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: Nv4500 ?


War Wagon
01-27-2005, 11:27 AM
Is the NV4500 an OD trans? Will it bolt to a bell housing from a 4spd on a 6.2L

duramaxdiesel
01-27-2005, 11:34 AM
Yes and yes. It's a great tranny.

D.Camilleri
01-27-2005, 03:04 PM
Yes and NO. It will not bolt up to the 4 speed bellhousing. Bolt pattern is very different. You would need to get a bellhousing from a 92-94 6.5 and convert to a hydraulic clutch if you don't have one already. Pretty simple and can be done with all factory parts.;)

War Wagon
01-28-2005, 12:04 AM
If I had a NV4500 what rear end would you recomend pairing with it to run with a 6.2L?

D.Camilleri
01-28-2005, 09:09 AM
I would run it with 4.10 on a n.a. engine and 32 to 33 inch tires, or 3.73 with a turbo for a little better fuel economy.;)

War Wagon
01-28-2005, 12:12 PM
What kind of RPM's would I have @ say 80 mph w/3.73 gears?

D.Camilleri
01-28-2005, 07:26 PM
With What Size Of Tire?

War Wagon
01-28-2005, 09:04 PM
Tires: 235/75R15 I think.

D.Camilleri
01-29-2005, 12:26 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="95%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Gear Ratio Guide for Larger Tires

When ever you change tire size from the original size to another there will be a direct effect on power and drivability. We have developed this chart to help you select the optimum gear ratio to put your performance back where you want it.

Using the chart below, first determine your original gear ratio and tire size and follow to the intersection that should be your approximate RPM at 65 MPH. Next find your new tire size and follow that across to the closest RPM to your original and that will be first choice.

If you are interested in a change that will give more power or better fuel mileage use the color coding as a guide.

<TABLE height=1 width=488 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width=88 bgColor=#6699ff height=24> </TD><TD width=488 height=24>Highway Driving, Good Fuel Economy

</TD></TR><TR><TD width=88 bgColor=#00cc66 height=23> </TD><TD width=488 height=23>Daily Driver, Best Overall Performance</TD></TR><TR><TD width=88 bgColor=#ff6666 height=24> </TD><TD width=488 height=24>Most Power and Towing, Reduced Fuel Economy</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
This chart is based on 65 MPH and a gear ratio of 1:1, on a manual transmission in 4th gear. Please NOTE: If you have an automatic transmission your RPM will higher due to slippage in the transmission and the torque converter. With an overdrive transmission your RPM in overdrive will be 15% to 30% less than indicated.

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Multiply rpm from the chart x .75 for your rpm in overdrive.;) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

War Wagon
01-29-2005, 05:11 PM
D. Camilleri- Thanks for the chart. That should help out a lot.

War Wagon
01-30-2005, 01:25 AM
I got lucky the sticker from the dealer is still in the jockey box. I have 3.42 gears. With the tires I have and the 4spd it looks like I'll be running about 2600 rpm at 65 mph.

War Wagon
01-30-2005, 11:03 PM
Is .75:1 the OD ratio in the NV4500?

D.Camilleri
01-31-2005, 11:14 AM
Yes the ratio is about .75. If you are looking for better cruising rpms you should consider a US Gear overdrive unit. Assuming that you have 4WD, this unit goes between trans and transfercase and gives you the ability to split every gear. This is a really cool unit. I have installed several and they were very durable, which is more than I can say for the gear venders.:) :grd:

War Wagon
02-01-2005, 01:46 AM
:confused: What's a gear splitter worth. My burb is 2wd w/ 4spd. With 3.42 gears I'd be running right about in the middle of the desired area if I had an NV4500.

D.Camilleri
02-01-2005, 10:07 AM
It depends on how much you could get a nvg 4500 and the rest of stuff. You could also check into advanced adapters' ranger overdrive. It goes in between transmission and bellhousing and also allows you to split every gear plus 20 pecent overdrive.:)

War Wagon
02-01-2005, 01:58 PM
If I've got the patience to look around for a while I might get lucky and find an entire pickup for about $500, but it's got to be 2wd. That could be tough.