ok, so im most likely purchasing a 03 GMC 2500HD LB7 Duramax from my brother, well i installed a BD manifold, Egt/boost gauges, and the 6 gun for him a while back (yea i know, if i get it i plan on losing the 6gun for EFI live most likely)

well anyway he decided to install the speed loader/egt on his own

well he just put the banks egt wire on the same probe as the gauges :Nonono:

well as you can imagine the readings were not correct, so he left the truck at home for me to test drive, before even starting it up, first thing i did was un hook the Banks egt wire, from the probe (left the gauge hooked up), figured it would just disable the speed loader

took it for a drive, well all 6 levels all felt STOCK, i mean i wasnt expecting a huge power, but they all felt the same

so i look under the dash and the banks box is flashing a code - 2/3=EGT problem,

well ok, so i figure, duh; the speed loader requires the egt, so if i remove it, the standard 6gun will work as normal, so i unplug the speed loader, and do the learning process, still flashes the code, i even unplugged the entire box, let it sit for 10 min figuring it would clear the mem, NOPE

so basically i want to know if there is anyway to reset the banks 6gun to work as JUST the 6gun, not needing the egt probe
sorry for the long post, thanks for any help

If the 6 Gun previously has had the thermocouple hooked up it expects to get a reading from it either wise it will assume it has failed and return to stock power. You can connect the two lead wires previously connected to the thermocouple. This should trick the tuner to thinking the thermocouple is there.

If the 6 Gun previously has had the thermocouple hooked up it expects to get a reading from it either wise it will assume it has failed and return to stock power. You can connect the two lead wires previously connected to the thermocouple. This should trick the tuner to thinking the thermocouple is there.
you mean just straight connect them together? i wonder what reading that would send to the 6gun? i mean the pyrometer works off of resistance right? so that it sends a different voltage signal back to the box to tell it what temperature, so having it jumped together i guess it would either be reading completely zero, or maxed out? i know if it reads maxed out it would cut power (reason its there in the first place), and i dont know what it would do if read zero, guess worst it could do is keep giving me the fault code

thanks

anyway does anyone know how to just reset the whole unit? so that it forgets the egt was ever plugged in?, i unplugged it, and left it sitting un hooked for the night, i will see what it does tomorrow afternoon i guess

http://assets.bankspower.com/manuals/7/96446.pdf

Review page 18 Speed Loader learning sequence. A1-A4 It appears this needs to be done as well since you removed the Speed Loader. The 6 Gun must have the thermocouple hooked up for the Speed Loader to work. So you should be able to hook the Speed Loader back up after you connect the two wires.

I missed that you said you already know about the learning process

I missed that you said you already know about the learning process
ya i tried it, thanks anyway, i simply want to reset it back to being just the 6gun, no thermocouple, no speed loader, atleast till i get time to drill/tap the other manifold, or better yet get efi live

well update, left it unplugged overnight, plugged it all back in, same error, did what you suggested and jumped the thermocouple wires together, same error, well ill call banks when i get time i guess, but im thinking im out of luck till i get the second thermocouple installed

Im removing my banks kit to sell it tonight so I would like to know the same thing. IM keeping my gauges which means Im keeping my egt probe and i dont want to screw somebody and the six-gun not work on their truck. I have the speed loader too

Im removing my banks kit to sell it tonight so I would like to know the same thing. IM keeping my gauges which means Im keeping my egt probe and i dont want to screw somebody and the six-gun not work on their truck. I have the speed loader too
did you have your egt gauge and your six gun connected to the same probe? :think:

thats why im having this problem, my brother hooked both to the same probe, not knowing it would alter the readings, and now that i temporarily disconnected the 6guns wire from the probe, it doesnt work at all because of that code, and i cant find any way to fix it.

well, called banks, they said there is no way to reset it without sending the box to them, guess im drilling/tapping for a 2nd thermocouple this weekend, till then, stock power on all 6 settings:knight:

well, called banks, they said there is no way to reset it without sending the box to them, guess im drilling/tapping for a 2nd thermocouple this weekend, till then, stock power on all 6 settings:knight:

Didn't you try connecting the six gun to the thermocouple and your gauge to the six gun like i told you yesterday on the phone?

Didn't you try connecting the six gun to the thermocouple and your gauge to the six gun like i told you yesterday on the phone?
haha that was you? no not yet, i wont have time to try until the weekend, i will try that first, and if not, i will do the 2nd thermocouple, but only thing about hooking the gauge up through the output of the 6gun, is like you said, im not completely sure it will still get the correct signal,

im probably gonna make some runs today on my ride home, and take note of where the egts are at during idle, and under acceleration at different loads, to compare it to what i get with the gauge connected to the 6gun, if it comes out right, ill just leave it that way

thanks for your help

Okay dont knwo if this helps at all but in my manual for the Dynafact gauges it says the gauges wont even work without being hooked up through the six gun and/or speedloader. Was planning on taking it out but i wanted to keep the gauges. Not so sure now.

Ok, I will like some clarification….Please. I have a Dakota Digital EGT gauge and I’m waiting for the 6-gun with speed loader to come in the mail any day now. I was planning to drill the driver side manifold to install a second probe.


Are you guys saying there is a way to install both the 6-gun/Speed Loader and the Gauge to read off the same probe? In other words the probe to the Speed Loader to the gauge.

Were on the speed loader do I connect the gauge to?

Ok, I will like some clarification….Please. I have a Dakota Digital EGT gauge and I’m waiting for the 6-gun with speed loader to come in the mail any day now. I was planning to drill the driver side manifold to install a second probe.


Are you guys saying there is a way to install both the 6-gun/Speed Loader and the Gauge to read off the same probe? In other words the probe to the Speed Loader to the gauge.

Were on the speed loader do I connect the gauge to?

no.... Banks doesnt play well with others...most other gauges will work with different probes but Banks only works with banks stuff...

yep, negative on the autometer gauge working through the 6gun outputs, it simply pegged the gauge WELL BELOW ZERO, never moved,

the six gun is now hooked up through the original autometer probe, and working fine, but no egt gauge:mad:

ironically, with the gauge and six gun both hooked up on the same probe, and on stock setting, i was getting roughly the same readings as just the gauge hooked up, on stock settings, i checked it at idle, under part, and full throttle, under the same load conditions, stayed pretty much the same, im gonna temporarily leave it this way until i drill/tap for the 2nd thermocouple, i dont plan on any towing for the next couple weeks anyway

ironically, with the gauge and six gun both hooked up on the same probe, and on stock setting, i was getting roughly the same readings as just the gauge hooked up, on stock settings, i checked it at idle, under part, and full throttle, under the same load conditions, stayed pretty much the same, im gonna temporarily leave it this way until i drill/tap for the 2nd thermocouple, i dont plan on any towing for the next couple weeks anyway

Hmmmm, so base on this statement is it safe to assume that both the gauge and 6-gun can read correctly out of one probe????

yep, negative on the autometer gauge working through the 6gun outputs, it simply pegged the gauge WELL BELOW ZERO, never moved,

the six gun is now hooked up through the original autometer probe, and working fine, but no egt gauge:mad:

ironically, with the gauge and six gun both hooked up on the same probe, and on stock setting, i was getting roughly the same readings as just the gauge hooked up, on stock settings, i checked it at idle, under part, and full throttle, under the same load conditions, stayed pretty much the same, im gonna temporarily leave it this way until i drill/tap for the 2nd thermocouple, i dont plan on any towing for the next couple weeks anyway




When I talked to Banks the other day, they told me other brand gauges wouldn't work w/six-gun cause if you hook it up in parallel then you get inaccurate readings. but if you hook up the gauge through the six-gun, only the banks gauge will work. Something about the six-gun putting out a 1mA output as opposed to the thermocouple putting out the 1volt. Hope this helps explain it a bit.