: First Tow with LMM.... issues
REDFLYER401 04-27-2008, 02:10 AM :(Yesterday I was taking my 26ft enclosed with my race car inside from Tennessee to Florida. The trip was going well until I hit the orlando area. I currently have a 2008 2500 CC DMax with PPE level 2, MBRP filter back and S&B air kit. The check engine light came on so I immediately pulled the code with the insight and it showed P2563, once this happened the truck was regening every 20 minutes and the soot mass never was below 30 on the insight. 15 minutes later the message appeared in the read out ENGINE POWER REDUCED. I then pulled the codes again and now it had another, P244. On top of that now the filter stopped regen and was up to 90 on the insight. I had to limp the truck 100 miles at 40-50 becuase road side would not tow my trailer. They told me to disconnect it!!! I explained that I could not do that so that is why I went a hundred miles. I made it to my destination and brought it to the dealer and of course they cant do anything until monday. I was wondering if anyone has had an issue like this and what should I do? I was wondering if the dealer will fix it or say its because of the exhaust or the PPE. I did return it to stock but I know they can see when the PCM was flashed. I have decided to get rid of the DPF when I get it back and need advice on that. Towing almost a full load and it was regening alot. It kills gas mileage when it regens. Any info would be helpful.
NelsonDiesel 04-27-2008, 03:09 AM 2563 is a turbo issue.
p244 i dunno, maybe missing a number or letter?
your mbrp is well within legal limits so don't even sweat about that...
Don't bother mentioning the tuner.... it may just sidetrack them from the real problem. Not many techs will actually go in there and look at your history...
Just bring it in, explain what happened and let them do there deal
Bryce418 04-27-2008, 03:30 AM those are probably both directly caused by the tuner and the dealer probably can't help you out very much as far as repairs under warranty. I had a truck come in our shop with pretty much the same issues, the soot load had gotten to 90 grams and was banging the 244b code. a service regen may get the truck running again but they may need to reprogram the ecm to get it to accept the service regen with the 244b set.
Bryce
squaredaway2 04-27-2008, 10:33 AM I posted in the past with the same thing.
No need to limp for 100 miles.
Bring your programmer with you.
Return to stock mode.
Reset the code and off you go.
It will do it again just keep resetting it and take off. It sucks having to stop every 1/4 mile but eventually it will clear up.
I tried doing 2 regens myself and it would not help it.
I now run the quad on economy and pull my 40 ft fith and no problems.
I have not got around to removing my DPF yet.
If your running a tune bring your tunner with you at all times.
NelsonDiesel 04-27-2008, 01:20 PM those are probably both directly caused by the tuner and the dealer probably can't help you out very much as far as repairs under warranty. I had a truck come in our shop with pretty much the same issues, the soot load had gotten to 90 grams and was banging the 244b code. a service regen may get the truck running again but they may need to reprogram the ecm to get it to accept the service regen with the 244b set.
Bryce
nice !
I still haven't had one come in with a dpf failure....
In fact i have only seen one with dpf problem... kinked line....
1 BAD 6.6 04-27-2008, 01:28 PM 2563 is a turbo issue.
p244 i dunno, maybe missing a number or letter?
your mbrp is well within legal limits so don't even sweat about that...
Don't bother mentioning the tuner.... it may just sidetrack them from the real problem. Not many techs will actually go in there and look at your history...
Just bring it in, explain what happened and let them do there deal
I had 2 pay 4 a dpf cause i had a mbrp filter back on my truck when it did the same thing this guys truck is doing!!cost me 1600 bucks. i should of the then went dpf DELEATE
NelsonDiesel 04-27-2008, 01:34 PM I had 2 pay 4 a dpf cause i had a mbrp filter back on my truck when it did the same thing this guys truck is doing!!cost me 1600 bucks. i should of the then went dpf DELEATE
that doesn't make sense.... The exhaust is "after" the dpf, therefore not altering it in any way.
Sounds like you need to file a small claims case.
1 BAD 6.6 04-28-2008, 10:43 PM that doesn't make sense.... The exhaust is "after" the dpf, therefore not altering it in any way.
Sounds like you need to file a small claims case.
YES i understand this BUT it would of costed me more oney than what it was worth.if u know what i mean
NelsonDiesel 04-28-2008, 11:25 PM YES i understand this BUT it would of costed me more oney than what it was worth.if u know what i mean
i know what ya mean, i'll let it go.
Franklin 04-30-2008, 04:02 PM I had the same exact problem last week. I was going to Ashville from Charleston on I-26. My clean exhaust filter flashed on the computer screen, then my check engine light, then limp mode.
TAKE YOUR CONTROLLER WITH YOU ALL THE TIME. I cancelled the codes and took out my Hypertech which I was using on Stage 3. It took me five tries and an hour and one half pulling my 32 ft. 9000 trailer thru small towns continually resetting my computer before the truck started running again. Hypertech said to take out my K&N filter. They said it messed up the MAF...what ever that is. I put the stock filter back it. Even not pulling my truck was regenerating a lot. Since I put back the stock filter that has almost stopped. My mileage has gone up. Hypertech said I should now be able to tow on Stage 3...but I'm not sure I am that brave. I may just use Stage 1, maybe 2.
Good luck!
Franklin
Lots of posts here discussing K&N oil mist burning onto MAF sensor wire and causing codes.
TXVTX 04-30-2008, 05:23 PM Lots of posts here discussing K&N oil mist burning onto MAF sensor wire and causing codes.
yup, which is why I won't run one with the diesel, all other cars yes.
Bryce418 04-30-2008, 09:10 PM nice !
I still haven't had one come in with a dpf failure....
In fact i have only seen one with dpf problem... kinked line....
I have seen one actually melt down the dpf and doc, but it had gas in the fuel from a service station oops the customer had a recepit that said diesel that wasa pretty big ouch to the tune of about 3+ grand in parts.
Bryce
Bryce418 04-30-2008, 09:12 PM that doesn't make sense.... The exhaust is "after" the dpf, therefore not altering it in any way.
Sounds like you need to file a small claims case.
I tend to agree with StewieTuned here seems like a pretty bs deal plus they should have been able to do a service regen to get it back to a suitable level.
Bryce
pa32rt 05-01-2008, 12:30 AM Basically, if you want to pull a load, you can't run a performance tune with the DPF installed. The regen cycle can't clear soot fast enough. Stock tune or an econ tune can squeak by.
TheDukeHD 05-01-2008, 09:34 AM Basically, if you want to pull a load, you can't run a performance tune with the DPF installed. The regen cycle can't clear soot fast enough. Stock tune or an econ tune can squeak by.
Thats what I was about to ask. My PPE is set on Level 2 right now, so when I pull my boat I am gonna have to set it to Level 1 or this crap will happen ?
REDFLYER401 05-01-2008, 09:52 AM I had the same exact problem last week. I was going to Ashville from Charleston on I-26. My clean exhaust filter flashed on the computer screen, then my check engine light, then limp mode.
TAKE YOUR CONTROLLER WITH YOU ALL THE TIME. I cancelled the codes and took out my Hypertech which I was using on Stage 3. It took me five tries and an hour and one half pulling my 32 ft. 9000 trailer thru small towns continually resetting my computer before the truck started running again. Hypertech said to take out my K&N filter. They said it messed up the MAF...what ever that is. I put the stock filter back it. Even not pulling my truck was regenerating a lot. Since I put back the stock filter that has almost stopped. My mileage has gone up. Hypertech said I should now be able to tow on Stage 3...but I'm not sure I am that brave. I may just use Stage 1, maybe 2.
Good luck!
Franklin
Does the S&B filter cause the same problems as the K&N? Do you remeber what codes came up?
DieselSupraCody 05-01-2008, 01:07 PM no DPF FTW!!!!
pa32rt 05-01-2008, 01:08 PM Thats what I was about to ask. My PPE is set on Level 2 right now, so when I pull my boat I am gonna have to set it to Level 1 or this crap will happen ?
Yes. Unless there is less than level 1?
01Cummins 05-01-2008, 01:49 PM S&B is the same kind of oilled filter as the K&N, I wouldnt run a K&N on my lawn mower. Get rid of the oilled filters, thats why the big companys are getting away from them and going to dry.
LMMKING 05-01-2008, 03:15 PM Thats what I was about to ask. My PPE is set on Level 2 right now, so when I pull my boat I am gonna have to set it to Level 1 or this crap will happen ?
Pulled my 26' Toy hauler (around 9,000lbs loaded) 300 miles last weekend on level 2 without any sort of problem. I was not taking it easy either.
CHV_FRK 05-01-2008, 04:32 PM I've pulled my 13K fifth wheel for 2,000 miles at least with zero issues with my PPE on Level 2.
klaw23 05-02-2008, 02:30 PM my truck did the same thing last weekend. I am running the bullydog pmt. I just pulled over and reset codes and was good for the rest of the day. I did have a problem today tho. I wasnt pulling anything today but my trucks engine light came on and said transmission control module when i checked the codes and wouldnt go into any gear. I shut the truck off and reset the codes and it has been fine ever sense. Anything I should be worried about?
rcpd34 05-04-2008, 07:33 AM Basically, if you want to pull a load, you can't run a performance tune with the DPF installed. The regen cycle can't clear soot fast enough. Stock tune or an econ tune can squeak by.
Yes, this is why all the tuner mfg's say to run their tow level.
Days Chevy 4x4 05-04-2008, 01:38 PM Mine did the same things pulling a 4K # Trailer with Hypertech Stage 3, MBRP DPF Back, Stock Air Filter. Reset to factory, everything was ok. Went back to stage 3 problems came back. I like the extra power tho... Sounds like my DPF needs to go.
Wbs4th 05-05-2008, 12:51 PM My 2008 did the same thing yesterday on stage 3 with Hypertech. No K&N or any aftermarket air intake-just stock. Running a Gibson Cat-Back exaust though. I tow a 37' toy hauler, and luckily I had the programmer with me. Got it home and cleaned out the exaust filter this morning and it seems to be fine. Makes me wonder about Hypertech's response about the K&N though, I dont think that can have anything to do with it. Like you, I am very concerned about towing with the Hypertech installed. Alot of money wasted to not be able to use!!
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