From the years 03 and on GM is at 4.05% while Dodge is near a 13% failure rate.
The wise ones knew only time would tell for sure. Can't drive off the parking lot anymore and say well thats it. Its a shame but the Cummins is also no longer as reliable as it once was in 02 and earlier. :eek:
Is a little helping of crow for a friend in order? ):h
In his near exact words he can now look forward to the possible EVENT. See the link below. Sorry, I just couldn't contain myself. ;)

Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock-Tick-Tock

http://turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119501&page=2&pp=15

Awww come on now, let's give Hoot a break here. ;)
I'm sure his is in the other 87%!!! :ro)

:lol:

Never had an injector failure ever but headgasket.... GM 1 Dodge 0

My stats show GM to have 100% higher headgasket failure rate than Dodge :lol:


I actually believe Dmax headgasket failures are on the rise.... aren't they, techs?

:Get_him:

I personally have yet to see a single headgasket failure actually. Probably people miss diagnosing the leaking injector sleeve seal leaking. :D

:Nothing_f

:offtopic:
I actually believe Dmax headgasket failures are on the rise.... aren't they, techs?

There's nothing like trying to change the subject when you're losing an argument.):h





Thanks for the link, a bear. Very interesting!

This topic comes as a shock to anyone, why???:funnypost

Actually Hoot, just spoke with the Tech who does all the Dmax work around here today after work...To date...No Head Gaskets....Zero...Nada....ZIPPO....

He said this, If they were to lose a head gasket it would most likely be from the injector leaking into the cylinder causing a hydraulic effect. Something does have to give in that case.

He did say that the injector replacement is going well and on the 01/02 swap he says he has seen no returns....But again, we start over with a little better upgrade...Sure Hope Dodge has a good warranty deal going on......:Wedgie:

Eric?

Eric?
I think you meant "Eric, :help: "

I would like to get an estimate from Eric on how many he has done.

I would like to get an estimate from Eric on how many he has done.

And a HONEST evaluation on who was "gassed" or "Plugged and Played" and "ECM loaded".

Won't happen, as these guys JUST like YOU hoot, wanted GM to pay the bill! :eek:
You know WHY you went to Mich.,same reason the others did,min lip service and a blind eye.

You dare cry foul :blahblah:



I'm not bashing just not AFRAID to speak! Right :exactly:

I like Coffee in the morning,no juice! :)

Hey think on the bright side you only will have to get 6 injectors. :muahaha:

Turf, you're right, only six injectors, but he still has bigger rods!

And a HONEST evaluation on who was "gassed" or "Plugged and Played" and "ECM loaded".

Won't happen, as these guys JUST like YOU hoot, wanted GM to pay the bill! :eek:
You know WHY you went to Mich.,same reason the others did,min lip service and a blind eye.

You dare cry foul :blahblah:



I'm not bashing just not AFRAID to speak! Right :exactly:

I like Coffee in the morning,no juice! :)


I don't agree Mac. Your headgaskets are fine aren't they?

I'm just reacting to this particular thread about stats that are too soon to compare. I know lots of people with injector failures on Dmaxes for years now. I don't know anyone in the local cummins world I'm in that has had one single injector failure yet. Answer...... Cummins CR hasn't been out as long.... answer.... you can't use the data yet.

Like I said if you want to use data now....

Headgasket

Dmax=1
Cummins=0

DMax has 100% higher chance of headgasket failure...

You know I'm not super serious about the headgasket issue.

Well, let's throw this in as well. The D-max has TWICE as many head gaskets! :lol:

Like "they" say, figures lie and, well , we know the rest. HEHEHEHE!!!
Disclaimer: I am NOT calling hoot a liar, just pokin fun! L8R

I had a bad head gasket. Pics are here: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1072833&uid=437876

You have to look at the bright side of this.Now there will be two very large companies looking to solve this problem(hopefully).

The bright side is we never had to drive a Dodge.

Hoot I never seriously ran the propane like you did.Mater of fact hardly.Yours did how long?Then you Juiced it?

Everyone who popped a head gasket had something,everyone who had ......

Sure mine are intact TODAY in 80K semi and abused miles?Who knows,you?

Hoot I never seriously ran the propane like you did.Mater of fact hardly.Yours did how long?Then you Juiced it?

Everyone who popped a head gasket had something,everyone who had ......

Sure mine are intact TODAY in 80K semi and abused miles?Who knows,you?


That' s cause your lines were backwards :eek:

Look at Tomac.

Bear ...you are one BAD bear !! those poor dodge boys......
you know, there might not be much wrong in having one of each in the yard...the way i see it we all need a backup..later, bc

Hello Hoot,
I ate dinner with you and ERIC at Buffalo Wild Wings in Grand Rapids :) . Funny thing here is...... I just informed ERIC, of a Buddy's truck on the way to Alabama, BLOWING UP!!!!:eek: His NEW DODGE w/CUMMINS had bad injectors stick open, and dumped fuel into his motor in all the wrong places.... This is the first I've heard of. Here's the kicker..... Eric let me know the injectors are the same BOSCH fuel system we had in the LB7 (if I understood him correctly. They actually Had to send a CUMMINS REP to inspect the motor and OK a NEW MOTOR. He just got word they are driving his new truck w/newer motor up from the south as of FRI. He's been without his truck for 2 1/2 weeks.

Hello Hoot,
I ate dinner with you and ERIC at Buffalo Wild Wings in Grand Rapids :) . Funny thing here is...... I just informed ERIC, of a Buddy's truck on the way to Alabama, BLOWING UP!!!!:eek: His NEW DODGE w/CUMMINS had bad injectors stick open, and dumped fuel into his motor in all the wrong places.... This is the first I've heard of. Here's the kicker..... Eric let me know the injectors are the same BOSCH fuel system we had in the LB7 (if I understood him correctly. They actually Had to send a CUMMINS REP to inspect the motor and OK a NEW MOTOR. He just got word they are driving his new truck w/newer motor up from the south as of FRI. He's been without his truck for 2 1/2 weeks.

Hous it going. I won $50 in the lottery thing they had there at the bar. Snowed the whole time I was there. There was a lady that worked in Dennys in GR that said she used to live in Claymont Delaware.... thats' right next tom me here. Small world.

Yes it's not news that it's the same system. I was hounding the DOdge boys about it while I still had my GMC.

Maybe I'd rather have a new truck show up after somthing like that happens.

Ask Eric how many head gasket jobs he's got under his belt.

Hoot,
Will do!! He's been down the the Suncoast Open house. l haven' t heard from him yet. He's supposed to have some super duper ultra secret goodies.......I can't hardly stand it. You know........ I just heard GM is bringing back the 0% financing for the Duramax........ Maybe you could trade up? :thumb:
Just kidding. Take care!!

Bear ...you are one BAD bear !! those poor dodge boys......
you know, there might not be much wrong in having one of each in the yard...the way i see it we all need a backup..later, bc
Well you know someone has to do it. This might seem harsh but we've been taking it up the wazoo with tactful cheapshots long enough. As Dodge appears to be loosing their edge in the injector saga the stones keep getting reinvented (head gaskets) and pitched from what IMO doesn't even qualify as a glass house. The Cummins was the only life jacket the Dodge boys had to hold on to. Now it is failing which makes the truck a POS in it's entirety. -:t There!

Don't pull any punches Tommy. Later! Frank :)

maybe the real culprit will stand up - bosch, must have done better QC for german brother but now slipping it to their brother now. IMO

Well you know someone has to do it. This might seem harsh but we've been taking it up the wazoo with tactful cheapshots long enough. As Dodge appears to be loosing their edge in the injector saga the stones keep getting reinvented (head gaskets) and pitched from what IMO doesn't even qualify as a glass house. The Cummins was the only life jacket the Dodge boys had to hold on to. Now it is failing which makes the truck a POS in it's entirety. -:t There!


Tell us how you really feel :o:

a bear I'm not on a Dmax headgasket kick at all. The cheapshots are simply part of life in the world of diesel BS. Sometimes it does get on your nerves. Look at all the shots I've taken since buying my Dodge. My wazoo is overloaded. Break out the violin.

On the other hand you're just another guy that swears Dodge trucks were, are and will always be junk. No matter what anybody says. There are more than a few that feel the same about GM and/or Ford. I happen to think Ford trucks aren't quite up to par in relation to the sales they produce.

Dodges have improved model change after model change and yes... they now share many major drivetrain components with GM. Plus the infamous CR design.

See you in the tech section

That' s cause your lines were backwards :eek:

Look at Tomac.


Nope
Wrong again my Friend :D

I had installed the Propane and removed prior to that dyno day.Upon the quick re-install for the dyno day I inveterately reversed the lines.

Is Tomac running propane ? I don't believe so.

All is not what it seems the under ground spins in complete circles.If your following what's written on these pages your short handed.Eric can proclaim high head gasket replacement numbers,but what is the trend across the entire GM service departments?

We know many travel great distances for Eric's service,the same service available in their home town.

Wonder why? I don't :D

Nope
Wrong again my Friend :D

I had installed the Propane and removed prior to that dyno day.Upon the quick re-install for the dyno day I inveterately reversed the lines.

Is Tomac running propane ? I don't believe so.

All is not what it seems the under ground spins in complete circles.If your following what's written on these pages your short handed.Eric can proclaim high head gasket replacement numbers,but what is the trend across the entire GM service departments?

We know many travel great distances for Eric's service,the same service available in their home town.

Wonder why? I don't :D


You didn't have to explain about the lp lines... :Wedgie:

So you admit..... Eric sees headgaskets.... often. What does that mean?

Hoot, You may want to concede, suck it up and trade in that goat while you have the chance. Apparently the Cummins not only looses injectors but are known for the occasional grenade when doing so. I wouldn't want to be looking forward to the event. You can do this while at least you still have a decent resale value left. The resale of Mopar products drop much faster than the Chevy. What does that mean? I wouldn't think just a couple of historically failing components would make resale drop that quick. Must be the whole truck as a unit. Look at the bright side, once you convert back the Chevy will once again be the better truck and you can go back to bashing Dodges. That should be easy. You could expand the issues without having to focus on two items.

You have to admit the DMax Deep skirt block design with fracture split connecting rods and beefed up main bearing pillars with the oil cooled pistons is truely a tough engine that will handle many extra ponies. I would put this engine up against the Cummins for durability anyday. Especially now. Then you get the added benefit of the products that are attached to the rear of that flywheel. :ro)

Everything is going to fail at some point Chevy, Dodge, Ford or even a Geo now and then. :rolleyes: It’s just a fact of life.... Cummins has had head gaskets go just like the Chevy’s and Fords. Each case is deferent; you just can't compare the two... may be someone overheated the crap out of it? Or maybe not… :blahblah: The thing I would like to know is how true are the percentages given on the first post? Seems if they are true then Chevy is getting the injector issue taken care of, and if that’s the case.... Watch out Dodge… :cool2: Just look at the Diesel sales Chevy has now compared to just 5-6 years ago… I see new D-max’s on the road every day. :ro) And I see that as nothing but a good Thing


Chris

:D Everything is going to fail at some point Chevy, Dodge, Ford or even a Geo now and then. :rolleyes: It’s just a fact of life.... Cummins has had head gaskets go just like the Chevy’s and Fords. Each case is deferent; you just can't compare the two... may be someone overheated the crap out of it? Or maybe not… :blahblah: The thing I would like to know is how true are the percentages given on the first post? Seems if they are true then Chevy is getting the injector issue taken care of, and if that’s the case.... Watch out Dodge… :cool2: Just look at the Diesel sales Chevy has now compared to just 5-6 years ago… I see new D-max’s on the road every day. :ro) And I see that as nothing but a good Thing


Chris

Problem is,well,Dodge is all ready #3 in the pack. How far back, in the pack, is there? :D :nutkick: :D

A Bear.....OH My, we have opened up the flood gates now, that is for sure.):h That's is some funny stuff you posted...."Now the truck is a POS in it's entirety"....Bawahahahahahaha.

I have to say...I am definitely one that felt, and still feels, that Dodge is junk... All the way from its lack luster mack truck frontend styling, to it's cheap interior, to it's suspect drivetrain. It only had the Cummins and with that now taking it's lumps it will only solidify Dodge as 3rd place in truck sales. The only thing is how far back it will go......:eek:. The bright side is maybe they will become collector items or something.......:lol:

Hows the warranty on Dodges....?

In the mean time D/C keeps recording gains while GM and Ford record significant losses over the last year.

In the mean time D/C keeps recording gains while GM and Ford record significant losses over the last year.
I think if you look at total overall sales and "satisfaction" GM and Ford are WAYabove d**ge and will always be...:blahblah:

:muahaha:Spend $30K + and get a free Dodge BALL :nutkick: !!!!

I reitterate...............Dodge is junk,how long have I posted it now ?
Pure Censoredp Gen 2 & Gen 3 ...............:welcome: :Handshake

I don't think D/C is having anywhere near the problems with the HPCR Cummins as ISUZU is having with the Dmax period. I love how you guys are combing TDR for problems. What did you expect to find there? Sure some will blow. It's only a matter of time but I don't see countless posts on failed injectors and almost no.... that's ZERO posts on auto tranny failures. I'm sure there's one or two but there are no pronounced problems.

I do see ball joint complaints probably the most. I grease my non-greasable joints with a hypodermic grease nipple.

"Cummins used HPCR on it's "B" series engine in Europe for two years prior to introducing it in the Dodge. The data from Cummins on the product launch on the HPCR engine is overwhelmingly positive.

I think we can agree that the 94-98 12V engines with the mechanical fuel systems are reknowned for their record of reliability.

If you compare the HPCR to the old 94-98 engine you should note that, not only the average number, but the high and low numbers (frequency of repairs) are all less than half the numbers posted by the 12V engine"

Data provided by Cummins


And AGAIN.... Dodge now uses AAM axles front and rear... same as the GM junk right? Actually the Dodge rear AAM version has larger axle tubes and higher capacity than the GM HD version.

Days go by. Truck starts and runs. Nothing breaks. Dodge stepped it up another notch with the third gen.

I love this truck regardless of how you guys feel about Dodge. It is a blast to drive. Very different than my GMC. Feels like a diesel more so than the V8's. The torque is awesome and the whistle on the way is music. Built on a chassis that Kent Kreoker took third place in the Baja 1000... and drove home. You guys like your roady rigs. I like the way this truck presents itself. It's a beast and everyone that sees it loves it.

Junk?... they all are in their own way. Pick your poison.

:blahblah: I think someone feels backed into a corner... Hoot if you are happy with your purchase you do not need to prove it to us, maybe you need to prove it to yourself.

Most of the d**ge owners I know are running Standard trans, that is why there is "zero" automatic trans failures reported....as you say... Most people want the allison in automatic because they don't want to spend 45K for a truck and then shift gears....:muahaha:


So at this point, I can see a :rant: coming on and things are going to get messy..:blahblah:

One thing to remember is that when GM sees a problem they make it right with the customer untill things get figured out. With Dodge on the other hand you PAY as you go and while they learn. This is what has always hurt Dodge. Customer loyalty means everything. From myself and my family's past experiences this is somewhat OK while the vehicle is new but as it ages and a bunch of little things start to loosen up and go wrong (historically so) it becomes costly with them handing you the entire bill without even so much as an open ear. -:t

My Chevy on the other hand is still tight and rattle free after 79K miles and with not a lick of trouble. And on top of that a 200K fuel system warranty JUST IN CASE I have a problem. (Refer above to customer loyalty)

:blahblah: I think someone feels backed into a corner... Hoot if you are happy with your purchase you do not need to prove it to us, maybe you need to prove it to yourself.

Most of the d**ge owners I know are running Standard trans, that is why there is "zero" automatic trans failures reported....as you say... Most people want the allison in automatic because they don't want to spend 45K for a truck and then shift gears....:muahaha:


So at this point, I can see a :rant: coming on and things are going to get messy..:blahblah:


I didn't start this topic. Rant away.... you're good at it :lol:


BTW: Blazer sold for what we expected in spite of your rant.

Obe Wan Hoot Kanobe:

We are just messin with you cuz we want you to come back from the "DarkSide"

You can say what you will about your new Dodge truck and how everybody looks at and likes it, but we ALL know the truth....):h Denial is FUTILE.

Hey did your Dodge come with Corinthian Leather?

As for Dodge making profits???? You know it is not from Truck sales, it is from that Dodge 300 Bentley looking deal that shows up in all the Rap Video's:lol: It is the same reason why GM does so well with the H2 Dummer...oooops I mean Hummer. It made it to the top through Rap video's

:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :offtopic: :offtopic: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :offtopic: :blahblah: :blahblah: :offtopic: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

... I better go trade my truck in on a Chevy truck with a 12 valve Cummins, an Allison trans, and a solid front axle...:ro) that would be the best truck in the market):h

I don't claim to have the greatest. I do get a kick out of all the attention I get though.

Then there's Broker.... nothing to say.

He probably doesn't even know what breaks on his company trucks.

Well Hoot, you could avoid it all by discontinuing your subscription the GM site and stick with your new friends on the TDR site:) ....That should just about end it all. But I think, in some sort of sadistic way, you come here for the punishement and subsequent abuse......

I say Pack it up....heal your wounds and come on back when you have purchased a GM truck again.

There HAVE been head gasket failures with the Duramax, but not a lot, and primarily on 2001 models.

I think what we will find is that locally crappy fuel combined with inadequate filtration is a major contributor to the injector issue.

It sounds like the Cummins may be sticking the nozzle assy rather than leaking internally. Good reasoning for lubricity additive...

Well Hoot, you could avoid it all by discontinuing your subscription the GM site and stick with your new friends on the TDR site:) ....That should just about end it all. But I think, in some sort of sadistic way, you come here for the punishement and subsequent abuse......

I say Pack it up....heal your wounds and come on back when you have purchased a GM truck again.
Thats kinda what I was thinking... I don't go back to the Dodge sites even though I had a Cummins before:rolleyes: I like to look around but thats all

I don't claim to have the greatest. I do get a kick out of all the attention I get though.

Then there's Broker.... nothing to say.

He probably doesn't even know what breaks on his company trucks.

Hoot , yes I do.We actualy keep records..............................:exactly:

I even replaced a rear axel ASY Sensor PN#F85Z*2L373*AC on a F-550 this moring.Gee I got dirty....:badidea:
Nothing to say.......................:rippedhan By Dodge , never going back.
:deal: I have paid for all the Dodge repairs,sick of lost time sitting and waiting for repairs.Arguing with incompetent people.:rant:

:HandshakeGM for making a better truck.

Some people just dont care about the money that it takes to keep them on the road or in the ditch and buy them Dodges anyway.... :idiot:

Kind of sums it up.......................:joke: :lol:

Well Hoot, you could avoid it all by discontinuing your subscription the GM site and stick with your new friends on the TDR site:) ....That should just about end it all. But I think, in some sort of sadistic way, you come here for the punishement and subsequent abuse......

I say Pack it up....heal your wounds and come on back when you have purchased a GM truck again.
:cool2: I second this motion. All in favor, say aye....:lol:




I think he likes the attention, must have been deprived as a child...:muahaha:

I do not agree. Nobody needs to leave . Hoot has strong opinions and great DIY arcticles.Just because we like messin' with him ,there is no need to get a vote going like that. Shows lack of spirit.He still owns a GM (wifes) and a Ford (backhoe).So get off the milk crate!:thankyou2

I agree, It's not his fault he bought a Dodge. People are entitled to mess up every now and then. ):h

I agree, It's not his fault he bought a Dodge. People are entitled to mess up every now and then. ):h

Yup, he messed up..........................:smashfrea

Wouldnt that just be a kick in the ass to sell his GM becasue he feared injector issues and have his dodge injectors take a crap on him:nutkick:

No reason for Hoot to go, he's a good resource and alwasy easy/fun to pick on.

Broker,
I agree... I do not want Hoot to leave. Hoot and I have jested back and forth since we purchased our trucks back in early 01. Matter fact you were there as well along with Mackin and MDrag and a host of others, we were some of the first, we all started on the other site until it was going to cost to be a member.

My comment was merely offering some options if he does want to be abused. You have to KNOW that being a member of a site then come on and say you just dumped the truck and bought the competitors because it is better was going to open up a severe case of whoop a$$.

Hoot did a lot of fun stuff and abused his Dmax. Helk I think he had propane on it in less than 3 months after buying it, then came the programmer wars. I just followed along and did nothing for the first 100K miles, Now I have stepped it up a bit to have some fun....

I guess what I am saying is, you do not see us on the TDR site yankering away about the Cummins(Well at least not me anyway)....Bad Carma........I say we keep our dirty laundry right here.....:lol:

Ah jeez I feel a group hug coming..........

so i got a question, what can i tell my friend that his brand new 2004 Cummins Dully is no good, fill me in please............

so i got a question, what can i tell my friend that his brand new 2004 Cummins Dully is no good, fill me in please............
Dodge Cummins sucks. Tell him that.

I do not agree. Nobody needs to leave . Hoot has strong opinions and great DIY arcticles.Just because we like messin' with him ,there is no need to get a vote going like that. Shows lack of spirit.He still owns a GM (wifes) and a Ford (backhoe).So get off the milk crate!:thankyou2:wtf: Allright, since when do you stand up for Hoot, Broker???

New Years Resolution !:funnypost

Broker,
I agree... I do not want Hoot to leave. Hoot and I have jested back and forth since we purchased our trucks back in early 01. Matter fact you were there as well along with Mackin and MDrag and a host of others, we were some of the first, we all started on the other site until it was going to cost to be a member.

My comment was merely offering some options if he does want to be abused. You have to KNOW that being a member of a site then come on and say you just dumped the truck and bought the competitors because it is better was going to open up a severe case of whoop a$$.

Hoot did a lot of fun stuff and abused his Dmax. Helk I think he had propane on it in less than 3 months after buying it, then came the programmer wars. I just followed along and did nothing for the first 100K miles, Now I have stepped it up a bit to have some fun....

I guess what I am saying is, you do not see us on the TDR site yankering away about the Cummins(Well at least not me anyway)....Bad Carma........I say we keep our dirty laundry right here.....:lol:

I totaly agree !:Handshake :nutkick: :smashfrea :stick_out :Wedgie:

Well Hoot, you could avoid it all by discontinuing your subscription the GM site and stick with your new friends on the TDR site:) ....That should just about end it all. But I think, in some sort of sadistic way, you come here for the punishement and subsequent abuse......

I say Pack it up....heal your wounds and come on back when you have purchased a GM truck again.


No wounds to heal.

I post here cause it's a kind of family from way back. Just because I drive a Dodge shouldn't be an issue.

We:welcome2: all Dodge Owners. We can't help it if one day your:driver: down the road and your truck goes -:t . We all won't all :idiot: when this happens. We will :hug: when you get a new GMC. Then we will all say :sorrysign But untill that happen this is too much :stick_out

Thanks for the kind words Broker and everybody else.

Once I got peeo'd at Mac for slamming me and deleted as much of my stuff of this site I could. Nick restored it all and I ended up looking like a fool.

It's gotta be fun and not too serious.


"The Chrysler group's Saltillo, Mexico, plant last week worked overtime for the first time this year."


They build Rams there. :boxing:

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<HR style="COLOR: #a3a4a6" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I can't believe how uncomfortable these seats are. After a good 8 hr day driving, my legs ache from the seat pressing against the back of my legs.
On my 98 I removed the cushions and re-stuffed thanks to a members article in the TDR. It seems the fella's at Dodge cut some corners and shortened up the seat length on the 04.5. There is no way I'm the only one that is experiencing this problem, so before I sell this thing and go with the F word, I have to ask the questions;
1.Any members find a replacement seat cushion that fits and is comfortable for the long distance drives? Where can I buy it?
2. Any members restuffed the 04.5 leather seats yet?
3. Any other fix's out there?
You spend a ton of money on these things, go through all the crap that goes with it, ie. launch shudder, 70 mph vibration, white smoke at startup and now the seats.
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D/C said they would notify when the fix was available... that was back in May last year. I hate even dealing with my selling dealership and other dealerships shun me because I didn't buy from them.

I NEVER had this problem with GM. GM has always made me happy service wise to th point where I actually didn't even worry when I took a GM product back for service.

Dodge has been terrible when I take mine in. They fix the underhood light and make excuses for the vibe, tell me they can't test drive it. Then they tell me they did not notice any problem with the passenger window slowness and hesitation about half way up. It's stone obviuos I said..... service manager says he and the mechanic watched it together.... what a joke. Wonder what else they do together in leu of fixing these trucks.

Needless to say they got a bad survey. Big whip.
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D/C said they would notify when the fix was available... that was back in May last year. I hate even dealing with my selling dealership and other dealerships shun me because I didn't buy from them.

I NEVER had this problem with GM. GM has always made me happy service wise to th point where I actually didn't even worry when I took a GM product back for service.

Dodge has been terrible when I take mine in. They fix the underhood light and make excuses for the vibe, tell me they can't test drive it. Then they tell me they did not notice any problem with the passenger window slowness and hesitation about half way up. It's stone obviuos I said..... service manager says he and the mechanic watched it together.... what a joke. Wonder what else they do together in leu of fixing these trucks.

Needless to say they got a bad survey. Big whip.
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:muahaha: Now that's just funny right there, I don't care who you are...):h

Ahole it's no secret and never been.

Yup Hoot hasn't been satisfied with the Dodge service.Really no big deal as there are GM service departments with poor service.

This thread is done

You had your fun lets not carry it to every thread and topic that a opportunity exist.

Thanks