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Got Juice?
01-31-2005, 07:56 PM
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO WOWOWOWOWOWOW

OMG!:eek:
Tight:ro)
Gonna Drive tomorrow:ro)

Someone pass me a beer...... or some Absinthe..... I need to recharge the saliva..... Stefan needs to wash his truck now.... OMG!
OMG!

Can't say anything..... Can't Post Pictures, No Fun at all!
I can't stand it!


BUT.. they definately have their poop together......wait until the release date.
Will be testing them in 2 weeks.
Sorry, only one Beta Testing whore (Mackin's term) Per Planet.

05LLY2500HD
01-31-2005, 08:17 PM
Holy shiznit batdog! Calmate! (if that's spelt right?) You got me all worked up. AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Ok twins, YEAHHHHH!! I'm asuming it's an LB7????

Minn-Kota
01-31-2005, 08:18 PM
:nopics:

_nar_
01-31-2005, 08:30 PM
mmm twins...:drool: :drop_mout

Got Juice?
01-31-2005, 08:36 PM
Holy shiznit batdog! Calmate! (if that's spelt right?) You got me all worked up. AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Ok twins, YEAHHHHH!! I'm asuming it's an LB7????
Stefan's Truck is an LLY

Mine is an LB7

Will post pics of the first DTT Twin Turbo Duramax Tomorrow... it is night time and the sun has set.

:ro)

Trippin
01-31-2005, 08:42 PM
I like....... trucks with Dur-A-Max

Chicks with great big racks

and Twins!:eyecrazy:

05LLY2500HD
01-31-2005, 08:42 PM
10-4 batdog:Pshyco: :D .

dpower
01-31-2005, 08:49 PM
Can't wait to see the pics!!

Duratys
01-31-2005, 08:55 PM
CALLING ON THE "BETA TEST WHORE":ro)









WHAT ABOUT THE STAGE 2 !:muahaha:

Idaho CTD
02-01-2005, 12:08 AM
Since I talk to Stefan not too long ago I'll give you a little data he relayed to me. Max egt before twins was 1500* with the predator. Now the max is 1100* with 36psi of boost. Cruising egt's (I dont know what mph he was running but it was freeway speeds. I'd assume around 70mph) are running around 580* which is down as well but how much I dont know. Now if he'd remove that D@MN cat and muffler things might be even better. He can add more tomorrow if I missed anything.

Burner
02-01-2005, 01:44 AM
Had twins once........... needed more fuel.):h

How about you, Juice?

fredw
02-01-2005, 02:45 AM
i heard he is around the 50lbs with no problems, thats like xxxhp:D and our heads gaskets are holding:ro)

hoot
02-01-2005, 06:20 AM
50 would be typical for most of these engines. PSD and Cummins both hold that stock. Question now is how long can it handle multiple cycles.

Mackin
02-01-2005, 06:34 AM
50 would be typical for most of these engines. PSD and Cummins both hold that stock. Question now is how long can it handle multiple cycles.

Right before the H/B stretch. :eek:

At what point do the Cummings lift?

Idaho CTD
02-01-2005, 10:18 AM
With my new truck I make 62psi and have probably made 200+ pulls to that boost level. I do have studs in my truck though. I do know a guy that blew his headgasket running 80psi daily. He had studs in his truck as well.

Got Juice?
02-01-2005, 11:43 AM
Nathan... you da man.... when charger #2 lights off.... it's unreal.
To the rest of the Dieselplace members... you can't get that sound out of a bottle!

McRat
02-01-2005, 12:04 PM
On the LLY setup, is it using the stock turbo + another turbo in sequence? Or will the kit have 2 turbos?

Max Power
02-01-2005, 12:14 PM
Stock + another

Got Juice?
02-01-2005, 12:33 PM
On the LLY setup, is it using the stock turbo + another turbo in sequence? Or will the kit have 2 turbos?Stock LLY Turbo and another unknown turbo that pushes some seriously big air!:ro)

Stefan K
02-01-2005, 12:48 PM
What's the most boost that someone has seen with an LLY or LB7, yesterday I made 36psi just passing someone of the highway no heavy accel or anything. This was done with just the predator, no edge. I've got the regulators set at 50psi, but I don't know if the truck will handle that much. If it blows my Dad will say that was a :badidea: and you can fix it. :help:

ratlover
02-01-2005, 01:21 PM
Ask juice what he has seen with his WG juicegripped ):h

I crank 32 with an unmodded WG on my factory turbo. AFE stage 2 and exhaust with a TTS extreme.

measured at the WG line, pre IC and such

DSTRBD
02-01-2005, 01:49 PM
I have hit 35 w/ Juice/attitude combo. All other boxes seem to be right at 25.

BIGBLOCKBILL
02-01-2005, 02:48 PM
You guys are killin me,I want to know,no I need to know,when,where,and how much. This setup sounds like it would be awesome on my truck. Are you sure you don't need a second LLY tester?:help:

gslam88
02-01-2005, 02:49 PM
I still don't see any pictures as promised

carterkraft
02-01-2005, 03:43 PM
I have seen 56 psi on a fast truck with a huge single. Twins should be awesome. Let us see the pictures!

NorCal 2500HD
02-01-2005, 03:47 PM
Yeah we want pictures!!!!!

Got Juice?
02-01-2005, 04:00 PM
Ask juice what he has seen with his WG juicegripped ):h

I crank 32 with an unmodded WG on my factory turbo. AFE stage 2 and exhaust with a TTS extreme.

measured at the WG line, pre IC and suchJuicegrips(TM) =47PSI=Boom=Ebay Browser/IHI Turbo browser.


Pics will be forthcoming..... patience guys, I am working in the machine shop making cross sections and brackets (you don't wait at DTT with your thumb up your butt.....they will find a job for you to do.)

Having a great time... wish you guys were here.... Y'all must be in.. AGONY waiting to see the pics Eh?....(Playing Devil Incarnate here) Ahh well.... the trials and tribulations of being a 'beta test whore'
Now, if you'll excuse me, back to the shop I go... and i am taking a big cup of STCensored U with me:lol:

J

fredw
02-01-2005, 04:17 PM
juice you just hit 2000 posts, holy crap,:eek: remember to send a few threw msn
:ro)

Got Juice?
02-01-2005, 04:22 PM
Pic#1

ratlover
02-01-2005, 04:23 PM
Hey Juice:devilfing Quit FCensored ing with us and show some pics already:mad:


):h

Edit: Like my last date, such a Censored tease. Get me all excited and then nothing but some lame excuse.

BTW guys, sheep dont get headaches do they?:confused:

Got Juice?
02-01-2005, 04:32 PM
juice you just hit 2000 posts, holy crap,:eek: remember to send a few threw msn
:ro)
WOW.... 2000 Posts... Amazing.
I guess i am just a glutton for punishment;)

DTT is so close to releasing their TWINS it isn't funny. IIRC they will be releasing BOTH Kits LB7 and LLY setups in the same relative timeframe after we do some testing on my DMX that we all know doesn't make over 500RWHP (LOL)

Nathan for sure will do that tuning before it is released in kit form. Something about so much fuel, fast spool, controlling the upper limit boost# etc.

The LLY even as fuel starved as it is at the moment lights this charger quite nicely (coeurtesy of the LLY VNT turbo helping 'Big Momma' with spool time)

You guys are gonna be impressed.....Enough so that you'll kick your Laughing Gas Addiction.:eek: ):h

PEANUTGRWR
02-01-2005, 05:20 PM
JUICE DAMMIT HURRY UP WITH THE PICS IM GETTING BLUE BALLS!!!!!!!:eek:

fredw
02-01-2005, 05:28 PM
now that is funny):h ):h ):h , i bet juices must be draging on the floor):h ):h ):h


JUICE DAMMIT HURRY UP WITH THE PICS IM GETTING BLUE BALLS!!!!!!!:eek:

McRat
02-01-2005, 06:42 PM
Well we know they didn't put the second turbo on the hood, grill, bumper or dashboard.

Mike L.
02-01-2005, 07:14 PM
[QUOTE=






BTW guys, sheep dont get headaches do they?:confused:[/QUOTE]
Phil
Always keep your Wellingtons handy.:help2:

dpower
02-01-2005, 09:07 PM
I absolutely can't wait...hoot....I am pretty sure a ford can't hold 50 psi with out some mod time...actually I am pretty positive.

duramaxdiesel
02-01-2005, 11:46 PM
Juice, where's the pics dude? I'm going insane.

partsguy662
02-01-2005, 11:49 PM
I think we should start a lynch mob to go after juice..he has baited us and kept up us hanging for too long...Who's with me here? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/nutkick.gif

diesel man
02-01-2005, 11:52 PM
good idea . lets get him . this has gone on long enough .

_nar_
02-02-2005, 12:04 AM
Ah but you know if we bother to go up where he is, we might as well get some twins on our trucks too eh?

Idaho CTD
02-02-2005, 12:16 AM
Geeez you guys are worse then kids in a toy store. Oh wait this is a toy store lol. Just so you know I wont build you a set just cuz you lynched Juice. You might steal his after he's lynched but he still has to wait for me to build them for him to begin with (Juicey I just bought you some time man :) ).

gslam88
02-02-2005, 12:27 AM
Guys,

I don't know about you.. but proof is in the pictures... as long as they are not photoshoped

Pete

joefarmer
02-02-2005, 03:31 AM
Just so you know I wont build you a set just cuz you lynched Juice. You might steal his after he's lynched but he still has to wait for me to build them for him to begin with (Juicey I just bought you some time man :) ).I don't see what the big fuss is about? I'm running a set of Idaho CTD's twins already. Oh wait... they're on the Dodge. ):h

If the Dmax twins can be tuned like the current twins, I think I know another black dmax w/ twins in the future.

brandon.

john@dps
02-02-2005, 11:50 AM
Well, if any of these guys will tell me where the trucks are. I will drive up there and take a picture of them; since no one involved appears to own a camera. ;)

Got Juice?
02-02-2005, 12:57 PM
Patience guys..... they will be coming to a theatre near you!
Will get some sound bytes recorded . Who would like to host them?

ratlover
02-02-2005, 12:59 PM
tease :p:

Hired Gun
02-02-2005, 01:02 PM
Come on Juice. Post a pic of a set of twins. Not much around them just beautiful twins. Oh wait I am thinking with another brain!

Got Juice?
02-02-2005, 01:06 PM
They are on Stefan's truck (mine very soon) And i will somehow post some soundclips.
Maybe a video of Stefan's boost gauge on its climb!

His truck SOTP feels as fast with the predator on high as mine does with the CJuice cranked to 5x5!

but... his EGT's are only 1000F accelerating past 75 mph..... mine are 1400+

Keep in mind Stefan is still running stock exhaust and a cat!:eek:

MileHighCTD
02-02-2005, 04:13 PM
Still a little tight lipped right now, but I will give more info later.

MileHighCTD
02-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Just to let everyone know these are not DTT's in my previous post, I hope I didn't cause any confusion!! This particular truck also has a high pinion Dana 60 with leaves, no more IFS.

blue68383
02-02-2005, 04:28 PM
If those arent DTTs than who makes that kit? Is it available to the public? More info please.

MileHighCTD
02-02-2005, 04:38 PM
They will be available very soon, just running some tests before releasing.

Stefan K
02-02-2005, 06:11 PM
That set-up is nothing like mine.:ro) Although best of luck on that set-up.

For those wondering we should have these set-ups ready in roughly 6 weeks, it's in my truck and runs great will be on juices very shortly so that we can provide something for the LLY and LB7's. The reason I haven't shown any pics is because I don't want to have people R & D'ing (Rob and Duplicating) this set-up.

Thanks for the saying Trip.:ro)

I will have Juice take a Sound Clip today of my under fueled over air'd lly.:ro)

Z71 Grizzly
02-02-2005, 06:20 PM
Hey Mile High, In the pic you posted is that a boost fooler in between the twins in anodized blue? Is that an LB7 or LLY?

Brayden
02-02-2005, 06:29 PM
External Wastegate I would imagine....

Brayden
02-02-2005, 06:37 PM
Now for some questions for the Twins experts.

I've measured drive pressures over 100 PSI :eek: in my 04.5 LLY. Full throttle run to 80 or so with Juice on KILL (which isn't really much).

How are you getting around the drive pressure issue of the factory turbo?

Is the new charger the before the VNT as far as exhaust routing is concerned?

Not trying to divulge info, but I'm amazed that it is workable with the factory turbo/turbine housing. Rocky mountain diesel is supposed to be working on a larger turbine housing for the VNT in the 6.0L which is the same charger as we use, as you well know.

Thanks for any info you can provide,

Brayden

dpfcummins
02-02-2005, 07:00 PM
There is no way to drop drive pressures on the stock charger enough, the exhaust housing is too small and restrictive. The performance of the big charger is going to be limited by the ability to get the exhaust to the big charger, been there done that with an LB7. What's that little 50lb boost gauge for anyways,lol. Matt

dpfcummins
02-02-2005, 07:09 PM
Just for the guys that dont messure drive pressure or dont really have an idea of what they should be @. To have a good turbo setup your backpressure vs. boost readings should be @ 1:1. So yeah Brayden your drive pressure is:eek: . But thats what the stock charger gives us unless they get a different exhaust housing out. Just remember backpressure will pop a head gasket just like boost. Matt

Brayden
02-02-2005, 07:24 PM
Garrett must make larger turbine housings for this turbo? Right... Anybody have the exact model name etc for our turbo?

LBZrcks
02-02-2005, 08:18 PM
This particular truck also has a high pinion Dana 60 with leaves, no more IFS.
My buddys HD has a D60 with leaves aswell. way better for offroading, haven't been able to break it yet.:ro)

Idaho CTD
02-02-2005, 09:15 PM
Still a little tight lipped right now, but I will give more info later.


I guess to properly phrase it the twins on Stefans truck are actually compounded turbos not twins. It has become common to call them twins in the diesel world despite the fact that they are actually compounded. I see that the ones you posted pictures of are actual twins (or parallel) turbos. Interesting concept and I hope it works out for whomever is building them. The Cummins guys haven't had much success with it but that doesn't mean it cant be done successfully.

Trippin
02-02-2005, 09:30 PM
Thanks for the saying Tripp.

If nothing else I'm good for a good quote now and then.

:D

Diesel Tech
02-02-2005, 09:46 PM
The reason I haven't shown any pics is because I don't want to have people R & D'ing (Rob and Duplicating) this set-up.

Thanks for the saying Trip.:ro)
I've always been kind of fond of Ripoff and Duplicate but Rob and Duplicate is pretty close too.

mole177
02-04-2005, 04:20 AM
still no pictures :(

can any of you twin charged guys get a snapshot of your psi gauge at high psi numbers?

Trippin
02-04-2005, 10:35 AM
OK, somebody send me a PM when this thread actually has pictures in it. Maybe a dyno graph or two.


I'm tired of being teased. I'm going to go find a sheep now. :D

:sheephump



Hey Juice can I least get a lap dance? :eek::D


:nopics:

PEANUTGRWR
02-04-2005, 11:30 AM
Juice, Can I Atleast Get A Reach-around Ggezzzzzzzzzz

gslam88
02-04-2005, 11:32 AM
Well the link that someone posted here was from 5/2004... so it looks like not much has changed in 9 months

Pete

wsucowboy
02-04-2005, 12:07 PM
why is it sooo hard for people to believe that DTT has built a set of twins??:rant:

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 01:00 PM
why is it sooo hard for people to believe that DTT has built a set of twins??:rant:
Probably the same reason it was hard to believe my 550RWHP dyno?

Jeff, they are sweeeeeeeeeeeet:ro)

You might have to give up your sheep habit in order to get them though.:blahblah:

BTW, Stage2 is afully nice:offtopic:

wsucowboy
02-04-2005, 01:07 PM
Probably the same reason it was hard to believe my 550RWHP dyno?

Jeff, they are sweeeeeeeeeeeet:ro)

You might have to give up your sheep habit in order to get them though.:blahblah:

BTW, Stage2 is afully nice:offtopic:ya, its gonna be tough, i just bought a new pair of rubber boots that are a couple sizes too big, (if ya know what those are for:lol: )

when are ya gonna be down here so I can go for a ride in a rig that actually has the tranny I am gonna get here as soon as I can afford it?:help:

:offtopic: BTW, I sure do like the way this stack smokes, did ya see IDHORSEHAULERS post over on the NWbombers? I smoked him good:D :offtopic:

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 01:11 PM
when are ya gonna be down here so I can go for a ride in a rig that actually has the tranny I am gonna get here as soon as I can afford it?:help:

BTW, I sure do like the way this stack smokes, did ya see IDHORSEHAULERS

Are you coming to Rob's BOMB Party?
Should be there then, and i am gonna be sporting twins by then (hopefully)
Then you can try out the whole 9 yards.
No Pics, but i will lift the hood for you to look at them.
Might be interesting at Lenny's Dyno if some whup@ss is opened up on some sheeps:ro) all in good fun of course.

wsucowboy
02-04-2005, 01:17 PM
I would love to be there, but I have to work:mad: ah well, maybe next time, when is the next Spokane get-together?

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 01:22 PM
I would love to be there, but I have to work:mad: ah well, maybe next time, when is the next Spokane get-together?
IIRC Diesel Thunder is in August, PDR Dynomania is September.
Oh, and BD has one in the spring and fall as well.

Trippin
02-04-2005, 01:24 PM
Cowboy,

I don't doubt for a minute that they have built a compounded setup. It's the teasing that frustrates me. :help:

What is the title of this thread again? :D

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 01:44 PM
Cowboy,

I don't doubt for a minute that they have built a compounded setup. It's the teasing that frustrates me. :help:

What is the title of this thread again? :D
Hey!
I showed pictures..... they were screened by Nathan and DTT.


LOL... you'll be 'Trippin when you get your set installed Guy.... have yours been ordered yet?:ro)

Trippin
02-04-2005, 03:13 PM
Hey!
I showed pictures..... they were screened by Nathan and DTT.


LOL... you'll be 'Trippin when you get your set installed Guy.... have yours been ordered yet?:ro)
I can order my own?
Who do I have to know?
Tell em Juice sent me? Last time I mentioned your name when ordering it cost me double.:D

snowaholic
02-04-2005, 03:37 PM
What’s all to hullabaloo, I thought ATS had already built a set of twins for the Dmax. I know I remember seeing them on Clint's DMax a while ago. I know that they have built a new single charger (Aurora 5000) that runs that something like 46psi at 5200’ elevation.
:confuzeld:D

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 03:57 PM
I can order my own?
Who do I have to know?
Tell em Juice sent me? Last time I mentioned your name when ordering it cost me double.:D
LMAO!

Guy, you're killin me.:D Real soon you can order a set. Ya, don't mention me... I believe the going rate for mentioning my name now is Tripple):h


I took BillK for a ride... he was not impressed with the smoke (rainy road, 2WD 1/3 throttle) so i clicked 4x4 came to a stop... clicked 'stoopid' and laid the wood to her.

1500F before the 3-4 shift. He is really interested now on what the twins will do for us over fuelled, properly engined (LB7) trucks with the 'slight):h ' EGT problem.

Stefan K
02-04-2005, 04:40 PM
I believe Clints truck had the 2nd charger under the truck, which wouldn't work too well for most, so mine is nothing like that set-up. mine is all under the hood, and it looks nice and clean.:ro)

Trippin
02-04-2005, 05:42 PM
I believe Clints truck had the 2nd charger under the truck, which wouldn't work too well for most, so mine is nothing like that set-up. mine is all under the hood, and it looks nice and clean.:ro)
Darn near invisible, as far as we can tell! :D

Fred Swanson
02-04-2005, 05:58 PM
Stephan, will Juice have his when I'm there at the end of this month?

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 06:04 PM
Stephan, will Juice have his when I'm there at the end of this month?Already there and working on Stefans's truck!:ro)
Mine in 2 weeks

Fred Swanson
02-04-2005, 06:06 PM
Juice, you going to be around DTT's shop the week of Feb28th? I'd like to see them in action.

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 06:14 PM
Juice, you going to be around DTT's shop the week of Feb28th? I'd like to see them in action.
Hopefully I will be operational then... and do Rob Hanson'r BOMB PARTY (NWBombers thread under events in the works) and a little dyno at DPP after...

Take my little twin sporting underfuelled pony motor to spin the rollers!
Going to do 4 runs I hope.
Stock Baseline W Twins
Power Pup W Twins
Comp Juice W Twins
VA 'stoopid' box W Twins.

Lastly some absurd fuel.
Stacking the XXX Pup with the Comp Juice

That ought to be enough.
Then hopefully in time i will get a TTS EXTREME and then do a total comparison... Steve's ECM has to be excluded from testing, as i have seriously depleted my BOMBing Funds by then:(

BROKER
02-04-2005, 06:42 PM
Are you havin' a ball Juice !How is the rear end gona fair?:lol:

snowaholic
02-04-2005, 07:23 PM
I believe Clints truck had the 2nd charger under the truck, which wouldn't work too well for most, so mine is nothing like that set-up. mine is all under the hood, and it looks nice and clean.:ro)
So, I assume you will have verifiable Dyno numbers with and with out the twins setup? What are your boost numbers? Or will that all be top secret, too? :rolleyes:

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 07:31 PM
So, I assume you will have verifiable Dyno numbers with and with out the twins setup? What are your boost numbers? Or will that all be top secret, too? :rolleyes:
Geez I dunno, Piers's Dyno isn't good enough, Maddog's Being there isn't a good enough witness.... What do you have in mind for a verifiable dyno?
Who's Dyno is 100% without fail totally dead nuts accurate in your opinion?

If you wanna come to DPP book a flight....And i'll even pick you up at the airport.

Maybe you can 'verify' they have a dyno while you are up here?):h

wsucowboy
02-04-2005, 07:31 PM
So, I assume you will have verifiable Dyno numbers with and with out the twins setup? What are your boost numbers? Or will that all be top secret, too? :rolleyes:

just a question, but are you doubting that they exist?

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 07:34 PM
just a question, but are you doubting that they exist?Ignore it WAZZU

I'll swing by CDA or Spokane after the party if you do not make it. Call you up and you can go for a rip!

On Edit... the Boost#'s and Dyno numbers can be kept secret if you want it that way. Less competition then):h

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 07:38 PM
Are you havin' a ball Juice !How is the rear end gona fair?:lol:My REAR is fine... just ask Mike's Herd!):h


Or was that the truck's rear?:badidea:

snowaholic
02-04-2005, 07:42 PM
just a question, but are you doubting that they exist?
Heck no I do not doubt they exist, in fact I'm intrested in the preformance.;)

snowaholic
02-04-2005, 07:54 PM
Geez I dunno, Piers's Dyno isn't good enough, Maddog's Being there isn't a good enough witness.... What do you have in mind for a verifiable dyno?
Who's Dyno is 100% without fail totally dead nuts accurate in your opinion?

If you wanna come to DPP book a flight....And i'll even pick you up at the airport.

Maybe you can 'verify' they have a dyno while you are up here?):h
Is that your way of being defensive, or what? What I meant by that is Dyno’s can be tweaked with to show jacked numbers. I’m just asking to have the runs done with an independent observer that has nothing to gain. I’m sure the twins will make some sweet power; I just really want to know honest to goodness true numbers. Is that too much to ask?

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 08:11 PM
Is that your way of being defensive, or what? What I meant by that is Dyno’s can be tweaked with to show jacked numbers. I’m just asking to have the runs done with an independent observer that has nothing to gain. I’m sure the twins will make some sweet power; I just really want to know honest to goodness true numbers. Is that too much to ask?
Not too much to ask at all.
Who's dyno? I asked the question?
I have nothing to defend here.
When am i picking you up to observe?

wsucowboy
02-04-2005, 08:48 PM
Ignore it WAZZU

I'll swing by CDA or Spokane after the party if you do not make it. Call you up and you can go for a rip!

On Edit... the Boost#'s and Dyno numbers can be kept secret if you want it that way. Less competition then):h
I might still be in pullman, but if ya call me about an hour and a half before you get to spokane I might be able to make it up there:ro) -Jeff

Idaho CTD
02-04-2005, 09:00 PM
Is that your way of being defensive, or what? What I meant by that is Dyno’s can be tweaked with to show jacked numbers. I’m just asking to have the runs done with an independent observer that has nothing to gain. I’m sure the twins will make some sweet power; I just really want to know honest to goodness true numbers. Is that too much to ask?
The dyno Juice is going to be dynoing on is a Dynojet 248HW. It's a 100 slug inertia dyno. I've made 100+ runs on my own trucks on them and despite trying all kinds of techniques I have never found a way to squew/cheat on the results. Sure some techniques will show a little better results but if done consistently they are usually within 1-2hp of one another and none are radically different then the way everyone runs on a Dynojet. It's a dyno day and there will probably be close to 100 people there to verify the runs that Juice does. I dont know if there will be time to dyno before the install as we are both on somewhat tight timelines but if we can make it happen we will.

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 09:24 PM
LOL @ The DTT TWIN Detractor's

Sefan's Making a list
Nathan's Checking it twice
They're gonna read up on who's naughty or nice.
Then some will have stock singles .....for life!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif

They'll see what you've been posting
so much truth or dare.
And whining about pictures and a dyno with you not there!

So, you better not snipe
you are allowed to gripe
you better not spy I'm telling you why
Stefan and Nathan are coming to town!

(NOTICE SERVED LOL)


(Sing it to 'Santa Claus is coming to Town')

BROKER
02-04-2005, 10:11 PM
Hey you BC prick, how is the seat of the pants?

Got Juice?
02-04-2005, 10:12 PM
Hey you BC prick, how is the seat of the pants?
LOL
Dry... thanks to the sheep
Specifics... Turbos or Transmissions?

Burner
02-05-2005, 12:17 AM
We've got "Juice"... regular Juice, HOT Juice and Extra HOT Juice......... what do we call this newer version? ........ How many turbo's total?:eek: 4 or 5 poped and now you have two, right? Well, let's call it -- Juice version 2.45 -- or "Twin Juice V.2" or something? Gott'a have a name for this...:ro)

snowaholic
02-05-2005, 12:54 AM
LOL @ The DTT TWIN Detractor's

Sefan's Making a list
Nathan's Checking it twice
They're gonna read up on who's naughty or nice.
Then some will have stock singles .....for life!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/hihi.gif

They'll see what you've been posting
so much truth or dare.
And whining about pictures and a dyno with you not there!

So, you better not snipe
you are allowed to gripe
you better not spy I'm telling you why
Stefan and Nathan are coming to town!

(NOTICE SERVED LOL)


(Sing it to 'Santa Claus is coming to Town')
:funnypost That was funnny! Their not to far from Bend, Oregon so we'll see. Whether I’m there or not, really doesn’t matter. More than likely you wouldn’t like having me around anyway. :confuzeld

Steph or DTT or whomever isn't the first to develop twins or will be the last, what matters is the person or company that comes up with the best setup weather it be twins, compounds, or a honking single that makes the most power in the end. I’m just interested in seeing how it all plays out, but air is only one part of the equation, as we all know. We shall all see.

I can tell that if you ask a question about DTT or Steph that y’all get very defensive. Kinda like the crap I used to read on the TDR. :ThrowUp:

Idaho CTD
02-05-2005, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=snowaholic]what matters is the person or company that comes up with the best setup weather it be twins, compounds, or a honking single that makes the most power in the end.



Not everyone cares about who makes the most hp. Sure I think it is important for companies to make a good showing with their respective products but 99% of the people that buy aftermarket stuff for their trucks do not go to the extreme. Compounded/Twin turbos have become popular because they offer good driving characteristics with the ability to use a large portion or all of that hp constantly without egt issues. Twin turbos will never make as much hp as a single and nitrous can but you can use them every day without filling a bottle and you dont have to flip a switch or open a valve to have fun when you want to, just mash it and go. Drivability, to the average consumer, rates pretty high on most peoples list and that is why we went this route.

I do know a thing or two about hp as well so I think with the right canidate (juice for example) you'll see some pretty high #2 only numbers. Heck I might even get myself one of those Dmax's to play with. A 2wd standard cab LB7 sounds good but a LLY would be more of a challenge. If it were to end up with a 4 link and slicks then so be it ):h .

Mike L.
02-05-2005, 01:43 PM
Juice

Don't forget the extra pair of JuiceGrips-tm you are going to need. Bet you forgot.:exactly:

Got Juice?
02-05-2005, 05:26 PM
:funnypost That was funnny! Their not to far from Bend, Oregon so we'll see. Whether I’m there or not, really doesn’t matter. More than likely you wouldn’t like having me around anyway. :confuzeld

Steph or DTT or whomever isn't the first to develop twins or will be the last, what matters is the person or company that comes up with the best setup weather it be twins, compounds, or a honking single that makes the most power in the end. I’m just interested in seeing how it all plays out, but air is only one part of the equation, as we all know. We shall all see.

I can tell that if you ask a question about DTT or Steph that y’all get very defensive. Kinda like the crap I used to read on the TDR. :ThrowUp:
Bend Oregon! You are too close not to come!
Come on down, the more the merrier!

Ask any question about Stefan or DTT. All I know is they put me up in their house the last 2 days, Fed me, wined and dined me, Got to meet Lazer Bob from Colorado (DTT Installer, helluva nice guy too.... patience of jobe when we were doing that exhaust)

All i can comment on is my own positive experience at DTT, and i do know others would mimic that.

Everybody has their loyalties.... Everybody. I have found a lot of one's experience (DTT EDGE SUNCOAST PDR ATS TTS et al) Depends on 3 things.
Customer Satisfaction
Personal interaction
Value for the $$$$ Spent
And to that end, to each their own.
I am not looking to make the most power; but EGT relief will be nice, and the ability to take on McRat's Z06 (LOL @ MCR no offence, and no i ain't betting on it either until the cal tracs and sleeves are done)
Rant:OFF:D

Dmax Tim
02-06-2005, 05:18 AM
I spotted some twins and it's NOT a cummings

duramaxdiesel
02-06-2005, 10:28 AM
Cat??

PEANUTGRWR
02-06-2005, 10:41 AM
3406 E?

Dmax Tim
02-06-2005, 10:43 AM
Kitty c-15

McRat
02-06-2005, 12:02 PM
It's pretty tough to fool the Dynojet except by correction factor, and that is visible on the printout.

Many people trash the dynojet, but sometimes it's good not to have any adjustments.

McRat
02-06-2005, 12:05 PM
And Juice?

Why would you pick on a lowly 2v per cylinder 5.7 liter naturally aspirated car? ;)

You'd never win that one. The fuse would be hidden better, and I can go 150+ HP wetshot on a gasser.

Got Juice?
02-06-2005, 12:10 PM
And Juice?

Why would you pick on a lowly 2v per cylinder 5.7 liter naturally aspirated car? ;)

You'd never win that one. The fuse would be hidden better, and I can go 150+ HP wetshot on a gasser.
LOL.. you know as well as i do, that if i came knocking on your door at 10:00AM any given day, we'd be having breakfast, and loading up for a trip to the track!:ro)
I'd try to keep up the the Vette, but I am pretty sure it would smash me in the 1/4

Be a fun thing to try though:ro)

McRat
02-06-2005, 12:25 PM
I live my life a 1/4mi at a time.

I'm always up for a race. But usually I like being the underdog.

One thing I noticed from my nitrous dynos on the truck, is that more air seems to push the peak HP up the RPM scale. I didn't make peak HP before the revlimiter kicked in at 3400, it was still climbing. Maybe because it was nitrous, but I'd make sure you have a program in that can spin to 4000 just in case.

LaserBob
02-06-2005, 12:38 PM
Juice,

Good to meet you last week. I had a blast.

If you go racing you might take out some of the extra cargo, or not, It's kind of nice to beat someone and see the reaction when you show them about 1000# of stuff in the truck.

LaserBob

Dmax Tim
02-06-2005, 01:43 PM
Juice,

Good to meet you last week. I had a blast.

If you go racing you might take out some of the extra cargo, or not, It's kind of nice to beat someone and see the reaction when you show them about 1000# of stuff in the truck.

LaserBobOne of a handful of poeple in the world who have SEEN the DTT DMAX Twinshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif , as of Feb 05,05. (And ridden in the truckhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif )





TROLL ):h




























They said they killed anyone (except juice, he's blind) that had seen the twins ):h

Got Juice?
02-06-2005, 01:48 PM
Juice,

Good to meet you last week. I had a blast.

If you go racing you might take out some of the extra cargo, or not, It's kind of nice to beat someone and see the reaction when you show them about 1000# of stuff in the truck.

LaserBob
Bob,The pleasure was all mine! We sure had a blast on that exhaust install!:ro)
but i gotta say, I have never seen so many fingers inside of Allison all at once;)
Dang good time, an meeting good people makes the effort worthwhile!
Hope to make it down to Colorado one day and look you up Bob!
I have a feeling we will meet up again! Rumor has it you have enjoyed the ride in my DMX!..... darn thing is going to lose it's tiny cloud of smoke though:rolleyes:

Hope your flight went well!
Only took me 15 hours to get home.... snow on every pass and that F-350 dually crew L/B DOES NOT HAVE 4WD!:eek:
I was real busy behind the wheel trying to keep it straight.
Ran across the 7 bad accidents and one where a fella took out 6 sections of steel reinforced concrete rail on a bridge and plunged 250 feet to the columbia river.... the bad news is they figure he was alive.... was pinned in the vehicle and drowned.....just goes to show us all that we need to live each day like it is our last

Anyhow, LaserBob is now officially Juicegrip(TM) certified!
Congratulations on passing the exam Bob!:ro)

Got Juice?
02-06-2005, 01:50 PM
One of a handful of poeple in the world who have SEEN the DTT DMAX Twinshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif , as of Feb 05,05. (And ridden in the truckhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif )





TROLL ):h




























They said they killed anyone (except juice, he's blind) that had seen the twins ):h
Nahh, LaserBob is a great guy... geez did we have fun at DTT... Each day was full of laughs:ro)

_nar_
02-06-2005, 02:46 PM
Nahh, LaserBob is a great guy... geez did we have fun at DTT... Each day was full of laughs:ro)
They were all laughing at you?:joke:

Got Juice?
02-06-2005, 09:08 PM
They were all laughing at you?:joke:
LOL
Bob liked my 12VCTD imitation!:ro)

Got Juice?
02-06-2005, 09:29 PM
Even getting Attention at the TDR i see....

http://www.tdr1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122529&page=1&pp=15

LaserBob
02-06-2005, 11:42 PM
Juice,

You are , without a doubt, world famous by now:ro)

LaserBob

Got Juice?
02-06-2005, 11:45 PM
Juice,

You are , without a doubt, world famous by now:ro)

LaserBob
or INFAMOUS.:eek: ;) :)

gslam88
02-17-2005, 12:05 AM
Here is a 1200 hp twin vette... that you can actually see...

http://www.lateral-g.org/distad/

Slick
02-17-2005, 07:07 AM
Is it me or do those looki like twin blowers.;) :confused:

dpower
02-17-2005, 12:28 PM
looks that way to me!

Got Juice?
02-17-2005, 01:29 PM
Looks like the Magnussen Special M-120 Blowers (made by EATON and 'massaged' by magnussen)