Anyone here running the 6.5 setup yet?

The system looks very impressive. Check out www.fs2500.com and download the videos of the soot in oil tests. Really amazing.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with FS2500 in any way shape or form.

I have to say that is most impressive.... Makes me want one.

I know competitors are at least the same price, but why is it so expensive? $499

Also, didn't see any replacement elements, which you still need to change every 10k or so miles, how much are those?

Excellent question Matt about the replacement elements... Dunno where to get them or $.

Here is the Heath weblink at well to the product.

http://www.heathdiesel.com/P/HDP1639/

got one for the burb haven't installed it yet, my amsoil unit is good for 20K oil intervals with oil testing also part of the routine, will be installing FS2500 soon on the Burb and make some comparative results between it & amsoil

On my 05 Duramax I went with the Amsoil Kit for under $200 for the full kit (prefered customer price) I personally think the fs2500 is ridiculously over priced.

We will be running a special on our new FS-2500 kit for a short time the price will be reduced to $399.00. I am also adding the replacement elements to the site today and will cost $19.99. The FS kit is more expensive than the amsoil kit however when you recieve the FS kit you will quickly realize the high quality and attention to detail given to every FS kit. If you have any question on the FS kit or any of our products please call me at 877-894-6266 or email ian@heathdiesel.com

Regards,

Ian Carver

We will be running a special on our new FS-2500 kit for a short time the price will be reduced to $399.00. I am also adding the replacement elements to the site today and will cost $19.99. The FS kit is more expensive than the amsoil kit however when you recieve the FS kit you will quickly realize the high quality and attention to detail given to every FS kit. If you have any question on the FS kit or any of our products please call me at 877-894-6266 or email ian@heathdiesel.com

Regards,

Ian Carver

Since the obvious competitor is the Amsoil system, what would you say are the competitive advantages of the FS2500? Are you saying that the FS is more well-built? Does it provide superior filtration to the Amsoil unit? It is about 2x the price.

Thanks Ian,

Rob :)

FS2500 is very nicely assembeled as is amsoil, my amsoil came with braided cloth vs stainless hose which is one reason for cost difference, return on FS 2500 is via oil filler neck so stainless braded hose is longer than amsoil's, vs internal porting vlave body/orifice used in amsoil kit & shorter cloth hoses, which is better who knows, it will take at least 3000 miles running on burb for me to pull samples I just pulled sample on truck 3300 miles 146K on engine, as luck would have it burb almost same exact miles so once FS2500 is installed in 3300 miles I'll pull sample on Burb and we'll have side by side comparision of the 2 systems.

Only negative I have and why opted to keep amsoil on the truck was that the amsoil setup moves the primary filter away from block & off of the 90 degree adapter that makes for a PITA filter change on 4x4 trucks, FS2500 keeps primary in original location, and just remotes the bypass filter.

I reported this to FS & Heath and possibly a improved setup remoting both primary & bypass may come later, but for now it's still gonna be a PITA for dealing with primary filt on K trucks

Only negative I have and why opted to keep amsoil on the truck was that the amsoil setup moves the primary filter away from block & off of the 90 degree adapter that makes for a PITA filter change on 4x4 trucks, FS2500 keeps primary in original location, and just remotes the bypass filter.

I reported this to FS & Heath and possibly a improved setup remoting both primary & bypass may come later, but for now it's still gonna be a PITA for dealing with primary filt on K trucks

Hi Tim,

I've been leaning towards putting the Amsoil on the 'burb, as it is relatively inexpensive, and has the cool 'oil precharger' accessory, which I have always thought was a great idea. (Yes, I understand that most 6.5s die from something other than dry-start wear). I also noted that the Amsoil remotes the main filter, which is a big plus. Are the specs on each unit different? Does the FS actually filter any more than the Amsoil? Hmmm.

I'll be fascinated to see results of your test.

Thanks,

Rob :)

I can only say what the FS system is capable of and stand up for its quality. As for the Amsoil system I have no comment nore will I put it down in any way shape or form. We have decided to work with FS and can only speak for that product. We spent many hours putting together a system that works exeptionally well for the 6.5 application. There is an informative article/install of the new FS system in the latest issue of maxxTorque for anyone who would like to see how the system is applied.

If you look at the clips on the www.fs2500.com they claim to filter much better then the two leading competitors which is Amsoil and FleetGuard but the test might be rigged so who knows. I personally will most likely go with Amsoil because i use there motor oil and filters already and just like to keep all the same brand plus it seems to be about half the cost. If it does show that it s better in the long run them maybe i will use there setup in the future plus price might come down in the future.

Hi Tim,

Are the specs on each unit different? Does the FS actually filter any more than the Amsoil?

I'll be fascinated to see results of your test.

Thanks,

Rob :)

Didn't even look, to be honest, just saw Heath had it and figured I'd give it a try, was going to put it on the new truck engine but since it doesn't remote the primary it will go on the burb instead

I've ran the Amsoil for many years. One good part is the size of filters that can be used on the amsoil. I use the Baldwin BT251 and B164 By-pass filters. + eazy filter changing.

On my 05 Duramax I went with the Amsoil Kit for under $200 for the full kit (prefered customer price) I personally think the fs2500 is ridiculously over priced.
Word...

For those running either package, do you find (as shown in the FS2500 demo) that it actually cuts down on the visible soot - i.e. does it actually make the oil translucent again? Or was the demo using much larger particles than normal?

Sincerely,

Rob :)

[quote=TurboTahoe;2550454]Hi Tim,

I've been leaning towards putting the Amsoil on the 'burb, as it is relatively inexpensive, and has the cool 'oil precharger' accessory, which I have always thought was a great idea. (Yes, I understand that most 6.5s die from something other than dry-start wear). I also noted that the Amsoil remotes the main filter, which is a big plus. Are the specs on each unit different? Does the FS actually filter any more than the Amsoil? Hmmm.

I'll be fascinated to see results of your test.

Thanks,

Go watch the video's on the site. It appears to even take the the filtered Amsoil oil, and refilters it again and makes it clear again.

Also about the primary, You only need to change the primary filter when you change your engine oil.

On the Road Rig example, they said 60k, (180k synthetic) intervals

While changing the FS Element every 10k

Of course, we dont' put nearly the miles on our trucks, so I would have to think you still would want to change your oil every 3-6 months anyhow so it doesn't face age problems which i read about ? (it waxes or soemthing)...

Plus don't want the primary oil filter (GM one) to rot :)
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In the video from FS it seemed to destroy the Fleetguard and Amsoil systems.

Again I cannot say that the video is rigged or not... But it seems legit to me.

From the FS video it seems that a regular pick-up could get 20Kish before needed an oil change on Rotella T. Right now I change the oil + filter every 5K.

For $399 it seems worth a shot. I may just order one for the 96 and if it works out get one for the 99 later.

... Now where is my new issue of maxxTorque!

Thanks!

Lets look at quantitatives:

Anyone seen info on the filter media?
Thats were the work is done, the finer the filter, the better the job cleaning. The maxxTorque article stated the FS is rated under 3 micron, impressive.
For the same media mesh size, the larger the filter the longer the service life should be.

The other feature that would make a difference, to a lesser extent, is the flow rate through the bypass. Too much flow hurts oil pressure, too little limits hurts cleaning by reducing the the number of oil cycles in a given amount of time.

After that, as noted by TD, is the hardware and connections into the engine.

A bypass system is the way to go for extending oil service intervals.

If the filtering rates are similar, then the decision comes to the install and hardware.

TD, will be looking forward to your results.

JMiller, I don't understand how having a bypass setup, which by definition is not in the oil pressure path the way a full-flow unit is, would compromise oil pressure to the engine?

Rob :)

Bypass filters almost always go straight back to the crankcase.

Too much flow can out pace the oil pump capacity, dropping oil pressure.

Can this happen?? don't know I haven't messed with one. Flow would only an issue if you built your own bypass filter. ( which I've thought about doing, because I tend to be a cheap SOB)

A kit will handle it with either a built in restrictor or the restriction of the filter media or oil line diameter. Its simple hydralics, that I do know something about.

[quote=jmiller;2551964]Lets look at quantitatives:

Anyone seen info on the filter media?
Thats were the work is done, the finer the filter, the better the job cleaning. The maxxTorque article stated the FS is rated under 3 micron, impressive.
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The filater appears to be layers of media that start with the large on the outside, and as it works inwards on the filter, it goes down to under 3. So its layered.

IF anyone is still reading this thread and havn't watched the video demo, scroll up go to the site in first post and watch the demo.

Interesting thread.

I installed the Amsoil dual filter system on my Suburban about 10 years ago and have been very happy with it. I have the oil analysis plots for each oil drain and I have NEVER exceeded the soot limits as far as I know.

I'm also very please in that my oil changes have decreased to an annual change (memorial day) whether it needs it or not. Regular service intervals helps my failing memory!

Both of my filters are located on the transmission cross frame support (horizontally) and makes changing the oil and filters a snap.

The FS system has got visual attractiveness but I'm not really interested in bling for my vehicle.

I am not bashing it, if Heath offers it, it's got merit, just different customer needs are being provided.

I'll be awaiting Turbine_Doc's report....

AutoX, how many miles do you run in a year for a yearly oil change?

Does the Amsoil system have a comparable micron rating?

... Granted the video from FS is very impressive. And is a head to head with Amsoil.

Thanks!

Only negative I have and why opted to keep amsoil on the truck was that the amsoil setup moves the primary filter away from block & off of the 90 degree adapter that makes for a PITA filter change on 4x4 trucks, FS2500 keeps primary in original location, and just remotes the bypass filter.

I reported this to FS & Heath and possibly a improved setup remoting both primary & bypass may come later, but for now it's still gonna be a PITA for dealing with primary filt on K trucks

As a proud owner of a 4x4 6.5, I can say that even if the Amsoil unit is 90% as good as the FS2500, getting a solution to %$#@!*&^ 90 degree stock filter adapter would be enough to go with the Amsoil.

I am used to my opinion not mattering, just ask my wife. :D:D:D