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Coles_D/A
02-10-2005, 10:37 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=90969&item=4526928970&rd=1

Wow thats big!!! And look it has a body lift I wonder where the hell he got that???

hoot
02-10-2005, 10:49 PM
THIS TRUCK IS STILL COVER UNDER THE FULL FACTORY BUMPER TO BUMPER WARRANTY

3:73 gears and 44" tires

Something wrong with this picture.

Beautiful show truck

MrsSpoolin
02-10-2005, 10:52 PM
15" and 44's? I'd need more than a step bar...lol

chaps
02-11-2005, 12:27 AM
Beautiful show truck - I dunno about that, truck doesn't look that clean, no shaved moldings, no-name white shocks, black plastic flares, handles etc. and a bug-flector!! Its just a stock truck with a big lift and a body lift -:t . needs a SFA and to ditch the body lift. and go up a couple more inches of lift. Ive always loved that front end tho, I wish chevy would bring it back!

NorCal 2500HD
02-11-2005, 12:49 AM
oh the chp would have a field day with that in cali......decent truck though

mahalkita
02-11-2005, 01:31 AM
32k miles on that old truck? I am wondering why its being sold! The problem with that kind of lift kits is severe stress to all kinds of components (tranny, gears....) Its only for show and impossible to drive for daily use....no need to have High End Stereo driving faster than 30 MPH nobody can hear it anyway......
They really try to sell a 3 or more years old truck for a brand new truck price....

:lol:

chaps
02-11-2005, 02:03 AM
The problem with that kind of lift kits is severe stress to all kinds of components (tranny, gears....) Its only for show and impossible to drive for daily use
Do u honestly think that turning those tires puts more stress on the drivetrain than towing a 10,000# trailor or doing a a nice little burnout or boosted launch?? It is nowhere close to that kind of stress. That is in no way shape or form a show truck! impossible to drive on a daily basis.........how so??? It isn't a longer truck than it was stock, maybe a couple inches wider and a bit less turning radius. I admit that for someone who hasn't driven or ridden a truck like that it takes a bit of getting used to, but after a few weeks of adjusting, once you hop (or climb) into the drivers seat its not that different. Although driving a lifted truck gives you a much better view of whats going on. Lets put it this way, I had a built 99 acura integra GSR/turbo/intercooler/etc. and I would much rather drive my truck through traffic than the integra, parking is another story tho........

aka108
02-11-2005, 09:40 AM
Useless

CODiesel
02-11-2005, 09:47 AM
Do u honestly think that turning those tires puts more stress on the drivetrain than towing a 10,000# trailor or doing a a nice little burnout or boosted launch?? It is nowhere close to that kind of stress. That is in no way shape or form a show truck! impossible to drive on a daily basis.........how so??? It isn't a longer truck than it was stock, maybe a couple inches wider and a bit less turning radius. I admit that for someone who hasn't driven or ridden a truck like that it takes a bit of getting used to, but after a few weeks of adjusting, once you hop (or climb) into the drivers seat its not that different. Although driving a lifted truck gives you a much better view of whats going on. Lets put it this way, I had a built 99 acura integra GSR/turbo/intercooler/etc. and I would much rather drive my truck through traffic than the integra, parking is another story tho........ Good Point!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

supatrucka
02-11-2005, 09:52 AM
Good to drive over ricer's. dave

weaverism
02-11-2005, 10:28 AM
32k miles on that old truck? I am wondering why its being sold! The problem with that kind of lift kits is severe stress to all kinds of components (tranny, gears....) Its only for show and impossible to drive for daily use....no need to have High End Stereo driving faster than 30 MPH nobody can hear it anyway......
They really try to sell a 3 or more years old truck for a brand new truck price....

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gifI have a 1984 GMC K3500 with a 454 engine that has 44" super swamper and a 15" lift that I lifted in 1989 and it was driven daily until 1999. Now I use it for a farm truck to spray crops with. The sprayer weighs about 6500 lbs. loaded and then I bounce it across a field all day long. It is as reliable as any truck I ever had. Except for the extra leaf springs that I added to carry the weight of the sprayer, 1 radiator, a carb, an alternator and two starters in 190,000 miles it has been trouble free. If you build them right there is no reason that these lifted trucks are not as drivable and reliable as a stock truck. It still has the factory u-joints in it! The only reason I don't drive a truck that big everyday anymore is because I am too old to act like a teenager without people thinking I'm an idiot. If you never drove one I can understand how you would think that they are impossible to drive but you could not be more mistaken. There is no reason that if built PROPERLY that a big lifted truck can't be reliable, drivable and useable as any other vehicle. They are not nearly as top heavy as they look.

mahalkita
02-11-2005, 10:54 AM
I understand what youre saying and I am sure you are right! The problem when you buy from others (especially ebay without seeing the truck other than a picture) there is a big chance that the other person who built it has not done it right, or he really abused it - so why take that risk!

Did your truck also had 44 inch boggers?
Yes you are also right that for a teen that would be a cool truck - my son would love it, but like you also said - some of us are out of that age.......

:exactly:

NorCal 2500HD
02-11-2005, 11:43 AM
show truck.......
http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=484737&posted=1#post484737

whityinfl
02-11-2005, 12:57 PM
How much do you want to bet those miles aren't actual! He has the escalade guages...so who know what type of miles are on the truck. It wouldn't be that hard to put a 100,000 miles on a truck....then sell it to a place like this and put in a new cluster. Not sure if the owner did the swap before selling or this place trying to get a couple extra bucks.

It is a pretty clean truck...but not a show truck!

neverenuf
02-11-2005, 01:06 PM
-:t :phatyo:

weaverism
02-11-2005, 01:39 PM
I understand what youre saying and I am sure you are right! The problem when you buy from others (especially ebay without seeing the truck other than a picture) there is a big chance that the other person who built it has not done it right, or he really abused it - so why take that risk!

Did your truck also had 44 inch boggers?
Yes you are also right that for a teen that would be a cool truck - my son would love it, but like you also said - some of us are out of that age.......

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/exactly.gifYou are right about buying from someone else. I would build that truck quite a bit differently if I were doing it myself. I would not take the chance of buying a truck off of ebay unless it was dirt cheap. I'm sure you can get a fine vehicle there but it's not for me. I don't like gambling. It is a nice LOOKING truck though. A fine show truck. My truck has the standard Super swampers. The boggers stick out too far past the fenders to suit the local cops. I am probably going to get a set of the skinny 11.00 x 38" boggers to drive throgh soybeans to spray as those pizza cutter tires won't smash as many beans. My truck is strictly used as a sprayer now as I am too lazy to take it off and on all the time. It does seem like a waste of what used to be a beautiful truck but it does make one kick ass sprayer. Before I dumped 50k on this duramax I was tempted to get one of those H1 hummer body kits and put it on the one ton drivetrain. How many kids have their dad show up for little league in a bright red Hummer with 44's? But the wife told me to grow up and now I act my age;) .

BROKER
02-11-2005, 01:45 PM
WHY ? Someone Ruined a good truck............:badidea:

weaverism
02-11-2005, 01:49 PM
How much do you want to bet those miles aren't actual! He has the escalade guages...so who know what type of miles are on the truck. It wouldn't be that hard to put a 100,000 miles on a truck....then sell it to a place like this and put in a new cluster. Not sure if the owner did the swap before selling or this place trying to get a couple extra bucks.

It is a pretty clean truck...but not a show truck!What I want to know is how many guys actually do the cluster swap thing. Does anyone ever check the mileage with a scanner or something? I thought the mileage was stored in several places on these trucks to avoid tampering. Seems like an easy way to extend a warranty until they lock you up for odometer tampering. I wouldn't mind switching to an escalade cluster myself but if they check and my mileage is off 5,000 miles I don't want a huge fine just so my dash looks cool. I have to sell this thing sometime.

burbanman
02-11-2005, 02:11 PM
What I want to know is how many guys actually do the cluster swap thing. Does anyone ever check the mileage with a scanner or something? I thought the mileage was stored in several places on these trucks to avoid tampering. Seems like an easy way to extend a warranty until they lock you up for odometer tampering. I wouldn't mind switching to an escalade cluster myself but if they check and my mileage is off 5,000 miles I don't want a huge fine just so my dash looks cool. I have to sell this thing sometime.


You are correct, you CAN check vehicle milage in the ECM with a tech 2 or with most PC based auto scan tools. I personlly use ATAP and EFI Live and you can read milage in the ECM with them both. Simple truth is, most people just dont bother to check

Diesels Forever
02-11-2005, 02:45 PM
OMG. Take that IFS. Something tells me GM didn't intend on that much stress on the IFS setup.

How about a few more shocks? 16 now, no wonder they're the generic ones, imagine buying 16 Bilisteins, ouch.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif I would still cruise it. It looks cool, not very functional, but cool none the less.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/rockon.gif

8100HD
02-12-2005, 09:31 AM
I just noticed something. In the closeup pictures of the interior you can see the outside of the doors, and it looks like there are aqua flames. There other pictures the truck is solid black and the description doesn't say anything about custom paint. I though it was just a reflection, but it is too even and clear, plus it is in several pictures that are taken at different angles.

chaps
02-12-2005, 10:53 AM
yea under other options he lists - Custom Vynil Graphics(removeable)
funny that he would have taken the interior shots while they were still on and then removed them to take the truck pictures, would of gave it more of a custom look and he could have left it up to the buyer to decide if thet wanted them on or off.

Good eye - 8100HD

8100HD
02-14-2005, 10:08 AM
OK, didn't see where he had the graphics listed in the options. I guess I had a good eye for the pics but not so much in the written description.

Hardcore
02-14-2005, 01:27 PM
I have a 1984 GMC K3500 with a 454 engine that has 44" super swamper and a 15" lift that I lifted in 1989 and it was driven daily until 1999. Now I use it for a farm truck to spray crops with. The sprayer weighs about 6500 lbs. loaded and then I bounce it across a field all day long. It is as reliable as any truck I ever had. Except for the extra leaf springs that I added to carry the weight of the sprayer, 1 radiator, a carb, an alternator and two starters in 190,000 miles it has been trouble free. If you build them right there is no reason that these lifted trucks are not as drivable and reliable as a stock truck. It still has the factory u-joints in it! The only reason I don't drive a truck that big everyday anymore is because I am too old to act like a teenager without people thinking I'm an idiot. If you never drove one I can understand how you would think that they are impossible to drive but you could not be more mistaken. There is no reason that if built PROPERLY that a big lifted truck can't be reliable, drivable and useable as any other vehicle. They are not nearly as top heavy as they look.
An 84 wll have a Dana 60 solid axle up front and a 14 bolt out back which is what a lot of rock crawlers run. I'm sure you haven't had any problems. This is an IFS truck though which is very different as far as strength. I think a 15" IFS lift is :badidea:

Loki_nine
02-14-2005, 03:04 PM
Do u honestly think that turning those tires puts more stress on the drivetrain than towing a 10,000# trailor or doing a a nice little burnout or boosted launch?? Yes, absolutely.
Definitely much additional stress is added by wheels/tires like these.
Different types of stress on different components (ie-wheel bearings, axle flanges, etc...), but lots of unneccesary stress none-the-less.

chaps
02-14-2005, 09:00 PM
Yes, absolutely.
Definitely much additional stress is added by wheels/tires like these.
Different types of stress on different components (ie-wheel bearings, axle flanges, etc...), but lots of unneccesary stress none-the-less.you gotta be kidding me.......more stress than pulling a grade with a 10,000 + trailor?? Like your "green keys" are helping out your wheel bearings, CV's, etc. It doesn't take a big lift to stress those kind of components out.

Wolford
02-14-2005, 11:55 PM
It is an ugly truck. Too long and the tires look to big for the truck. either needs more lift or a change in tires size.

Oh yea that has to be the ugliest body style Chevy has ever had. I would not drive that rig at 60 mph down the highway(not with IFS) hit big pot hole and think of all the leverage that impact would have a the frame and other components. It is like adding a 25 inch pry bar and then X by 20 or so(physics impact bs).

chaps
02-15-2005, 01:28 AM
I would not drive that rig at 60 mph down the highway(not with IFS) hit big pot hole and think of all the leverage that impact would have a the frame and other components. It is like adding a 25 inch pry bar and then X by 20 or so(physics impact bs).
WOW how did you come up with that?? most IFS lifts just relocate/drop the factory suspension and differential (4wd of course) so where is the increased leverage coming from? I would tow at 60 mph with that truck and not worry, I admit id rather have a D60 up front if I was running those tires but im sure it works better than alot of you guys are thinking. Mine isn't quite as big but.....

http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/destroythesand/165757.jpg

And I tow at 70MPH none the less drive at 70MPH with it :muahaha:

Road Boss
02-15-2005, 07:07 AM
Nice looking GMC!

DURAPONTIMAX
02-15-2005, 03:06 PM
Can you say "Lumber Wagon"):h

NorCal 2500HD
02-15-2005, 04:18 PM
nice clean truck......

ratlover
02-15-2005, 04:53 PM
its a show truck. if you wheel a ifs truck with that big of tires you will tear stuff up. Yes a properly built truck can run 40" tires. If you want something with big tires other than a parking lot queen you better ditch the IFS.

chaps
02-15-2005, 07:03 PM
its a show truck. if you wheel a ifs truck with that big of tires you will tear stuff up. Yes a properly built truck can run 40" tires. If you want something with big tires other than a parking lot queen you better ditch the IFS.LOL I don't see how its a show truck, what kind of shows do u guys go to?? but then again I don't see how alot of guys buy a diesel and never tow with it. I dunno about that black one, but my truck (the blue one) is no parking lot queen, I do daily drive it to school, tow our 30ftWW wbuggy + toys on the higway on my way to the desert, but once im there its unhitched I use it to get me up to drags (usually followed by a few runs down the sand drags), cruise the small dunes, get me to the hill at night, rescue and tow broken bikes/buggies/FURDS-:t etc. Then I hitch the trailor back up and haul it all back home. I have broken a couple rims (nothing to do with lift, poor machining on Weld Wheels part). But other than that I replaced the upper ball joints once with 30,000 miles on the truck. Unless you have personal experience, good or bad, with big IFS trucks I don't really want to hear ur $.02 :muahaha:

roguedriver
02-15-2005, 11:37 PM
SWEEEEET frame! NOT! -:t Too bad you can't take it off road cause of lack of ground clearence. Well, maybe a dirt road....

PremierLandscaping
02-16-2005, 09:42 AM
I have a question.... Wouldnt the FRAME on that big LONG truck TWIST when you go offroading and when your bouncing around?

I know this is mainly a chevy site, but those new ram powerwagons look like they'd be fun to go offroad with.

weaverism
02-16-2005, 03:42 PM
An 84 wll have a Dana 60 solid axle up front and a 14 bolt out back which is what a lot of rock crawlers run. I'm sure you haven't had any problems. This is an IFS truck though which is very different as far as strength. I think a 15" IFS lift is http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/badidea.gif So do I!

chaps
02-16-2005, 08:27 PM
Its not 15" IFS, its a 12 inch IFS and a 3" body lift 12+3=15. Big IFS has come a long way in the last few years and addressed alot of the problems that the early kits had (weak structural integrity, bad torsion bar angles, weak stock ball joints, steering, etc. etc.) There are 12" kits out there that are way stronger and structurally sound than some 6" kits. Unless you need tons of articulation it will work for ALOT of people. I was considering a SFA, and hope to do one in the future (for a bit more lift) and expected my IFS to wear out (because just like on this post, people with no personal experience are making false statments) but what do u know, its been holding up great!!!