Hello fellow dieselmen and gassers.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif I'm new and want to say thanks to all.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Been reading for a while. It's realy nice to have a site like this at our fingertips. Questions: Can a dealer tell if you used a programer such as quad or predator and returned to stock? Is there any evidence left behind like a reflash counter or history in the trucks computer?http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif You guys are great, thanks!

Not that I know of, but it wouldn't be very hard for GM to do.


I guess the upshot is that even if this functionality was incorporated into the PCM, 99% of the dealers out there would be too clueless to access it anyway. GM could of course provide a user-friendly mechanism to explicitly look for this, but then everyone would quickly know that they are checking for this.


Fortunately, we have a top 1%'er in our ranks who would tell us if GM was up to such things -- dmaxalliTech.


It probably is only a matter of time before GM begins using such functionality, especially if warranty work begins to increase as a result of people modifying their trucks. I don't think it will, however, since all you get under warranty is stock parts anyway -- and who wants those? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

All of the programmers claim that their code is 100% transparent, so my guess would be that the dealers can't see it.

Why would they look ???
Lesson #1=> Learn how to shrug shoulders ....
Lesson #2=> Learn how to not volunteer info ....
Lesson #3=> Repeat I "I" don't "don't" know "know " .....

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Lesson #4


Learn to bend over when lessons 1 through 3 dont work.

I told the dealer the commercials are full of shi.. They show a truck bouncing around pulling out a backhoe.. I broke both tie rods and cv joints.. I used that scenario.. They wouldn't go for it... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif I couldn't keep from laughing though.. I just paid the man...

Good one Morse! I would pay up also. I just wouldn't want them to decline a waranty for a light bulb or a switch because I had a programer. Probably best to keep it from them till we come to our own conclusions first. Thanks for the replies.