I've been looking for a wax to do my tryck up and can't believe the selection... i heard that Maguires Hi Tech Wax (NXT Generation) is a good product....

My current favorite is Meguiar's gold class...I use the paste....Personally, I think the liquid sucks

i like the Mothers paste i like it. i never thought the liquid did as good as job as the other stuff.

But I dont speak polish...

-Dan

Zaino...........

What he said..... Zaino....

Been using it for 3 years now with good results.

Zaaaaaaaaaiiinnnooooooooooooooooo

What they said....Mequires :grd:

I also heard that Meguires NXT was a quality product and ive applied it to my truck once......its alot of truck to wax!! I was satisfied with the looks and it applied and wiped off very easily, also smells great (not that your waxing your truck so it can smell good) but when when spending a couple hours with wax on your hands and working with it, its nice that you don't smell like turtle wax afterwards. I always hear people raving over Zaino so I don't think you can go wrong either way.

heard lots about Zaino, may have to try it myself...

heard lots about Zaino, may have to try it myself...
Me too... but Zymol works well also

My buddy swears by Zaino, I'll have to try that stuff out some day.

What ever happened to WaxShop products? It was #1 about 10yrs ago.


LATER!

P21s;)

Zaino hands down.

Zaino. A pain to apply and take off compared to NXT, but the results are worth it.

I used the Zaino and it's a quality product but it didn't seem to 'hold up' well for long periods of time but easy on and off for me. Meguiars NXT a little harder to get off but seems to have a longer life. Overall finish I give to Zaino, durability to NXT, in either case they both will do you well

Is Zanio a mail order item only? Or can it be had locally?

Zaino is mail order BK only as far as I know

Another vote for Zaino. It's mail-order, through localized vendors. It's all I use on the Z/28, and it really makes the paint pop. The application isn't that bad, especially if you skip the Z-1 and add the accelerator to either the Z-2 or Z-5 (Z-5 is better for darker colors). Buff it out, then clay bar it before polishing, and the results will be impressive.

ZAINO!! It still takes some time to do a big truck, but it is well worth the time and effort when done. Couple coats of Z-5 with a finish coat of Z-2 works well on my black truck.

I use the Mequiars four stage cleaning and waxing system, it is a ten hour job but holds well for about 120 days. the system includes a clay bar for removing stubern stains,sap,forigen material on paint, a saturday job!

zaino

I have Zaino and have used it a couple times. The results are fantastic but the application time is a big problem to me. I picked up some NXT last year and let me tell you that the results are every bit as good as the Zaino IMO. Less than an hour for an application vs. a complete day is big in my book. Also the price is much less and the product is readily available. NXT is one of the best bang for your buck products out there.

Zaino here.

Zaino - been using it for about 2 years now.. Try it.. you'll like it.

I'm an NXT fan here also. Bang for the buck in both time and $.

I thought about Zaino once... But if I'm going to have to do the whole truck 3-4 different times to get a good look, that is too much time. I bet if you waxed any truck two or three times ina row it would look as good as Zaino or better IMO.

where do you get this Zaino's stuff you are all talking about

Zaino---the key with using it is to apply several layers at the begining--then after that a layer every now then is all you need.

After the initial prep---the maintainance layers are very easy to put on---just apply it--no buffing. I like to put it on in the AM and by 4pm or so take it off---the longer the cure time the better the shine and the longer it will last.

Zaino---the key with using it is to apply several layers at the begining--then after that a layer every now then is all you need.

After the initial prep---the maintainance layers are very easy to put on---just apply it--no buffing. I like to put it on in the AM and by 4pm or so take it off---the longer the cure time the better the shine and the longer it will last.
I agree but for me I clay my truck several times a year so i am taking it back down to the beginning each time i clay so it is not worth it for me. I agree it is a smoking finish when the time is put in. I'm just saying the the same results can be achieved in a very short amount of time when comparing them. Zaino is awsome just NXT is a better bang for your buck product IMO.

i used to use gold class now i use nxt. what i really like is that eagle one wax as you dry. it lasts a good month or more but since i was it almost every week durning the summer it seems to last for ever. it seems to bead the water up a ton better than any wax i have used. and the best part is its soooo easy to use, very fast and effective!!!

I used Meguiar's for about ten years, tried Zaino and now that's all I use...their tire stuff and leather stuff kicks ass too!

Ox

Oh yeah, I dry with a leaf blower too....

zymol or the meguairs reflective for me

I've been using Collinites insulator wax. Stuff lasts a long time, goes on easy and doesn't get the black plastic all weird if you happen to get a little crazy with your buffer/polisher.

Chris

Collinite #476S

Best I've found. Mud won't stick to it and just use a hose to clean the beast off. Price is up there but it's worth it. Detergent proof too. Easy on, easy off.
www.collinite.com (http://www.collinite.com)
Good post Machoosh, great avatar too, eh?

Shadow

I vote for a product used in the RV world. "Protect All".

It is a sythetic, can be used as a uv inhilbitor on the dashboard, and on the tires.

My last treatment on my 02 Dmas, and 01 Suburban was 3 years ago and the water still beads up.

Follow the directions, very little goes a long way, with super easy apply and polish. Do both vehicles in a couple hours.

What ever happened to WaxShop products? It was #1 about 10yrs ago.


LATER!

I read your post yesterday, then happened to see two 16 fl oz bottles of WaxShop on the shelf at the Flying J in Eloy, Az for 12.49 ea.

But I dont speak polish...

-Dan:funnypost Anyone know how to say wax on, wax off in Polish?

bardzo sie denerwuje kiedy zaczynam mowie po polsku!

For years when I was younger we would drive past this company on Rt 100 in Pa. I always interpreted the sign as a Polish (as in Poland) Company.

The Kiwi Polish Company

They make the little tins of shoe polish.



I picked up a quart of IBIZ World Class car wax at the auto show last week. This stuff any good? I'm not a big waxer. Not that I don't think you should but I don't have the ambition anymore. I might wax once a year.

Ingredients are Monton Wax (fossilized carnuba), UV and acid rain protection

I use Eagle One Wet that I get from Walmart. I have used this for many years. It takes out hard water stains with ease and does a fine job witht he vehicles polish.

Zaino...their tire stuff and leather stuff kicks ass too!


Oh yeah, I dry with a leaf blower too....
Yeah their tire stuff is the best i have used. Leaves the tire clean without that greasy look. The leather stuff is great too. My wife uses it all the time on her stuff too. That for reminding me...I need to order more!

ZAINO!!


Hands down the best! :ro)

Hey All,

I first used Bufalo Milke when I had to clean up an old truck and Jeep for sale. This stuff does an amazing job and is incredibly easy. It brought extremely dull and faded paint back to a clear glossy wet reflection. It looks to be used by a lot of vintage and custom owners, that's why I ordered it.
I've never found any other users, so does anyone here know anything about it? It seems to be an exceptional product...

Sir Veyor

Been around a long time I actually did a survey (test) bought just about every wax you can imagine -

Taking into consideration time to apply, ease of use (on and off), dust factor, shine, clarity, hazing factor, length of shine (how long it holds up after so many washings), bead factor (water repelling attributes).

It is my unproffesional opinion that the line of 3M products did the trick longer and more effectively than all of the others I tried (believe me folks the list is so long I simply can't remember all of the products).

Simply put 3M products are really good and fairly inexpensive...

I have to agree that Collinite #476S is some good stuff, not easy to use but it doesnt come off after you wash your truck. I apply it twice a year and never have any probs.

If you have a White truck then Zaino is absolutely the best choice. My last truck was white, 7 years old and 150K+ miles, never garaged and it looked better than the day I bought it. My Corvette is white also. Zaino makes white just flat brilliant.

WHY I SWITCHED TO ZAINO:
While at an indoor Corvette show a few years back, I noticed a White C5 Corvette like mine across the isle. But looking at his, I noticed how much brighter his was than mine. I asked if he had his repainted, he said “no, it was the original paint”. I asked then how come yours is so much brighter than mine.

He chuckled a bit and said,”Do you use wax on your car?” I said of course, I have 4-5 coats of Maguire’s Gold Class. He said “theres your problem”. I must have gave him a goofy look like he was nuts, “I have used Maquires products for 30 years, I told him”. He said “look at your can of wax what color is it”. “Well, its Yellow” I said. He also stated that "Wax is Wax", UV plays havoc on wax and will yellow it also.

“What do you think those layer of yellow wax are doing to your white? its slowly giving it a yellow tint. The more layers, the more yellow”. He then went on to state the virtues of Zaino which you can read about here at www.zainostore.com (http://www.zainostore.com/) , go to the “Tips and Tricks” section.

Sure enough, when I got home I clay barred on half of my hood, laid down a couple coats of Zaino and was just flat floored at the results. Sure enough, there was a obvious yellow tint to the Maguire’s side.

Its worth every bit of effort and is actually easier after the first application

The Corvette is my wifes daily driver with 50,000+ miles. Just last year alone I have taken 1st place "Best of Show" at the local World of Wheels Show and 3rd place just this weekend at an outdoor show out of town. The two that beat me were show "only" cars that never see the street. Many other 100 point show wins.

Every Judge sheet comments on the "outstanding paint and shine" the Vette has and its all due to taking the paint down to a perfectly smooth surface and laying down 3-4 coats of Zaino polish over


ON CLAY BAR:
You would not believe the contamination and rail dust that is in your paint on a brand new car/truck.

I clay barred my '03 D/A and put 3 coats of Zaino the first week I had the truck.

Go to the site I linked above and look at their tips and trick section.

Its not hard at all and will make washing your truck easier. Clay Bar ONCE then build to shine.

My truck and Vette get a fresh coat of Zaino ONLY once a year, I've never had to clay bar it since.

I think Meguiars NXT wax if the truck is prepped right leaves a nice wet look.

Lexol for the leather and rubber... :ro)

What is Meguiars NXT? I been using Meguiars "cleaner wax" for as long as I can remember waxing vehicles! Also, they make a detail spray that is awsome for dark colors, and smells good too. It will take light dirt off a Black Harley and not scratch the paint!! In fact, waxing the Harley (I use this as an example cause it is black) leaves very light scratches, spray on the detailer and wipe off with a clean terry towel and it looks great!

redneck click the link : ;)

http://www.meguiars.com/whatsnew/techwax.cfm

Just as a side note on Meguiars Products.

I am a Zaino convert and will probably always be.

I met and spoke with Barry Meguiar at the 2004 SEMA show in Vegas. He is genuinely honest man who loves his job. He puts out a good product that many people use who may not have used anything on their car if it were not for Barrys products.

I complemented him on his passion for cars and his show, Car Crazy. While being a bit corny at times, its nice to see other peoples love for cars.

He asked which Meguiars products I like..............I paused for a second or two and stated that I use Zaino Polish but use some of Meguiars other car care products. He chuckled a bit and said, "Thats great, Sal (Zaino) makes a great product".

We talked for awhile longer and had a great conversation. I'm trying to get him to come speak at one of our Corvette Club meetings. He said he would love to and will get back with me in the spring to try to confirm some dates.

In short, Barry makes some fine products but so does Sal Zaino, if you have never tried Zaino, give it a chance, you may be surprised.

Just as a side note on Meguiars Products.

I am a Zaino convert and will probably always be.

I met and spoke with Barry Meguiar at the 2004 SEMA show in Vegas. He is genuinely honest man who loves his job. He puts out a good product that many people use who may not have used anything on their car if it were not for Barrys products.

I complemented him on his passion for cars and his show, Car Crazy. While being a bit corny at times, its nice to see other peoples love for cars.

He asked which Meguiars products I like..............I paused for a second or two and stated that I use Zaino Polish but use some of Meguiars other car care products. He chuckled a bit and said, "Thats great, Sal (Zaino) makes a great product".

We talked for awhile longer and had a great conversation. I'm trying to get him to come speak at one of our Corvette Club meetings. He said he would love to and will get back with me in the spring to try to confirm some dates.

In short, Barry makes some fine products but so does Sal Zaino, if you have never tried Zaino, give it a chance, you may be surprised.
Zaino is no better than any of the top shelf products offered by the best detailing companies around - that's fact not fiction - Zaino is like the hoola/hoop just the latest thing everyone has to have - and the answer is a resounding yes I have used it and still do on occasion have it in my garage as I type...

Zaino is no better than any of the top shelf products offered by the best detailing companies around - that's fact not fiction - ..

Do you have proof to back up your FACTS?

First off, Zaino is not a wax, it is a polish.

Here is some proof that Zaino IS in fact better.

This is off the NSX forum test so no bias towards any of the products.

http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

I did a lot of research prior to switching, I dont do things on a whim.

When I first used Zaino--I was not impressed---I have used waxes before and thought the shine was better.

But for me...when I layered it...say a layer per week for three weeks...WOW!

And after layering it...it holds the shine longer.

One thing I have found, when it comes to meguiar's gold class the paste works 100 times better than the liquid....

Excuse me - but I am well aware Zaino is a polish - as a matter of fact I stated that in a previous post...

Please Mr. Nate get ahold of yourself, pop a paxil and relax, this is NOT a personal attack on you or your brand of wax or polish I could care less what you choose to coat your truck with... again stated in a previous post - I am not an expert, I don't have a wax/polish labratory (Dexter's Labratory), I don't own stocks in -or have any interest financially in any of these companies.
What I do have is many years of experience detailing vehicles and a personal test of a rather large sampling of many different kinds of wax/polish many of them I'm sure you never heard of. My eye and my opinion along with many different factors (as stated in a previous post) has prompted me to make the statements regarding Zaino, period.

But, if you choose to line Sal's pockets with cash for something that's no better than "Formula 113" http://www.formula113.com/ as a matter of fact I think formula 113 kicks Zaino a$$... than so be it, whatever floats your boat Brother... (I wouldn't be surprized if Zaino made formula 113 that's how close it is) Mr. Nate have you ever heard of "Formula 113" ?

wow. i thought we were an informative type group and not product pushers. i thought we offered our opinions and let the readers make up their own minds. we are all adults here and i feel NO ONE should be afraid of giving their opinion or facts. everyone still has an opinion and in my opinion and from what i have used, Eagle One Wet is best for me. I have had good results from it and don't see me changing. It ultimately comes down to how you want to carfe your your $50K investment.

I have used Formula 113, its a good product, but like the look of the Zaino better on the Vette. I have not been able to bring myself to doing a CC/SB truck with Zaino though...lol

Little funny thing about Formula 113, a friend of mine was swearing by that, just to combat the Zaino "Nazis" as many people put it. So we took this messed up car his sister had, he polished a spot with the Formula, I used an off the shelf product, asked his parents to judge. His parents picked the off the shelf product for shine quality...lol

I will say that once the initial day of hell of washing with Dawn dish soap, clay bar and applying 4 coats in one day, since then I only put on a coat every few months just to give it a deeper shine, but so far it has never worn off. I also only use the Zaino soap on it.

I tried Zaino on my white 03 shortly after I bought it and was amazed with the results. I have tried lots of polishes/waxes over the years as well as I've always been a detail freak. My previous favorite was Zylmol but it never seemed to last very long.

Yes, the Zaino is a lot of work up front (spent an entire weekend applying it) but the results were excellent and left the truck a brilliant, wet looking white ... and it lasted just as long or longer then anything I have tried...so far.

Car Polish/wax is like tooth paste ...there are 100+ brands, a majority of which I'm sure are made by the same company ...relabeled and put in a pretty box. In the end they all do the same thing ...protect paint. Is anyone the best? Probably not ...but I do beleive some are much better then others. After all, if one wax/polish was clearly the best everyone would be using it.

I clay bar'd my truck today as a matter of fact and have a bottle of the Meguiers NXT stuff sitting on the shelf which I'll apply tomorrow. Perhaps it will be the best :)

"Layered wax." Really? Rinsed the beast off with the hose today. Been sitting since November. Got busted by the wife because she thought I washed my truck. Had to admit, it did look good just for a rinse. My choice is
Collinite ....one coat!


Ahahahhah!
Shadow

I have manufactured a "special" Duramax-only wax-polish that will beat any wax-polish on the market. It consists of 1/4 oz. of the top 50 wax-polishes on the market ...all mixed together...coupled with 1 oz of Jack Daniels. It is engineered especially for Duramax/Allison trucks and will shave 1/2 second off 1/4 mile times. Be the first to say "I've tried them all ..." Wax your wagon once and be done.

If you call now you will get a free set of Yoginzo steak knives and an extra polishing pad for your loved one... so she can help.

All this for $21.99 + shipping. Can you beleieve it!? Yes folks, $21.99 for the best wax-polish on the planet, a set of steak knives and extra polishing pad.

CALL NOW, lines are OPEN!

I have manufactured a "special" Duramax-only wax-polish that will beat any wax-polish on the market. It consists of 1/4 oz. of the top 50 wax-polishes on the market ...all mixed together...coupled with 1 oz of Jack Daniels. It is engineered especially for Duramax/Allison trucks and will shave 1/2 second off 1/4 mile times. Be the first to say "I've tried them all ..." Wax your wagon once and be done.

If you call now you will get a free set of Yoginzo steak knives and an extra polishing pad for your loved one... so she can help.

All this for $21.99 + shipping. Can you beleieve it!? Yes folks, $21.99 for the best wax-polish on the planet, a set of steak knives and extra polishing pad.

CALL NOW, lines are OPEN!
:lol: tell it to the Zaino Braino's and if you don't swear by Zaino they'll find you and beat you up - hahahahahahahahahahaha

One more thing - LAYER THIS ...:muahaha:

Zaino is no better than any of the top shelf products offered by the best detailing companies around - that's fact not fiction - Zaino is like the hoola/hoop just the latest thing everyone has to have - and the answer is a resounding yes I have used it and still do on occasion have it in my garage as I type...
No body is paying me a dime and I hold no stock in Zaino.

I'm just passing on my experiences I've had in 30+ years of detailing and showing cars.

While passing on my experiences someone flaps off about its no better than anythig else and "thats fact not fiction" with nothing to back it up I ask for proof.

As stated earlier I had a great experience with Zaino over Mequiars and was sharing it.

I could give a rats azz what you use, if your happy with it, drink up.

Later

First off, Zaino is not a wax, it is a polish.

Could someone please tell me the difference between the two (wax vs polish).

I thought "polish" ment that the product contained a fine abrasive. However Zaino is marketed as not containing any abrasives.

Thanks.

Tophog, can you sub out the JD for Wild Turkey?:grd:

Could someone please tell me the difference between the two (wax vs polish).

I thought "polish" ment that the product contained a fine abrasive. However Zaino is marketed as not containing any abrasives.

Thanks.Here is what I found out:
"
What's the difference between an ordinary Polish and a Wax?
Polishes are paint cleaners that generally use abrasives or chemicals to remove paint that has been discoloured by impurities and oxidization. zymol Cleaner Wax™ uses superior micro-fine cleaners to remove unsightly scratches and oxidization while leaving behind a simple and effective Beeswax protection.

Ordinary cleaner/waxes contain many of the same abrasives and chemicals that polishes do with the addition of silicones or solvent resins to mask scratches and imitate what a "real" wax should do. Real wax, like the waxes of the zymol 2-step process are non-abrasive and non-solvent, highly reflective and protective coatings for your paint.
HD-Cleanse, the first step of the zymol 2-step process, provides deep cleaning without removing precious paint, restores valuable oils to the paint, eliminates fine scratches and creates an incredible high gloss not possible with ordinary polishes or waxes.

For your everyday car you will see dramatic differences if you use zymol Hand-Crafted Waxes and Glazes. Your special car will be transformed if you use zymol HD-Cleanse. For maximum protection, use zymol waxes to complete the zymol process. "

Another quote:
" What is the difference between a wax and a polish?
Nearly all products in the market whether called "wax" or "polish" contain polishing agents. Polishing agents remove paint and create swirl marks on the painted surface. Fine polishing agents create fine swirl marks and remove less paint. The swirl marks become very visible after the wax wears off. "

Some more info:
" If you look in Webster's Dictionary under the word polish, one of the definitions they include reads like this:

"A preparation that is used to produce gloss, and often color for the protection and decoration of a surface."

Another definition found in Webster's Dictionary for polish is,

"To make smooth and glossy by friction." "


LATER!

Looks like someone found out what a few of us already knew -

Polish is not a good thing - swirl marks "not good" maybe that's why they push the layered look...

I don't know about anyone else but I can think of lots of things I'd rather be doin' than layering polish on my big a$$ truck - over and over and over and over to hide the swirl marks caused by the effect ... :muahaha:

where do you get this Zaino's stuff you are all talking about Advance Auto Parts is now carrying Zaino on the shelf.

Looks like someone found out what a few of us already knew -

Polish is not a good thing - swirl marks "not good" maybe that's why they push the layered look...


Wrong again!


Zaino polish has NO abrasives.

You really should read about the product so you would at least have a clue:muahaha:

Polish is usually a good thing. The reason for the abrasives is to help remove swirls by rounding the edges of the scratches in the clear coat.

A very good polish is by a German company called Menzerna. They claim fame by saying that the abrasives are so small and uniform that overall result is very good.

You then have to follow up with a glaze/wax etc. This still fills the scratches and thereby hides them when you look at the car.

Zaino does not approach scratches in the above manner. They fill them in with Z5...yet they call it a polish...no abrasives. They key here is Zaino's formula claims that the bond on Z5 is strong and last a long time...hence no scratches 'reappear'...yet they are still there.

The only way to remove scratches is to buff the clear coat down below the depth of the scratch. IF the scratch is to the paint...then you are out of luck.

Since I did not know squat about all this terminology when I bought by black DMAX...I promptly washed it and...scratched the hell out of it by using cheap rags.

Now I just use Zaino and 'forget about it'. Oh yes...do not make my mistake...wash and dry your car with 100% cotton USA towels to be safe.

I've used SS Nathans Liquid Brilliance for several years. I first bought it at a local FBO..they were using it on airplanes.

It's non-abrasive, and goes on and off real easy.

It is hard to find, but you can find it online.

People can knock Zaino for being mail order, expensive, time consuming etc. Some probably sensed I may have been trying to degrade Zaino in previous posts which was not my intention.

However the truth of the matter is Zaino is an excellent product regardless of these characteristics, probably one of, if not the best I have ever used. As I indicated in one of my previous posts it is by far the best product I have ever tried. Yes, I did spend a weekend putting it on but I just detailed my truck for only the 2nd time since owning it and it still looks new.

I just detailed it for the 2nd time 2 weeks ago using the new Meguiers NXT stuff and it does looks great. Better then Zaino? ...I don't think so. Just my initial observation. Will it last longer then Zaino? Ask me a year from now. I was able to detail my truck using the clay bar and new NXT wax in one day verses 2 however.

IMO the Zaino thing is like anything else ...you get what you pay for and the results are also directly related to how much effort you put forth into detailing a rig. Excellent results don't come cheap as with anything in life. And since there the subject is so debatable as seen here, the result is we have 200+ car polish/wax products available today ...just like toothpaste or anything else you buy. FYI ... I use $1.99 on my camp trailer :)

I agree with 1999 Cobra and not with Nate/Zaino freaks. Got 3 kids, 4 cars, and spent a lot of years not only detailing them but talking with a lot of detailers (both ends of the "detailer" spectrum). Lots of folks swear by the very expensive Zaino stuff but when you want to wax a truck/car 4-6 times a year (anyone who wants to keep "layering" it needs help for starters because you can only get so much wax to bond to itself) my preference is the Meguires brazilian hi tech 26 for 2 coats only and then only after thoroughly working all the rust/blemishes off in minute detail with clay. Give it about 3 weeks and then mothers paste wax.

I then go back in 2-3 months and re-apply the Meguires. Haven't noticed any "yellowing" on any of the white cars my tribe drives (including a 95 MBZ 500 SL that I will dare anyone to find a single flaw on) because most of the problems occur with bird crap burning (carry diapers and meguires finishing spray in each and every car), using certain polishes (to include 3M which does in fact have abrasives), etc.

For what it is worth, I bought this 99 Z-71 new and it has been waxed 2 times it's entire life - now has 117,000 miles and sat outside for the first 3 years of it's life while I lived in an appartment. Once when it was about 2 years old by a local body shop that has several custom show cars painted black - I knew they knew how to take care of black - I don't know what products they used to do it with. The other time it was waxed was about 2 years ago when my buddy finally talked me into doing it - but only after he did his black Tahoe and I inspected it to see how it turned out. I have always been affraid of waxing it because black is soo easy to scratch or get swirls in. Over about 4 days I clay-bared it and waxed with Zymol. The truck is filthy right now with road film and needs washed bad, but you can still see that it looks good. When it is washed a detailed you can honestly park it beside a new black truck and cannot tell a difference in paint. I have only washed it with sheepskin mits - I use one for the upper body (from door trim up) and another for lower body (from door trim down). It has never been through an auto carwash that touches the paint and has literally NEVER had a shoe touch the carpet. Yeah, you can say I have been anal about it. Guess I am just saying the Zymol does good by me.

I agree with 1999 Cobra and not with Nate/Zaino freaks. Got 3 kids, 4 cars, and spent a lot of years not only detailing them but talking with a lot of detailers (both ends of the "detailer" spectrum). Lots of folks swear by the very expensive Zaino stuff but when you want to wax a truck/car 4-6 times a year (anyone who wants to keep "layering" it needs help for starters because you can only get so much wax to bond to itself).........
Sorry you just dont understand.

I have walls full of trophies and plaques from car shows, usually placing in the top 3 so I know a thing or two about "detailing".

I Zaino my Vette, once a year, which is not only our daily driver but is also a show car. My Duramax also gets a coat of Zaino ONLY once a year.

If you like Meguiars then more power to you, they make a good wax.

But unless you have used Zaino on your vehicles then you have no right to knock it.

I'm done here:rant:

NUMBER 9 - LOOKING GOOD:thumb:

I have used all types, and names of waxes and polishes including Zaino on my black vehicles over the years. I can only come to one conclusion...... all black vehicles get swirl marks and small scratches and nothing will take them out. Except super fine wet sanding and a good buffer and someone who knows how to use it. I have yet to see one without the small swirl marks even at the car shows.

;)

I'm done here:rant:
We can only hope ...

Machoosh;

One suggestion may be to look at what goes on at Concours D' Elegance at Pebble Beach where their "real" money is where their mouth is. You will find nobody with an "I heart Zaino" sign sticking out or people selling the stuff. They play for keeps there and many of the cars competing are not new vette's and the like so they can't afford to hermetically seal their paint with a polish (which Zaino is; it's not a wax). Many people like Zaino so to each his own but most of the expensive stuff up there is prepped with Mothers and couldn't care less about winning a plaque from a 4H club competition.

It's easy to win a trophy when there's only three cars in the show and the other two belong to Uncle Willicker and Mr. Greenjeans... :muahaha: :p:

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Who's Mr. GreenJeans?

Who's Mr. GreenJeans?Captian Kangaroo's side kick!

Oh, ok. I liked Mr. Greenjeans!
Bk, nice rig. BK I guess you do need a good wax up there in MA. Did I mention Collinite earlier? The stuff is $15 a pop but it keeps the water spots off. I heard about this stuff on another forum last year and it's worth the extra cost. A detailer told me about it when I had to figure out a way to keep the bugs from LA off the front of my rig. That was a mess. One bug is equal to one medium tomato. Get the picture? Bike builder, eh?

Shadow

It's easy to win a trophy when there's only three cars in the show and the other two belong to Uncle Willicker and Mr. Greenjeans... :muahaha: :p:You really dont have a clue do you?

Here is a shot from the '04 World of Wheels show. Took Best in Class, along with the Vipers, Cobra's, Jag's all 2 seaters. Most shows I am at, I am up against 100's of other garage and trailer queens. This is a 7 year old, 55K+ mile daily driver, rain, snow, sleet, hail, its seen it all.

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/c5nate//wow-small_our_c5.jpg


Local Mall show 75 other Corvettes in the show. That is a year old Zaino shine on the car at time.

http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/c5nate//mall_show.jpg

Oh, ok. I liked Mr. Greenjeans!
Bk, nice rig. BK I guess you do need a good wax up there in MA. Did I mention Collinite earlier? The stuff is $15 a pop but it keeps the water spots off. I heard about this stuff on another forum last year and it's worth the extra cost. A detailer told me about it when I had to figure out a way to keep the bugs from LA off the front of my rig. That was a mess. One bug is equal to one medium tomato. Get the picture? Bike builder, eh?

ShadowThanks. Not sure what wax my detailer uses):h I just wash it.
Rider, not a builder in the custom sence. But I do all my own and my friends work, top to bottom and everything inbetween. We manufacture precision electrical components. ie Male/Female quick connect terminals, track lighting parts, thermostat components, and other metal stampings. www.bktool.net (http://www.bktool.net)

I have used all types, and names of waxes and polishes including Zaino on my black vehicles over the years. I can only come to one conclusion...... all black vehicles get swirl marks and small scratches and nothing will take them out. Except super fine wet sanding and a good buffer and someone who knows how to use it. I have yet to see one without the small swirl marks even at the car shows.

;)

My father has used 3m's machine glaze and that works pretty good on the swirls.

The dude that comes to my office each thrursday to wash my truck waxes it every 3 months. I am not sure what type wax he uses (maybe the green turtle ):h for all I care), but it looks shiney and I haven't noticed any swirls. But then again...I have not lost sight that it is a diesel truck and not a show car. :rant:

[QUOTE=HD-Nate]You really dont have a clue do you?

Nate -

You need to calm down brother, it's joking, kidding and playing around, I don't even know you - you have great looking cars and I'm sure you have numerous trophies and as stated all well deserved for sure...

I can see your getting real annoyed and I don't want you havin' a meltdown on us - so from me to you I'm just a kiddin' with ya' your cars look awesome, good luck in your next show... I'm glad you love Zaino happy trails...:D

The dude that comes to my office each thrursday to wash my truck waxes it every 3 months. I am not sure what type wax he uses (maybe the green turtle ):h for all I care), but it looks shiney and I haven't noticed any swirls. But then again...I have not lost sight that it is a diesel truck and not a show car. :rant:Man you guys in Texas live good! I asked my wife to wash my truck once. Got shot at. Mean woman. Mean woman.

:chillpill taken!

try nano wax, by eagle one. i have a 2004 black dodge 3500, its the best i have ever found. use the micro cloths to remove it and polish it.:grd:

can any tell me if there is any company that is making aftermarket wheels, for dodge duallys?

I can't believe I actually read all that!! :) Anyway, my .02 is 3m as the prep for cleaning and getting the paint ready for wax. Then Collinite Insulator wax for waxing. I have been detailing going on 17 years and this has always produced the best shine and quality no matter the color.

I always try new things to see if someone has come up with a better product. SO far as my own personal testing most waxes off the shelf are 4-6 weeks, 8 weeks if garaged in lasting. The combination I have used is every 6 months, give or take a month depending on the use of salt and number of washes in Western Massachusetts. :D

Glad to hear of some products that I have never heard about before, gives me something else to compare my process too.

Thanks all for the insightfull thoughts and honest opinions.

:blahblah:
Oh yeah one more thought, you can't wax a vehicle and get it clean and waxed in one step. The cleaner or polish is typically used to prep the surface to accept a wax. A good wax will normally do just that, just wax. If you don't clean the old wax off once in a while the paint can't breath etc. Polish is a shiner, it shines and gets the surface glossy wet like, a wax will capture it and retain that gloss. Again my couple of pennies.... the end of the :rant: :)

(The opinions expressed in this thread are solely those of the writer, there were no Chevys, GMCs, or animals harmed in the making of and research done in determining wax longevity. Most testing was performed on other makes of vehicles)

I have a 02 duramax and spent three months off and on this winter trying different things to get that shine back. Finally settled on Menzerna Intensive polish applied with a dual action buffer than Menzerna glaze and finally a product made by menzerna call FMJ or full metal jacket. The truck looks better than it did the day I drove it home new will post some picks tomorrow. Go to properautocare.com not only do they sell you the product but they tell you how to use it. what I have discovered is its not so much the wax or paint sealer but the prep work you do before the final wax , polish , paint sealent whether that be clay polish compound etc... And Stay away from car washes or you will find out as did I that three years later all the scratches in my clear coat really make the truck look like sh...t!!!!! and it only took me three months to figure out how to get them out and a few hundred dollars later.

Bergeros that was funny. What was the name of that wax again?
I use cotton baby diapers to get the Collinite off. Found towel's to make too many swirls and crap. Pretty cheap too.

Shadow, Collinite is the wax...and yes baby diapers work great. The trick to removing Collinite is don't try to take it all off at once. Just go over everything once lightly and then start over with the baby diaper. You will find it comes off a lot faster and easier. Oh yeah and do it when there is no humidity. The polish was a 3m product, they since stopped making it and I am working on the reserve jugs that I had purchased. (yes i said jugs!!) :muahaha:

Anyway, the latest polish that I found to work nicely was from Cali. PM me if you want the brand and contact info, the guys were great to deal with. I don't want to get out of the leather chair to check in the garage to see the exact name....sorry 10 degrees out. ):h Nice to see others have found Collinite...good stuff. I know that when all the customers remark as to how long the wax lasts on tehir vehicle, and that they can't duplicate it etc... oh well keeps me in business!! :grd:

Scott

Blaze glaze boys it is awesome but get her clean first

[B]Too cold for me! It's going to be 63' today. Wife has been in Columbia, SC for some lawyer stuff so guess who got to take the week off? Bright sun! Warm weather! Cold Beer! Slapped on the Collinite! Life is good! I like Jugs!
Shadow

Liquid Glass . Try this and you won't go back to the others. www.liquidglass.com
Goes on quick, and wipes off effortlessy. Then you put it out in the sun to bake it on. I've been using it since 1987 and haven't found anything that compares.

can't believe this thread's still going!! wow!! must be a record.:ro)

It's an educational thread! Ya! That's the ticket!
:exactly:

Anybody every tried waxes and polishes from Griots Garage? I keep getting catalogs but never bought anything. A little pricey. Curious if its worth the money. Maybe they market the crap out of it, cause i've never heard anyone talk about it. Only the catalog i get every couple months.
Chris

Shadow, hope you got the chores done!! Glad to hear you were waxing with the beer, makes the wax go on and off effortless!! :lol: Hey I PM'ed the link to the detailsupply house I get some stuff from. I liked the polish compound that I linked you too. Ignore the wax part, just add the Collinite afterward, it is sooo easy!! :grd:

Chrisms, never heard of them....sorry.

Chris, it wouldn't be a bad thing to look into. I wouldn't have found out about Collinite Wax if it hadn't been from reading it on the net. Can't get it down south but I tried it, and very satisfied.

Anyone try that new Dupont teflon wax/finish? Just picked up a bottle today, waiting for the next car wash to apply it.

Well , After using the NXT on my truck I thought I would show all you folks the results...
Myself , I thought it was easy to apply and easy to remove .. It made my black truck look great And it also got rid of the "spider web" scratches you see in direct sunlight . Oh yea , it smells good too !!
Also Attached a close up of my H2 wheels with factory center caps ...

Enjoy

Black04HD, Looks great, where do you get your mud flaps?

Cheers

Anybody ever tried Diamondite products???? Supposed to be very good(per them).
Found their add in a Prof Dist. magazine.
I'm awaiting a call back from them to obtain a sample of their product. When it comes and I try it, I'll let you know.
Mark

Thunderhead7 ,

I got them from the dealer . they are the factory ones ..I think I paid 80.00 bucks for them but I am not certain.. Memory seems to be slipping these days ...Nice thing about them , No holes to drill. They pick up existing ones ..

Ok great, I saw some advertised from one of the sponsers here and they looked the same as yours, now I need to find them again. Kennedy Diesel has some nice ones. Thanks again, your trucks looks great.

Cheers, Stephen

anyone use turtle wax ? its for sale everywhere here in saskathewan. think i'm gonna try it today.

Mach, that avatar just kills me!
Ahahahahah!