Could someone tell me the actual payload capacity of a 2005, 4X4, 2500hd, Crew Cab/Short Bed, with a DMax/Alli combo.

Thanks.

3293#

It will take significantly more than that.

Ive had 4200+ in there a time or two.

following the "rules" your payload is closer to 2300 lbs. My CCSB4x4 LS duramax weighs in at 6900lbs with full tank of gas and me. That gives a payload of 2300lbs. (9200-6900)

That said, a yard of gravel hardly makes it squat, and thats more than 2300lbs, closer to 3300lbs.

guys,

I have a non hd 2500... a 98 2500... I have had the truck at just over 10,000...

So I would guess that you could be closer to 11,000

Stock no timbers or anything

Pete

Does anyone know why GM posts such low numbers for payload. I have a 04 crew cab 3500 SRW lly, and the glove box indicated 1,993 lbs, but like the rest of you i have loaded it way over that and it doesn’t even sag, let alone go to the helper springs.

Does anyone know why GM posts such low numbers for payload. I have a 04 crew cab 3500 SRW lly, and the glove box indicated 1,993 lbs, but like the rest of you i have loaded it way over that and it doesn’t even sag, let alone go to the helper springs.
Sounds about right for SRW drive. A dually has different axle, springs , wheels, tires and brakes.Those guys that use extra spprings, air bags,bigger tires, ect to in cease payload a

Does anyone know why GM posts such low numbers for payload. I have a 04 crew cab 3500 SRW lly, and the glove box indicated 1,993 lbs, but like the rest of you i have loaded it way over that and it doesn’t even sag, let alone go to the helper springs.
Sounds about right for CC SRW drive. A dually has different axle, springs , wheels, tires and brakes.Those guys that use extra springs, air bags,bigger tires, ect to incease payload are flirting with safety issues and truck abuse problems. I have seen cracked/broken frames and bent springs due to over load.
Recommend overload devices be used only for leveling, not increasing payload.

In this case, anyone who loads a full size truck camper is over the recommended payload. Mine is only a 8.5 ft, and has a dry weight of about 3,500 lbs...

The 3293# is in the brochure. Probably liability issues and/or false advertising prevents GM from rating it higher. There is probably a cushion built into the 3293# number. Maybe 10% to 20% over maximum???

The 3293# is in the brochure. Probably liability issues and/or false advertising prevents GM from rating it higher. There is probably a cushion built into the 3293# number. Maybe 10% to 20% over maximum???
Does the brochure specify if the 3293# is for a 4X4 Dmax/Alli with the crew cab and short bed? It seems some of the info I've read boasts big numbers but those are usually for a 2wd regular cab gasser.

i have a cc 3500 srw, and have had two pallates of cinder block, about 4800 lbs, and it was just fine.

Thanks for all the posts guys. However, I understand that any truck will most likely haul over it's gvw but I need the ACTUAL payload numbers. This has to do with hauling my fifth wheel and wanting to be 100% legal in doing so. My current '04 Ram 2500 pulls my camper like a champ. The problem is that I'm overloaded by roughly 500lbs combined with the fact I want a real crew cab. Unfortunetly, the GVW numbers for the new MegaCab from Dodge are weaker than my current truck so now I'm looking at GMC.

Here's a weird one. My glove box states payload is 1,993 lbs as I stated earlier, so I thougt I would do a search on what the 05 3500 SRW payload is and it shows 3,806, and Dual wheels at 4,942
http://www.gmc.com/specs/specs_content_files/specs_towing.jsp?brand=sierra&vehicle=3500

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That is probably for the base truck w/o options. Here is a GM link to calcuate payload based on individual options on the truck. I think you'll find the REAL payload to be MUCH lower. A CC/SWB/4x4 2500HD with duramax is about 2400lbs. It will give you front and rear axle weight, front and rear axle margin, and total payload weight. The duramax allison adds almost 1000 lbs if I remember correctly to the vehicle weight compared to the base truck with a 6 liter and stick.

By the way, I found the calculations to be very accurate. The calculated weight was within 50 lbs of my measured empty weight going over the scales. (No driver, full tank of fuel)

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2005&regionID=1&divisionID=1&type=0&vehicleID=1142&section=modeloptionweight&page=&butID=21

According to that link, here's your weights for a LS (deluxe) trim:

Current Selections: CK25743 -- 4WD Crew Cab Standard Box, C6W -- GVWR, 9200 lbs. (4173 kg), LLY -- Engine, Duramax 6600 Turbo Diesel V8, M74 -- Transmission, Allison 1000 5-speed automatic, 1SB -- LS Trim


Weight Front Rear Total
Base 3,456.0 2,378.0 5,834.0
Options 816.9 131.7 948.6
Total 4,272.9 2,509.7 6,782.6
..GVWR 4,800.0 6,084.0 9,200.0
Payload 527.1 3,574.3 2,417.4

Here's the problem, they set the GVW low for some reason. Look at the rear axle payload weight, 3574!! According to their chart, you couldn't legally carry to big men and a full tank of fuel according to their front axle rating, but you could can carry more in the bed than the total payload.

To increase your payload you have only one option, get a long bed. Huh?? That's because 3500's only come in long bed at GM. By switching to the 3500 Single Rear Wheel, you get:

2704lb total payload

Going dually?

4070lb total payload, but now the front is only 335lb??? A big guy and a cooler is all you can put in the front!

Apparently their formulas are not well thought out. According to them, you can only safely put 4 people in the front and a full tank is if you are towing a very heavy bumper hitch trailer! And a bumper hitch is safer than a 5th wheel?

In the real world, you need to consider the tire weight ratings at both ends, and the total combined vehicle weight. I can tell you from experience that running at GM's suggested GVW rating, that the rear suspension on my 3500SRW goes down 1-2", and you can barely tell there's any weight in the truck. Putting 4000lb in the bed makes it run level, and there is still plenty of suspension travel, and little body roll.

For some odd reason, American truck mfr's underrate their trucks alot. The Japanese have no such policy, and some of their GVW's are pretty humorous if you actually load them up there.

Cool, thats exactly what I was looking for.

I've hauled a cooler full of Miller Lite in the bed, and it doesn't squat A BIT.

Here's the problem, they set the GVW low for some reason. Look at the rear axle payload weight, 3574!! According to their chart, you couldn't legally carry to big men and a full tank of fuel according to their front axle rating, but you could can carry more in the bed than the total payload.



Apparently their formulas are not well thought out. According to them, you can only safely put 4 people in the front and a full tank is if you are towing a very heavy bumper hitch trailer! And a bumper hitch is safer than a 5th wheel?

.figuring the axle load is not as simple as it seems when adding weight to the vehicle. weight in the cab is distributed over front and rear axles based on distance to the axles from the load. In fact, adding load behind the rear axle shifts weight from the front axle to the rear axle. For example, adding 1000 lbs to the trailer ball (w/o weight distributing hitch), will result in more than 1000 lbs load added to the rear axle. Some of the front axle load is also transferred to the rear axle. It is actually pretty hard to overload the front even though it looks like you could. (well, adding a plow could do it I suppose)

I have an excel spreadsheet that lets you calculate weight on each axle of a tow vehicle and towed vehicle based on where the load is placed, weight, wheelbase tongue location etc.

Bill,

I don't believe that the 3500 has a different setup as your thinking...

A dually has different axle, springs , wheels, tires and brakes. I have a 98 2500 with a 8 lug full floater 14 bolt 10.5" ring gear running 245/75/16 with 13" rear drums... just like a 1 ton.. the only difference is that of an additional help spring. and then again .. the only difference to a dually is a different rim to fit both tires...

I have a good friend that has a 1 ton ford that has put 3 tons I believe in the rear of his truck. It used to mean that a 1/2 ton to 1 ton could carry that amount.. but I know its not close to correct anymore.. all legalities aside...

The 1500 has a payload of 2040 ( over a ton), the 2500 has a capacity of 3334, the 2500HD has a capacity in this range is 4,029, the 3500 has a capacity of 5,753.
These numbers are what I have found online and could be different depending on year...

Pete

The concept of "acutal payload" varies greatly from state-to-state and is mostly just random numbers to deal with other random numbers put into laws by ignornat hacks in the legislature trying to maximize tax revenue.

The 2500HD has the same frame and running gear as the 3500 SRW and DRW. The same AAM1150 rear rated at 4950kg (more than 10,000 lbs) is in the back. The same frame is used. The 3500 have the same springs, plus a few more leafs. The DRW trucks get different tires&wheels; the SRW trucks get different tires.

After converting to 19.5 wheels, I regularly run at 6 tons and and well within the
margin of safety.