Hello, first Id like to say you guys have a great board going on. Been reading the posts for a little while now..so hope I can help however I can, and maybe get some help as well. Thanks.
Question is, the 85 trucks came with the box filter, and the previous owner took it out and put on a racor spin on filter/water seperator model no 3202. Now, I dont have a water in fuel sensor, or a fuel heater, or a secondary fuel filter. I got ahold of an older style OEM secondary spin on filter base...but I am having trouble finding the fittings for it. So...
--anyone happen to know part numbers for the fittings, or the measurements and type? (the in and out are different sizes..both are inverted flares I think??) Any places to get such things?
--anyone think that it would be better and know of a secondary filter I can put in the OEM's place?
--any suggestions on getting a fuel heater back? I think it was a part of the OEM filters base? I can live without the water sensor if need be, just would check the water collector bowl often.
Thanks for any help in advance!!!
DL

You can stay with the raycor and be fine. As for a fuel heater, you could try and find one off of a 82 or 83 as they were in the fuel line between the fuel pump and the secondary filter. Racor might possibly have a aftermarket fuel heater also. Next bet would be to find a replacement original filter setup. Most are replaced because they develop leaks but the leaks are usually just a bad o-ring.;)

D.Camilleri-- thanks for your help. Im glad you said the single racor would be fine. I didnt think anything of it, until the truck started stalling. So figured it was the fuel filter, and replaced it. Problem 99% gone now. yay..but then I saw the label on the new racor filter say it wasnt meant as a single, only filtered 30 microns. So I worried. Dont know much about microns, but if you say its good, i'll believe it.
I did check to see if racor had a fuel heater, and they do..just was quite a bit expensive. Cant remember how much, been a while ago.
I will have to look for a 82/83 heater like you said, that never came to mind. Know where to find one...Im one of few 6.2's in this area and I havent see one offhand on ebay or anywhere else.
Thanks again for all your help!

Depending which Racor you have you can add their heater & WIF sensor go to their web site http://www.parker.com/racor/pdf/Section01.pdf and see if you can find the tech sheet on yours & see if they have the parts you need.

When I said to stay with the Raycor, I was assuming it was a finer filtration model like I am used to, most Raycor's have different filter elements available. You want one that is around 5 microns. 30 microns is tooooooo large and will let debris into your injection system.;)

Turbine Doc, thanks for the reply. Racor does have a heater add on(RK30895) for my filter(3202). I only found on place online that sells it, and if I remember right there were quite high in price(they were high in price for just the filter as well, $20 difference) and they said it might take weeks to order. So I was looking for an alternative(or a differnt place to buy, any ideas?). Unusually warm weather here 40F-50F this week..so not hurting bad at the moment. Dont need anything fancy, so as long as it works. Like mentioned above, maybe a 82/83 heater...if I can find one?
*30 micron filter okie dokie for a stand alone filter?
comments/suggestions welcome, thanks.
DL

D.Camilleri--oh okay..guess 30 is a tad too big. Any suggestions on a secondary filter? *where to buy/model/type?* Looked at racor site, most I could find for GM Diesels was the one I already have, so not much help there. Different brand okay, not picky. Just not sure what is realable without getting crazy. thanks for your help.
DL

The racor I used to run had about a 10 micron filter. I also used one with a 5 micron filter. I never was real happy with either of them due to cost of filter elements and once I had a little water in the clear bowl and it froze and broke the bowl. In all honesty I liked the box style filters, or you could adapt a later model 6.5 filter faily easily. Replacement box style filters are pretty easy to find, especially with all of the military 6.2's hitting the market.:)

On my set up I run the factory 5 micron on engine, and a 10 micron on the frame rail to get out the "rocks" it is working well for me, pop over to the 6.5 forum & you can see a 5 micron dissected at 15K still clean. WIX & I would assume Baldwin make replacement elements for my Racor body. Check WIX site plug in your Racor pn & and they will tell you the WIX equivalent, that way you can shop around for cheapest.

In your case I'd relocate the Racor body with heater, WIF, & Vac switch you have to the frame rail, and install a 5 micron filter or smaller on the engine. Another option I don't know if it will work on a 6.2, but a 6.5 fuel filter, has a built in heater & WIF, maybe you could junk yard in one of those. Racor also makes a 2 micron element that you could fit on your filter body, then you could install another on the frame and not move this one.

With the cost of elements I opted for the vac switch to give indication to tell me when filters NEED to be changed, not just guessing or assigning arbitrary mileage intervals. Since you are at mercy of where you buy fuel it's good to know actual blockage, I swapped a new one once for low power symptoms that was only 5K old. I had gotten a bad load of fuel, this was also pre frame rail filter as well.

For sourcing I got my Racor from a boat dealer on the net they had a awesome sale going, just remember to get the Diesel fuel & not gas element they sent wrong one twice, also check over the road truck retailers they use Racor. Junkyard source a Ford filter frame, I found out the other day my WIX 10 mic element also fits a Ford, I don't remember the year I'll check the box and see what it says.

A thought just occurred, you may need the Racor with priming bulb on your 6.2, I don't know if your on engine mechanical lift pump will fill the bowl of the Racor, DC what are your thoughts on this.

Thats alot of info. Been on internet most the morning trying to locate a secondary setup, but not much found. I can find plenty of filters that could work(5-10mic), as well as plenty of filters that would go in place of the racor I have, like you suggested(wix,fram,etc). Problem is finding the filter base that I can use. like I said earlier I have a early 6.2 sec. filter base and filter, but no one in area has or could order the one connector, it being a metric size. If I could just find that, Id throw that on. But I cant so... also the filter sites dont mention the mic size?? Dont see how I can matc a proper rated sec filter to find a matching base.
*doc-the 2 mic filter addon you mentioned, couldnt find it on the racor site, happen to know the model no/where to buy? does that mean the filter would do both 2/30mic, or would I have to still get a primary?
*DC thanks for telling me about the bowl breaking, will keep a closer eye on it. no problems of yet, been down to 9F some nights.
About the 6.5 filter..never seen one. is it a single or a double setup?
--racor filter itself seems to be fine(minus no wif/heater). also got it from a marine store online 19.50 I think. about the primer bulb..dont have one. changed filter, did a couple cranks, finally caught and ran fine. went cross country with it, last winter. washington state-new jersey. cant imagine what went through the filter since only a 30mic(but I didnt know at the time!)ouch. ran fine though..so hope all is well.
Thanks for both yours help...maybe between the three of us we can figure something out! DL

Did you find this part of Racors site http://www.parker.com/racor/pdf/Section01.pdf scroll thru the PDF file to find pn & specifics on all filters they make, should be one in here that suits your need, also in 6.5 Forum FAQs I have a frame filter install thread

Turbine Doc, thanks for the link again. You posted it previously, but it makes a whole lot more sense after reading the last posts. I think I can work something out now. On one of your posts you mentioned this-- **With the cost of elements I opted for the vac switch to give indication to tell me when filters NEED to be changed, not just guessing or assigning arbitrary mileage intervals. Since you are at mercy of where you buy fuel it's good to know actual blockage, I swapped a new one once for low power symptoms that was only 5K old. I had gotten a bad load of fuel, this was also pre frame rail filter as well.**
What kind of setup do you have? Is there a guage connected? That sounds like a very good idea, and since I will be changing/adding things to make this work, that would be the time to add one. On a system like mine, which will have a secondary, I think the switch would go after that filter, do you agree? If theres a guage, what numbers would indicate time to change the filter(s)? Thanks. DL

Dummy me for linking twice, mind is 1st thing to go they say check this thread here I have a pic & comments to my set up http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=340554#post340554

BTW using the quote feature you can save some time if you don't want it all for the quote drag & hi-lite, then delete after the quote start what you don't want, saves typing an area where I am severely challenged myself, spell check and hunt/peck is my style. Will look like this after edit

On one of your posts you mentioned this-- **With the cost of elements I opted for the vac switch to give indication to tell me when filters NEED to be changed, not just guessing or assigning arbitrary mileage intervals. Since you are at mercy of where you buy fuel it's good to know actual blockage, I swapped a new one once for low power symptoms that was only 5K old. I had gotten a bad load of fuel, this was also pre frame rail filter as well.**

. DL

Doc, thanks for that post link. Good info there. Looks like you have a nice setup going on! Been looking at racor site, seems a Cummins model filter would work as a secondary, and now I have a part no to order a part. Thats if I can order one, no one online seems to carry bases and local dealer was unhappy he might have to order such a thing. Will try to find additional bases.
Found a link of yours to www.heathdiesel.com He has two fuel pressure gages listed 0-15/0-30 and it made me think...since I could get my own gage and do it myself pretty easy. Checked the Helm manual, said 6.5-9psi(44.8-62kPa) is optimal so a 15psi gage would work.(thought I would mention for other interested people). Currently trying to think of how to mount secondary, side by side would look good plus gage(might be easier). Thought about on frame like yours, not sure where I could really. OEM sec. was located on back of intake manifold, probably not an option with a new base. Truck is a K20 single cab long bed, dual tanks. Not much room under.
Thanks for telling me how to quote, will have to try it next time. DL

Hey TF, I just went through the same hassle you are going through. The goofy line out on the early secondary filter mount is a real pain, I ended up going to a hydraulic specialist to get fixed up. A #6 ORB fitting also fits nice but you will have to file the outlet face flat for the oring seal. Then just add a 1/4 npt - 3/8 hose barb and your in business. I believe the secondary spin on filters down to at least 5 micron, so its a cheap way to get the filtering you want. I picked up a Stanadyne inline fuel heater on ebay to replace the original on my truck. I also added an electric fuel pump before both filters to eliminate the hassle of priming the filters after a change.

Rim, I am currently tying to work out a deal for a pair of original sec filter fittings. I also went to a hydraulic spec, only one in the area, and he said had one of the fittings( a #6 inverted flare I think) but the other was a 14mm(I think), he had none and didnt know where to order one. So I came back with no leads. In case it dont work, can you clairfy or add any more info on what you did and used to make yours fittings work?
also, any more info on your inline fuel heater would be helpful. model #? how you like it? where in the system did you put it? i will have to add one now as well. Thanks!

there is a place called marinefilters.com that sells all the racor filters and replacement elements for a good 40% off list price (and i checked this out too).
Paul

TF, I redid my fuel system from the firewall to the IP so I could add the secondary filter mount (I have a '94 6.5 motor in my '82 K20 with 6.2 top end parts) - I added an inline filter to my fuel line at the firewall, then I mounted a NAPA electric fuel pump to the frame, the pump pushes the fuel through my stanadyne inline fuel heater which is mounted vertically (it was originally under the intake but I didn't want to pull it) and into the primary filter. I fabbed a bracket and used the top 2 mount bolts on the primary to bolt it on so the filters are mounted side by side. The goofy threads on the secondary are british i'm told, I have a #6 ORB fitting as well as the adapter to convert to 3/8 hose here - if you want to try it, I could probably mail it to you. It is what I was going to use before I got fixed up at the hydraulic shop, I was just keeping it for backup.

Oh yeah, the inline heater is a stanadyne model A10, Type 4. I have seen several on ebay, just hooked it up the other day so can't give any feedback yet.

There is a stock BOX filter on ebay right now, could solve your filter problems. Do a search for 6.2 Diesel.;)