: Hey Edge How Much longer for a Cure?
Turbo6600 02-15-2005, 09:42 PM I know edge employee's check in on this forum so here is my question Myself and 3 other buddies bought J/A for our 05 LLY's we all have same symptoms hiccup's pop corn popper what ever the He** you want to call itCensored . So we all have superchips to hold us over but we are tired of waiting any help would be better than none :rolleyes: And yes we have all tried new boxes! Turbo6600
kbstinky 02-15-2005, 11:10 PM Is it like "fish bite" if you are a fisherman????
If so, that problem goes all the way back to version 1.0
sdaver 02-15-2005, 11:30 PM rumour is it soon to be updated
DMAXYUKON 02-16-2005, 02:54 AM Ya, whats up Edge?? Let's get at it!
Kennedy 02-16-2005, 10:23 AM Version 1.1 is available for the LLY SOON.
Programming AND hardware upgrade required. More details as they become available. I should be doing mine today!
RickDLance 02-16-2005, 10:24 AM JK, you have all the fun!
JJs DuMax 02-16-2005, 10:36 AM Version 1.1 is available for the LLY SOON.
Programming AND hardware upgrade required. More details as they become available. I should be doing mine today!
JK, any idea how Edge is going to handle this? My E/J was manufactured in December 04. Thanks. JJ :)
XR-Freak 02-16-2005, 12:33 PM Turbo 6600,
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU....... For getting this started again. All we can do is keep bugging them. I'm past the squeeky wheel. I'm more like the bolt action on my rifle needs oil. -:t Those guys are not going to get away with my money that easily. I have dreams about meeting them in a dark ally, and unfortunately after that intimate encounter we never find a cure for the hick-up/fish hook, we all buy hypertechs and everyone lives happily ever after.
It's getting close to a year and still no solutions.:grd:
Kennedy 02-16-2005, 03:27 PM I have the ability to apply the programming in house, but no word on the hardware alteration yet.
Kennedy 02-16-2005, 08:34 PM Might be Monday now...
DMAXYUKON 02-16-2005, 08:38 PM Reply from Edge on a email I sent to find out what was going on.
"The engineers are very close to having a update for this product that should help.
Thanks
Cody Chatelain"
Edge Products
JJs DuMax 02-17-2005, 08:43 AM Excuse my ignorance. :o: When you say "hardware" fix does this mean we have to send our E/J back to them for repair and wait? OR Will they send us a new one and include a box and shipping label to return our current units? :confused:
I still have the original box the E/J came in. JJ :)
Kennedy 02-17-2005, 10:46 AM Let's just sit back and wait till they are ready. If they get buried in queries, it gets us nowhere.
Now from the sounds of it you will be sending the unit in for modification. I should be doing mine/my customers units in house.
NOTHING is finalized at this point.
neverenuf 02-17-2005, 11:17 AM :rant: Man this is sure funny. How about all you Banks bashers now??? Where you at? What about all that talk about buy the Edge, customer service is #1. Sorry to all that are having trouble, I know it sucks.:nutkick:
DSTRBD 02-17-2005, 11:41 AM The Edge boxes have a few little quirks, not that big of a deal. These things happen. What about all the Banks LLY boxes? Seems they are having alot more problems to me.
dpower 02-17-2005, 11:42 AM Still wouldn't trade my edge for a banks....no way no how.
Max Power 02-17-2005, 12:01 PM My edge has been working really good. No complaints at all. No way would I trade for banks either.
I KNOW that edge will look after us. There is no questions about that and there never was. It takes time to sort things like this out. In the end all edge customers will be happy.
neverenuf 02-17-2005, 12:27 PM In the end everyones happy with the Edge?? When's that?
Turbo 6600,
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU....... For getting this started again. All we can do is keep bugging them. I'm past the squeeky wheel. I'm more like the bolt action on my rifle needs oil. -:t Those guys are not going to get away with my money that easily. I have dreams about meeting them in a dark ally, and unfortunately after that intimate encounter we never find a cure for the hick-up/fish hook, we all buy hypertechs and everyone lives happily ever after.
It's getting close to a year and still no solutions.:grd:
Max Power 02-17-2005, 12:45 PM I guess you never read the rest of the thread? Edge is doing hardware and software updates to correct the problems. SO after that is done everyone should be happy. If that doesn't solve all the problems I guarantee edge will not quit until everyone is happy. Anyone who has dealt with edge in the past knows this.
Dmax Tim 02-17-2005, 12:50 PM Might be Monday now...
John, your starting to sound like a twin thread :muahaha: :muahaha:
neverenuf 02-17-2005, 12:52 PM MP
Yep read it from the beginning, I can even pronounce most of the words. Sounds like they’re really in a hurry.
"It's getting close to a year and still no solutions."
Max Power 02-17-2005, 01:06 PM Enjoy your banks. I'll enjoy my edge/attitude.
neverenuf 02-17-2005, 01:11 PM Absolutely.:beerchug:
XR-Freak 02-17-2005, 01:27 PM I have sent my unit back 3 times. I have taken a friends E/A out of his LLY that runs perfect and placed it in mine. Mine still has the hickup. I took my E/A and put it in his truck and everything was Great it ran perfect he has a chevy I have a GMC. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW EDGE IS GOING TO FIX THAT PROBLEM. It seems to me that there is something up with my/our trucks, not the edge. Some trucks do it, some don't. If you guys remember i started a thread several months ago "LLY and The Edge" I got lots of views and lots of posts, but zip, zero, no, solutions. First it was oh the edge amplifies this problem and it amplifies that problem.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/blahblah.gif I had all injestors replaced which helped my MGP and performance but not the hickup.
Nothing has changed, noboby knows why, in some LLY's it works and in others it doesn't. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif Comon sence tells me that one of these days someone is going to discover what the problem is and they are going to have to come up with two different E/A products or we are going to have to fix our trucks. But are they really broken? I agree that everything takes time to figure out and to work out the bugs takes wellllll TIME. Hopefully they can work it out.
Max Power 02-17-2005, 01:34 PM What does it do? Did you have the reflash done?
I would wait until you try the new revision before your cry foul.
Also, if it won't work in your truck i am confident that you would be able to get your money back. I know that is not an ideal situation but at least you aren't out any money.
Edge has always solved all of their problems in the past.
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What does it do? what My truck? It has that hiccup/fishhook sporadically, at idle and while driving.
M.P. I've done everything conceivable. And trust me they know who I am at Edge. In a good way. I've sent them all of my info, told them everything I’ve done and told them that I’m working with them. They have read all of the posts in the aforementioned thread. They have contacted me and advised me about updates.
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Max Power 02-17-2005, 02:02 PM You are right it probably is the truck but perhaps the new version might not do it. It would be worth a try. I have never experienced that problem so I can't offer much help.
jetboatjockey 02-17-2005, 08:38 PM this might be paranoia, but bully dog said that on some trucks they have to pull the on star fuse. i have also heard that by 07 on star will report on all trucks every function that the computer controls. i would think that this would affect warranty work. perhaps some 05 trucks are proto types. i know take my medicine.
Thinkmoto 02-17-2005, 09:46 PM :rant: Man this is sure funny. How about all you Banks bashers now??? Where you at? What about all that talk about buy the Edge, customer service is #1. Sorry to all that are having trouble, I know it sucks.:nutkick:
Well considering this post is about the LLY motor and not the LB7 like you have. You might want to shut your pie hole. The LB7 edge/attitude works awesome and considering what they could do for the LB7 I have no doubts edge will get the LLY box ironed out.
neverenuf 02-17-2005, 10:18 PM Well considering this post is about the LLY motor and not the LB7 like you have. You might want to shut your pie hole. The LB7 edge/attitude works awesome and considering what they could do for the LB7 I have no doubts edge will get the LLY box ironed out.No pie hole boy. Go back and read, you might comprehend a little more, while you're at it find where I referenced the LLY.
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Thinkmoto 02-17-2005, 10:57 PM No pie hole boy. Go back and read, you might comprehend a little more, while you're at it find where I referenced the LLY.
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The original post was about LLY motors and the edge. WTF does your banks/LB7 have do with it?:devilfing
DMAXYUKON 02-18-2005, 12:15 AM :rant: Man this is sure funny. How about all you Banks bashers now??? Where you at? What about all that talk about buy the Edge, customer service is #1. Sorry to all that are having trouble, I know it sucks.:nutkick:
What they said!!! Why do we have people like this???:blahblah:
SteveNorCal 02-18-2005, 12:51 AM What they said!!! Why do we have people like this???:blahblah:
As they say, there is always one or two in the crowd.
I am one of the "original" Beta testers for the LLY with Edge starting back in
June last year. Some of us (not all) had the fuel knock/rattle during warm-up from 1500-2000 rpm. It took a while, BUT a fix was found. It came from GM as a reflash of the PCM. Edge worked on this for some time and then GM came out with the reflash that took care of this for most us with this issue. (By the way, Edge quickly put out the word for everyone to get the reflash to solve this issue.) Then came the "turbo bark" and this hickup. Edge will fix these and like Kennedy said, it will be out very soon (a little birdy told me today)! Most of us are pretty impatient when we want something fixed. In time, like some us have said here, Edge "will" get it fixed and if for some unknown reason it is not, I for one am sure you'll be able to get your $$ back. Nuff' said! :exactly:
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DMAXYUKON 02-18-2005, 01:05 AM :exactly: What they said!!! Why do we have people like this???:blahblah:
As they say, there is always one or two in the crowd.
I am one of the "original" Beta testers for the LLY with Edge starting back in
June last year. Some of us (not all) had the fuel knock/rattle during warm-up from 1500-2000 rpm. It took a while, BUT a fix was found. It came from GM as a reflash of the PCM. Edge worked on this for some time and then GM came out with the reflash that took care of this for most us with this issue. (By the way, Edge quickly put out the word for everyone to get the reflash to solve this issue.) Then came the "turbo bark" and this hickup. Edge will fix these and like Kennedy said, it will be out very soon (a little birdy told me today)! Most of us are pretty impatient when we want something fixed. In time, like some us have said here, Edge "will" get it fixed and if for some unknown reason it is not, I for one am sure you'll be able to get your $$ back. Nuff' said! :exactly:
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05 D/A 2500 02-18-2005, 01:34 AM I have 100% confidence in Edge, they have a great team over there and do care about improving thier product. I have had excellent experiences with thier customer service (Justin in particular), and to me that makes all of the difference in the world. If Edge turned thier back and didn't acknowledge any of these issues then it would be a differen't conversation. I stand behind them and thier product.
I am very happy with my J/A :thumb: to Edge.
Burner 02-18-2005, 02:00 AM How much HP ya gett'n out of the box?
Dmax Tim 02-18-2005, 05:03 AM XR, take your truck in see if there is a newer flash than the Sept. one u had done.
I had mine done last month and it seems >95% of the problem is gone.
I still get the bucking once in a while but then it's gone before it would buck for miles and I would switch levels from 3 down to 0 and it stopped on 0.
neverenuf 02-18-2005, 09:28 AM What they said!!! Why do we have people like this???:blahblah:
If you take a quick look I've been around longer than just about any of you cats. I have one of the original Dmaxes, built 11-01. I've had to listen to everyone baggin on Banks for so long and flying the Edge flag, it has gotten real old. This was long before I even got the 6gun, I was looking at both. Do a quick search and you'll see what I mean, just type in Banks in the p&p forum. Now to see people waiting OVER A YEAR for a fix on their Edge....doesn't sound too good to me. Maybe the next thread opens with Banks as the topic, Edge folks will not have so much to say...you know the Glass house, pot and kettle...that sort of thing.):h
Dmax Tim 02-18-2005, 10:55 AM If you take a quick look I've been around longer than just about any of you cats. I have one of the original Dmaxes, built 11-01. I've had to listen to everyone baggin on Banks for so long and flying the Edge flag, it has gotten real old. This was long before I even got the 6gun, I was looking at both. Do a quick search and you'll see what I mean, just type in Banks in the p&p forum. Now to see people waiting OVER A YEAR for a fix on their Edge....doesn't sound too good to me. Maybe the next thread opens with Banks as the topic, Edge folks will not have so much to say...you know the Glass house, pot and kettle...that sort of thing.):h
The LB7 is fine from banks and edge, but I see that Rob is having an on going problem w/ banks on his LLY box.
U need to get an LLY and join in the fun.
The bulk of our problems the reflash helps a lot.
We are also a lot closer to the alli limit than the lb7 trucks too.
Far as I know Brandon has the top single box LLY power of 440 rwhp and that is J/A box w/ a SC V :grd:
neverenuf 02-18-2005, 11:09 AM The LB7 is fine from banks and edge, but I see that Rob is having an on going problem w/ banks on his LLY box.
U need to get an LLY and join in the fun.
The bulk of our problems the reflash helps a lot.
We are also a lot closer to the alli limit than the lb7 trucks too.
Far as I know Brandon has the top single box LLY power of 440 rwhp and that is J/A box w/ a SC V :grd:
I tried to buy one when they first came out, before GM extended the engine warranty to 200K miles. The dealer in Las Vegas sold the truck from under me and I said F-it. I'm now glad I kept the '02 GMC...I think they look better than the new ones, it's almost paid for, and I have had -0- problems with it. One of my good friends here in Mississippi just bought an '05 LLY and thought it was fast stock...my stock '99 Tahoe smoked him by like 5 truck lengths to 80 mph. ):h Needles to say my chipped Dmax will spank the Tahoe...I think he's convinced he needs a tuner, I think he's going with Predator, not sure.
Scotty Seelen 02-18-2005, 11:26 AM It's interesting to see how many people are NOT having any problems with the LLY Edge and Banks, and then how many people are. I would say if anyone's having an issue with any of these tuners on this motor, FIRST, get the latest reflash. That may solve most, if not all of your problems. For some odd reason, I think that the LLY's have alot of variation on calibrations from the factory, where the LB7's don't. Everyone knows I like Banks best, because I think that their product is more sorted out before any release dates are set-but that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong. I think at this point and time, BOTH Banks and Edge will have a hard time pinning all of these problems down because of the above mentioned calibrations on the LLY's. At this point, I don't think anyone can blame either company. They will both get it sorted out, and we will all be happy with either the 6-gun or Edge, no?
Got Juice? 02-18-2005, 11:27 AM Personally, I believe when GM has a final Calibration flash that works on all LLY DMX's that the aftermarket programming issues will be solved.
Until then it is the exact same scenario as what the LB7 Guys went through.
FWIW
DMAXYUKON 02-18-2005, 11:42 AM I had the reflash done on mine (thanks to Edge as they had the service bulliten, the dealer could not find it). However I still have issues with my Edge in the cold weather.
Dmax Tim 02-18-2005, 01:59 PM I had the reflash done on mine (thanks to Edge as they had the service bulliten, the dealer could not find it). However I still have issues with my Edge in the cold weather.I know what u mean, mine doesn't work below 23*f :(
I haven't tied it to the radiator hose yet.
DMAXYUKON 02-18-2005, 02:04 PM Tried that and it did not work.
Turbo6600 02-20-2005, 10:19 PM I have confidence in Edge Also Just for 6 months they told me they didn't have a problem then About a month ago they have a problem Just want them to get it fixed And I know they will Hopefully fix it right the first time. So I'm Not ready to jump Ship to the BAnk's I just miss my J/A:( That's all Turbo6600
Dmax Tim 02-21-2005, 05:43 AM Tried that and it did not work.
I assume u mean tieing it to the upper radiator hose.
I did it Friday nite and the juice was working <10*f.
I have also noticed my bucking is gone for the last 3 days too.
I started a new post under the LLY about trying it on the cold weather trucks that are having the bucking problem.
XR-Freak 02-22-2005, 01:20 AM XR, take your truck in see if there is a newer flash than the Sept. one u had done.
I had mine done last month and it seems >95% of the problem is gone.
I still get the bucking once in a while but then it's gone before it would buck for miles and I would switch levels from 3 down to 0 and it stopped on 0.
Mine was doing it on every level 0-5. Next time I go in for oil I'll have them re-flash it.
Do you think having the EGT sensor hooked up makes any difference?
Dmax Tim 02-22-2005, 06:33 AM Mine was doing it on every level 0-5. Next time I go in for oil I'll have them re-flash it.
Do you think having the EGT sensor hooked up makes any difference?
Mine quit on level 0 but do it in the other levels.
My EGT isn't hooked up yet, still waiting to get my exhaust on at same time.
XR-Freak 02-23-2005, 05:01 PM Mine quit on level 0 but do it in the other levels.
My EGT isn't hooked up yet, still waiting to get my exhaust on at same time.
I didn't and won't install mine (EGT) untill Edge fixes the problem or we figure out what's wrong with our trucks
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