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DETROIT - General Motors is dropping Delphi Corp.'s Quadrasteer system after the four-wheel-steer gear never really turned the corner with increased profitability.

Ward's Automotive Reports said GM will drop Quadrasteer by the end of the 2005 model year, and it will not be on the next-generation sport-utility vehicle and pickup truck architecture, the GMT900.

In 2004, GM sold about 5,500 vehicles equipped with Quadrasteer, Ward's said, most of them on GMC Sierra half-ton pickups. The technology allowed a full-size truck to turn like a compact car.

Ward's said GM initially priced the option too high - around $7,000 - a price that has plunged to just under $2,000. End quote




Too bad, this was a cool technology.

Kelly

If they stick with that decision, good bye GM, and hello Toyota. Great technology and poor presentation to the public with bad advertising campaign. Silly commercials with lack of practical function is always a bad decision.

Could you get Quadrasteer on a D/A?

the problem was you wouldn't get it on all of the truck. i wanted it on my duramax. it they had it so you were able to get it on more vehicles they would of sold more.

I agree, should have been able to get it on the dmax, I would have payed for the option! I'm not positive, but think the only HD you could get it on was the 6.0...

bummer..

When I purchased my 2003 Denali XL I opted to not get the quadrasteer due to being extra stuff to go wrong and extra money to pay out to get it aligned if needed.
I am very happy with the agility I have without it. I think it does not add that much turning ability over stock function when turing forward or backing up. In actuality I think it gives more problems when backing up since the trailer you are attached to does not turn any better with it.
I see the whole thing as just a gimmick.
I did here that it was going to to be if not already available on 3/4 ton trucks.

http://www.mlive.com/business/fljournal/index.ssf?/base/business-0/110848452033850.xml

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DETROIT - General Motors is dropping Delphi Corp.'s Quadrasteer system after the four-wheel-steer gear never really turned the corner with increased profitability.

Ward's Automotive Reports said GM will drop Quadrasteer by the end of the 2005 model year, and it will not be on the next-generation sport-utility vehicle and pickup truck architecture, the GMT900.

In 2004, GM sold about 5,500 vehicles equipped with Quadrasteer, Ward's said, most of them on GMC Sierra half-ton pickups. The technology allowed a full-size truck to turn like a compact car.

Ward's said GM initially priced the option too high - around $7,000 - a price that has plunged to just under $2,000. End quote

Too bad, this was a cool technology.

Kelly
...around on a 4 lane hwy! Quadra steer would have been awesome for my truck!

AK...... I have a CC 4x4 Duramax and B-law has the same body, only it's the 4-wheel steer thing. The Quadra turns much tigher...much much tigher. it does help when you back up. You would think that the trailer would *pinch* even worse... but it actually helps move the trailer. There are three modes... Normal (2 wheel steer), 4-wheel steer and "trailer" steering. It is really a nice set-up. However.......the chunk will not support the TQ of the 8.1 nor the Iszuzu, that's why they do not offer it.

......... just thinking. I think those Delphi shocks might be nice for our trucks!

If GM was smart the would have offered them on the longer wheel base trucks. I would love to have that on my Duramax. I am sure many duramax owners would have paid an extra 2k to have all the toys and tighter turning radius.

GM really screwed this one up. It was initally way too pricey and wasn't offered on enough vehicles. I wanted it on my 05 2500HD but it was not available.

GM marketed and priced this option right out of existence. It nobody's fault but their. Delphi made a good product.

My 2 cents.

DEWFPO

Bad decision on GMs part. I was really wanting to buy a Quadra Steer Suburban or Yukon XL why they redesigned them for '06. From what I read Delphi wasn't happy w/ GMs marketing campaign and everything went sour from there. Looks like Nissan is next in line.

we has a ton of those things around here, they made great demo's for the mgmt, but didnt sell for chit. Fancy feature with a low failure problem. At least we didnt see much. The axle was not heavy enough to offer behind the HD truck so you didnt we didnt see it in the diesel world. Its really no shocker they dropped it seeing it from side in the dealer/watching no sales and they just sit on the lot. A pickup that is only a 1/2 ton with a 47k sticker.. thats a loaded Dmax!

I could always visualize some sort of failure that would leave the rear wheels in the turn mode on the interstate at 70 mph. Was not an option that interested me.

I've seen some of the upper management get them to drive, one guy took 5 tries to back in a parking space (turned toooo sharp and wasn't used to it).
Luckily he didn't hit anything.

Oh thank God!!! I was working a GMC dealer when that came out and I forsaw the future imediately. Everyone that has uses a 4 wheel steering has abandoned it shortly after, they are a mother to align, kill tires and are a technisions nightmare waiting to happen!

Oh thank God!!! I was working a GMC dealer when that came out and I forsaw the future imediately. Everyone that has uses a 4 wheel steering has abandoned it shortly after, they are a mother to align, kill tires and are a technisions nightmare waiting to happen!
Someone gave you some horrifically incorrect information. Don't listen to them on any investment info.

If you talk to owners, you will find almost zero problems. And, any problems have been minor, i.e. loose electrical connection fixed by plugging the connections properly. No one has sold their trucks, and in fact are looking to Nissan or any other maker for the system. It has performed as designed by Delphi. No problems with tire wear at all. No alignment problems, either. I've had mine since Oct 2002 and no problems, just great manuverabliity thru curves, trailering, and lane changes. GM is not under great leadership. They still and in denial with cold start knock problems.

Best to talk to those who actually own the system, rather than by those with no experience. http://quadrasteerclub.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x

I have been out of the GM loop for a while so I don't know how quadrasteer has fared compared to some of the other 4wheel steering systems previously put out. I just based my original thoughts on the history of it, and if was not a very good history. It may very well be a good system, but judging from the reception such systems got in the past I did not expect it too last. As far as the piston slap, that is just typical of GM, they rarely step up on issues like that, I am a die hard fan of the General but am very dissapointed at how they address issues internaly. That is where I give Ford credit, they may have some big problems, but generaly they step up fast and take care of it.

The scare of having the rear wheels get stuck is next to impossible. There is a huge spring that will return the wheels to strait.

I have been out of the GM loop for a while so I don't know how quadrasteer has fared compared to some of the other 4wheel steering systems previously put out. I just based my original thoughts on the history of it, and if was not a very good history. It may very well be a good system, but judging from the reception such systems got in the past I did not expect it too last. As far as the piston slap, that is just typical of GM, they rarely step up on issues like that, I am a die hard fan of the General but am very dissapointed at how they address issues internaly. That is where I give Ford credit, they may have some big problems, but generaly they step up fast and take care of it.
Who let you buy a duramax and even better, who the hell let you in this forum?
Maybe you better get Doug to teach your the theory of batteries again.:D Are you still wearing a Jesus saves belt buckle?

Who let you buy a duramax and even better, who the hell let you in this forum?
Maybe you better get Doug to teach your the theory of batteries again.:D Are you still wearing a Jesus saves belt buckle?
Who diss????? And where in Baltimore are you, my shop is in Dumbdalk. Like I said, I usualy defend the general with a vengiance and will own nothing else, but they have had piston slap problems since the 3.1 litre engines in the early 90's, you would think they would have come around by now.

I know where you shop is, I was there...Once for thursday night hang out.

Nope still drawing a blank, I remember Doug, He worked here briefly and just never could get the hang of being a mechanic and kept no showing on my ass!

doug massey or however you spell his name worked for you?
Maybe you need Rye or Christina working for you. Might be able to get Fox to come over and drive over your median? You work on jacked up primer grey novas? Tie Flywheels to the rear axle of a Caprice?

Ok, just figured it out, is this Tyler??? Actualy I was gonna hire Dyell.):h :cool: :p:

LOL...Yea. I bet you would hire her. She ever leave/comeback from California with no hair?...lol

Actualy yes she did, she did not come back the same person though, became a little self absorbed, big turn off. She has hair again though.

Just more to break IMHO. Who REALLY wants a full size tuck to turn like a compact???? Not Me.... If you can't handle it, don't drive it.

Maybe Dodge should talk to delphi about putting this on the "Mega Cab". I bet that thing would be lucky to make an 8 point U-turn.....):h

Truth be told, the real benefits of this were for towing. Of course most serious towers requre diesel or big block, which couldn't have this option. Put a smaller diesel in a half or three-quarter ton truck with this option and I bet it would sell well.

Kelly

Sorry to hear it!!! My wife drives a yukon XL with quadrasteer, 0 problems and we absolutely love it. I was planning on quadrasteer on my next truck. The best $2000 option ever. HUGE MISTAKE! Drive it once and you WILL own it. I dont know who said it but they nailed it when they said GM did a poor job of advertisement. The dealers definetly did not help sales, most salesman tried to tell me it was not worth it. Especially when they did not have one in stock. Fast food drive thrus, parking lots, U-turns, these are the every day benefits. GM missed it they should have had Bonnevilles, Taurus, Cads and Lincolns doing three point turns and scrubbing tires thru a burger king drive thru followed by a Suburban quadrasteer making it all look as easy as it is with the quadrasteer.
The trailer benefit is all they advertised...big benefit...but most people dont have trailer behind there trucks as often as the try and pull out of a crowded parking spot.
Commercial land sells for a million dollars an acre around here and parking lots are built for VW's and Civics. I miss the good old midwest. The good thing about northern Virginia is you can pick up an old used car with 200,000 miles on it and the turn signals will be brand new "NEVER BEEN USED". ):h

I would love the quadrasteer in a plow truck. GM made the mistake of not making it availabel in the whole line as usuall. The longer the wheelbase the greater the benifit of the system. I hope they keep it.

anyone ever imagined this: a dually quadrasteer? don't think they would've made that one!

I agree, GM killed it when they brought it out! F Censored ng IDIOTS!!!!! :badidea: They should have priced it at $500 bucks and sold everyone they made. Lets face it, it's a typical front axle with springs and hydraulics, some wire and some programming and a switch. They put a fancy bed on it with some little lights which was unnecessary. Just some fender flares would have done just fine. It seems the more political an accessory or vehicle is the more they destroy it! That is what happens when the bean counters have their say.

They put a fancy bed on it with some little lights which was unnecessary. Just some fender flares would have done just fine.
Amen. The rear fenders on those trucks look weird. Trying to look like a dually, but not wide enough. Weird. Love how tight they turn though. Watched a guy this morning pull into a parking spot in one try that would've taken me 3 points to get into.

I agree, GM killed it when they brought it out! F Censored ng IDIOTS!!!!! :badidea: They should have priced it at $500 bucks and sold everyone they made. Lets face it, it's a typical front axle with springs and hydraulics, some wire and some programming and a switch. They put a fancy bed on it with some little lights which was unnecessary. Just some fender flares would have done just fine. It seems the more political an accessory or vehicle is the more they destroy it! That is what happens when the bean counters have their say.

I agree it should have been cheaper......it is now about where it should have been. However, it's still a little high, sorta. However, the fenders and the lights..... well, that's kinda manditory on anything produced that wide today. I think the steering added 6" of width to the axel.

I agree it should have been cheaper......it is now about where it should have been. However, it's still a little high, sorta. However, the fenders and the lights..... well, that's kinda manditory on anything produced that wide today. I think the steering added 6" of width to the axel.Delphi was ready to release a shortened axle tube Quadrasteer that would have worked with the standard "Flareside" bed. Now, thats not gonna happen. The current axle comes with an 80" width. 80-inches is the cut-off length for marker lights. Combine that with the in-the-works duramax/8.1L capable rearend, and it would have been a sales winner.

-P.

Prophet.......................:exactly:

my dad got an 02 duramax allison and he said even if the option was 7k he would have bought it cause the crew cab long bed doesn't turn real sharp and mom hates driving it for that reason. dad and i have no problem and CAN handle a real truck but the uses for that option could be used for is awesome. that is the main reason ppl don't get the long versions is because they get too long to turn ....not because they can't use the added space.

i am hoping like heck that they keep it and i did like the fenders and the lights for the look cool i think and give more of a dually stability in a single rear wheel application!!!