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motohed 04-19-2008, 10:53 PM so i am in the process of installing sc III, 1056, transgo jr. going out clubbing tonight then finishing tomorrow. but anyways my point is my c3s especially and a little on c4s were starting to burn. i have just been running 75 to 100 hp with 35s and about 1000K of tools in the bed for work. So my other point is.. if you are adding power, add to you your tranny!!!!
Thanks MIKE L. for all the tips and pointers on the install!!!!!! YOU DA MAN!!!!
Twister773 04-19-2008, 11:43 PM i expect mine to look a little burned....never limped yet and going to see mr mike friday:)!
Cougar GT-E 04-20-2008, 12:55 AM so i am in the process of installing sc III, 1056, transgo jr. going out clubbing tonight then finishing tomorrow. but anyways my point is my c3s especially and a little on c4s were starting to burn. i have just been running 75 to 100 hp with 35s and about 1000K of tools in the bed for work. So my other point is.. if you are adding power, add to you your tranny!!!!
Thanks MIKE L. for all the tips and pointers on the install!!!!!! YOU DA MAN!!!!
a million pounds of tools! what did you expect?
Twister773 04-20-2008, 01:27 AM lol seriously....its not a freaight train
1LTREATR 04-20-2008, 01:46 AM Im wondering how mine will look. I run the standard PPE on level 5. Stock tranny BUT........I have no fuel rail pressure...my brothers stock duramax keeps up right along side me. I wonder if my clutches will be burnt up at all? shifts fine, never limped
Twister773 04-20-2008, 02:21 AM even without limping...damage can be done...im living proof of that i think...will know for sure friday:)
astieg 04-20-2008, 02:47 AM Im wondering how mine will look. I run the standard PPE on level 5. Stock tranny BUT........I have no fuel rail pressure...my brothers stock duramax keeps up right along side me. I wonder if my clutches will be burnt up at all? shifts fine, never limped
???? :wtf1: ????
Jared Duramax 04-20-2008, 08:08 AM my trans was so fried that when i put it in drive it was just like neutral
LWATSON 04-20-2008, 01:14 PM Im wondering how mine will look. I run the standard PPE on level 5. Stock tranny BUT........I have no fuel rail pressure...my brothers stock duramax keeps up right along side me. I wonder if my clutches will be burnt up at all? shifts fine, never limpedSomethings wrong with your tuner. A standard tuner only has 4 levels so they must have put a 5th level on yours that is stock power.
hhhsharps 04-20-2008, 02:58 PM so i am in the process of installing sc III, 1056, transgo jr. going out clubbing tonight then finishing tomorrow. but anyways my point is my c3s especially and a little on c4s were starting to burn. i have just been running 75 to 100 hp with 35s and about 1000K of tools in the bed for work. So my other point is.. if you are adding power, add to you your tranny!!!!
Thanks MIKE L. for all the tips and pointers on the install!!!!!! YOU DA MAN!!!!
My set up is identical to what you will be doing.....I could not be happier:D. And, when Mike and Sal pulled my C3's out....it had burn spots in 3 different places. Never limped, no noticeable slip or any indication it was going.
gasuout 04-20-2008, 03:13 PM Cant go wrong with Mike L . , Your talking to the best trans guy in the business .
And yes you can have spotted C3's with out limping the truck . Seen it many times .
The newer 6 speeds have some upgrades from factory and dont limp as easy as the 5 speeds did .
Personally I think all the trucks should upgrade the trans period , even stock . Its always a great idea for the life of your trans . Your adding more clutches , more line pressure and cooling , and doing a better converter . Add the bigger trans cooler while your at it too . Doing the Transmission is the best mod for a truck if you ask me.
Its the heart of putting the power to the ground . :thumb:
Johnny
huthuthut 04-20-2008, 05:05 PM :thumb: Johnny
I ran a 450 rwhp tune for only 3500 miles or so and my C3 and C4 clutches were burnt, however I never limped the truck. Damage can be done!
Cant wait to see Twisters clutches :D
Twister773 04-20-2008, 05:54 PM haha...i thought about loading my 500 tune right now but figured i should probably wait...dont want to get trailered down there...and wanna see what my clutches look like even though not limped
huthuthut 04-20-2008, 05:57 PM Lets load identical tunes and see whos faster ):h
Twister773 04-20-2008, 06:02 PM lbz...hands down lol
1LTREATR 04-20-2008, 07:10 PM Dont know if anyone caught it where I said I HAVE LOW RAIL PRESSURE. Of course the clutches could be burnt with no limpage. Even with the PPE one level 5 my brothers stock duramax can keep up if not pass me. My injector pump is bad. Im just curious to see what my clutches look like when I do the whole shin dig. The tuner is in perfect working order.
gasuout 04-20-2008, 07:37 PM Have you shimmed your (PRV)pressure relief valve yet , that is a must .
Change fuel filter at shorter intervals when running tuning also .
A lift pump will help keep the fuel to cp3 , plus there is a kit to help upgrade your cp3 while you have it out if your doing that soon . Make it flow more .
Also heard there is a larger inlet fitting coming out for inlet on cp3's .
Good Luck , Hope you get your rail pressure issue figured out .
Johnny
Hammer 4 04-20-2008, 07:57 PM Dont know if anyone caught it where I said I HAVE LOW RAIL PRESSURE. Of course the clutches could be burnt with no limpage. Even with the PPE one level 5 my brothers stock duramax can keep up if not pass me. My injector pump is bad. Im just curious to see what my clutches look like when I do the whole shin dig. The tuner is in perfect working order.
Hmmm, sumpins wrong...i don't have a problem with rail pressure, and I'm on level 5..is this on a LB7..?
But I'd listen to gas..he knows his stuff................sometimes...:D
whitetrash21 04-20-2008, 11:01 PM cant wait to see mine.... limped 3 times to date ....i can accelerate the motor without accelerating the truck at anything over 50 mph if i lay into it hard enough :HiHi: ..... just for shits and grin i turned the quad all the way up the other day.....4th gear burnouts ****in rock but that horrible vibration from the tc made it feel someone turned a jackhammer on under the seat......
duramaxdriver 04-21-2008, 01:05 AM mine slippes everytime i get on it. .and im giving it a quadzilla stacked with an edge... im just taring the heck out of the stock tranny but its lasted for half a year so far.. but it limps and slips alot
gasuout 04-21-2008, 11:12 AM Amazing how much stock trans will take and keep going . Thats the Alli for ya .
Twister773 04-21-2008, 02:47 PM but that kodiak motor....could use some reinforcing :)
whitetrash21 04-21-2008, 08:25 PM burnt... :D ... ouch. :HiHi:
1LTREATR 04-21-2008, 09:45 PM Yea ive had the low rail pressure problem since ive owned the truck, way before I owned the tuner. Its a LB7. But speaking of stock alli's holding up. A buddy of mine visited last night and he had just came back from jegs with a newly purchased superchips stacked with his edge. I told him to take the superchips out so I could hook up my PPE standard. The truck is a 03 dually CCLB. Of course he wanted to put it on level 5 and he kept his edge on level 5. Im surprised how long the tranny took to limp. We drove around town bellowing smoke all over, holding it to the floor and it worked fine. That is until we got on the freeway about an hour later. He decided to cover a newer vette in soot while we were merging, which triggered the vette driver to get on it to pass up. And sure enough.....the 4-5 upshift and BOOM limped it haha. I am impressed though with how that big truck was hanging with the vette.Buddy already took the superchips back today and is searching for a PPE tuner. And trans.
Hammer 4 04-21-2008, 09:57 PM The 4-5 shift will do it every time...;)
racinmike77 04-22-2008, 01:34 AM my trans was so fried that when i put it in drive it was just like neutral
lol me too, good thing I had reverse to drive home.:eek:
ColbyColorado04 04-22-2008, 01:45 AM If my tranny lasts until its time I can actually afford to do it.(I may be forced to and just have to eat bread and water) I would like to take my truck and see how much the Ally will hold. Just keep adding more and more till it wont hold any more. It has held up to this point 40k miles with over 425RWHP and still keeps tickin.
RENODMAX 04-22-2008, 02:28 AM The 6 speeds definately hold more power than the 5 speeds do. The last trans I took apart was in an 06 LBZ and had 30k miles on it with the PPE 160hp tune on it. The C3 clutches were pretty well glazed and the steels even had heat scoring on them, and this trans had never been limped. My own trans (5 speed) C3's were well toasted, but I knew I was putting my trans in soon so I was mean to it before that, but once again never limped.:D
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yaht... those'r done.
Jared Duramax 04-25-2008, 09:12 AM lol me too, good thing I had reverse to drive home.:eek:
thats all i had was reverse :D
gasuout 04-25-2008, 11:43 AM Thems some nice looking clutches .....
Johnny
racinmike77 04-26-2008, 01:16 AM thats all i had was reverse :D
what clutches did you burn up, i havent tore into mine yet but would like to know what to expect.
Twister773 04-26-2008, 01:58 AM i burnt c3's and 4's as well as the bushing on my pump for the converter or something not sure what but it was toast as well...mike said you dont see that very often and if not caught can ruin converter...got a sc3 from mike today and i cant say enough good stuff about the guy.
gasuout 04-26-2008, 04:17 AM i burnt c3's and 4's as well as the bushing on my pump for the converter or something not sure what but it was toast as well...mike said you dont see that very often and if not caught can ruin converter...got a sc3 from mike today and i cant say enough good stuff about the guy.
Glad to see you got it taken care of , sorry I missed you today couldnt make it down .
Dmax Tim 04-26-2008, 07:34 AM A buddy of mine visited last night and he had just came back from jegs with a newly purchased superchips stacked with his edge.
so do you live in Ohio?
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