Oil change went smoothly until we tried to remove the filter...

Using a strap wrench, the filter is now crushed with a hole in it and what remaining oil that is in the truck is now leaking...cannot get it to turn at all. My husband is 220 pounds and quite strong and now very upset (to put it mildly)...

:help:

drive a screwdriver through it and twist:grd:

Dude, are you serious?:eek:

I'm not shunning your help I'm just asking if you're really serious? We really can't afford to take any more time off work because the factory filter was too dang tight...

Works every time!!

:grd: do you have a better idea? the first time i tried mine i actually made some new sware words. they are put on at the factory with impact wrenches

Yup - these things can be a bugger.
Put a screwdriver through it. You hoping to save the old filter?

Works every time!!
You already have a hole.............so jammmmm that screwdriver thru one side and out the other..............start twisting counterclockwise..............she'll loosen...........

T:) NY

Yes.... a big honking screwdriver. Pound it through with a hammer and walla.... you have an oil filter with a dripping handle! Works everytime!

Yup I've done that before too. Always worked.

I used a pipe wrench, yours may be too bad of shape anymore for the pipe wrench. I would clean all of the oil on the filter off with a solvent of some kind. The excess oil will not help. If the pipe wrench does not get you to where you want to be, use the screw driver ideas. The people suggesting that are not just thinking of it while siting at a computer, chances are they have had to do that before as I have too. Good Luck with !

Thanks guys!!!:exactly: what we needed! The oil filter looks pretty bad...maybe I'll post pics.

No pipe wrench but plenty of screwdrivers.

Thanks again!



We'll do the tranny filter another night...:lol:

The tranny filter will be easy.Don't over tighten the new spin on oil filter.Must here will swore they self tighten.

Oil change went smoothly until we tried to remove the filter...

Using a strap wrench, the filter is now crushed with a hole in it and what remaining oil that is in the truck is now leaking...cannot get it to turn at all. My husband is 220 pounds and quite strong and now very upset (to put it mildly)...

I told you the guy at the factory that put that filter on has no neck. Big dude. Don't want to get him pissed. Glad you finally got it off. The guy that puts the tranny filter on has a neck. Should be able to get that one off okay.

Jim

Tip for others:

This is why I had my first oil/filter change done at the dealer. Now I do all my own changes.

I used a pipe wrench, yours may be too bad of shape anymore for the pipe wrench. I would clean all of the oil on the filter off with a solvent of some kind. The excess oil will not help. If the pipe wrench does not get you to where you want to be, use the screw driver ideas. The people suggesting that are not just thinking of it while siting at a computer, chances are they have had to do that before as I have too. Good Luck with !
How the hell do you get a pipe wrench in there?:confused: It would have to be atleast a 2' wrench and I can just fit the strap wrench in there!

If you do not apply some oil to the filter gasket before re-installing the new filter, you will probably have this trouble again.

A lack of lubricant at installation is the main cause of difficult oil filter removal. Without any lubrication, once the engine heats up, it practically "welds" the rubber filter gasket to the engine, so even if a child installed the filter (no impact wrench install needed), it's very difficult to remove.

Screwdrivers are the norm for this type of removal. They tend to destroy the filter housing which releases some pressure against the gasket (from the filter side) while providing the necessary leverage.

That's why I bought a $32.00 oil filter strap wrench.

It allowed me to take the "first filter" off with only mild swearing.

I thought for sure I was going to lose my knuckles on the first one...

We used a strap wrench made for filters and it still crushed it. My husband couldn't get his hands in a position to get it any closer to the base of the filter than he was.;)

We lubbed up the new filter well. Shouldn't have any problems next time...I hope...):h

Definitely need to lift the truck though...I could barely fit under there and I'm 5'6" at 125 lbs!:eek:

How the hell do you get a pipe wrench in there?:confused: It would have to be atleast a 2' wrench and I can just fit the strap wrench in there!
The length of the handle was like 12-14". It didn't have a large rotation, but it did the job.

Definitely need to lift the truck though...I could barely fit under there and I'm 5'6" at 125 lbs!:eek:

I use a sturdy set of ramps. This gets the truck up enough for me to comfortably use a creeper - I'm 6'2" and 230 lbs.

On another note - I hate strap filter wrenches. It takes a lot more effort to use them than a comparable metal ring filter wrench. They also crush the filter can, which makes cutting & inspecting the filter darn near impossible.

Last weekend I changed the 6" diameter Kennedy Mega fuel filter and twisted a strap wrench apart in the process. Good thing the filter was not totally ruined so I could drive the truck to a parts store & buy a real filter wrench.

I had good luck using a cap wrench to get the original filter off. That filter was definitely on there tight!

Everyone's oil filter has the self tightening feature.

Seriously, the pressure of the DMax oil pump/system actually stretches the filter just enough to suck it up tighter to the engine. It's always tighter when you try to remove it than when you put it on..

L8r....

My OEM filter and oil drain plug had blue locktite on the threads from the factory. :eek:

I actually had a HORRIBLE (6 hour) fight with a spin-on filter on my race car once.


It was so stuck on that the screw driver trick; filter strap. etc. didn't work.

Had to carefully destroy and remove the entire filter down to the bottom plate.

I was able to get a large pipe wrench on that plate and it eventually came off. However, the problem was until I loosened it a half turn, it would "spring-back".

I never want to have that happen again.

The one time I had to resort to the screwdriver trick, it just cut thru the metal of the filter can as I tried to turn it! After it cut the filter in two, I used it like a chisel with a hammer on the base of the filter to drive it around and finally off.
Since then, all my filters are hand tite and well lubed. Never had to tighten one that leaked, and if it doesn't leak when I first fire it up with thick cold oil - it won't.
Invest in a good strap wrench, I destroyed 3 cheap ones once. And if you can't get it around the base, put it on the end - it isn't as likely to collapse as if you tried it in the middle.

I have found that a big honkin pair of chanel locks have the grip if placed right at the bottom of the filter. It is very sturdy at that point and you don't get the oil bath that you get with a big screwdriver.

Go to Home Depot and buy the biggest channel locks they sell it works great there like 20 inches long.. Grab at the end of the filter, you won't crush it too bad and doesn't normally put a whole in it. Oh, and the wrenches that fit the end of the filter just spin.
Jon

Have used the screw several time.
Now a big vise grip that has a circle jaw.