: Difference between bioesel processors
jrad12381 05-02-2008, 01:11 AM OK so i have been seriously looking into biodiesel processing, and I am looking for advice or opinions on processors. I have narrowed it down to 3 processors that seem promising, and I would like to hear what you guys think about them. The first being the standard extractor from www.extremebiodiesel.com (http://www.extremebiodiesel.com), the second being the hbd80 from www.heartlandbiodieselsupply.com (http://www.heartlandbiodieselsupply.com), and the third being the elite processor with dry wash from www.allamericanbuofuels.com (http://www.allamericanbuofuels.com)
Please let me know what you guys think of these systems
Thanks
Jared
Eddysel 05-02-2008, 08:55 AM Well I wouldn't go with any of those but thats just me. I'm biased because I just received by BIO-Pro 190. Check out utahbiodiesel.com for bio-pro's or dynatroit diesel for another good processor. Dynatroit is a vendor here.
The Bio-Pro is all 304 14 gauge stainless. I couldn't believe how well built it is . No plastic on this thing.
Good luck
Ed
WiggyHD 05-02-2008, 10:33 AM Could you please let us (me) know how things go with your bio-pro? Do you know anyone who has used there own "homebrewed" fuel? Have you ever used it?
THANKS!
Mark
jrad12381 05-02-2008, 11:34 AM Well I wouldn't go with any of those but thats just me. I'm biased because I just received by BIO-Pro 190. Check out utahbiodiesel.com for bio-pro's or dynatroit diesel for another good processor. Dynatroit is a vendor here.
The Bio-Pro is all 304 14 gauge stainless. I couldn't believe how well built it is . No plastic on this thing.
Good luck
Ed
I would love to get the bio pro 190. I will tell you what if you donate a few thousand more to my bio fund I will get it...hows that sound ;) It is a very nice unit, jut more than I am looking to spend.
tmougeotte 05-02-2008, 12:38 PM What is it that make the Bio Pro sooo expensive?
adamrc 05-02-2008, 12:41 PM I also have a BioPro 190 and I love it! It is built of very high quality commercial components and has a LOT of stainless steel on it. It will actually pay for itself a lot quicker than people realize because of the high fuel costs now. It's mostly all automated, except for draining the glycerin and adding the oil, chemicals, methanol, and sulfuric acid. It will make biodiesel that passes ASTM specs easily.
Eddysel 05-02-2008, 02:11 PM I look at it like this, we all could have gotten second hand 1970's pick-up trucks and accomplished most of what we wanted to with our trucks. But we didn't. We went top of the line proffesional grade Duramax/Allison....you know ...proven... and are happy we did. Sure we could have gone the cheaper route and kept throwing parts and money at it until we got it where it needed to be but we all demanded better. JMO
jrad12381 05-03-2008, 12:43 PM OK so I spoke to the owner from heartland diesel supply and I am very interested in there processor. I am ready to buy one but I want to make sure I am not wasting my money on a processor. If any of you with knowledge or experience in this field I would really appreciate it if you could take a look at there site www.heartlandbiodieselsupply.com and let me know what you think. Please be honest. Also I know this is not the best equipment but I was looking at some pumps from harbor frieght one is a non spark chemical hand pump for the methanol, and the other is a normal hand crank pump i was going to get for the WVO with a filter, do those seam OK.
jj500 05-03-2008, 06:31 PM Seems like a buttload of money for 2 plastic tanks and stands and a pump.Not even a heating system on this I could see.Said could use a separate hot water tank and coils for heating,but to each whatever floats their boat.:)
carbuilder 05-03-2008, 07:51 PM I am looking at the www.biodiesel123.com (http://www.biodiesel123.com) unit I talked to Gary on friday for a good 20 minutes more time then any of the others wanted to give a potential customer. I guess they all seam to think i want to steal the machine secret. I can not afford to pay to much eather. His system is modular which most seam to be & comes with a heater. He also has an optional bio frequency part that he says helps make faster & cleaner biodiesel. This is starting to remind me of my grand dad telling me about him making shine in the ozarks. Maybe it's time to fire up my 5 gallon still cooler that I have had for about 7 years bought at a swap meet.
bjadamsr6 05-03-2008, 08:15 PM i am also wanting to do the biodiesel thing. finding a processor is very difficult. decoding their websites and finding a good compressor is hard. i am very confused
jrad12381 05-04-2008, 12:24 AM I am looking at the www.biodiesel123.com (http://www.biodiesel123.com) unit I talked to Gary on friday for a good 20 minutes more time then any of the others wanted to give a potential customer. I guess they all seam to think i want to steal the machine secret. I can not afford to pay to much eather. His system is modular which most seam to be & comes with a heater. He also has an optional bio frequency part that he says helps make faster & cleaner biodiesel. This is starting to remind me of my grand dad telling me about him making shine in the ozarks. Maybe it's time to fire up my 5 gallon still cooler that I have had for about 7 years bought at a swap meet.
I will have to give Gary a call. That looks like a very good system.
Thanks
mako20c 05-04-2008, 02:47 AM well guys like i said in the other bio post im in the process of building my own bio processor, which is going to be a copy cat of the poly tank systems taking the positves designs of several types.
so far im gathering parts and my poly tanks are on order, im estimating a cost of $700 dollars which includes s&h for parts purchased over the internet.
I can go into more detail if anyone is interested in doing this also, I feel if you are handy enough to make the bio diesel then you definately can make the processor as well.
carbuilder 05-04-2008, 12:19 PM mako20c please post what ever info you have. I have the equipment to build one I just dont know what goes where & how to make it work properly. I dont want to mess up my new truck.
RI Chevy Silveradoman 05-04-2008, 12:26 PM Same here, I am very interested in your outcome!
mako20c 05-04-2008, 02:24 PM well so far my poly tanks are on order from plastic-mart, there bio kit. Yesterday I picked up the clear water pump from harbor freight which is the blue pump everyone uses on this type of set up. Harbor freight also carriers a metal rotary style pump for use in 55 gal drums,
So now im finding the best price on ball valves and pipe in my town,
What I did for research is a friend and I both understand the process so we know what has to happen, and then by watching youtube videos of people using different companies reactors we are seeing what designs we like and what not.
The poly tanks come with stands and Im going to get a pallet and mount a 3/4 plywood top to it for my base on my system so it can be moved around, I may even put on some caster wheels.
1)The tanks will then be lag bolted down to the base and the pump also
2) Start looking around your industrial part of town for a metal 55 gal drum that is in good condition. This will be your oil resevoir that will be heated.
a. one method to heat the tank is to use a barrel heater belt, which wraps around the outside of a metal tank and heats it up.
b. Im going to use new water tank heater elements and drill a hole in the tank on opposite sides and different heights and then use a jam nut and some jb weld to secure them in the tank and wire that to a switch on the control panel. Im going this way because it should heat faster and be cheaper.
3) Im now in the process of locating a supllier for ball valves and black iron pipe for the piping of the system.
byronbaumann 05-04-2008, 02:33 PM I look at it like this, we all could have gotten second hand 1970's pick-up trucks and accomplished most of what we wanted to with our trucks. But we didn't. We went top of the line proffesional grade Duramax/Allison....you know ...proven... and are happy we did. Sure we could have gone the cheaper route and kept throwing parts and money at it until we got it where it needed to be but we all demanded better. JMO
huh?
Duramaxed06 05-04-2008, 06:52 PM Let us all know how it goes, I may take the step towards the Biopro 380. I know its more of an investment, but I ran some numbers and it will pay for itself in a few months. I dont have the time to do titration's and spend allot of time measuring and all that. I like how i can hit one button on the bio pro and get back to work.
By that time Diesel will be $5/gal and I will save more and more money everyday as the price of diesel continues to rise.
Just like a few posts up. It meets the same quality as diesel, washes, and dries the oil.
If I had more time to mess with it, I would do it the traditional way, but I feel my time is worth more than that.
Eddysel 05-04-2008, 07:36 PM :agreed:
carbuilder 05-04-2008, 08:17 PM What is bio pros web address I have not been able to find it in the searches I have done I like the Idea of hit a botton & walk away. I am to busy doing sheet metal work to spend 2 or 3 hrs a day doing a lot of testing & other things. My schedual will be tight enough just chasing down the oil.
Pruittx2 05-04-2008, 11:19 PM http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/biopro190.php
thats for you car builder,,,
heres a link to a thread I have going about my setup, and using it fot the first time.
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=447609751&f=719605551&m=1501054842&r=3161055842#3161055842
carbuilder 05-07-2008, 02:51 PM Thank you for the link to bio pro its to pricy for me.
carbuilder 05-07-2008, 11:30 PM Has any one here made there own proscesser system. I have a very well equiped street rod sheet metal fab shop & 3 sheets 3 ft x 6 ft 304 stainless. I know there are several set's of plans on ebay is one better then the other. Pictures of a home made system would be great.
samouhosvince 05-08-2008, 12:13 AM It seems to me that all these processors are very similar, I was told that the filters are key. i am also trying to produce my own biodesiel, but I don't know the correct mixture for my truck. Do any of you know?
BMGhauler 05-08-2008, 02:04 AM My dad and I are thinking of one of these. www.evolutionbiodieselkits.com They look pretty good.
TopInformant 05-08-2008, 02:14 AM i like the idea of making your own fuel it puts it to exon and such ha ha
70 gsconvt 05-08-2008, 08:29 AM It seems to me that all these processors are very similar, I was told that the filters are key. i am also trying to produce my own biodesiel, but I don't know the correct mixture for my truck. Do any of you know?
You can run 100% biodiesel as long as it stays above 40 degrees outside. Below that, you'd be safe running a 50/50 mix I believe.
carbuilder 05-08-2008, 02:19 PM I just bought one of the how to make your own systems off of ebay in pdf format $21.70 with Tax the guy lives in washington. I emailed him this morning asking if he had a system running that I could also come & see. I told him I pay for his time. I have found after being in business for 40 years when you offer to pay for some ones time up front you end up getting a lot more info then just wanting the info & not pay for there extra time when buying a product. After I have taken a good look at the book I will determine weather I build my own or buy a finished system. I will keep this thread informed. Lets keep this thread going & not support big oil so much there working on breaking the small guy & wall street is not helping. The oil speculaters are the ones that keep raising the barrel pricing. Sorry about the rant but I watch the stock market stuff every morning just to see what is going on. The rich get richer, the poor & middle class just get along. Danny Pascoe
jrad12381 05-08-2008, 04:11 PM I just bought one of the how to make your own systems off of ebay in pdf format $21.70 with Tax the guy lives in washington. I emailed him this morning asking if he had a system running that I could also come & see. I told him I pay for his time. I have found after being in business for 40 years when you offer to pay for some ones time up front you end up getting a lot more info then just wanting the info & not pay for there extra time when buying a product. After I have taken a good look at the book I will determine weather I build my own or buy a finished system. I will keep this thread informed. Lets keep this thread going & not support big oil so much there working on breaking the small guy & wall street is not helping. The oil speculaters are the ones that keep raising the barrel pricing. Sorry about the rant but I watch the stock market stuff every morning just to see what is going on. The rich get richer, the poor & middle class just get along. Danny Pascoe
Haha I second that! Part of the reason why I want to do this so much is just to f*#k the oil companies. I know that me doing this alone is not doing anything to there business but it feels good.:D
carbuilder 05-08-2008, 04:37 PM It will sure make my pocketbook feel better.:coolnana:
Rockin C Racing 05-08-2008, 04:51 PM carbuilder - If you are ever down my direction, your more than welcome to come check out my system and compare or what ever. Just let me know.
carbuilder 05-08-2008, 07:07 PM Rockin C thanks for the invite I dont get down that way very often but you never know.
carbuilder 05-08-2008, 07:16 PM I have been talking with a guy today who has been running home brew for 3 plus year's now. He is just getting ready to start building another proscessor end of this month or first of next it, looks like I will get to tag along for a weekend or two on the build. I will keep it posted about home made systems.
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