rules are aimed at allowing the average Joe to be competitive.

Allowing single turbo swaps in the Street Classes (with limits) allows parity between the different brands, and limits the HP, hence the associated costs of fielding a competitive truck. It's not just the cost of the turbo, but the related driveline modifications required to sustain that power level.

Once they allow engines with over 600rwhp to compete in Street Class, the number of sportsman class entries will probably decline, and it will end up limited entries. Plus the more HP, the more safety equipment is necessary which will also reduce the entries.

Twins are a great way to get more HP, but allowing them into sportsman class racing would probably kill it.

Just got off the phone with Eric, and he's driving around with just the 40 over injectors(dynoed @79hp) and he says very minimal lag if any at all..........drives like a stock truck, and will bury my boost guage(35psi) with not too much effort at all. Looks like a new boost gauge is going in this weekend when i get the truck back.

Can't wait to feed it some serious fuel, to see how she lites............the tires that is :ro) as it seems it allready lites pretty easy with minimal fuel.

Cant wait to see what she rolls next week or weekend with the fuel pickup done, and a pump that will keep up to the demand :muahaha:

heartbeatcanada

yep I stopped by and Eric was in his element!

I wish I had not been exposed to your turbo as at some point Eric will be setting my new LLy up [ I am having a hard time giving up my Lb7 due to Erics work on it]. A new turbo is not in my budget. Of course I have said that before!

Once they allow engines with over 600rwhp to compete in Street Class, the number of sportsman class entries will probably decline, and it will end up limited entries. Plus the more HP, the more safety equipment is necessary which will also reduce the entries.
It already takes 600 hp to compete in the street class, at a big pull. Matt

Well, has the truck hit the streets? ....... got any times.......anything?

Well, has the truck hit the streets? ....... got any times.......anything?

Eric is the only one that has driven it. I pick it up Friday, and the first thing that will be installed is a heavily over fueled far from stock pcm :ro) to see how she rips. The one thing i did forget to ask Eric is, how much louder it is :cool:

Noticable turbo whine

Zero lag with the 40% injectors. Runs very strong stock and will bury a 35 lb boost gauge with no program.

Jeremy truck is running out of fuel with just the 125 Edge on, That really lites a fire ( I happen to have one handy) and I would bet a comp box would freak people out. But first, gotta feed that sucker some more fuel. I had to take the pin out of the gauge so it could spin around again ( instead of bouncing off the high side) to measure the boost, no go with that wimpy 35lb gauge though. Driving it is almost scary, it sneaks up on you and BOOM! Mega Boost, well, then blah as it runs out of fuel....LOL

Install is not for the faint at heart. I had a solid 25 hours into this project with new studs, turbo, some fabing, and new headgaskets. Trans dipstick tube supplied with kit is not a drop in piece, required some heat and a vise and a gentle touch with a rubber hammer to make it fit in place. Everything on the top of the engine is tighter, some things route a bit different but its all in and the hood closes. Kit includes a new AFE Stage II intake kit so that is nice.

More testing to be done tomarrow...stay tuned!

I've got a new 60psi gauge, spare carter liftpump, Quad 215 tuner & 150 Edge juice available for further testing. :eek:

...........Mike, your scareing people. :grd:

woohoo, jeremy, we want numbers, we want numbers, make us proud

Mike,

Interesting to note the inducer size of the new charger. When I was working on possible rule changes re: charger size for street class pulling out west, I got a number of people wanting to fight me on the idea of bumping inducer limits to 2.8". I constantly told people that a 2.5" limit in the street class would be prohibitive to upgraded dmax chargers. Being that I knew the stockers were in the 2.5 range, I knew it was necessary to up the limit to the 2.8 range to leave room for d max charger upgrades. I was all over the boards trying to get confirmation on what size the inducers would be on the new d max chargers in the works, nobody wanted to talk as there was some competition between brands. I knew the answer but needed confirmation to prove my point. Behold ATS' new charger. Coincidence that this thing has exactly a 2.8" inducer?. . . I think not. You guys have a nice piece on your hands, should make the street class in DHRA very interesting this year. If the pull organizers out west don't open up to some new rule ideas, there won't be any ATS chargers in the street class out here. Anyone listening?:grd:

Craig

If the pull organizers out west don't open up to some new rule ideas, there won't be any ATS chargers in the street class out here.

Craig
There won't even be a pull, when Kaliforia slides off into the ocean :muahaha:

Anyone have ocean front property forsale in Nevada?

Noticable turbo whine

<snip>


More testing to be done tomarrow...stay tuned!



Oh I think that's a gimmie!

I've got a new 60psi gauge, spare carter liftpump, Quad 215 tuner & 150 Edge juice available for further testing. :eek:
Mike- what are you doing tomorrow around noon time????

Mike- what are you doing tomorrow around noon time????
Helping Eric unload your truck off the rollback after todays playing went BAD :eek:

OR bailing Eric out of JAIL :eek:




:nopics:

Lets see pics of what was left of Jeremy's tires :ro)

Is the ATS turbo available for the LLY yet? If so do you think a guy can get enough fuel to it with programmers, injecters,ect. to make it worth while. Want to be competitive this pulling season!!!!

Please tell me it will not fit an EGR truck so I can relax...

Is the ATS turbo available for the LLY yet? If so do you think a guy can get enough fuel to it with programmers, injecters,ect. to make it worth while. Want to be competitive this pulling season!!!!I don't think the turbo is out yet for us.
Brandon had a juice (special) go 440rwhp on his new LLY add on a set of 40% or more injectors, should be plenty of fuel.

Maybe we'll see an extreme yet this spring for our LLY, the programs are in testing now.

Please tell me it will not fit an EGR truck so I can relax...From what I hear it does the best on egr trucks :joke:

Please tell me it will not fit an EGR truck so I can relax...
Not to worry Max.

DTT's twins will fit on your truck without problem.






Now you can relax Eh?:ro)

the biggest thing holding up the ATS turbo on the LLY trucks is making the PCM happy when it doen't have a turbo to control

Well, has the truck hit the streets? ....... got any times.......anything?

yea we got it running 10's in the 1/4 mile


:joke:

Sure would be nice to see it on Kennedy's Dyno this week, a good dyno and a good operator. ............I wonder if John does "almost free tests" on new products? :D Jeremy...........Mike............?

the biggest thing holding up the ATS turbo on the LLY trucks is making the PCM happy when it doen't have a turbo to control

I'm just rambling...

They shouldn't try to make the PCM happy. Best tack to take would be using a large VVT instead of a static turbo. It would act like a little turbo for daily driving and a big turbo when it was time to show some muscle.

The best trick would be to also offer the same VVT on the LB7 using a custom tune though a harness box (VA?), using one of the unused pins to control the vanes. This would allow easy programming of the max boost level without relying on a separate wastegate controller.

Hey Laddie............ Pool is a wee-bit deep on you're end eh? I like your think'n but why mess with the 'easy' LB7 turbo upgrade.

No body is going to go through that much work although I agree that would be the best.......

are you implying that our dynos north of the border ar not that great):h , if i know jeremy, he will find a great dyno, and operator, and offer to show results without question, we just have to wait-:t




Sure would be nice to see it on Kennedy's Dyno this week, a good dyno and a good operator. ............I wonder if John does "almost free tests" on new products? :D Jeremy...........Mike............?

You don't have to have a EGR truck for ever. That EGR stuff just bolts on/off. It sure does make fitting all that stuff easier if it is missing though.

John is a solid 8 hour drive from me, but I think Mike found a dyno about 2 hours away to hit for some baseline testing before his goes on.

Hey Cole, burn a PCM for those LLY guys that dont need no stinking VVT. Your the only one I can think of that could do it!

I would prefer steve to get a BIG VVT for the LB7 guys and cook a tune for that. But that would be lotsa $$$ and he probably couldnt sell enough of em to make it cost effective for him.

25 hours into the install with you behind the wrench Eric?? Throw the idea of doing it myself out the window, 25hrs of your time = 50+ hrs for the short bus riders like me.:badidea: ):h

No body is going to go through that much work although I agree that would be the best.......

Banks will be selling a VVT setup for the Cummins in the near future. I wouldn't be at all surprised if VVT's end up on LB7's at some point in the distant future.

VVT > fixed vane. ;)

Banks will be selling a VVT setup for the Cummins in the near future. I wouldn't be at all surprised if VVT's end up on LB7's at some point in the distant future.

VVT > fixed vane. ;)


I posted on that yesterday here.. (http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=498450#post498450)

you guys got me skeered ...... i can see 2 more cylinders making a 1/4 in a sec less time.

:ro)

poor gassers ought to be skeered ....we'll be running NHRA in the next few years

Since ST will have about a months worth of leave after his deployment, cash saved, might I inquire as to what intall is costing? You know it's bad when I'm drooling after something too. ;)

I thought that you weren't aloud to run anything other than a stock charger in the stock class and that twins and big singles were in the same class(modified)?

Very few "Street" Classes specify stock turbo. Most set an inducer limit or they say single charger. Usually if there is an inducer limit it is 2.8"...guess what the ATS charger is.):h :D

Jeremy picked up his truck, decided if one is that good, two must be better...

Plans are under way for twins:eek: :stirthepo

Jeremy is a *** http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/wtf.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/wtf.gifDude, when Jeremy gets home and see's that, he is gonna rub himself

Oh my gosh...........some of the things.:sheephump



............. Eric, you must be tired. I looks like you're as busy as a one legged man in an arse kick'n contest.):h

I think Eric just found out that once someone quotes you.....what you said can't be changed!!! :shootself

Whooops! :eek:

Tom :pig:

I think Eric just found out that once someone quotes you.....what you said can't be changed!!! :shootself

Whooops! :eek:

Tom :pig:Jeremy and I had the biggest laugh, I clicked it and then we had a laugh a bit,then I edited it and boy, he caught me fast!

Thats ok, Its all in good fun, we were high on diesel fumes anyways.

Jeremy told me they got the rubber glove treatment coming across the boarder to pick it up, expecting it on the way back too, all they kept saying was, "damn this thing rips", and "I cant believe they dont take Canadian money in MI"...

What do you expect? A Big Mac is about $400 CDN. :D

I'm guessing ATS doesn't like me anymore. I never heard from Clint on the release of his new turbo kit. :(

I'm guessing ATS doesn't like me anymore. I never heard from Clint on the release of his new turbo kit. :(
Verrry Interesting.
I worry when Guy talks like this.:eek: :cool_shad

Hey Guy, the Turbo kit is soon to be readily avail....

You wont want the pre-kits....

Just feeling like Clint forgot about me. :(

I've done my part to educate people about ATS.

Hell, I remember when it was MTomac and I representing ATS against the "Diesel Place" world. "Lock it and Rock it!" :ro)


Back when Mac and the Suncoast faithful were scared of electronic devices (CoPilot) controlling their transmission. :eek:

Oh well, nothing a boy and his CAD/CAM system can't solve, I guess. :D

Let's see......."create point", "keyboard", "X0.0" "Y0.0" "Z0.0"

:lol:

Eric, funny the border doesn't care what currency you give them:p: , as long as you bend over and accept the rubber glove:eek: . Actually crossing back tonight was a breeze, and Derek actually gave the border guard a cigar :cool: too bad he'll be -:t as they smell like dog chit -:t

I'll be spending more time in Michigan giving out driving lessons as well......about 30+ cars in the ditch and 50+ other tracks going into the ditch..........once we crossed the border which is about half way, we only seen one car in the ditch and it was worse as we got closer to home..........didn't stop us from bursts up to 100mph and a constant 80mph speed :ro)

Now that i just got home, its time to put the plow on, load up the back with salt and go make money to pay for this awesome creation.........will have to have play time tomorrow if weather permits.

All i have to say is :thankyou2 ATS and Eric. Will post more tomorrow after another plow session tonight :(

Cool. Keep the info coming!

Congrats on the new toy! Keep the reports coming.

Just feeling like Clint forgot about me. :(

I've done my part to educate people about ATS.

Hell, I remember when it was MTomac and I representing ATS against the "Diesel Place" world. "Lock it and Rock it!" :ro)


Back when Mac and the Suncoast faithful were scared of electronic devices (CoPilot) controlling their transmission. :eek:

Oh well, nothing a boy and his CAD/CAM system can't solve, I guess. :D

Let's see......."create point", "keyboard", "X0.0" "Y0.0" "Z0.0"

:lol:
i am being raised on a thing called pro engineer ... in that case it would be click extrude click place ya want it ... set values :)

Guy, I'm buying a Faro digitizing arm (portable).

Let me know if you need some "starting points". ;)

"Pro E" makes my Surfcam and SolidWorks look like toys!

:cool2:

yeah Jeremy let us know how it goes. honest opinions please!

Just feeling like Clint forgot about me. :(

I've done my part to educate people about ATS.

Hell, I remember when it was MTomac and I representing ATS against the "Diesel Place" world. "Lock it and Rock it!" :ro)


Back when Mac and the Suncoast faithful were scared of electronic devices (CoPilot) controlling their transmission. :eek:

Oh well, nothing a boy and his CAD/CAM system can't solve, I guess. :D

Let's see......."create point", "keyboard", "X0.0" "Y0.0" "Z0.0"

:lol:

Apparently you aren't kissing the right ..... :Moon:
Got Juice's lips are sore,and DTT has a shiney spot right :Moon: ...there.


Aint that a .... :nutkick:


I think Jeremy will give us no hype just the straight scoop,ATS made a good choice. Expect a call ;)

Jeremy told me they got the rubber glove treatment coming across the boarder to pick it up, expecting it on the way back too, all they kept saying was, "damn this thing rips", and "I cant believe they dont take Canadian money in MI"...


montana has places like that to, blows me away, border state and thats the welcome, up here it is not fesable for american money as well, but after a few clicks on the caulator all is done, all to their own i guess

Just feeling like Clint forgot about me. :(

I've done my part to educate people about ATS.

Hell, I remember when it was MTomac and I representing ATS against the "Diesel Place" world. "Lock it and Rock it!" :ro)


Back when Mac and the Suncoast faithful were scared of electronic devices (CoPilot) controlling their transmission. :eek:

Oh well, nothing a boy and his CAD/CAM system can't solve, I guess. :D

Let's see......."create point", "keyboard", "X0.0" "Y0.0" "Z0.0"

:lol:

COULD BE BECAUSE THERE IS MORE TTS STUFF IN YOUR SIG THAN ATS):h

EXPRESSED IN TRUE PEANUT FONT

"Pro E" makes my Surfcam and SolidWorks look like toys!

:cool2:
is that a good thing?:ro)

):h ):h




COULD BE BECAUSE THERE IS MORE TTS STUFF IN YOUR SIG THAN ATS):h

EXPRESSED IN TRUE PEANUT FONT

can some on make a smilie sayin " This Thread Is Worthless Without Dyno Sheets"? :lol: :joke: but i would like to see some):h

I dont know what you got as far as gauges laying around Jeremy, but it would be cool if you had a way to get some drive pressure #'s vs boost on the turbo. Just use a couple feet of copper tubing and then you can convert to regular boost line or just run copper line the whole way but it kind of carries the sound into the cab. Matt

Matt, that sucker has plenty of sound in the cabin already, you wont ignore that whistle!

Jeremy will get a dyno sheet up. He won't leave people hanging..... Him and Grasshopper have had enough of BS hype, themselves.

Matt, that sucker has plenty of sound in the cabin already, you wont ignore that whistle!
You got that right, she's got a definite whistle to her, but not obnoxious............just right:thumb: .

Working the truck plowing snow this morning was no different than any other time, wouldn't even know it was a bigger turbo if i didn't know it was there :ro)

I installed a 60 pis boost gauge today, and went out for a scoot with the 145 edge to see what she would do. Got the gauge up to 49 psi and had to get out of the throttle for traffic :mad: . It seems to climb to 40psi quick, then slow down a bit to a constant sweep up to the 50 range. I'm guessing it would have went to maybe 52 as it was still going up, but not too fast.

Engine is way out of fuel with just the edge145 and 40% injectors and cleans the smoke up within a snap of the fingers, once it lites :ro)which is pretty quick. Can basically feel it kind of lay over a bit as its out of fuel.............as well as my supply is not the best right now. The holley blue is dying a slow miserable death, and i should have new pumps here Monday or Tuesday and will be doing the in tank fuel mod at the same time. I want to get the fuel system up to par before i make a fair evaluation.

I'll be honest, i had a brief feeling like someone kicked me in the groin :nutkick: when i got back to the shop after a short run with a pcm.......truck was running real rough and had loud injector rattle, and Derek seen coolant coming from the overflow -:t Upper rad hose was rock solid, the same as when i took it to Eric with headgasket issue:( Released pressure and lost a bunch of coolant and sat and evaluated the situation. After about half hour of chatting with the boys, i heard a pop noise from one of the thermostats.:think: I had 2 replacement t-stats in the back seat(along with a self contand parts store- old turbo, filters, oil, you name it i got it in the back seat) and figured lets change them in hopes one of the t-stats is hosed. Replaced them and filled up coolant, and took it out for another run with original pcm in, just to make sure. Truck ran strong and no problems, no pressure build up and still have non since we swapped them out :cool2:

Got home and put in another pcm and stacked it with the edge :muahaha: Very very strong, can't tell how fast the turbo cleans it up as its dark, but had time to do 5, 10lb boost launches ...............Derek just left in search for clean underwear, and in need of a chiropracter(sp). Truck pulled out of the hole like a freight train................just like when i had the nos flowing, sotp meter says its in the 600+hp no problem, just need some roads with no snow on them to run it up past 100mph and see how it feels on the top end.........definetely very strong on the bottom and mid. It just keeps pulling and won't let you pull away from being one with the seat, until the fuel supply lags and hiccups :mad: Never had a chance to glance at the boost or egts too much(narrow country roads with snow cover in the dark), but did see about 45lbs with that stack. A bit lower than with just the edge, but i'm also starving the injectors down to 9000psi.

As of right now, my hat goes off to ATS with there hard work on making us a turbo. I'll let Eric comment on the install, if he has anything to add, but it looks like a chore for someone that has some serious mechanical skills and has time to have there truck down for a while. Also a great thanks to Eric, for working on my rusty relic:D and working through some snags that my truck seems to produce all the time(possessed). If anyone wants quality work and the job done right, Eric is definetly the man to :grd: even though he called me a *** ):h

I will post some pics of under the hood, hopefully tomorrow, as the pics Eric posted do not do this thing justice............its massive whe you see it right in front of you.................can't really tell there's a motor under that sucka.

If all goes well i will hit the dyno one day this week(though we've got 3 days of snow coming) or next weekend and see what she'll roll. I'm pretty sure i won't be dissappointed. I think the cummins has some major competition heading there way this year :boxing:

Jeremy, you scared me with the pressureized thing... I was nervous until I read on down.. Whew!

Shoulda told me about those, I woulda put them in, but o well.

Hopefully you can get the last 'quirk' out of that thing, I will be inspecting future parts very carefully to avoid a repeat. We look forward to reports on how this thing does once your fuel system keeps up. The best part is that while this upgrade is intended for the hard core group, your use of the truck proves it will work equally as good for the everyday use as well, ie, plowing snow. I think its worth the wait for the finished product overall. I will put a post togather detailing the overall job including all the highs and low's.

Jeremy, however, will be responsible for keeping us on the edge of our seats!

so i hear the fuel pickup is a must when in the 500 and want to go up

Take it easy on the truck, Jeremy. Other wise it might not be able to keep up to the snow storm, they're calling for. :eek:

Take it easy on the truck, Jeremy. Other wise it might not be able to keep up to the snow storm, they're calling for. :eek:
Ya, quite the storm on the way.......my prediction will be about a foot with lake effect :ro) more $$$$ to pay for that hair dryer.

Didn't fool around with the truck much today as the family was in the truck, and i was more into tobogganing with friends and family..........Derek was trying to perfect the super man with the gt snow racer............and i was trying to perfect the heel clicker with the gt...............nice long steep hill with a decent jump :ro)

Wifey thinks this truck is just insane now when going out to pass a car on the highway :cool2: , but she does notice that it doesn;t have what it used to off the line, but once she lites, very different story

Hmmmm. New project for the GT?

Wifey thinks this truck is just insane now when going out to pass a car on the highway

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