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: WVO vs Fresh?????


NewtoDiesels
05-28-2008, 04:21 PM
I asume (WVO) is waisted Vegetable oil? Why not just order 55 gallon drums from restraunt distributors such as (SYSCO) delivered to your house? Even if it was more expensive, wouldn't it be cleaner & less hassle?

Also, can a LMM with the DPF run Bio?

ap_coach
05-28-2008, 04:32 PM
the main point of running bio is that it is cheap but takes a little work. It is possible to get the WVO from restraunts for free if you do some leg work.

habanero
05-28-2008, 05:11 PM
Buying virgin oil is going to cost close to double the amount of diesel-unless you start talking tank car quantities. But unless you happen to have a rail spur going by your house, buying it by the tank car is probably out of the question...

JeffMD
05-29-2008, 11:37 AM
If you are talking about converting it to Biodiesel you would still have to go through the same process. The only differences would be how much KOH you use and your glycerine output. If you are talking about using straight veggie oil in a modified vehicle, I guess you could reduce your filtering steps since you wont have to get out the onion rings and stuff.

NewtoDiesels
05-29-2008, 11:47 AM
Isn't raw cooking oil about $1.50/gallon? I just thought if a person could buy multiple drums, & have them delivered for a small fee-- go through the process of converting it to bio-diesel, even if it cost $2-3 dollars a gallon it would be worth the savings.

habanero
05-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Isn't raw cooking oil about $1.50/gallon? I just thought if a person could buy multiple drums, & have them delivered for a small fee-- go through the process of converting it to bio-diesel, even if it cost $2-3 dollars a gallon it would be worth the savings.

The last time I priced virgin oil it was about $7 a gallon in the 35 pound, ~4.5 gallon cube containers. A couple years ago on a whim a buddy and I priced buying tanker truck quantities of oil and it was around $2.60-$2.75 per gallon then (diesel was around $2.50 at the time). That was also something like 3000 gallons at a time-and what exactly do you do with 3000 gallons of oil? The only way to get it much cheaper than what diesel is now is to contract to buy 10's of thousands of gallons a year like the biodiesel plants are.

If you're talking drum quantities, you're looking at probably at least $6 per gallon now. Add almost a dollar per gallon on to that for biodiesel conversion (methanol has dramitcally went up in price lately), and the cost of the equipment, you're pretty quickly beyond reasonable.