I am curious to know what everybody is using to wash the outside of the trucks. The owner manual says not to use dish washing liquid because it drys the paint. I have always used dish washing liquid on my vehicles with no problems. Is there any truth to that?

Dish detergents are special surfactants designed to quickly remove fats and oils from dishes. Good waxes and glazes are made from fats and oils. Dish soap will remove all of your wax protection.

IIRC dishwashing detergent has a very high alkali content. Max is right that it definitely removes wax for sure. Much better off using a product designed for washing cars such as McGuires, Zaino, Mothers or what have you. Edited by: Hound

We in New England dont have to wash our trucks..the acid rain takes everything off !

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The best there is out there.





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Don't use dishwash soap regulary it's much to strong as stated. Actually it makes a good once a year wax stripper. Make sure you rinse very well. This idea is actually from the owner of Zaino wax. He suggests it to remove all old wax, prior to using Zaino.


I use Zip wax mostly but any brand name car wash would do.

Dunno, I'm just glad the automatic carwash near me can take trucks up to 7'. I got room to spare. It's great to sit back and watch the high school kids prewash it and the kids like all the multi colored soap!http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif

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Zaino ...lots of work but well worth it. The Zaino leather conditioner is also the best stuff I've used to date ...and I've tried a bunch.

H2o,sponge and a bucket ....

Mac

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Cheap gallon jugs of blue liquid that is labeled "Car Wash".

What about Ivory liquid, I was told it's not so harsh? I've used it for years and never seemed to notice wax removal. Is it made from the same stuff as other dish soap? It doesn't burn your eyes so I think it might be different but does anyone know for sure?

Dish detergents used to petrolium based..! It used to bubble the paint on your car, I guess they must have changed them..? It would still scare me to wash my truck with it though. I use Turtle Wax Car Wash but on a more regular i use the local Oasis car wash http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I always look for car wash that states on the label, "Will not remove car wax". K-Mart had some green stuff for .97 a bottle with a $1.00 mail in rebate!

I always look for car wash that states on the label, "Will not remove car wax". K-Mart had some green stuff for .97 a bottle with a $1.00 mail in rebate!


If you read the entire label it also states "Will not remove dirt" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Just kidding ...

You're soaking in it...

Dishwashing Liquid!

Relax Madge...... it's Palmolive


Reminds me of the old commercialEdited by: hoot

What about Ivory liquid, I was told it's not so harsh? I've used it for years and never seemed to notice wax removal. Is it made from the same stuff as other dish soap? It doesn't burn your eyes so I think it might be different but does anyone know for sure?





Ah stop washing your eyes with the stuff .... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Most Dish soap has grease remover in it to make for squeaky clean dishes ... I feel like a chick here WTF ..http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif.. It will strip your wax ... Buy some car wash you el'cheap'o leave the Ivory soap for the dishes ...





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RAIN or now SNOW

Brake fluid DOT5 will remove your wax - and the dirt, and the painthttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif Leaves your hands silky smooth http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

Thanks for all of the responses. No wonder I can never keep a good coat of wax on my vehicles...duuhhh. It sure makes sense about dish soap removing wax.


It sure is great having a resource like this forum for knuckleheads like me...

I've gotten real lazy so i don't take care like I used to.

I used to wash my vehicles with a 5 galllon bucket of hot water and a quart of kerosene poured in it. That would remove dirt, wax, tar and bugs. After that wash it a second time with car wash. Then a good wax. I'd do this at least once a year. Boy does that get your paint happy. The petroleum based kero fortifies the paint and leaves an oily residue in all the nooks and crannies. Truck glows after the wax job.

I was also told to NEVER leave wax on a vehicle for any length of time without buffing. It sucks out oils also. Edited by: hoot

Mac wrote:


"... Buy some car wash you el'cheap'o leave the Ivory soap for the dishes ..."


Regardless of whether Ivory removes the wax or not, I hate it that you got to the heart of the matter so quickly!!


I'm the first son of the first son of a depression generation family, it's really hard to part with the bucks!!


Perhaps we could pass the collection plate???? hehehehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I've gotten real lazy so i don't take care like I used to.

I used to wash my vehicles with a 5 galllon bucket of hot water and a quart of kerosene poured in it. That would remove dirt, wax, tar and bugs. After that wash it a second time with car wash. Then a good wax. I'd do this at least once a year. Boy does that get your paint happy. The petroleum based kero fortifies the paint and leaves an oily residue in all the nooks and crannies. Truck glows after the wax job.

I was also told to NEVER leave wax on a vehicle for any length of time without buffing. It sucks out oils also.





thats something totally new to me, gotta try that sometime, I bet that will make the greenpeace people cringe.

I use Zaino products - they're simply the best I've found. I started using them back in my Corvette days, I figure if they're good enough for a Corvette, they're good enough for my truck.


www.zainobros.com

Zip wax here.

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Ok Mac,


Here's proof that el'cheap'o sprung for some Car Wash.


My wife is wondering if there is anything I wouldn't do for this truck???http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_103.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)


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Here is a new car wash product that I recently ordered. Can't wait to try it. You can only order it online right now but ad says it will be in stores in Feb '04.


Darrell


http://www.homemadesimple.com/mrcleanautodry/

Darrell,

Let us know how ol' Mr. Clean works for you. We have very hard water and I never seem to get the truck dried before the water spots start forming. If Mr. C gets the job done that's the way I'm going.

TC

DMAX2DAMAX

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You'll be happy you did !!!!!

Mac

I already am!!


Funny how you grow up around Grandpa's body shop and he tells you Ivory liquid is the best thing for washing cars, and all of a sudden it's 40 or 50 years later and there's a better way of doing things!


I washed my dmax, my 62 and the wife's safari van today and they came out great using Mac's suggestion!

How much of that stuff did you use per rig DMAX2DMAX?? I am looking for something to use on the new truck. My dad has always used Ivory also, but I want to treat this thing right since I have it from new. Thanks for the help.


Bob

The directions said 1 oz per gallon of water, and I followed the directions for once!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif There's 128 oz per bottle.

Sounds good enough for me. Where did you pick that stuff up at?? Up here in WA state we have Schucks auto stores that I imagine would probably carry it. Thanks for the help.



Bob

Let's see, where would el'cheap'o get stuff, Wally World,http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_4_105.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001) of course! And at only $4.96 a bottle.





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A $40K+ truck and we're trying to see how much money can be saved by buying the cheapest shampoo? Geez ,,, I know where you can buy Brand 'X' oil filters 3 for .99 cents if you're interested. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

A $40K+ truck and we're trying to see how much money can be saved by buying the cheapest shampoo? Geez ,,, I know where you can buy Brand 'X' oil filters 3 for .99 cents if you're interested. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


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$4.96 a bottle is real expenive... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_105.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001) ...$4.99 more expensive!!








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Yes, I'm serious ... the filters "look" like regular oil filters ...same shape, size, etc. The only difference is they have absolutely no filtering media ...just some paper that looks like filter media ...but hey, who's going to notice !? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Oops then, cause I wasn't, I was just havin fun with a Mac el'cheap'o comment. Sorry!


Is there a connection between the filter media you refer to and the TurtleWax Zip Wax/Car Wash mentioned or a serious point about it you're trying to make that I didn't get? Is it worthless?

No connection ... at least not intended. Just thought it was funny some people spend $40K on a truck but don't care what it looks like, or may never wash it ...if they do wash it, it may be twice year with Ivory or an SOS pad, etc. but they may run the very best oil filters, oil, tires, accessories, etc. There a word for this but I can't think of it ... certainly not trying to insult anyone ...just something I noticed when I read the thread. Perhaps I read into things too much. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif To each their own ...

Tophog,


Sounds like we're on the same page. I posted to this thread originally because I had always been told Ivory was very mild and wouldn't remove wax. I wash and wax often and want my vehicles to look their best always. When I asked about the Ivory others (Mac especially) suggested that the Ivory wasn't all I thought it was so I made the switch to a Car Wash/Wax to improve my truck's situation. In the discussion Mac made the el'cheap'o comment and that's where I was goin with the just havin fun.


I was serious about is it worthless because if it isn't any better I'd rather not use it. Price really never was the issue!


BTW, I wasn't insulted but was trying to be certain I hadn't insulted anyone either!

Glad to hear I didn't offend anyone... my comments stemmed more from people I know personally. I do know people that buy very expensive vehicles ... then never wash them, run the crap out of them and never service them, go 4 wheelin and rip bumpers off, dent doors ...never have them fixed, see how muddy they can get their truck, never wash it, etc. I have yet to understand the mentallity of this type of individual ...then again I'm not a doctor http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif and it really isn't my business.

I tend to go the other extreme, I tow my 4 wheeler to the woods then park the Dmax and ride the 4 wheeler into the woods. I don't mind washin &amp; waxin, but I sure wouldn't want to get it muddy! I even try to keep the bottom side as clean as new if possible.

DMAX2DAMAX, I'm with you. My wife thinks I'm crazy ...last weekend when I was washing the truck she asked "What's the weird shaped brush for?" ... I told her it was for washing the insides of the fenderwells ... should have seen the look in her eyes. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

I've seen the look but it was in my wife's eyes!


Of course el'cheap'o doesn't have a special brush.


I've been having to learn a lot since movin up from an 85 6.2 to a dmax. Then Ivory to a Car Wash/Wax and now a new brush. The technological advancements are staggering!


Do you have any pics of the weird shaped brush?? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_2_11.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)





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The brush isn't actually funny looking IMO ... I think it's actually a normal looking car wash brush however I'd never use any brush on my surface paint. I like the longer handle as it makes it's easier to brush the inside of the fender wheels without having to stick your hand/arm up in there ...a long hand truck wash brush work work just as good.


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Are you guys still making fun of me for my 97 cent car wash? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Well, I did just get my order of Zaino 1, 2, 6 and that was big bux.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


BTW, did any of you scarf up the PH9100 STP oil filters that were on sale at Auto Zone for $1.98 ea.?????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif They are made by Champion Labs, same company that makes the OEM filter they put on at the factory.

Here is a new car wash product that I recently ordered. Can't wait to try it. You can only order it online right now but ad says it will be in stores in Feb '04.


Darrell


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Finally got to use Mr Clean Carwash this weekend since it was fairly warm. The results were great. The system attaches to a garden hose and contains a soap container and a water purifier cartridge. It has 3 settings, plain water at high flow for wetting/rinsing. A soap setting and a low flow fine rinse that uses conditioned water to remove all water droplets and spots. There is also an on/off lever that stops water flow if you wish. I grabbed a sponge, wetted the truck, then went to work with the soap spraying from one hand and the sponge rubbing in the other. The system made quick work of the truck and it was spotless when I finished. I didn't time how long it took but it seemed I was finished in no time.


Darrell

I'm hoping someone comes out with just a screw on water filter. I'd like to use my own soap, etc. and be able to use "softened" water as the water at my house is really hard ... water spots up the yang yang if you don't wipe off quickly. It's so bad I don't wash at all when the sun is out ...I always wash the harley in the garage out of the sunlight and take the 150 mph yard blower to her. Have washed the truck in their before but get too many weird looks from the neighbors. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Edited by: tophog