: Help JD 2355 wont start.
michaeljp86 04-19-2008, 06:52 PM Anybody know anything on why a JD 2355 wont start? It started fine then was shut off for about 20min and then wouldn't start. The solenoid clicks and that's it, wont turn over. One of the battery posts were hot and I took the cable off and it was very clean and it made no difference. I also tried to jump it but it didn't help any. I don't really know anything about this tractor.
AGGAR 04-19-2008, 10:49 PM You check the key switch? Make sure you're still getting power through there.
michaeljp86 04-19-2008, 11:12 PM There was a wire from the key switch that was unplugged. I hooked it back up and it made no difference. I unplugged the harness from the key and wiggled it to try to get a better connection and it didnt help. Everything looks good and clean.
bighawg 04-19-2008, 11:18 PM This may not help you but we had a 2355 and 2755, sometimes when you tried to crank them they would barley turn over, if we jerked the steering back and forth, to the left then the right the engine would spin over and crank. There is something in the hydraulics that would keep so much pressure built up that the starter would not spin the engine over, when you jerk the wheel back and forth it lets the pressure off and the thing will fire up. This may not be the case with yours but I thought I would throw that out to you. Good luck.
farmer0_1 04-20-2008, 01:53 AM could be several things. most of our older jds have a stick lockout so it must be in neutral before starting and these and the wiring to them go bad on occasion. could be a starter solinoid that is not wanting to work. some get too hot and will only work when cold. a test lite will help. see if power is getting to the solinoid when trying to crank it . if not back thru the wiring to see what happen. is there anything else in the safety stuff ? a switch in the seat or the pto has to be in a certain position.
michaeljp86 04-20-2008, 12:58 PM All the safty switches stop power from the solinoid, the soilinoid is getting power but not wnough to spin the engine over. I pulled both batteries out and have them on charge. I think they are both dead according to the charger gauge but I dont know if it works.
I tried the hydraulic thing bigdawg said and it didnt help. Maybe the alternatot isnt working. The guy said the tractor used to go through batteries all the time and finaly somone fixed it.
farmer0_1 04-20-2008, 02:11 PM my 2040 and other jd's of that era had bosch alt. they are very expensive. so make sure it is the alt before changing it out. i have been installing delco remy alt with alittle work.
michaeljp86 04-20-2008, 03:44 PM my 2040 and other jd's of that era had bosch alt. they are very expensive. so make sure it is the alt before changing it out. i have been installing delco remy alt with alittle work.
The alternator on it has a sticker that says HI-TEC, that was a battery, starter, and alternator repair shop not far from here. The sticker looks maybe 5 years old so Im wondering if the alternator went bad before.
SD-455 04-20-2008, 04:41 PM Remove the battery ground cable from the frame and clean it and the contact area on the frame. Also check the cables to see if they have "bubbles" in them. This is a sign of bad cables. If the starter clicks it means not enough voltage/amps to start. A over charging alt. will cause batteries to fail early. One good 31 series battery will start the tractor in the summer. If you have a top post battery in another tractor or vehicle try it.
michaeljp86 04-20-2008, 06:34 PM I had a bad cable on my jimmy and replaced the starter before I knew it was the cable so I know about the bubbles. I did look for a bubble today but didnt see one. Most of the cables is covered so I cant see anything.
Remove the battery ground cable from the frame and clean it and the contact area on the frame. Also check the cables to see if they have "bubbles" in them. This is a sign of bad cables. If the starter clicks it means not enough voltage/amps to start. A over charging alt. will cause batteries to fail early. One good 31 series battery will start the tractor in the summer. If you have a top post battery in another tractor or vehicle try it.
DMAXMO 04-20-2008, 06:49 PM Have the batteries load tested if you ever get them charged. They must be fully charged to accurately test them. If they won't take charge you have your answer. With known fully charged batteries you can troubleshoot the rest of the starting/charging systems if need be. You could jump start the tractor if you have the batteries back in it but it will take something with some cranking amps to start it. You could also pull start it if it isn't a powershift.
michaeljp86 04-20-2008, 07:53 PM Have the batteries load tested if you ever get them charged. They must be fully charged to accurately test them. If they won't take charge you have your answer. With known fully charged batteries you can troubleshoot the rest of the starting/charging systems if need be. You could jump start the tractor if you have the batteries back in it but it will take something with some cranking amps to start it. You could also pull start it if it isn't a powershift.
I tried to jump it with my jimmy and it didnt work. I jumped a JD 4020 with it before and same jumper cables. I have a battery load tester so Ill have to try that. Pull starting is a problem because its out in a field with a 3 row planter thing on it.
femritet 04-20-2008, 09:01 PM Make sure the 3 point is down.
If you remove the clutch inspection cover and use a prybar to roll the engine over by hand. We just replaced a starter on a 2555 and found out that it was a bad head gasket and one of the cylinders had water in it. Being able to roll the engine over will rule something like this out.
michaeljp86 04-21-2008, 12:25 AM Before I tried to start it today I ran all hydralic levers and steering so there isnt pressure anywhere. I charged one battery and checked it with my load tester and it showed good. The 2nd battery is charging now.
michaeljp86 04-21-2008, 12:58 PM I put batteries in and it did the same thing. I pulled off te hground which was clean and I cleaned it anyways and put it on and nothing.
There was a rubber plug on the transmission I poped off and put a pry bar on the flywheel. I pryed on it and something broke looses and the engine turned easy and then fired up. Drove it back and shut it down and it fired back up. Then I let it site for about 10min and it started back up again just fine.
farmer0_1 04-21-2008, 02:39 PM boy thats a real confidence builder
SD-455 04-21-2008, 03:39 PM I put batteries in and it did the same thing. I pulled off te hground which was clean and I cleaned it anyways and put it on and nothing.
There was a rubber plug on the transmission I poped off and put a pry bar on the flywheel. I pryed on it and something broke looses and the engine turned easy and then fired up. Drove it back and shut it down and it fired back up. Then I let it site for about 10min and it started back up again just fine.
Sounds like the bendix was engaged (stuck) in the flywheel.
michaeljp86 05-31-2008, 12:27 PM Sounds like the bendix was engaged (stuck) in the flywheel.
Happened 2 times now, did it yesterday, looks like if it makes it to winter it will have to be split and replace the flywheel. I heard the flywheel is missing teeth. Im not sure if you can replace just the ring on these or not.
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