Besides what little I already know-- like changing levels on the fly with the VA, but not having the option of getting the monitor, like the juice, what are any other pros and cons of these?
I understand that the 90hp juice outruns the VA 110, but what about the 125?
They seem competitively priced, so I'm still hashing it over.

you can change on the fligh with the oj also. As for the VA i can't tell you any thing on that.

The Juice with the Attitude allows shift on the fly............5 levels........plus the Display can double for gauges.......

The VA's offer three position switches...........off/1/2/Full Power.............VA has a ton of Tuner files and many different combos they can flash but you still only have two choices.

They are both Plug and Play...........They both are reliable and make good power............

Personally I have both and either one would be fine..........IMHO

They are priced closely as well...........

They have trans protect, the Juice power comes on with temp..........I do not think that the VA does, you set the level and it is on that level even when cold..........

Dyno numbers depending on version files in the VA can be varied...........the Juice makes alot of Power..........as does the VA depending on the file.........

Good Luck,

I don't think you will be dissapointed in either one.


T:cool: NY

The Juice with the Attitude allows shift on the fly............5 levels........plus the Display can double for gauges.......

The VA's offer three position switches...........off/1/2/Ful Powerl.............VA has a ton of Tuner files and many different combos they can flash but you still only have two choices.

They are both Plug and Play...........They both are reliable and make good power............

Personally I have both and either one would be fine..........IMHO

They are priced closely as well...........

They have trans protect, the Juice power comes on with temp..........I do not think that the VA does, you set the level and it is on that level even when cold..........

Dyno numbers depending on version files in the VA can be varied...........the Juice makes alot of Power..........as does the VA depending on the file.........

Good Luck,

I don't think you will be dissapointed in either one.


T:cool: NY
Is there any problem with inadequate fuel supply using either of these with an otherwise stock truck? Thanks.

Not with the Oj there isn't. I would dout there is with the Va but don't know.

I wouldnt run the 125 juice or the 125 VA on a stock trans and expect it to live a long and happy life. JMO

If you dodnt get an attitude you can still have it be adjustable, one level in TH and one level in regular.

Switchable is nice but IMO based on the program its not really needed. With the juice it was kinda a pain to plow and to controll it in nasty weather set to 90. No big deal though i would just click it down. With the TTS Extreme it is a PITA to plow with it set to kill but in but the "tow" tune(80hp rated) is very controlable. If i had a stock type truck and someone said here is the tow tune but you cant turn it off I would live a very happy life. I duno how controlable the VA is with every day driving set to a 90ish hp setting? I dont like to bounce around power leves though, I leave it set in Extreme 99% of the time(unless I'm plowing), the allison has a hard enough time figuring out what I'm doing, I dont want to try to confuse it furthur

I would try to try out each tuner to see what you like better. Might be able to find someone with one you could borrow too. Just give em awhile to figure out the shifting before you make a decision.

The 125 Juice with a beefed transmission will put out around 145HP. The problem is, the TQ that it makes is enough to easily cross the line with the Allison.

The general release files for the VA (non race) have been tuned so that the TQ does not cross 700lb/ft (or at least not as aggressively) an attempt to save the stock transmission. This is not to say that the VA is weak in any way. The Edge 125 is very underrated, and if used on the stock transmission it wil take it's toll over time as will the comparably powered VA 150. It all depends on how you drive.